2015-2016 Rosalind Franklin University Application Thread

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I'm rooting for you, but keep in mind that if it's next week, people that interviewed the week I did will be at 7 weeks, and the week before at 8.
 
bunchesonothing said:
I haven't heard back yet and I interviewed on that day. I asked and they told me they hope to have some decisions out this or next week.
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+1 for 1/27. I also hope it's this week. Not expecting anything more than a waitlist email, though.
 
Just received interview invite and scheduled for this Friday afternoon. I've seen some posts about an email they send 1-2 weeks beforehand with interview details, can anyone PM me this message? I'm wondering what to expect, as this is my first II. Anyone else interviewing this Friday?
 
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alfie94 said:
Just because RFU waitlists most. Trying to stay realistic 🙂
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IMO being realistic is saying you don't know what will happen, not necessarily believing in a less than ideal outcome regardless of odds. So much of this is not just flat odds, we just don't know exactly how we stack up, so we use odds to guess. But we're not just names they're pulling out of a hat.

I think a lot of us try to anticipate outcomes because it makes us feel like we have a better handle on the situation. I've just recently come to terms with the idea that, in this process, it's just better to admit we don't know what the heck is happening and try to come to peace with that. As difficult as that is.
 
bunchesonothing said:
IMO being realistic is saying you don't know what will happen, not necessarily believing in a less than ideal outcome regardless of odds. So much of this is not just flat odds, we just don't know exactly how we stack up, so we use odds to guess. But we're not just names they're pulling out of a hat.

I think a lot of us try to anticipate outcomes because it makes us feel like we have a better handle on the situation. I've just recently come to terms with the idea that, in this process, it's just better to admit we don't know what the heck is happening and try to come to peace with that.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!


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bunchesonothing said:
IMO being realistic is saying you don't know what will happen, not necessarily believing in a less than ideal outcome regardless of odds. So much of this is not just flat odds, we just don't know exactly how we stack up, so we use odds to guess. But we're not just names they're pulling out of a hat.

I think a lot of us try to anticipate outcomes because it makes us feel like we have a better handle on the situation. I've just recently come to terms with the idea that, in this process, it's just better to admit we don't know what the heck is happening and try to come to peace with that. As difficult as that is.
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Okay, I'll play. When I say I'm being realistic, I'm basing this off what I know to be true. Not the absolute truth, but I know that RFU waitlists many people. It's hard to determine what type of person they're looking for. I, along with many other people, have not been able to determine any type of pattern for the decisions they make and when they make them.

What you're saying is that people should not expect anything because they cannot guarantee it. This is true, not just for this application process, but for life in general. Yet, people make decisions based on what they know to be reasonably true every single day. You applied to medical school because you believed, based on the information around you about the application process, medical schools, and your knowledge of yourself, that you had a reasonable chance of admission. You can't say don't have expectations because your expectation may be false-- of course that's true. But that doesn't stop me, or you, even, from making decisions and having reasonable expectations for the outcome.
 
alfie94 said:
Okay, I'll play. When I say I'm being realistic, I'm basing this off what I know to be true. Not the absolute truth, but I know that RFU waitlists many people. It's hard to determine what type of person they're looking for. I, along with many other people, have not been able to determine any type of pattern for the decisions they make and when they make them.

What you're saying is that people should not expect anything because they cannot guarantee it. This is true, not just for this application process, but for life in general. Yet, people make decisions based on what they know to be reasonably true every single day. You applied to medical school because you believed, based on the information around you about the application process, medical schools, and your knowledge of yourself, that you had a reasonable chance of admission. You can't say don't have expectations because your expectation may be false-- of course that's true. But that doesn't stop me, or you, even, from making decisions and having reasonable expectations for
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My story is kind of an odd non-trad one. I can explain off thread if you're interested. This has been a dream of mine. I have worked for it, but there has always been a serious possibility, due to my personal history, of it not working out. So honestly, I don't have a reasonable expectation for this, specifically. And if you read SDN, I'd be a serious outlier if accepted.

This has always been a, "Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars" kind of thing. The only expectation I have is that I will be able to do something with my degree that will make me happy. This being my top choice. And I want to make the most of my life, having lost loved ones far too early.

All I'm saying is that these cognitive tricks we have to make decisions on, easy as they are for us, do lead us astray. And when they lead us to count on negative outcome, they're far more along the lines of depressive thought patterns than being uplifting or even representing the truth of a situation.
 
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cysticduct said:
To clear up some confusion about the BMS program.

For Admissions:
-ALL BMS students are guaranteed an interview.
-NONE of them get any other benefits. The process for admissions to CMS is the same as any other applicant.
-BMS students tend to interview later. These last few interview days will have a higher proportion of BMS students interviewing.
-There are NO RESERVED spots for BMS students. The number of BMS students that have matriculated into CMS has declined each year.

After Matriculation:
-BMS students who matriculate into CMS have taken approximately half the courses. They are referred to as M1As. They do not need to retake those courses.
-This means that they can help current students. Some offer tutoring and hold review sessions through the school.
-You are ranked with them. CMS is P/F for the first two years, however your percentile/ranking is kept for AOA and residency purposes. BMS students tend to be at the top of their class during their BMS year. It is competitive for them and they are in fact competing against each other to get into CMS.
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BMS students definitely have a slight advantage; their interviews are not taken as seriously, and their GPAs in the BMS program very clearly play a large role in determining whether they are accepted. Or rather, their interviews, historically, have not held as much weight. Our students who fail Step I have, historically, come from the BMS class, which is why the number of BMS students accepted each year has declined. In addition, [almost all of] our biggest professionalism screw-ups have historically come from the BMS class as well, though they are certainly outliers both in terms of general standards and in terms of BMS students in general, most of whom are, at least, reasonable students.

But the process is only the same on the face, and BMS students are evaluated very differently than straight-entry CMS students because they're usually compensating for MCAT, GPA, or both.
 
songl4a said:
Interesting.

So, the SMP students still apply through AMCAS, so I assume they'll be applying to other schools as well. And those that do well in the SMP (top of class, graded along with medical students) would therefore exhibit their ability to do well in medical school and would it follow that they are likely to get multiple acceptances and attend another institution?
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It depends on what they're looking for I guess. The BMS program is about 50k so they've already made a pretty big investment in RFU and being an M1A where they only have to take half the amount of classes is pretty beneficial. It allows them to get a ton of research experience during their first year of med school if they're looking for really competitive fields. If they go to a different med school, they don't receive the same M1A benefit.
 
pshock7 said:
It depends on what they're looking for I guess. The BMS program is about 50k so they've already made a pretty big investment in RFU and being an M1A where they only have to take half the amount of classes is pretty beneficial. It allows them to get a ton of research experience during their first year of med school if they're looking for really competitive fields. If they go to a different med school, they don't receive the same M1A benefit.
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This is pretty accurate; my roommate, for example, was accepted to another md school but chose CMS because she didn't want to repeat biochemistry, cell biology, neuro, and physiology and also knew that she'd receive A's in all of the first year courses because her course load would be so light.


Large dogs
 
tantacles said:
This is pretty accurate; my roommate, for example, was accepted to another md school but chose CMS because she didn't want to repeat biochemistry, cell biology, neuro, and physiology and also knew that she'd receive A's in all of the first year courses because her course load would be so light.


Large dogs
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What's up with the "large dogs" at the end of some of your posts? Thanks for all the great info by the way!


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bananafish94 said:
What's up with the "large dogs" at the end of some of your posts? Thanks for all the great info by the way!


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It's my signature on my phone.

Also, you know what I love?


Large dogs
 
Did you get waitlisted today?
songl4a said:
If one is waitlisted, I'm guessing a letter of intent is futile since they don't accept updates either and I believe after March 10 or 18, adcoms can see where one holds acceptances.
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songl4a said:
No, just wasting time thinking of hypotheticals. Probably won't be hearing back for a while since people are already at 6-8 weeks of waiting who interviewed before me.
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If you do get waitlisted, I don't think there's any harm in asking them if they're receptive to letters of intent. I don't entirely understand why there is so much vitriol towards letters of intent on SDN; at one school where I was waitlisted, the dean of admissions personally told me to send a letter of intent if I wanted to go there. Then again, Rosalind Franklin may or may not accept them--they seem pretty averse to any kind of update.
 
songl4a said:
Yea, this thread had me thinking.
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Yeah, that's a problem I have with SDN in general. By and large, I think that the admissions people on here give excellent advice, but they are only speaking for their own institutions. At two of the schools I interviewed with, they straight-up said that they consider letters of intent during their presentation. It often seems that once some piece of advice has been handed down by the SDN admissions users, you're vilified if you try to counter it with anything.
 
altrock3 said:
Just in case anyone was wondering. I sent in an LOI after being put on the alternate list and just received this email in response (as expected):

"Good morning:

Thank you for your email. Please note, we cannot accept any additional information or materials unless it includes Institutional Action, Felony, Misdemeanor or Military Discharge explanations. Your application remain on the Alternate List. We cannot guarantee a time frame for when you will receive a final decision. Please note that the Alternate list is not ranked. The Admissions Committee will continue to review your application regularly and may make a decision at any time, even up to the first week of class.

Should you have any further questions, please contact us at [email protected]. For frequently asked questions, please visit our FAQ's page."

So its a no go on trying to break the rules. I probably just aggravated them and ruined my chances 🙁
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bananafish94 said:
Yeah, that's a problem I have with SDN in general. By and large, I think that the admissions people on here give excellent advice, but they are only speaking for their own institutions. At two of the schools I interviewed with, they straight-up said that they consider letters of intent during their presentation. It often seems that once some piece of advice has been handed down by the SDN admissions users, you're vilified if you try to counter it with anything.
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RFU is interesting as in their alternate list letter, they specifically indicate that they cannot accept any materials unless its something bad. "Please note we cannot accept any additional information or materials for your file, unless it concerns an Institutional Action, Felony, Misdemeanor or Military Discharge." Not sure if that is just a way for them to discourage only the most determined from sending a letter.
 
bandwagoner said:
RFU is interesting as in their alternate list letter, they specifically indicate that they cannot accept any materials unless its something bad. "Please note we cannot accept any additional information or materials for your file, unless it concerns an Institutional Action, Felony, Misdemeanor or Military Discharge." Not sure if that is just a way for them to discourage only the most determined from sending a letter.
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Dude, it's their way of discouraging EVERYONE from sending a letter.


Large dogs
 
It kinda makes sense, pretty sure Rosalind wait lists more people than they directly reject, so updates/letters of intent/etc would be overwhelming from so many students.
 
alfie94 said:
Waitlist, interviewed 1/27
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Wow based on the past couple months purely on SDN it seems like they really are waitlisting most, if not all, interviews. That doesn't say much about the odds of getting in off the post Interview waitlist if there's such a high number of people on it 🙁
 
altrock3 said:
Wow based on the past couple months purely on SDN it seems like they really are waitlisting most, if not all, interviews. That doesn't say much about the odds of getting in off the post Interview waitlist if there's such a high number of people on it 🙁
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It doesn't seem like they're accepting many outright either. My guess is that some will need to come off.
 
I was interview waitlisted on 2/22 and I received an interview offer last night. I was sure interview waitlist was going to be a rejection.
 
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