2013-2014 Indiana University Application Thread

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Can any accepted students help me out?

I was accepted (e-mails and change on the IUSOM online app site) but due to a mishap with my neighbor my mail has not been coming for the last week. Can anybody tell me what was in the mail acceptance packet? Is there anything I need to get back to them in a timely manner? I have already submitted the technical standards and the campus preferences.

Thank you!!!
 
Can any accepted students help me out?

I was accepted (e-mails and change on the IUSOM online app site) but due to a mishap with my neighbor my mail has not been coming for the last week. Can anybody tell me what was in the mail acceptance packet? Is there anything I need to get back to them in a timely manner? I have already submitted the technical standards and the campus preferences.

Thank you!!!
You need to reply in writing within 3 (?) weeks about whether you choose to accept the offer. Send it to the admissions office 🙂
 
can we make a campus preference and find out our location before we accept to matriculate?
 
Oh my...I didn't know this. So attendance is required at ALL satellite campuses but not Indy? I am almost in disbelief at how that double standard is allowed to exist.

Also, where did you get that information? I believe you, but Im curious so I can go read this source as well.

So when I was at Gary, lectures were not exactly required for you to attend. This may have changed. However, since your PBL sessions are 100% subjective, the professors knew they could stick it you in those sessions if you didn't go to class and thus, your grade would suffer. So lectures became de facto required. In your second year, as I said there is no pathology course. There is a statewide Introduction to Clinical Medicine course. At Gary, they brought in community physicians to lecture to you. The vast majority of these lectures was comprised of anecdotal stories. The administration would say that if we did not go to lectures, we would be penalized with a violation of "professionalism competency," something that goes on your academic record. The administration wants students to go to lectures so as to not insult the community lecturers, since the school receives a lot of private funding from such people. What was particularly frustrating was that the ICM exams were based on the Indianapolis lectures, not the Gary ones. So really, if you cared at this point, you had to go to school to listen to a non-beneficial lecture plus watch the ones from Indy on your computer. Not a very efficient use of time in medical school while studying for boards.
 
so i'm a little confused...

in the letter when it says "Please let us know in writing within three weeks whether or not you wish to accept this offer and reserve your place in the 2014 entering class", does that mean if we accept, we will be unable to drop out and matriculate to another school if we find out we get accept to another later on? Is this essentially "locking us in" to this school?
 
so i'm a little confused...

in the letter when it says "Please let us know in writing within three weeks whether or not you wish to accept this offer and reserve your place in the 2014 entering class", does that mean if we accept, we will be unable to drop out and matriculate to another school if we find out we get accept to another later on? Is this essentially "locking us in" to this school?

https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/recommendations/applicants/

See #9 on this page. You hold as many acceptances as you want until 15 May.

You might not "accept" this offer if you've already been accepted at a school where you have decided to matriculate for sure.
 
Hello everyone, I am new to SDN. I wanted to ask a question. I am OOS and have been offered interview at IU. Which campus is the best for interview location - Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Muncie, Northwest (Gary), or Terre Haute. I am from CA. Thanks.
 
Hello everyone, I am new to SDN. I wanted to ask a question. I am OOS and have been offered interview at IU. Which campus is the best for interview location - Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Muncie, Northwest (Gary), or Terre Haute. I am from CA. Thanks.

Indianapolis, because of the close proximity of the airport to the campus. It's a great campus as well.
 
No post interview rejections until May. This will be a long wait.
 
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It has been a really frustrating morning and I was hoping someone here could give me some input on whether or not I'm overreacting. It's a little long-winded, so bear with me.

I received my II late September for an early November date. If you've received one too, you'll know that there are 3 forms we had to fill out and mail to the admissions office: legal disclosure, letters of evaluation, and the dean's evaluation. I sent all three of these forms out in the same envelope the day I received my II because they were supposed to be turned in and processed before our actual interview day. Fast forward a few weeks, and I notice on my online application portal that the dean's evaluation was processed, but not the other two documents. No big deal, right? It usually takes some time for everything to update on the online application. Then I attend the interview on 11/6. They tell us at the start of our day that if we are missing any of those documents, our interviewers will let us know so we can get everything squared away before we leave. Well my interviewer didn't mention anything about missing documents, so I thought I was in good shape.

This morning I received an email that said two of the documents were missing, which was later confirmed by phone call. Okay, if I sent all three documents together in the same envelope, how are two of them missing? It seems like someone was careless and accidentally threw away the envelope with 2/3 of the documents still inside. I'm frustrated because I am now technically several weeks late in submitting those documents, through no fault of my own, and I am concerned this will reflect negatively on my application as it goes under review. Should I call and talk to the admissions people about my concerns or am I over-thinking this way too much?
 
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It has been a really frustrating morning and I was hoping someone here could give me some input on whether or not I'm overreacting. It's a little long-winded, so bear with me.

I received my II late September for an early November date. If you've received one too, you'll know that there are 3 forms we had to fill out and mail to the admissions office: legal disclosure, letters of evaluation, and the dean's evaluation. I sent all three of these forms out in the same envelope the day I received my II because they were supposed to be turned in and processed before our actual interview day. Fast forward a few weeks, and I notice on my online application portal that the dean's evaluation was processed, but not the other two documents. No big deal, right? It usually takes some time for everything to become up to date on the online application. Then I attend the interview on 11/6. They tell us at the start of our day that if we are missing any of those documents, our interviewers will let us know so we can get everything squared away before we leave. Well my interviewer didn't mention anything about missing documents, so I thought I was in good shape.

This morning I received an email that said two of the documents were missing, which was later confirmed by phone call. Okay, if I sent all three documents together in the same envelope, how are two of them missing? It seems like someone was careless and accidentally threw away the envelope with 2/3 of the documents still inside. I'm frustrated because I am now technically several weeks late in submitting those documents, through no fault of my own, and I am concerned this will reflect negatively on my application as it goes under review. Should I call and talk to the admissions people about my concerns or am I over-thinking this way too much?

I feel you brother, I've had an issue with another school in getting a letter head "verified" from my undergrad which put me back 6 weeks into the app cycle... not fun with rolling admissions. I had to resubmit the letter twice and I just kept calling admissions on a weekly basis. When you contact them, I wouldn't focus on how frustrated you might feel, but just see if there's a way you could get your app in front of the adcom asap (i.e., have your forms faxed over instead of mailed). Some things are completely out of our control in this app - keep your head up!
 
Rejected today via e-mail 🙁. Interviewed September 4th. It doesn't sting that bad since I already have an acceptance to other schools but this was my top choice. Really thought I killed the interview. Oh well, everything happens for a reason. Good luck everyone.
 
Haha I am not sure. I have heard it and read it multiple times though. I know it was said on the interview day, too.
haha, okay. I was just wondering if you had a secret source that no one else had.

I asked them about step 1 score variation across the different campuses during my interview and they told me they've put a lot of time and energy into monitoring the scores and making sure they're relatively similar... so that's that I suppose.

Does anyone know of a past thread or other resource where current or recently graduated students talked about the different campuses? I'm having trouble gaining *real* information about each of them.

I found this PDF if anyone's interested. It has a cleaner comparison of the different campuses. Not sure how up to date it is though.
 
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I applied incredibly late (November) due to financial issues. Any idea on how long it takes for them to review your application?
 
Do we have a guess on when the next batch of IIs are going out?
 
It has been a really frustrating morning and I was hoping someone here could give me some input on whether or not I'm overreacting. It's a little long-winded, so bear with me.

I received my II late September for an early November date. If you've received one too, you'll know that there are 3 forms we had to fill out and mail to the admissions office: legal disclosure, letters of evaluation, and the dean's evaluation. I sent all three of these forms out in the same envelope the day I received my II because they were supposed to be turned in and processed before our actual interview day. Fast forward a few weeks, and I notice on my online application portal that the dean's evaluation was processed, but not the other two documents. No big deal, right? It usually takes some time for everything to update on the online application. Then I attend the interview on 11/6. They tell us at the start of our day that if we are missing any of those documents, our interviewers will let us know so we can get everything squared away before we leave. Well my interviewer didn't mention anything about missing documents, so I thought I was in good shape.

This morning I received an email that said two of the documents were missing, which was later confirmed by phone call. Okay, if I sent all three documents together in the same envelope, how are two of them missing? It seems like someone was careless and accidentally threw away the envelope with 2/3 of the documents still inside. I'm frustrated because I am now technically several weeks late in submitting those documents, through no fault of my own, and I am concerned this will reflect negatively on my application as it goes under review. Should I call and talk to the admissions people about my concerns or am I over-thinking this way too much?

Called the admissions office today to check in and there's nothing I can do except wait for them to process the additional copies I sent in. Bummer. That'll delay the processing of my application by another month, and I still don't know if my "late" submission of those documents will reflect negatively on my application. Something gives me a bad feeling about this whole situation. 🙁
 
Did any interviewees stay with a student host during their visit? It's mentioned in my confirmation e-mail but can't seem to find any info about a hosting program/who to contact for hosting.

And congrats to those already accepted and GL to those still waiting 🙂
 
Did any interviewees stay with a student host during their visit? It's mentioned in my confirmation e-mail but can't seem to find any info about a hosting program/who to contact for hosting.

And congrats to those already accepted and GL to those still waiting 🙂

A little under a week after I RSVP'd/confirmed my interview date, I was sent an email w/ this subject line, "IUSM Lodging Requests." The email was about requesting student hosting. Good luck on your interview!
 
I wasn't able to tour the facilities at Indianapolis. What do current students think? Is there a decent sim lab, a good medical library, enough private/group study areas, a good anatomy lab, etc.?

Also, what are the chances of getting into Indianapolis's campus? I know not everyone can go there but I'm curious at how many pick Indianapolis as there first choice and end up somewhere else. I would really prefer to be in Indianapolis because of the research opportunities. I also don't want to have to move after my second year of med school and plan on doing most of my rotations in Indianapolis.

Thanks for any insight!
 
Do they do silent rejections pre-interview? I got the initial email from them saying they had received my app and were reviewing it but haven't heard anything since. Thanks!
 
I'm wondering the same thing. I was a late applicant. Sent in my application in late October. I'm an in-state applicant and read this on the application website.

"Indiana residents with a minimum 3.4 science and overall GPA, and a 28 MCAT with no individual score below 7 will be eligible for interview." (http://admissions.medicine.iu.edu/applying-to-the-iu-school-of-medicine/)

Anyone know what the phrase "eligible to interview" means? Stats: 29 MCAT (10 V, 11 BS, 8 PS), 3.82 GPA, 3.75 science GPA. I understand that eligible does not mean that I'm guaranteed an interview, but I thought maybe it meant I had a good chance of getting one at least....?
 
I'm confused about how the LOR form works with committee. Do they ignore the ones I don't mention on the form? And if I have other letters being sent in addition to the committee will they ignore those too?
 
I'm confused about how the LOR form works with committee. Do they ignore the ones I don't mention on the form? And if I have other letters being sent in addition to the committee will they ignore those too?

I called and asked them when I submitted my LOR form, they said that other letters would be considered if they were mailed directly to the admissions office. However, the only AMCAS letters they accept are the ones you indicate on the form. I went ahead and had two of my writers send them in, and the admissions office confirmed they were added to my file.
 
I wasn't able to tour the facilities at Indianapolis. What do current students think? Is there a decent sim lab, a good medical library, enough private/group study areas, a good anatomy lab, etc.?

Also, what are the chances of getting into Indianapolis's campus? I know not everyone can go there but I'm curious at how many pick Indianapolis as there first choice and end up somewhere else. I would really prefer to be in Indianapolis because of the research opportunities. I also don't want to have to move after my second year of med school and plan on doing most of my rotations in Indianapolis.

Thanks for any insight!

You can't "pick Indy as your first choice". You either rank the campuses (excluding Indy), or you enter a lottery to get the Indy campus.
 
Do they do silent rejections pre-interview? I got the initial email from them saying they had received my app and were reviewing it but haven't heard anything since. Thanks!

They do not do silent rejections. My friend received a rejection letter about a month ago.
 
You can't "pick Indy as your first choice". You either rank the campuses (excluding Indy), or you enter a lottery to get the Indy campus.
Huh? I've only got one option on my applicant portal for that right now. It instructs me to rank all campuses, including Indy, for the impending lottery.

Also, I found this survival guide with some nice descriptions of classes and things to do at each campus -- link link -- if anyone's interested.
 
Huh? I've only got one option on my applicant portal for that right now. It instructs me to rank all campuses, including Indy, for the impending lottery.

Also, I found this survival guide with some nice descriptions of classes and things to do at each campus -- link link -- if anyone's interested.

I think they just changed the selection process this year because I only have one option as well.
 
GOT MY LETTER TODAY! Accepted at last. I interviewed in early November and received an email late November saying my file was complete and under consideration. ELATED right now.
 
GOT MY LETTER TODAY! Accepted at last. I interviewed in early November and received an email late November saying my file was complete and under consideration. ELATED right now.

Are you IS or OOS?
 
Anyone interviewed on 9/4, still waiting on a decision?
 
Anyone interviewed on 9/4, still waiting on a decision?

*stretches hand to the sky*

At this point I'm expecting a rejection letter come March, lol. And I thought I had such a good interview, too! I'm OOS, though...and luckily have an acceptance elsewhere so I'm not too worried about IU.
 
*stretches hand to the sky*

At this point I'm expecting a rejection letter come March, lol. And I thought I had such a good interview, too! I'm OOS, though...and luckily have an acceptance elsewhere so I'm not too worried about IU.

Also OOS here. and also have acceptances elsewhere. But it'll be nice to have this option too!

yup! it's been too long!

Glad I am not alone!
 
Also OOS here. and also have acceptances elsewhere. But it'll be nice to have this option too!

Glad I am not alone!

Oh I agree--would love to have options. But I'm tired of getting my hopes up over snail mail when it's been months since interview day and I still haven't gotten a decision yet...
 
I wasn't able to tour the facilities at Indianapolis. What do current students think? Is there a decent sim lab, a good medical library, enough private/group study areas, a good anatomy lab, etc.?

Also, what are the chances of getting into Indianapolis's campus? I know not everyone can go there but I'm curious at how many pick Indianapolis as there first choice and end up somewhere else. I would really prefer to be in Indianapolis because of the research opportunities. I also don't want to have to move after my second year of med school and plan on doing most of my rotations in Indianapolis.

Thanks for any insight!

I am a current fourth year medical student at IU. I volunteered to "mingle" with interviewees on a couple occasions. I was very surprised to find out that the students do not get a tour of campus anymore. In my opinion that was a poor choice and I've made my views known to the administration on that. Currently, it is not included in the interview day but you can schedule a tour through the admissions ambassadors at a later date.

The campus is really a strong point. I will address your points directly.

The simulation lab is great and used very frequently. It is located in Fairbanks Hall which is not on campus but is connected with the "People Mover," a free raised tram that connects Methodist, Riley, and University hospitals downtown. The People Mover makes it a snap to go between these hospitals, the library/lecture halls, sim lab, and pathology lab. It is a short 5 minute ride. As students we use the sim lab mostly for practicing exams or simple procedures on mannequins or people. We also have several OSCE's where we interview patient actors and are graded while doctors watch via cameras. It prepares you very well for Step 2 CS. There are also rooms set up to exactly mimic an OR, a trauma bay in the ER, etc. We learned how to practice sterile technique in the sim lab OR's and we were given a lifelike mannequin crashing in the trauma bay and they let us have it. We've practiced central line placement and intubations there too. It is also often used by residents from several specialties.

The library is great! The building was remodeled about 3 years ago. The actual books are on the first floor (does anybody ever use those things?) there are about 20 individual computer stations throughout the first 2 floors, many with dual monitors. In addition there are 4 computer labs with something like 30 computers in each of them which you can usually use unless the MS1 or MS2's are taking a test. There's also a computer lab next to the lecture halls. I've never been looking for a computer and haven't found one immediately. There are study rooms and individual study carrels in the library. Many students do group studies in these rooms. There are also rooms near the med student lounge used for small group discussions that can be used for studying. These are almost always enough except around finals time. Some students prefer the law school or undergrad libraries for whatever reason.

The real meat of any Med School Library is its website and ours is second to none. Through the website we have electronic access to a huge amount of medical textbooks and journals. They just added First Aid to the list. The librarians are great if you need help locating anything.

Anatomy lab is adequate. I don't really know how you could improve one to be honest. Every 1st year student is given a locker where you can keep a change of clothes in the med student lounge. The anatomy lab is just a flight of stairs up. It is a huge room with a cold hard floor and cold hard metal tables. I imagine it's the same just about anywhere. There are big screen tv's throughout the room so that the professor can point out a structure on his dissection and everyone in the room can see. The anatomy lab and sim center are both used by many programs. Residents frequently use both, PT students and dental students share the anatomy lab with you and occasionally paramedics, nursing students are also at the sim center.

I have no idea about campus selection. That stuff changes every year. Many centers are now transitioning to 4 year centers, but that is about the extent of my knowledge on the subject. I did early decision so we got first dibs on campus. I was Indy all 4 years.
 
Huh? I've only got one option on my applicant portal for that right now. It instructs me to rank all campuses, including Indy, for the impending lottery.

Also, I found this survival guide with some nice descriptions of classes and things to do at each campus -- link link -- if anyone's interested.

Oh, maybe they changed it this year? That is strange.
 
I am a current fourth year medical student at IU. I volunteered to "mingle" with interviewees on a couple occasions. I was very surprised to find out that the students do not get a tour of campus anymore. In my opinion that was a poor choice and I've made my views known to the administration on that. Currently, it is not included in the interview day but you can schedule a tour through the admissions ambassadors at a later date.

The campus is really a strong point. I will address your points directly.

The simulation lab is great and used very frequently. It is located in Fairbanks Hall which is not on campus but is connected with the "People Mover," a free raised tram that connects Methodist, Riley, and University hospitals downtown. The People Mover makes it a snap to go between these hospitals, the library/lecture halls, sim lab, and pathology lab. It is a short 5 minute ride. As students we use the sim lab mostly for practicing exams or simple procedures on mannequins or people. We also have several OSCE's where we interview patient actors and are graded while doctors watch via cameras. It prepares you very well for Step 2 CS. There are also rooms set up to exactly mimic an OR, a trauma bay in the ER, etc. We learned how to practice sterile technique in the sim lab OR's and we were given a lifelike mannequin crashing in the trauma bay and they let us have it. We've practiced central line placement and intubations there too. It is also often used by residents from several specialties.

The library is great! The building was remodeled about 3 years ago. The actual books are on the first floor (does anybody ever use those things?) there are about 20 individual computer stations throughout the first 2 floors, many with dual monitors. In addition there are 4 computer labs with something like 30 computers in each of them which you can usually use unless the MS1 or MS2's are taking a test. There's also a computer lab next to the lecture halls. I've never been looking for a computer and haven't found one immediately. There are study rooms and individual study carrels in the library. Many students do group studies in these rooms. There are also rooms near the med student lounge used for small group discussions that can be used for studying. These are almost always enough except around finals time. Some students prefer the law school or undergrad libraries for whatever reason.

The real meat of any Med School Library is its website and ours is second to none. Through the website we have electronic access to a huge amount of medical textbooks and journals. They just added First Aid to the list. The librarians are great if you need help locating anything.

Anatomy lab is adequate. I don't really know how you could improve one to be honest. Every 1st year student is given a locker where you can keep a change of clothes in the med student lounge. The anatomy lab is just a flight of stairs up. It is a huge room with a cold hard floor and cold hard metal tables. I imagine it's the same just about anywhere. There are big screen tv's throughout the room so that the professor can point out a structure on his dissection and everyone in the room can see. The anatomy lab and sim center are both used by many programs. Residents frequently use both, PT students and dental students share the anatomy lab with you and occasionally paramedics, nursing students are also at the sim center.

I have no idea about campus selection. That stuff changes every year. Many centers are now transitioning to 4 year centers, but that is about the extent of my knowledge on the subject. I did early decision so we got first dibs on campus. I was Indy all 4 years.

Thanks for the insight! It helps a lot! Do you also have any info about Indiana's match? I was told there is a copy of previous matches in the library but I'm OOS and can't visit the library until I move. I'm sure they match well but I was curious if the large class size makes it more difficult to stand out and match into a residency of choice. I have a few acceptances and I'm still waiting to hear from my in state school but right now Indiana is my top choice. Thanks for all your help!
 
Thanks for the insight! It helps a lot! Do you also have any info about Indiana's match? I was told there is a copy of previous matches in the library but I'm OOS and can't visit the library until I move. I'm sure they match well but I was curious if the large class size makes it more difficult to stand out and match into a residency of choice. I have a few acceptances and I'm still waiting to hear from my in state school but right now Indiana is my top choice. Thanks for all your help!

They broadcast the match ceremony and email the list annually. It makes it great to see that former applicants are going to specialties and programs that you are interested in and you can potentially network with them. Suffice it to say that we have a very robust match every year.

I feel pretty strongly that as a pre med it would be near impossible to accurately interpret a match list. Not everyone wants to go into a competitive field, and even in not so competitive specialties there are programs (many of which you would likely never had heard of) which attract cream of the crop applicants. For instance, I never would have known that Washington state has one of the most competitive IM programs, Muncie IN has the most competitive FM program (they do exist lol) in the area. Also I had no idea how hard it was to get in Urology or easy to get into PM and R.

I'd hate to give you a falsely negative view of the school because you weren't aware of the competitive specialties/programs or vice versa a falsely elevated view since IU has very large anesthesia and radiology programs which heavily recruit in-house applicants.
 
They broadcast the match ceremony and email the list annually. It makes it great to see that former applicants are going to specialties and programs that you are interested in and you can potentially network with them. Suffice it to say that we have a very robust match every year.

I feel pretty strongly that as a pre med it would be near impossible to accurately interpret a match list. Not everyone wants to go into a competitive field, and even in not so competitive specialties there are programs (many of which you would likely never had heard of) which attract cream of the crop applicants. For instance, I never would have known that Washington state has one of the most competitive IM programs, Muncie IN has the most competitive FM program (they do exist lol) in the area. Also I had no idea how hard it was to get in Urology or easy to get into PM and R.

I'd hate to give you a falsely negative view of the school because you weren't aware of the competitive specialties/programs or vice versa a falsely elevated view since IU has very large anesthesia and radiology programs which heavily recruit in-house applicants.

Thanks again for all the insight! I feel much better knowing more about the school and match!
 
Accepted today! Interviewed 11/6. OOS.

Congrats on your acceptance! I'm also OOS and interviewed around the same time.
I was wondering where your letter was delivered to (i.e. how far from Indiana?) and what are your stats if you don't mind divulging! Thanks in advance 🙂
 
Will those who have been accepted please let us know when you receive the three emails from IU?
 
Will those who have been accepted please let us know when you receive the three emails from IU?

Dunno about three but I got two today, one about campus preferences and one about submitting a technical standards form
 
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