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Did anyone get a post-II rejection? I am now worrying that most of these waitlists are rejections in disguise 🙁
 
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rejected pre-interview. submitted 9/13, under review 10/22.

first i’ve heard back from any school this cycle. as a service-oriented applicant with a 75 LM – this hurts a bit.
 
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rejected pre-interview. submitted 9/13, under review 10/22.

first i’ve heard back from any school this cycle. as a service-oriented applicant with a 75 LM – this hurts a bit.
I will say that at my interivew, they said they’re not just looking for service oriented applicants but really for those that have a lot of experience with different cultures/types of people especially underserved populations.
 
I will say that at my interivew, they said they’re not just looking for service oriented applicants but really for those that have a lot of experience with different cultures/types of people especially underserved populations.

If this is true, this gives me a tiny bit of hope of getting off the "on hold" status...
 
For those of you who have Tulane as your first choice, what makes it your top choice? Is it mostly the location?
 
For those of you who have Tulane as your first choice, what makes it your top choice? Is it mostly the location?

-Location that also has a unique population
- super support from the admin that’s also very responsive to what students need/want
- true p/f curriculum
- no one there isn’t excited to be there and the whole day is spent talking about how collaborative it is
- nice weather most days
 
I will say that at my interivew, they said they’re not just looking for service oriented applicants but really for those that have a lot of experience with different cultures/types of people especially underserved populations.

If this were true, I wouldn't have been placed on hold 🙁. Jk, but for real though.
 
For those of you who have Tulane as your first choice, what makes it your top choice? Is it mostly the location?
Adding on to @medschoolzombie
  • Access to live jazz music and swing dancing any day of the week. Test on Wednesday? Can literally dance of the stress that same night. Thanks to those particular hobbies, I will have a life outside of medicine and be able to make friends with other New Orleans residents.
  • Teaching kitchen sounds like an exciting way to explore a new hobby, develop a new skill, and share that skill with a community. Mutual beneficence.
  • I've spoken with leaders of a couple of NGOs in New Orleans for a school project, so I'm somewhat privy to the impact of Katrina
  • I'm interested in psychiatry, and people in New Orleans are still suffering from PTSD, homelessness, and other issues related to mental health as a result of Katrina. No shortage of patients that need help.
  • No classes during Mardi Gras
  • My friends outside of medicine will visit me. Most people are down to visit New Orleans for a fun weekend!
  • I have an interest in international health, specifically in mental health epidemiology, mental health access, drug pricing for psychopharmaceuticals, and cross-cultural psychiatry. Although Tulane's global health opportunities focus on tropical medicine, I am sure that there is at least some Tulane faculty member that has a connection to the World Health Organization. Through the WHO, I can probably find an opportunity to do research in a country that I'm interested in.
  • Also interested in forensic psychiatry, and Tulane has a forensic psychiatry program, so it'd probably be a good place to get started on research there, too
  • DeBakey Scholars Program offers mentored research opportunities. Very important to me to have a mentor across all four years because connections are important in medicine, and it will be helpful to have someone bat for me when it comes time to apply for residencies
  • Students emphasized that they are social and down to have a good time. The only place that I have interviewed at where students told me that they like to have fun (without me or another applicant having to ask them), that was Yale.
  • In case of an emergency, my hometown is only a one hour flight away.
  • I could see myself living in New Orleans for residency and beyond
I think the last point is the most important...I want to live in New Orleans. I think it'd be a good fit for my mental health!

No other school has a list of pros that appeals to me as specifically as Tulane does. So it's really a no-brainer...but I'm definitely praying for a scholarship, that tuition + COL is no joke!
 
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-Location that also has a unique population
- super support from the admin that’s also very responsive to what students need/want
- true p/f curriculum
- no one there isn’t excited to be there and the whole day is spent talking about how collaborative it is
- nice weather most days

But it’s not a true p/f. There are internal quartile rankings during the first two years that you don’t have access to, which gets put on your dean’s letter.
 
Adding on to @medschoolzombie
  • Access to live jazz music and swing dancing any day of the week. Test on Wednesday? Can literally dance of the stress that same night. Thanks to those particular hobbies, I will have a life outside of medicine and be able to make friends with other New Orleans residents.
  • Teaching kitchen sounds like an exciting way to explore a new hobby, develop a new skill, and share that skill with a community. Mutual beneficence.
  • I've spoken with leaders of a couple of NGOs in New Orleans for a school project, so I'm somewhat privy to the impact of Katrina
  • I'm interested in psychiatry, and people in New Orleans are still suffering from PTSD, homelessness, and other issues related to mental health as a result of Katrina. No shortage of patients that need help.
  • No classes during Mardi Gras
  • My friends outside of medicine will visit me. Most people are down to visit New Orleans for a fun weekend!
  • I have an interest in international health, specifically in mental health epidemiology, mental health access, drug pricing for psychopharmaceuticals, and cross-cultural psychiatry. Although Tulane's global health opportunities focus on tropical medicine, I am sure that there is at least some Tulane faculty member that has a connection to the World Health Organization. Through the WHO, I can probably find an opportunity to do research in a country that I'm interested in.
  • Also interested in forensic psychiatry, and Tulane has a forensic psychiatry program, so it'd probably be a good place to get started on research there, too
  • DeBakey Scholars Program offers mentored research opportunities. Very important to me to have a mentor across all four years because connections are important in medicine, and it will be helpful to have someone bat for me when it comes time to apply for residencies
  • Students emphasized that they are social and down to have a good time. The only place that I have interviewed at where students told me that they like to have fun (without me or another applicant having to ask them), that was Yale.
  • In case of an emergency, my hometown is only a one hour flight away.
  • I could see myself living in New Orleans for residency and beyond
I think the last point is the most important...I want to live in New Orleans. I think it'd be a good fit for my mental health!

No other school has a list of pros that appeals to me as specifically as Tulane does. So it's really a no-brainer...but I'm definitely praying for a scholarship, that tuition + COL is no joke!
Adding onto what everybody has said, being able to have the opportunities and experience of treating patients that are diverse and seeing all the different tropical diseases is amazing in my opinion.

On my interview day, everybody was so nice and accommodating. The faculty, staff, and students I talked to were awesome. Also, I was having trouble finding the bus stop and I stepped into the front desk area of the hospital and asked a security guard where the stop was. He literally went out of his way to help me - walking me out to the bus stop that was a few minutes away.
 
But it’s not a true p/f. There are internal quartile rankings during the first two years that you don’t have access to, which gets put on your dean’s letter.
All the students said that almost nobody cares about the rank and it's really not emphasized at all in your letter.
 
But it’s not a true p/f. There are internal quartile rankings during the first two years that you don’t have access to, which gets put on your dean’s letter.
According to the students and the dean, it is a true p/f. They have quartile ranking but it’s apparently only for internal purposes and not reported to residencies
 
All the students said that almost nobody cares about the rank and it's really not emphasized at all in your letter.

Your quartile does matter and it is reported in your letter. Pass fail is kind of a hoax. I know this from current students. Tulane also has AOA honor society for juniors and seniors, which distinguishes the top 7 juniors the top 25% of seniors who also have significant leadership experience.


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Your quartile does matter and it is reported in your letter. Pass fail is kind of a hoax. I know this from current students. Tulane also has AOA honor society for juniors and seniors, which distinguishes the top 7 juniors the top 25% of seniors who also have significant leadership experience.
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The students at my day said it’s a true p/f first 2 years due to high student interest. Everyone there really emphasized that this school doesn’t want gunners/a intracompetitive environment so they’re doing everything possible to limit that.
 
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According to the students and the dean, it is a true p/f. They have quartile ranking but it’s apparently only for internal purposes and not reported to residencies

Sorry I heard from students that Dean Khan does indeed include your quartile rankings in your letter for residency. Can any current students clarify this?
 
Sorry I heard from students that Dean Khan does indeed include your quartile rankings in your letter for residency. Can any current students clarify this?
That’s the mba guy right? This is what the deans of admissions told us along with current M1s/M2s. They said it’s what contributed to keeping such a chill environment there. There’s no need to worry about it being reported out.
 
They told us on interview day that it's one sentence for each of the first two years of school and the emphasis is far more on years 3 and 4.

I got the feeling that if one cares a lot about rank, Tulane probably isn't the student body culture to fit that.
 
They told us on interview day that it's one sentence for each of the first two years of school and the emphasis is far more on years 3 and 4.

I got the feeling that if one cares a lot about rank, Tulane probably isn't the student body culture to fit that.

At the same time, it seems like they want students to not get hung up about rank while they still report it and while they still differentiate higher performers with quartile rank and AOA.

The preclinical grades don’t count much toward the class rank; all of them are weighted the same as 1 rotation, if that’s any consolation. However, I take issue with the fact that students and faculty insisted preclinical were true p/f when it’s "almost true p/f"

Just because a student doesn’t care about rank, and just because it’s "not emphasized in the dean’s letter" doesn’t mean that residency programs are gonna gloss over it. They’ll note it and it will play a role in their decisions. Granted, class rank matters less for the most populated specialties, but if you want something competitive (derm, ortho, etc) then you really ought to closely heed your class rank.

I’d imagine that although Tulane puts less of an emphasis on stats, with tuition alone rapidly approaching 70k, students that attend will be more interested in the competitive specialties (and perhaps EM, IM sub specialties, and whatever else pays well), and will be slightly more gunner-ish, regardless of who is footing the bill.

I don’t want this to be taken as an invective toward TUSOM, and I welcome any and all counterpoints. I was very pleased with the school overall on my interview day. Part of me hopes someone can soundly prove some of this wrong.


P.S. I’m pretty sure all schools have to report a class rank of some kind. What differentiates schools is how they determine the rank. Some people loathe the systems where clinical grades determine everything, because these grades are less in their control than preclinical.
 
Does anyone know when Tulane hands out scholarships and such? Is it not until later in the spring or did some go out with initial acceptances?
 
At the same time, it seems like they want students to not get hung up about rank while they still report it and while they still differentiate higher performers with quartile rank and AOA.

The preclinical grades don’t count much toward the class rank; all of them are weighted the same as 1 rotation, if that’s any consolation. However, I take issue with the fact that students and faculty insisted preclinical were true p/f when it’s "almost true p/f"

Just because a student doesn’t care about rank, and just because it’s "not emphasized in the dean’s letter" doesn’t mean that residency programs are gonna gloss over it. They’ll note it and it will play a role in their decisions. Granted, class rank matters less for the most populated specialties, but if you want something competitive (derm, ortho, etc) then you really ought to closely heed your class rank.

I’d imagine that although Tulane puts less of an emphasis on stats, with tuition alone rapidly approaching 70k, students that attend will be more interested in the competitive specialties (and perhaps EM, IM sub specialties, and whatever else pays well), and will be slightly more gunner-ish, regardless of who is footing the bill.

I don’t want this to be taken as an invective toward TUSOM, and I welcome any and all counterpoints. I was very pleased with the school overall on my interview day. Part of me hopes someone can soundly prove some of this wrong.


P.S. I’m pretty sure all schools have to report a class rank of some kind. What differentiates schools is how they determine the rank. Some people loathe the systems where clinical grades determine everything, because these grades are less in their control than preclinical.

No idea how but at my interview day, the students made sure to tell us that the adminstration shuts down gunners asap

The students themselves didn't seem very concerned about rank/grades. They were all talking about how they failed a few tests and were completely fine. At least on my day, they said it's a very non competitive environment because there isn't a gunner mentality and ranks aren't reported outside the school. Whether that's really the case, who knows
 
No idea how but at my interview day, the students made sure to tell us that the adminstration shuts down gunners asap

The students themselves didn't seem very concerned about rank/grades. They were all talking about how they failed a few tests and were completely fine. At least on my day, they said it's a very non competitive environment because there isn't a gunner mentality and ranks aren't reported outside the school. Whether that's really the case, who knows

Quartiles are on your letter. I know this from actual fourth year students applying for residency right now. Yes the students are friendly, but it’s not true that your quartile isn’t reported.


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M1/M2's were at our interview day. From what I remember, M3 and especially M4 are when students begin to care about the quartile rankings. This is probably why it didn't seem like a concern. (and it really shouldn't be a big one but just a small factor) I personally think the rankings are a good thing in case you go for something uber competitive.

If you really want to see it from another perspective, this (#4F) is a good read that covers the topic.
 
Does anyone know when Tulane hands out scholarships and such? Is it not until later in the spring or did some go out with initial acceptances?
I think it is later in the spring. You should have received an email regarding logging into an online portal concerning financial aid.
 
I'm not sure if it was mentioned somewhere in this thread but I was placed on hold about 8 weeks ago and I was wondering if anyone knows what my chances are at this point?
 
I'm not sure if it was mentioned somewhere in this thread but I was placed on hold about 8 weeks ago and I was wondering if anyone knows what my chances are at this point?
There are so many applications...I would say just be patient at this point and then maybe send a letter of interest in December.
 
No idea how but at my interview day, the students made sure to tell us that the adminstration shuts down gunners asap

The students themselves didn't seem very concerned about rank/grades. They were all talking about how they failed a few tests and were completely fine. At least on my day, they said it's a very non competitive environment because there isn't a gunner mentality and ranks aren't reported outside the school. Whether that's really the case, who knows

Devil's advocate: what if someone might seem like a gunner at first, but they're really just working hard or something like that? There are multiple students there now that do in fact care about where they rank. Are they gunners? Will them inquiring about their class rank damage their reputation? Also, the rank is in fact included in the quartile letter. Dean Kahn or whoever was presenting about that said that its mentioned in-passing with "good", "great", "excellent", etc, but PD's will take note of it and will likely be able to determine what your quartile actually was.

Again, I think we really should clear this up before the next batch of students goes there next year and >80% of them pay 68k or more in tuition. It's awesome that the students didn't seem overly concerned with grades. That's the vibe I got, but I think the finer details should be laid out for all to see.

Something else that ought to be brought to surface is the exam schedule. From what I remember, it's no joke, and on average there is a test once every two weeks. I realize that lots of other med schools have it like this but preferences for exam spacing is something often overlooked when choosing a school.
 
Devil's advocate: what if someone might seem like a gunner at first, but they're really just working hard or something like that? There are multiple students there now that do in fact care about where they rank. Are they gunners? Will them inquiring about their class rank damage their reputation? Also, the rank is in fact included in the quartile letter. Dean Kahn or whoever was presenting about that said that its mentioned in-passing with "good", "great", "excellent", etc, but PD's will take note of it and will likely be able to determine what your quartile actually was.

Again, I think we really should clear this up before the next batch of students goes there next year and >80% of them pay 68k or more in tuition. It's awesome that the students didn't seem overly concerned with grades. That's the vibe I got, but I think the finer details should be laid out for all to see.

Something else that ought to be brought to surface is the exam schedule. From what I remember, it's no joke, and on average there is a test once every two weeks. I realize that lots of other med schools have it like this but preferences for exam spacing is something often overlooked when choosing a school.


That’s true. True gunner mentality includes sabotaging others, not sharing resources etc. I think the other students can tell after a few weeks.

Where are the current students on here when you need them lol.

The exam schedule is interesting. They have shelf exams after every block which I’ve never heard of in pre clinical years. At least in anatomy they have a test every two weeks but the students liked that cause that means there’s more grades to buffer your final grade and it’s not all based on a cumulative final
 
That’s true. True gunner mentality includes sabotaging others, not sharing resources etc. I think the other students can tell after a few weeks.

Where are the current students on here when you need them lol.

The exam schedule is interesting. They have shelf exams after every block which I’ve never heard of in pre clinical years. At least in anatomy they have a test every two weeks but the students liked that cause that means there’s more grades to buffer your final grade and it’s not all based on a cumulative final

The buffer thing is of course true, but it reminds me of my high school days where there were so many tests and I was more sleep deprived than in college...
 
Devil's advocate: what if someone might seem like a gunner at first, but they're really just working hard or something like that? There are multiple students there now that do in fact care about where they rank. Are they gunners? Will them inquiring about their class rank damage their reputation? Also, the rank is in fact included in the quartile letter. Dean Kahn or whoever was presenting about that said that its mentioned in-passing with "good", "great", "excellent", etc, but PD's will take note of it and will likely be able to determine what your quartile actually was.

Again, I think we really should clear this up before the next batch of students goes there next year and >80% of them pay 68k or more in tuition. It's awesome that the students didn't seem overly concerned with grades. That's the vibe I got, but I think the finer details should be laid out for all to see.

Something else that ought to be brought to surface is the exam schedule. From what I remember, it's no joke, and on average there is a test once every two weeks. I realize that lots of other med schools have it like this but preferences for exam spacing is something often overlooked when choosing a school.
In case anyone was interested, here is the exam schedule for first years for 2018-2019.

MD Program ~ Curriculum ~ Year 1 Calendar | medicine
 
Unless I'm looking at it wrong, there's an exam every 2 weeks but that's just about the only thing you have that week total. There's no other classes at least 2 days before that test or until the following week
Yeah, exams are like every other week and they give you at least 1 free day before the exam day to study, which is nice! I honestly really like their curriculum schedule and how they space out their exams.
 
I will say that at my interivew, they said they’re not just looking for service oriented applicants but really for those that have a lot of experience with different cultures/types of people especially underserved populations.

that was my impression as well. i've got 500+ hours volunteering with underserved/marginalized patients and it's sorta the core theme of my app, which is why i felt particularly disappointed this school wasn't interested. oh well! i'll chalk it up to a late app, i guess...
 
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