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Rejected IS. Really thought i was a good fit and loved the program, this is rough.

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Sorry to hear folks got rejected today that's always hard I know what its like. A reminder that if you don't get in somewhere else UW does offer a thorough examination of why you didn't get in and can clarify what you can improve as a reapplicant. Prepare before hand with questions because they expect you to lead the discussion. I found it super helpful so take advantage of that!

On another note don't hang your head if you got bad news today. Just getting to this position at all is a testament to how hard we have all worked and will continue to work and one minor speed bump doesn't change that. Best of luck to everyone!
 
Sheiko said:
Rejected IS. Really thought i was a good fit and loved the program, this is rough.

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I feel this so much right now. Huge blow and anxiety causing since it’s been my only interview so far. But we will make it through if we continue to push forward.
 
Does anybody have a grasp on how many people are going to end up in the SUC pool? SDN makes it seem like it's most people.. which doesn't make it much of a "short list"
 
Empem28 said:
Does anybody have a grasp on how many people are going to end up in the SUC pool? SDN makes it seem like it's most people.. which doesn't make it much of a "short list"
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The SUC pool isn't a finite list of people. It is constantly changing as people are added post-interview, rejected, or accepted. Keep in mind you could remain in the pool until the very end when you get put on the alternate list. You might be confusing SUC with the alternate list?
 
schborke said:
The SUC pool isn't a finite list of people. It is constantly changing as people are added post-interview, rejected, or accepted. Keep in mind you could remain in the pool until the very end when you get put on the alternate list. You might be confusing SUC with the alternate list?
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No, I understand how the SUC population operates.. I was just trying to suss out my "new odds" after being placed in the SUC pool of people, and if anybody had an understanding of how many people are in this pool in March. But it sounds like it is too dynamic to evaluate.. statistically.
 
From my experience, about 50-70% of the class receives a SUC. It varies how many SUCs you receive. I think in my first cycle I had three SUCs which resulted in a 40ish waitlist #/rejection. In my last cycle, I had one/two SUCs and was top 3 on the waitlist.

I know the wait is a killer. Just remind yourself a SUC could mean your Excom member was busy and couldn’t attend the meeting or your file wasn’t discussed or they want to see more applicants.


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In history somewhere, I’ve heard a person receive 6 SUCs or some ridiculous # and got accepted at the end.

Most acceptances are given out Jan-March (especially mid-late March)


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mybluedog said:
In history somewhere, I’ve heard a person receive 6 SUCs or some ridiculous # and got accepted at the end.

Most acceptances are given out Jan-March (especially mid-late March)


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I had 5 SUCs before being accepted a long, long time ago. You can be accepted, rejected, SUC’d at any meeting. You never know what may or may not happen. Check prior threads for information about prior years information.

I documented my experience on mdapplicants.

BABSstudent profile - MDApplicants.com


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precisiongraphic said:
UW has the strangest acceptance/rejection standards. I'm just an observer but have been watching since 2014-2015 and I don't understand their rejection of qualified, in-state applicants.

Hang in there.
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Welcome to the joys of 5 states sharing a single medical school. Luckily the new school helps Washington residents out, but I suspect that Washington is still a net exporter of applicants.
 
My friend got accepted as OOR, interviewed early November. Average stats, but experiences matched the school mission really well.
 
mybluedog said:
From my experience, about 50-70% of the class receives a SUC. It varies how many SUCs you receive. I think in my first cycle I had three SUCs which resulted in a 40ish waitlist #/rejection. In my last cycle, I had one/two SUCs and was top 3 on the waitlist.

I know the wait is a killer. Just remind yourself a SUC could mean your Excom member was busy and couldn’t attend the meeting or your file wasn’t discussed or they want to see more applicants.


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Wow, thank you so much for that insightful response! I feel a bit better now. I think I speak for everybody when I say thank you for revisiting this post even after acceptance to dole out helpful advice!
 
Sagebrush said:
Welcome to the joys of 5 states sharing a single medical school. Luckily the new school helps Washington residents out, but I suspect that Washington is still a net exporter of applicants.
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No, not welcome. I've already watched IS people I know apply for years now. Besides the fact that UW has to be for WWAMI, they just turn down a lot of really qualified people who get accepted OOS.
 
Any Wyoming II's yet? I was supposed to hear something back 2 weeks ago. I know they schedule interviews a few weeks out, and Wyoming's interviews are scheduled for February, so maybe that's why I haven't heard anything? I've been accepted to two other schools already, so I just find it odd I haven't heard anything from my region's school...
I was complete 9/7
 
precisiongraphic said:
No, not welcome. I've already watched IS people I know apply for years now. Besides the fact that UW has to be for WWAMI, they just turn down a lot of really qualified people who get accepted OOS.
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I’d just like to say many people in my class are reapplicants. Also, reapplication doesn’t mean you aren’t up to par compared to those that get in on their first try. There’s a person in my class that is a third time applicant and top of the class. Persistence is key! Hang in there!
 
Anyone else still hurting from post interview rejection.. was feeling optimistic too 🙁
trying to stay positive.
 
mybluedog said:
I’d just like to say many people in my class are reapplicants. Also, reapplication doesn’t mean you aren’t up to par compared to those that get in on their first try. There’s a person in my class that is a third time applicant and top of the class. Persistence is key! Hang in there!
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Thanks - like I said, I'm just an observer not an applicant. I've been reading since @BABSstudent was an M1.
 
Everyone who got the “still under consideration” get the same email?
Mine said they reviewed my application and interview results but a decision hasn’t been made.
 
Waves3 said:
Anyone else still hurting from post interview rejection.. was feeling optimistic too 🙁
trying to stay positive.
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I was rejected post interview last year, and yes, I am STILL hurting from that... How can rejection NOT hurt or feel personal? I would try to just keep your head up, and know that this particular set of circumstances in this particular moment in time that led to that decision doesn't define you. You WILL have the opportunity to become a successful physician if you keep working at it. Doesn't matter when. That's what I keep telling myself, anyway..
 
mybluedog said:
I’d just like to say many people in my class are reapplicants. Also, reapplication doesn’t mean you aren’t up to par compared to those that get in on their first try. There’s a person in my class that is a third time applicant and top of the class. Persistence is key! Hang in there!
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Which begs the question how the long-standing admissions protocols frequently don’t translate into the most qualified individuals gaining an acceptance, not just once but multiple times. As someone who was rejected post interview last cycle despite feeling extremely confident I understand a lot of the confusion with the process. I applied TRUST and few of the applicants on interview day seemed to fit the mission of that program. My feedback session was cryptic and the few notes written by members of the panel stated things I know I never said and were used to justify subjective claims antithetical to who I am. UWs feedback was exactly contradictory to the other Washington program’s (which I fully agreed with and understood) I was waitlisted at. If this is a recurring theme perhaps the program needs to outsource some help. Like the CASPer. . . Oh wait, they are.
 
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iliketurtlesallthewaydown said:
Which begs the question how the long-standing admissions protocols frequently don’t translate into the most qualified individuals gaining an acceptance. Perhaps the program needs to outsource some help. Like the CASPer. . . Oh wait, they are.
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The first argument is making the assumption that said student would be the top of their class if admitted one of the first two times. This process isn't also dependent on the adcoms only, there are plenty of people who naively submit applications that are not ready to be submitted (i.e. there are various reasons aside from the adcom that could contribute to them not being accepted the first two times).

To the second point; they're trying to validate CASPer still so they technically aren't using it.

I'm not trying to argue, I think there is a lot of work that's been done on the admissions process and it's not as easy to discredit their entire process.
 
II! In state. Complete mid-October.

To those of you feeling deflated -- keep grinding. You have come so far and this process is insane. On to the next.
 
climbrunskirepeat said:
The first argument is making the assumption that said student would be the top of their class if admitted one of the first two times. This process isn't also dependent on the adcoms only, there are plenty of people who naively submit applications that are not ready to be submitted (i.e. there are various reasons aside from the adcom that could contribute to them not being accepted the first two times).

To the second point; they're trying to validate CASPer still so they technically aren't using it.

I'm not trying to argue, I think there is a lot of work that's been done on the admissions process and it's not as easy to discredit their entire process.
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Not arguing either or downplaying the inherent difficulty associated with selecting a cohort of the most ideal students.

The willingness to validate CASPer shows they acknowledge their own need for improvements. Why fix what isn’t broken? I wouldn’t be surprised if there is no correlation between acceptance and CASPer score as the process now stands.

UW is a great program and I would be honored to go there. I’m stating based on my own experience and extensive time spent speaking with applicants and students it appears many qualified applicants are sent packing out of state or needlessly put through the inconvenience of reapplying.
That’s a lot of “personal development” to not make the cut out of 120 students x 2 cycles only to be at the top of the class the third. . . However I’m sure the resilience that student had to Practice is a large factor for their success. It'd be nice to decrease that occurrence from the process so we can have better doctors two years sooner and doctors get to be doctors two more years of their lives. In a perfect world. . .
 
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iliketurtlesallthewaydown said:
Not arguing either or downplaying the inherent difficulty associated with selecting a cohort of the most ideal students.

The willingness to validate CASPer shows they acknowledge their own need for improvements. Why fix what isn’t broken? I wouldn’t be surprised if there is no correlation between acceptance and CASPer score as the process now stands.

UW is a great program and I would be honored to go there. I’m stating based on my own experience and extensive time spent speaking with applicants and students it appears many qualified applicants are sent packing out of state or needlessly put through the inconvenience of reapplying.
That’s a lot of “personal development” to not make the cut out of 120 students x 2 cycles only to be at the top of the class the third. . . However I’m sure the resilience that student had to Practice is a large factor for their success. It'd be nice to decrease that occurrence from the process so we can have better doctors two years sooner and doctors get to be doctors two more years of their lives. In a perfect world. . .
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Agreed - there is always room for improvement. Not getting in does mean NOT you are not worthy. Something didn't align and mistakes can be made - on either side. No one has this process down. Some programs are closer than others but there are so many variables. Yield protection occurs too which makes the picture more clear when you see high stats folks not getting in.

At least they are looking at personality in relation to CASPer scores. UW is already more holistic than many other schools.
 
iliketurtlesallthewaydown said:
Which begs the question how the long-standing admissions protocols frequently don’t translate into the most qualified individuals gaining an acceptance, not just once but multiple times. As someone who was rejected post interview last cycle despite feeling extremely confident I understand a lot of the confusion with the process. I applied TRUST and few of the applicants on interview day seemed to fit the mission of that program. My feedback session was cryptic and the few notes written by members of the panel stated things I know I never said and were used to justify subjective claims antithetical to who I am. UWs feedback was exactly contradictory to the other Washington program’s (which I fully agreed with and understood) I was waitlisted at. If this is a recurring theme perhaps the program needs to outsource some help. Like the CASPer. . . Oh wait, they are.
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Yeah, I don't think any school's admission process is perfect. UW's is often very frustrating. I've definitely found those who are re-applicants to be more thankful having a seat in our class. This is weird, but I kind of thought my experience being rejected my first cycle was a really good learning experience. I feel like as pre-meds we are always the best bunch in whatever group we are in and we are so type-A and perfectionists that we are not often faced with someone telling us "no". I feel like I've learned a lot about myself and my purpose after I got rejected. No matter if you are accepted, SUCed or rejected, we all have bright futures on this long and winding road.
 
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Agreed - there is always room for improvement. Not getting in does mean NOT you are not worthy. Something didn't align and mistakes can be made - on either side. No one has this process down. Some programs are closer than others but there are so many variables. Yield protection occurs too which makes the picture more clear when you see high stats folks not getting in.

At least they are looking at personality in relation to CASPer scores. UW is already more holistic than many other schools.
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My biggest issue is the lack of communication. So many people are just kind of vaguely waiting for some (any) kind of update or email from them whether it is post interview or trying to schedule one. I think the stress of the not knowing and then ultimate rejection is what really makes people disillusioned with the process.
 
schborke said:
My biggest issue is the lack of communication. So many people are just kind of vaguely waiting for some (any) kind of update or email from them whether it is post interview or trying to schedule one. I think the stress of the not knowing and then ultimate rejection is what really makes people disillusioned with the process.
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To be fair to UW, I have several MS2 friends who still haven't heard back from some schools that they applied to years ago... To take advantage of our money and efforts in this way to me just seems criminal - an automated rejection letter takes about one iota of effort. I think UW actually does a pretty good job of communicating with us when compared to other schools. That doesn't make that communication a dialogue.. but I, at least, feel less in the dark here than at other programs. Just in my own personal experience.
 
Empem28 said:
To be fair to UW, I have several MS2 friends who still haven't heard back from some schools that they applied to years ago... To take advantage of our money and efforts in this way to me just seems criminal - an automated rejection letter takes about one iota of effort. I think UW actually does a pretty good job of communicating with us when compared to other schools. That doesn't make that communication a dialogue.. but I, at least, feel less in the dark here than at other programs. Just in my own personal experience.
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The whole system of sending secondaries out automatically and charging some ambiguous amount of money is so shady. I think its initial purpose to learn more about an applicant before offering an interview was well-intentioned but now its just a shameless cash grab. At least UW's was affordable. But thanks for pointing that out I think I am just jaded towards the whole system at this point if you cant tell lol.
 
schborke said:
The whole system of sending secondaries out automatically and charging some ambiguous amount of money is so shady. I think its initial purpose to learn more about an applicant before offering an interview was well-intentioned but now its just a shameless cash grab. At least UW's was affordable. But thanks for pointing that out I think I am just jaded towards the whole system at this point if you cant tell lol.
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I completely empathize with that sentiment, it is easy to loath..
 
Red_matahari said:
Unfortunately they also screen WWAMI applicants before sending out secondaries.

Quoted from their admissions website, “Unlike many medical schools, the UWSOM does not send out secondary applications automatically, The admissions committee will screen applications to determine if a secondary application will be requested”
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Make sure you ask for feedback on your application from Dr. Muzquiz or the admission's office this Spring, so you can submit a better application next time, assuming you want/need to re-apply to UW.
 
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