2013-2014 Indiana University Application Thread

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phonybone said:
Were all Oct. 15th decisions acceptances? Just curious if they are holding out on rejections and such.
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The way it was explained when I interviewed is that when the admissions committee meets (once a month) they pick the top 100 or so applicants based on a score they assign to your application (based on everything, including your interview). They go through the top candidates and decide whether to accept, reject, or waitlist them. If they don't reach a decision, then they put you into next month's pile. All the other candidates which don't fall into the top 100 or so also get put into the next month's pile until the class is filled.
 
November 15 tomorrow!

Let us know if you get in or hear news.
 
ratmd said:
November 15 tomorrow!

Let us know if you get in or hear news.
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Letters will be mailed tomorrow so I am guessing no news will come until next week. At least that is what I am telling myself so I can have a less stressful weekend.
 
Interviewed Wednesday and had a great time. If my application is complete for review today, great but I understand if it isn't.

Good luck to everyone and hoping that you all get in!
 
Interviewed Wednesday and had a great time. If my application is complete for review today, great but I understand if it isn't.

Good luck to everyone and hoping that you all get in!
 
Andross said:
Interviewed Wednesday and had a great time. If my application is complete for review today, great but I understand if it isn't.

Good luck to everyone and hoping that you all get in!
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No it isn't. If it was, you would have gotten an email. Also they meet prior to the 15th, they just send out the letters on the 15th. I bet they met before you interviewed.
 
PreMedRookie said:
No it isn't. If it was, you would have gotten an email. Also they meet prior to the 15th, they just send out the letters on the 15th. I bet they met before you interviewed.
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Oh I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
 
Just to make everything go smoothly this round of acceptances, please include the following information in your acceptance post:

Interview Date!!!!
GPA
MCAT

Maybe also include IS/OOS and where your letter was sent (preferred/permanent), but these things are not as important.

This will allow others to gauge when they will be reviewed and what their chances are. Also, if you get accepted, CONGRATULATIONS!!!
 
OOS
Interview Invite today, but haven't told me the date yet.
3.6-3.8 GPA
36-38 MCAT
 
OOS
Interview Invite today, but haven't told me the date yet.
3.6-3.8 GPA
36-38 MCAT
 
I submitted my application in mid-August and was verified Oct. 4th. I have yet to receive an email (Interview, Secondary, even confirmation that my application was received), should I call IUSM to check my status?

IS
3.87 GPA
30 MCAT
 
Surprised no one has posted about their post-interview decision since the committee was supposed to meet on the 15th... anyone?
 
Matt20 said:
Surprised no one has posted about their post-interview decision since the committee was supposed to meet on the 15th... anyone?
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They met before the 15th. They sent the letters on the 15th. It will take a few days for people to start receiving their letters.
 
PreMedRookie said:
Just to make everything go smoothly this round of acceptances, please include the following information in your acceptance post:

Interview Date!!!!
GPA
MCAT

Maybe also include IS/OOS and where your letter was sent (preferred/permanent), but these things are not as important.

This will allow others to gauge when they will be reviewed and what their chances are. Also, if you get accepted, CONGRATULATIONS!!!
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While MCAT scores and GPA may get your application looked at it, ADCOM is not going to make acceptance/rejection decisions based on these values alone. I think that there is so much that goes into your ADCOM "score" (interview scores, references, primary application characteristics), that to try and gauge your chances based on other people's MCAT/GPA would be misleading.

Good luck to everyone as this month's letters go out.
 
IUhopeful2016 said:
While MCAT scores and GPA may get your application looked at it, ADCOM is not going to make acceptance/rejection decisions based on these values alone. I think that there is so much that goes into your ADCOM "score" (interview scores, references, primary application characteristics), that to try and gauge your chances based on other people's MCAT/GPA would be misleading.

Good luck to everyone as this month's letters go out.
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Obviously it is not but it is still helpful to know. If everyone getting accepted has about a 36 or something this round and you have a 27, you can be pretty confident that they haven't got to your file yet. They review files based on their score , which includes MCAT, GPA, and interview. So it actually is a pretty good predictor.
 
msquaredb said:
Did anyone's status page change from "under consideration" to something else? I know they mail decisions, but the website says the status will not change until a decision has been made. In order to mail a decision there has to be a decision to mail, so I was thinking the online status might change before the letter is received.
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It takes a bit of time for them to change the online status (about a week), so the letter might come faster.
 
Hoosier34 said:
Has anyone received a letter since November 15th??
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According to last years thread, one person got a letter on the 19th, one on the 20th, and one on the 21st. Only three people reported acceptances, but I didn't dig to far into the thread.
 
PreMedRookie said:
According to last years thread, one person got a letter on the 19th, one on the 20th, and one on the 21st. Only three people reported acceptances, but I didn't dig to far into the thread.
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Looks like I should not expect anything in the mail soon.
 
Received a letter today. Accepted! My mailing address is a one hour drive from Indy and it took this long to get the letter, so don't lose hope yet if you are out of state and still haven't received a letter. My stats: 3.85 GPA, 29 MCAT. I'm instate, obviously. I'm a bit of a non-traditional applicant, so those of you who have lower MCAT scores like myself, don't give up hope. You have other qualifications, so don't feel labeled by your number.
 
qclab24 said:
Received a letter today. Accepted! My mailing address is a one hour drive from Indy and it took this long to get the letter, so don't lose hope yet if you are out of state and still haven't received a letter. My stats: 3.85 GPA, 29 MCAT. I'm instate, obviously. I'm a bit of a non-traditional applicant, so those of you who have lower MCAT scores like myself, don't give up hope. You have other qualifications, so don't feel labeled by your number.
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When did you interview?
 
ACCEPTED!!!!!!!!!!! Interviewed 10/2! Ahhhhhhhh!!!

But only 3 weeks to make a decision...
 
Would those who have heard decisions from Nov. 15 inform the thread when their online application status changes? thanks!
 
Received a letter on Thursday, 11/21. Accepted! I am about 2.5 hours from Indy, and as qclab24 pointed out, that's a long time from the 15th to the 21st. I interviewed on 10/2 in Indianapolis. My stats are the following:
IS
MCAT 34
GPA 3.96
Thanks for everyone's responses to my earlier posts, and best of luck to all applicants.
 
ihb said:
Thanks for the links, Mt. Kilimanjaro! I reviewed the info for each campus, but i'm looking for some details that aren't included on the websites (e.g., job opportunities for my wife, safety, etc.).
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Depending on what field your wife is in, I wouldn't imagine there will be a huge variety of opportunities in most of those places except Indianapolis. Indianapolis has a fairly robust biotech sector, as does West Lafayette, where Purdue is located. However, all of the campuses are all co-located with universities, so there will always be some academic, education, non-profit, and health care jobs in each city. She could also potentially commute from Gary into Chicagoland, but that might get tedious. Not sure about safety. Downtown Indianapolis is extremely safe and most of those other places are smallish college towns that don't have much crime. The Gary area has a bad reputation, but I don't know about the med school campus itself.
 
ihb said:
Thanks for the links, Mt. Kilimanjaro! I reviewed the info for each campus, but i'm looking for some details that aren't included on the websites (e.g., job opportunities for my wife, safety, etc.).
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Have you looked at the survival guide? There was some information relating to safety and housing on there. It is written from the perspective of med students, so it may be applicable for you. Good luck.
 
Late applicant here, does anybody know if the "secondary" e-mail and/or interview invites are given on a rolling basis or are they offered once a month (following the ADCOM monthly meetings, similar to admission notification)?

Thank you for any input! 🙂

**Edit: nevermind, found out the invites are rolling!**
 
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Doctor Dapper said:
Thanks for the links, Mt. Kilimanjaro! I reviewed the info for each campus, but i'm looking for some details that aren't included on the websites (e.g., job opportunities for my wife, safety, etc.).
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Hey! I interviewed at the Gary campus last year and it's really not as bad as people say. In other words, I would not mind doing my medical school years at the Gary campus. As for safety, it's not in a horrible neighborhood, but it's not in the best either. The campus looks pretty safe, but the areas around it are shady. However, you could easily commute from Gary to Chicago if that's where you would live. There is also Merrillville and Valparaiso about 20-30 minutes away, which have really good schools (if you have or are planning to have kids) and are regular towns with job opportunities. They're not huge cities, but they are good towns. Valparaiso has a nice downtown area that's pretty old school with some good restaurants and the city is very safe. Merrillville has everything you would need...mall and every store (Target, Hobby Lobby, Sport's Authority, etc). Idk if this answered your question at all, but the Gary campus is the only one that I know about. Hope this helped!
 
cardinal91 said:
Hey! I interviewed at the Gary campus last year and it's really not as bad as people say. In other words, I would not mind doing my medical school years at the Gary campus. As for safety, it's not in a horrible neighborhood, but it's not in the best either. The campus looks pretty safe, but the areas around it are shady. However, you could easily commute from Gary to Chicago if that's where you would live. There is also Merrillville and Valparaiso about 20-30 minutes away, which have really good schools (if you have or are planning to have kids) and are regular towns with job opportunities. They're not huge cities, but they are good towns. Valparaiso has a nice downtown area that's pretty old school with some good restaurants and the city is very safe. Merrillville has everything you would need...mall and every store (Target, Hobby Lobby, Sport's Authority, etc). Idk if this answered your question at all, but the Gary campus is the only one that I know about. Hope this helped!
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As an alumnus of the Gary campus, I feel obligated to warn those against going here for the first two years, though now it sounds like they will be making the campus a four year program, which is disconcerting. The PBL curriculum, while it looks very conducive to learning ends up being very destructive to the learning process. Within each class, you will be doing PBL sessions. You will be given a numerical grade, not a P/F. In some classes, this grade counts for as much as 50% of your final grade. In your second year, you will be fighting the administration to study for your Step 1. There is not a pathology class given at Gary, arguably the most important class of your basic science years. My classmates and I bought a subscription to an outside professor's lectures for a class that should have been given to us in our tuition. Some of the professors are very good, others are atrociously bad. If you can go to Indianapolis, do it. The education is far better. Medical school is hard enough without dealing with the Gary administration that did not care about its students.
 
I haven't been following the thread, so forgive me if these issues have been brought up. Also, I want everyone to know I am not trying to bash IU. Rather, I am asking questions I think I need answers to in order to make an informed decision.

Let me preface all of this by saying that I am from rural Indiana and have lived here my entire life. I am not some out of state applicant who is grumpy about the prospect of going to school in a "fly over state", as many so derisively call Indiana.

First of all, I really wish there was a unified source of information comparing important aspects of each of the campus locations. Currently, you have to wade through terrible and sparse websites that are all organized (or not organized) differently. This is one of the biggest decisions of my life yet, but IU makes me feel like I have little control over the process not only by the placement process but by the lack of information (EDIT: I just saw the link posted above with bulleted points). I still wish I could see that campuses and tour them and ask pointed questions a each.

When I interviewed I got the vibe that IU was like "Yeah, the campus system sucks....deal with it! Beggars can't be choosers" *next slide* Sometimes I feel like IU has no incentive to be pleasant or accommodating because it has a monopoly on Indiana residents. If you don't like it its no big deal to them because they have plenty of qualified Indiana residents to take your place.

I also wanted to talk about a fear I had going into the application process at IU, and it looks like it has come true. They have increased their class size drastically in recent years, and I suspected they would not be able to continue to fully accommodate everyone who wanted to do rotations in Indianapolis. I wasn't surprised when, in subsequent acceptance information, I was informed those wishing to do rotations in Indianapolis may be required to do some of the rotations elsewhere. To be honest, this really affects my decision if I get a satellite campus. I used to comfort myself about that outcome by telling myself that I would and could do rotations in Indianapolis, but even that option will be affected negatively now.

I also really wonder about the quality of experience at a satellite campus. There are three areas I think it would be impacted negatively relative to Indianapolis: exposure to diversity, ECs and research opportunities, and quality of education.

-Will my experience at a satellite campus be viewed the same by residency directors? I feel like the lack of exposure to diversity etc. would be a major issue when interviewing for residencies. I grew up in Indiana and went to a large state school (very diverse) and interviewers in big city schools were STILL concerned about how much "true" diversity I had seen. I imagine this would be an issue at the residency stage as well.

-I think it is a fact that I will have less access to research if I attend a satellite campus. I also suspect the ECs will be less robust and developed at a campus other than Indianapolis. For example, how can there be thriving and varied interest groups with a class size of 20. The social life (I imagine there are few niches to be found in a class of 20) and small size of the satellite campus cities is a big concern for me. As my name implies, a certain level of urbanity is important to me.

-Honestly, when I see a ranking of 48 I think that is essentially a ranking for the Indianapolis campus. Will students at a satellite campus have access to the same quality of instruction, quality of shadowing opportunities, or the same quality of early clinical engagement?

I am really struggling with all of this. Of course, I would love to have in-state tuition while attending a decently ranked school, but the uncertainty of the campus system is really doing a number on my brain. Having seen and LIVED in some of the towns that satellite campuses are in, I know opportunities and exposure to diversity would be severely hampered. I wish to leave Indiana eventually, and I believe attending a satellite campus will not be the best for that goal.

I will be honest. I am slightly exasperated and upset that my state school is so wonky and the decision isn't as cut and dried as I thought it would be.

Thoughts?
 
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MassTransit said:
I haven't been following the thread, so forgive me if these issues have been brought up. Also, I want everyone to know I am not trying to bash IU. Rather, I am asking questions I think I need answers to in order to make an informed decision.

Let me preface all of this by saying that I am from rural Indiana and have lived here my entire life. I am not some out of state applicant who is grumpy about the prospect of going to school in a "fly over state", as many so derisively call Indiana.

First of all, I really wish there was a unified source of information comparing important aspects of each of the campus locations. Currently, you have to wade through terrible and sparse websites that are all organized (or not organized) differently. This is one of the biggest decisions of my life yet, but IU makes me feel like I have little control over the process not only by the placement process but by the lack of information (EDIT: I just saw the link posted above with bulleted points). I still wish I could see that campuses and tour them and ask pointed questions a each.

When I interviewed I got the vibe that IU was like "Yeah, the campus system sucks....deal with it! Beggars can't be choosers" *next slide* Sometimes I feel like IU has no incentive to be pleasant or accommodating because it has a monopoly on Indiana residents. If you don't like it its no big deal to them because they have plenty of qualified Indiana residents to take your place.

I also wanted to talk about a fear I had going into the application process at IU, and it looks like it has come true. They have increased their class size drastically in recent years, and I suspected they would not be able to continue to fully accommodate everyone who wanted to do rotations in Indianapolis. I wasn't surprised when, in subsequent acceptance information, I was informed those wishing to do rotations in Indianapolis may be required to do some of the rotations elsewhere. To be honest, this really affects my decision if I get a satellite campus. I used to comfort myself about that outcome by telling myself that I would and could do rotations in Indianapolis, but even that option will be affected negatively now.

I also really wonder about the quality of experience at a satellite campus. There are three areas I think it would be impacted negatively relative to Indianapolis: exposure to diversity, ECs and research opportunities, and quality of education.

-Will my experience at a satellite campus be viewed the same by residency directors? I feel like the lack of exposure to diversity etc. would be a major issue when interviewing for residencies. I grew up in Indiana and went to a large state school (very diverse) and interviewers in big city schools were STILL concerned about how much "true" diversity I had seen. I imagine this would be an issue at the residency stage as well.

-I think it is a fact that I will have less access to research if I attend a satellite campus. I also suspect the ECs will be less robust and developed at a campus other than Indianapolis. For example, how can there be thriving and varied interest groups with a class size of 20. The social life (I imagine there are few niches to be found in a class of 20) and small size of the satellite campus cities is a big concern for me. As my name implies, a certain level of urbanity is important to me.

-Honestly, when I see a ranking of 48 I think that is essentially a ranking for the Indianapolis campus. Will students at a satellite campus have access to the same quality of instruction, quality of shadowing opportunities, or the same quality of early clinical engagement?

I am really struggling with all of this. Of course, I would love to have in-state tuition while attending a decently ranked school, but the uncertainty of the campus system is really doing a number on my brain. Having seen and LIVED in some of the towns that satellite campuses are in, I know opportunities and exposure to diversity would be severely hampered. I wish to leave Indiana eventually, and I believe attending a satellite campus will not be the best for that goal.

I will be honest. I am slightly exasperated and upset that my state school is so wonky and the decision isn't as cut and dried as I thought it would be.

Thoughts?
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Nothing is guaranteed anywhere you go. I do know that Indy had a far greater exposure to better professors, better preparation for boards. If I were an applicant, I would seriously look with a skeptical eye at the institution that IU is becoming. Yes, it is the second largest medical school in the country and it's still growing. You are correct, it's the only medical school in the state. Thus, their priority is the mass production of physicians. Your priority is to be the best prepared, best educated so you can have your pick of residencies. There may be a conflict between the two objectives. BTW, I believe diversity is an old civil war ship.
 
MassTransit said:
I haven't been following the thread, so forgive me if these issues have been brought up. Also, I want everyone to know I am not trying to bash IU. Rather, I am asking questions I think I need answers to in order to make an informed decision.

Let me preface all of this by saying that I am from rural Indiana and have lived here my entire life. I am not some out of state applicant who is grumpy about the prospect of going to school in a "fly over state", as many so derisively call Indiana.

First of all, I really wish there was a unified source of information comparing important aspects of each of the campus locations. Currently, you have to wade through terrible and sparse websites that are all organized (or not organized) differently. This is one of the biggest decisions of my life yet, but IU makes me feel like I have little control over the process not only by the placement process but by the lack of information (EDIT: I just saw the link posted above with bulleted points). I still wish I could see that campuses and tour them and ask pointed questions a each.

When I interviewed I got the vibe that IU was like "Yeah, the campus system sucks....deal with it! Beggars can't be choosers" *next slide* Sometimes I feel like IU has no incentive to be pleasant or accommodating because it has a monopoly on Indiana residents. If you don't like it its no big deal to them because they have plenty of qualified Indiana residents to take your place.

I also wanted to talk about a fear I had going into the application process at IU, and it looks like it has come true. They have increased their class size drastically in recent years, and I suspected they would not be able to continue to fully accommodate everyone who wanted to do rotations in Indianapolis. I wasn't surprised when, in subsequent acceptance information, I was informed those wishing to do rotations in Indianapolis may be required to do some of the rotations elsewhere. To be honest, this really affects my decision if I get a satellite campus. I used to comfort myself about that outcome by telling myself that I would and could do rotations in Indianapolis, but even that option will be affected negatively now.

I also really wonder about the quality of experience at a satellite campus. There are three areas I think it would be impacted negatively relative to Indianapolis: exposure to diversity, ECs and research opportunities, and quality of education.

-Will my experience at a satellite campus be viewed the same by residency directors? I feel like the lack of exposure to diversity etc. would be a major issue when interviewing for residencies. I grew up in Indiana and went to a large state school (very diverse) and interviewers in big city schools were STILL concerned about how much "true" diversity I had seen. I imagine this would be an issue at the residency stage as well.

-I think it is a fact that I will have less access to research if I attend a satellite campus. I also suspect the ECs will be less robust and developed at a campus other than Indianapolis. For example, how can there be thriving and varied interest groups with a class size of 20. The social life (I imagine there are few niches to be found in a class of 20) and small size of the satellite campus cities is a big concern for me. As my name implies, a certain level of urbanity is important to me.

-Honestly, when I see a ranking of 48 I think that is essentially a ranking for the Indianapolis campus. Will students at a satellite campus have access to the same quality of instruction, quality of shadowing opportunities, or the same quality of early clinical engagement?

I am really struggling with all of this. Of course, I would love to have in-state tuition while attending a decently ranked school, but the uncertainty of the campus system is really doing a number on my brain. Having seen and LIVED in some of the towns that satellite campuses are in, I know opportunities and exposure to diversity would be severely hampered. I wish to leave Indiana eventually, and I believe attending a satellite campus will not be the best for that goal.

I will be honest. I am slightly exasperated and upset that my state school is so wonky and the decision isn't as cut and dried as I thought it would be.

Thoughts?
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To add on to your concerns: Lecture at the Indianapolis campus is not required, so all the lectures are recorded and available to the students to watch multiple times. At the satellite campuses, attendance is required and lectures are NOT recorded. I feel like this is so unfair. Being able to go back and re-listen to a lecture to complete your notes or to hear the prof explain something again is a HUGE advantage.
 
PreMedRookie said:
To add on to your concerns: Lecture at the Indianapolis campus is not required, so all the lectures are recorded and available to the students to watch multiple times. At the satellite campuses, attendance is required and lectures are NOT recorded. I feel like this is so unfair. Being able to go back and re-listen to a lecture to complete your notes or to hear the prof explain something again is a HUGE advantage.
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Oh my...I didn't know this. So attendance is required at ALL satellite campuses but not Indy? I am almost in disbelief at how that double standard is allowed to exist.

Also, where did you get that information? I believe you, but Im curious so I can go read this source as well.
 
PreMedRookie said:
To add on to your concerns: Lecture at the Indianapolis campus is not required, so all the lectures are recorded and available to the students to watch multiple times. At the satellite campuses, attendance is required and lectures are NOT recorded. I feel like this is so unfair. Being able to go back and re-listen to a lecture to complete your notes or to hear the prof explain something again is a HUGE advantage.
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Is there any data that has Step 1 scores for Indy campus students vs satellite campus students?
 
meerkat2010 said:
Nothing is guaranteed anywhere you go. I do know that Indy had a far greater exposure to better professors, better preparation for boards. If I were an applicant, I would seriously look with a skeptical eye at the institution that IU is becoming. Yes, it is the second largest medical school in the country and it's still growing. You are correct, it's the only medical school in the state. Thus, their priority is the mass production of physicians. Your priority is to be the best prepared, best educated so you can have your pick of residencies. There may be a conflict between the two objectives. BTW, I believe diversity is an old civil war ship.
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Thus far, my favorite part of this entire network is that you just quoted Anchorman. Well done.
 
does this school take forever to send secondaries? or are they just uninterested ? lol been waiting for about a month for sec.
 
Modoc said:
does this school take forever to send secondaries? or are they just uninterested ? lol been waiting for about a month for sec.
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They don't send everyone secondaries. They only send it to people who they are going to interview. Getting secondary here = interview invite.

So most people do not get secondaries here.
 
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