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I was hoping if a CCLM or Case Western student could chime in on this question I have about the nature of the relationship between CCLM and Case:

If you are in CCLM but decide you don't want to spend 5 years in med school can you just join Case Western's University program and drop out of the college program at CCLM? I have a feeling the answer to this is no for a lot of reasons but I haven't really seen this spelled out online.

What is the nature of the relationship between case and CCLM? Do the students from the two schools interact? Are the places they study even near each other?

Thank you so much for taking the time to read these questions!!!
 
mrm2231 said:
I was hoping if a CCLM or Case Western student could chime in on this question I have about the nature of the relationship between CCLM and Case:

If you are in CCLM but decide you don't want to spend 5 years in med school can you just join Case Western's University program and drop out of the college program at CCLM? I have a feeling the answer to this is no for a lot of reasons but I haven't really seen this spelled out online.

What is the nature of the relationship between case and CCLM? Do the students from the two schools interact? Are the places they study even near each other?

Thank you so much for taking the time to read these questions!!!
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Incoming CCLCM student - hope I can help. So I’m not entirely sure if we can switch between the two programs, but I would say it’s a very likely no. The two programs are very different pre-clinically. CCLCM is very PBL focused with a heavy research component while Case is more lecture based with not nearly as much required research. Furthermore, each program has its own admissions process, administration, etc. so in reality it would be the equivalent of transferring between different med schools which neither program allows. Finally each program has a cap on the number of students which I imagine would make the process more difficult.

In terms of our interaction, starting this year we will be taking classes in the same building (the new HEC) but the classes will be separate. The building is designed in a way that promotes studying and collaboration, so there definitely will be opportunities for the two programs to study near/with each other. However, the curriculums are so different that they’ll likely be studying different things. As far as I know, there is a fair amount of interaction between CCLCM students and Case students. We can join the same clubs and take the same rotations. Some students actively seek out students in the other program just to make more friends that are different from those they have class with everyday.

If anyone has any questions about the program, admissions, etc feel free to ask me! I feel truly grateful to be attending this school. Hopefully over the course of the year I’ll be able to give some good insights to the program.
 
We were using Case for the CCLCM secondaries as well, but if anyone did NOT catch it - the CCLCM research essay has a hard 500 word limit. Secondary received, submitted and market complete 7/2
 
MemeLord said:
We were using Case for the CCLCM secondaries as well, but if anyone did NOT catch it - the CCLCM research essay has a hard 500 word limit. Secondary received, submitted and market complete 7/2
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+1
 
Curriculum is very different between programs. Interaction with the other program was minimal before the new building unless you actively sought it out. I imagine with everyone being in the same space now there will be a lot more opportunities to attend the same events and clubs as Case students
 
Does anyone know what the Research Essay means by "interpretation of your results with respect to future findings"? Does this just mean explain the significance of your results? The wording is throwing me off...how would I know future findings if they haven't been found yet? lol
 
cu2med said:
Does anyone know what the Research Essay means by "interpretation of your results with respect to future findings"? Does this just mean explain the significance of your results? The wording is throwing me off...how would I know future findings if they haven't been found yet? lol
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What did you find and how does that affect where you went or where you will go with this project.
 
Anyone else with a case western II waiting to see if cleveland clinic will give an II too? I'm thinking I'll bite the bullet and book if I hear nothing by Friday.
 
Enterococcus said:
Anyone else with a case western II waiting to see if cleveland clinic will give an II too? I'm thinking I'll bite the bullet and book if I hear nothing by Friday.
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I am, but I ended up choosing an interview date. It looks like it may take them up to mid-august to send their II?
 
thedivider said:
I am, but I ended up choosing an interview date. It looks like it may take them up to mid-august to send their II?
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I’m not at home (so I can’t check my spreadsheet), but I believe the first SDN Cleveland Clinic IIs came out this week (around 8/8).

I’m gonna hold off until the end of tomorrow before scheduling my interview date.
 
thedivider said:
I am, but I ended up choosing an interview date. It looks like it may take them up to mid-august to send their II?
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I received a II from CWRU, but in that portal, it gives you the option to apply to Cleveland Clinic Lerner. Isn't that the CCLCOM II? Or does CCLCOM send a completely separate secondary?
 
bowenaswims said:
I received a II from CWRU, but in that portal, it gives you the option to apply to Cleveland Clinic Lerner. Isn't that the CCLCOM II? Or does CCLCOM send a completely separate secondary?
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It's the same secondary portal but it has additional essays.
 
bowenaswims said:
I received a II from CWRU, but in that portal, it gives you the option to apply to Cleveland Clinic Lerner. Isn't that the CCLCOM II? Or does CCLCOM send a completely separate secondary?
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Are you saying a secondary or an interview? There is a programs tab in the beginning that asks whether you want to apply to CWU, CCLCOM, MD/PhD etc. You can pick only one program or all three. Based on what you choose, your essays become relevant.
 
texasvandy said:
Are you saying a secondary or an interview? There is a programs tab in the beginning that asks whether you want to apply to CWU, CCLCOM, MD/PhD etc. You can pick only one program or all three. Based on what you choose, your essays become relevant.
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No you can select both case and CCLCM. They have the same secondary/portal, different essays, different ADCOMS and different interviews
 
texasvandy said:
Are you saying a secondary or an interview? There is a programs tab in the beginning that asks whether you want to apply to CWU, CCLCOM, MD/PhD etc. You can pick only one program or all three. Based on what you choose, your essays become relevant.
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Just secondaries. I received the notice from CWRU to access the secondary portal. I only selected CCLCOM and then received confirmation once finished that CCLCOM got my secondary
 
Enterococcus said:
II 😀 (I'm only slightly salty that I emailed asking about my status like two weeks ago and never got a response)

But I can't find the scheduling page on iApply. All I see is my university program interview information. @mrwup do you have this problem too?
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Yeah I cant find it either! Probably not uupdated yet?
 
MemeLord said:
SDN causing these feelings of inadequacy even when I am successful. Not legit feelings as I fully understand the chaos of this process and recognize that the success of others has no inherent reflection on the quality of my application. Just...yah. Good job, y’all!
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Don't ask me how many times I have sat here and been like "look at all these people with 10+ interviews. why does my application suck so much" :'(
 
AmericanArthurDent said:
First R of the season out of the way, doesn't give me a ton of confidence for the university program. Congrats and best of luck to all those with IIs!
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pugpy_dawg said:
Wowwwww first R :dead: surprised because my app is suuuuper research focused! oh well. good luck to all with II's today!
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Don't be discouraged.. y'all are still doing great. It's a small program.
 
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