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ucpsych said:
Can any current students name apartments/areas that most of the med students tend to live in? I looked at housing in the area and it’s bleak.
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I'm not a current student but I live in the neighborhoods right in front of the campus. Not fancy but it's also perfectly safe from the past decade or so of me living there. Also have friends who live in the apartments just east and it's fine too. Essentially the further south and west you get from Campus the "nicer" it gets. I honestly laughed when I looked up the crime statistics for my neighborhood being above average because I've never had issues and I walk around outside all the time. You could always commute from Sylvania or Ottawa Hills if you're actually that worried but plenty of places right near campus are fine even if neighborhood scout shouts doom lol.
 
Kenonslybe said:
I'm not a current student but I live in the neighborhoods right in front of the campus. Not fancy but it's also perfectly safe from the past decade or so of me living there. Also have friends who live in the apartments just east and it's fine too. Essentially the further south and west you get from Campus the "nicer" it gets. I honestly laughed when I looked up the crime statistics for my neighborhood being above average because I've never had issues and I walk around outside all the time. You could always commute from Sylvania or Ottawa Hills if you're actually that worried but plenty of places right near campus are fine even if neighborhood scout shouts doom lol.
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Thank you so much for the insight!
 
I think it's important to note that I got my II on the 11th and others in this thread before me had stated there were no available dates to schedule. When I logged onto the portal there were 3 days available in February (I didn't look into March). This means that either people dropped their interviews, opening interview dates, or Toledo added dates before the 15th. Moral of the story, I recommend checking the portal for new dates before the 15th and 25th of each month.
 
Achnologiast said:
Do they send out II's on Monday and Thursdays?
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Don't know for sure but that seems to be the trend so far

Also, did anyone take notes during the 2 minute prompt portion of the MMI's and is it even allowed?
I've been looking at various videos and websites, and all have recommended restating a shortened version of the prompt to your interviewer, is this necessary?
 
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Congrats to all of you who've gotten IIs so far!

Keeping my fingers crossed for this Thursday...and the Monday after...and the Thursday after that...
 
ucpsych said:
Don't know for sure but that seems to be the trend so far

Also, did anyone take notes during the 2 minute prompt portion of the MMI's and is it even allowed?
I've been looking at various videos and websites, and all have recommended restating a shortened version of the prompt to your interviewer, is this necessary?
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Hey. Taking notes is allowed. However, I didn’t take any notes because the prompt was short and clear enough. I’ve seen those websites recommending restating the prompt but personally, I didn’t do it and I don’t think it’s necessary. When I said I’m ready to talk about the prompt, my interviewer asked “so what do you think about it” and I started with the answer.

Hope this help
Good luck on your interview.
 
Was blessed with an II today from Toledo! Sorry to debunk any Monday/Thursday theories. Gotta keep y'all on your toes! 🤣

Question for those who interviewed - should I/should I not be prepared to present a slideshow on my favorite wine & cheese assortments? Because as a die-hard fan of the Toledo SDN thread...I feel as though it is necessary!
 
homeskilletoast said:
Was blessed with an II today from Toledo! Sorry to debunk any Monday/Thursday theories. Gotta keep y'all on your toes! 🤣

Question for those who interviewed - should I/should I not be prepared to present a slideshow on my favorite wine & cheese assortments? Because as a die-hard fan of the Toledo SDN thread...I feel as though it is necessary!
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congrats!! when were you complete? IS/OOS?
 
Hey guys, current M1 here at UT. I just learned of what you guys are going through this year, and I can't believe it. I know it must suck to be anxious for that long, waiting on an II, and this may be a bad first impression of UT to you. I know I would be hesitant of attending if I were in your shoes, and that's only logical.

But I gotta say, I was shocked especially because the administrative faculty leaders are some of the most caring and compassionate people that I have had the privilege of knowing. So this was definitely out of character from the image I had of the UT higher ups. If this weren't true, I wouldn't have felt compelled to write something this long. For example, today we were supposed to come to campus for an anatomy practical, but since it is snowing too heavily at Toledo, it had to be cancelled. The leadership not only was flexible enough to work together to find a very great solution last minute and communicated to the class in a wholesome way, they also made sure to listen to the hurriedly compiled input of the students. So we do have a say in the curriculum and they do listen to feedback. I'm sure almost all UT students can agree that Dr. Matus (who is our assistant dean of medical education) cares for us.

Groupme chat is always hilariously popping off during mandatory sessions (which are fortunately quite rare, allowing for flexibility in our schedules), bantering while still respecting and praising the leadership. I feel that there is a sense of trust and camaraderie, not only within the student body, but also between the students and the faculty. The faculty just seem like reasonable, genuine people who are just doing their best to fulfill their duty of delivering a great medical education for us.

Personally, I've reached out to the dean of student affairs, PhDs, librarians, physicians, IRB committee, upperclassmen, and alumni for help with projects, research, advice, etc. and they've all been very helpful and I can sense a genuineness to help from them, some even sharing my excitement for a project I proposed.

Also I want to point something out. If anyone is thinking your goals might be impossible if you attend a "low-tier" school like UT, don't worry, as someone trying for a competitive specialty, I was in your shoes as well this time last year. To give you the real truth, the difference of difficulty of getting into a competitive specialty from a top 10 MD vs top 100 MD is much much smaller than the difference of difficulty of getting into a competitive specialty from a top 100 MD vs a DO school. Doesn't mean my DO colleagues can't achieve their goals, but in the system we're currently living in, it's extremely harder for a DO.

To elaborate, I've seen people match at top 10 places for competitive specialties every year. Very recently, an M4 matched at Uni of Iowa for ophthalmology, a top 5 program! Every year, we get people going to places like UMich, Cleveland Clinic, Mayo, Pitt, which are giants in almost every specialty. Looking at where alumni end up, I see people matching IR, vascular surgery, dermatology, plastic surgery, neurosurgery, ortho (so many ortho bros every year), which are the tip top most competitive specialties. So the factor isn't primarily the school you attend, it's on you to pull your weight. If there aren't resources for you to do so, create it yourself! Show some initiative and that can be a project you can take pride of! You'll definitely have faculty who you can bounce ideas off and support you.

Can you get the same experience in other places? Definitely! All this isn't unique to UT, but I want to make sure that you guys know that UT is great so far for me. I'm enjoying it. I feel supported (even in the midst of a pandemic). I'm confident I can achieve my goals here. So give UT some reasonable doubt and I hope to get the pleasure of meeting some of you next year!

If I can help in any other way, if you have any other questions abt MMIs/UT/opportunities here, feel free to DM me. We're getting a 4-day weekend so I got time to kill.

Also, tbh, I was inspired to check out UT's SDN page to see how the incoming class is doing after reading this post on reddit: . I was just thinking of how fortunate I was to not be a student in that school.
 
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ucpsych said:
Don't know for sure but that seems to be the trend so far

Also, did anyone take notes during the 2 minute prompt portion of the MMI's and is it even allowed?
I've been looking at various videos and websites, and all have recommended restating a shortened version of the prompt to your interviewer, is this necessary?
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Yes, taking notes is allowed. I personally took notes because it helped with organizing my thoughts and answers. On the other hand, I didn't think restating the prompt was necessary. However, you should practice MMI questions and figure out which strategy works for you.
 
While I pulled my application from here, I did have an MMI and got into that school, so I just wanted to give tips if it helps anyone.

1) Think of a response while reading the prompt. Obviously if you don't know the question yet you can't answer it, but you can start reacting to the situation while reading it. What is happening? How does it make you feel? How might it make other patients or health workers feel? How would you respond? Then when you get to the question, you've usually already answered it internally. And if not, you can usually still use those three questions to guide your answer.

2) Just start when the timer starts! Don't rehash the situation at the beginning. You can incorporate it into your answer to show understanding, but don't start with a summary of what is happening. That wastes time.

3) Be concise. This is really hard when under pressure, but try to answer the question (if possible) in two sentences, one sentence saying your response, and another explaining why you chose that response. You can expand a bit from there, but try your hardest to use as little time as possible unless you really have to use more. Some situations might require you to roleplay, and even then you can apply this method.

4) Leave room for your interviewer's response. Sometimes there are follow-up questions or they might ask you why you chose to do what you did.

I would give fake examples but I'm scared an adcom will find me and rescind my offer lmao
 
Latteandaprayer said:
While I pulled my application from here, I did have an MMI and got into that school, so I just wanted to give tips if it helps anyone.

1) Think of a response while reading the prompt. Obviously if you don't know the question yet you can't answer it, but you can start reacting to the situation while reading it. What is happening? How does it make you feel? How might it make other patients or health workers feel? How would you respond? Then when you get to the question, you've usually already answered it internally. And if not, you can usually still use those three questions to guide your answer.

2) Just start when the timer starts! Don't rehash the situation at the beginning. You can incorporate it into your answer to show understanding, but don't start with a summary of what is happening. That wastes time.

3) Be concise. This is really hard when under pressure, but try to answer the question (if possible) in two sentences, one sentence saying your response, and another explaining why you chose that response. You can expand a bit from there, but try your hardest to use as little time as possible unless you really have to use more. Some situations might require you to roleplay, and even then you can apply this method.

4) Leave room for your interviewer's response. Sometimes there are follow-up questions or they might ask you why you chose to do what you did.

I would give fake examples but I'm scared an adcom will find me and rescind my offer lmao
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Hey, thanks for this advice! Did you ever mention the extreme scenarios and why you didn’t choose them? Or just how you personally would go about the situation?
 
ucpsych said:
Hey, thanks for this advice! Did you ever mention the extreme scenarios and why you didn’t choose them? Or just how you personally would go about the situation?
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Nope! Just what I would do. If they ask about an extreme scenario then answer it accordingly. No time to bring up alternatives.
 
spiritcat13 said:
I'm just revisiting this thread and getting caught up. So not always M/Th for II's but some come outside of that? Have they sent out another wave of R's?
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They are inconsistently dropping Rs/IIs I think. We thought monday/thursday were II days but someone received an II on a tues/wed so we can safely assume that Toledo will send out IIs/Rs whenever they want haha
 
There have been two 'waves' of Rs (both on Mondays, if I recall? Not sure if anyone got one outside of that.) IIs are anyone's guess! Toledo is unpredictable. Gonna keep refreshing that email....
 
I went to a diversity meet & greet last night and I got the impression that all of the students love it there. I know students will be somewhat biased for their school unintentionally but the support for BIPOC and just in general seems really apparent.. the vibe was way different from most of the schools I’ve interviewed at, in a good way.
 
Interviewed today. There were a few technical difficulties which threw me off my game for one of my interviews but overall it went really well. I didn’t feel as though I was overly challenged to defend my answers. They just asked questions that helped me expand on my answers. Honestly not as stressful as I was building up in my head and none of my interviewers were “stress interviewers” and they were all very kind and conversational. Prepare for ethical, scenario, and even personal questions.

Also, for decisions they said within a few weeks. I know past years had a 2-3 month wait time so we’ll see. Good luck to everyone else interviewing/waiting for II’s!
 
dllsl7 said:
Hey guys, current M1 here at UT. I just learned of what you guys are going through this year, and I can't believe it. I know it must suck to be anxious for that long, waiting on an II, and this may be a bad first impression of UT to you. I know I would be hesitant of attending if I were in your shoes, and that's only logical.

But I gotta say, I was shocked especially because the administrative faculty leaders are some of the most caring and compassionate people that I have had the privilege of knowing. So this was definitely out of character from the image I had of the UT higher ups. If this weren't true, I wouldn't have felt compelled to write something this long. For example, today we were supposed to come to campus for an anatomy practical, but since it is snowing too heavily at Toledo, it had to be cancelled. The leadership not only was flexible enough to work together to find a very great solution last minute and communicated to the class in a wholesome way, they also made sure to listen to the hurriedly compiled input of the students. So we do have a say in the curriculum and they do listen to feedback. I'm sure almost all UT students can agree that Dr. Matus (who is our assistant dean of medical education) cares for us.

Groupme chat is always hilariously popping off during mandatory sessions (which are fortunately quite rare, allowing for flexibility in our schedules), bantering while still respecting and praising the leadership. I feel that there is a sense of trust and camaraderie, not only within the student body, but also between the students and the faculty. The faculty just seem like reasonable, genuine people who are just doing their best to fulfill their duty of delivering a great medical education for us.

Personally, I've reached out to the dean of student affairs, PhDs, librarians, physicians, IRB committee, upperclassmen, and alumni for help with projects, research, advice, etc. and they've all been very helpful and I can sense a genuineness to help from them, some even sharing my excitement for a project I proposed.

Also I want to point something out. If anyone is thinking your goals might be impossible if you attend a "low-tier" school like UT, don't worry, as someone trying for a competitive specialty, I was in your shoes as well this time last year. To give you the real truth, the difference of difficulty of getting into a competitive specialty from a top 10 MD vs top 100 MD is much much smaller than the difference of difficulty of getting into a competitive specialty from a top 100 MD vs a DO school. Doesn't mean my DO colleagues can't achieve their goals, but in the system we're currently living in, it's extremely harder for a DO.

To elaborate, I've seen people match at top 10 places for competitive specialties every year. Very recently, an M4 matched at Uni of Iowa for ophthalmology, a top 5 program! Every year, we get people going to places like UMich, Cleveland Clinic, Mayo, Pitt, which are giants in almost every specialty. Looking at where alumni end up, I see people matching IR, vascular surgery, dermatology, plastic surgery, neurosurgery, ortho (so many ortho bros every year), which are the tip top most competitive specialties. So the factor isn't primarily the school you attend, it's on you to pull your weight. If there aren't resources for you to do so, create it yourself! Show some initiative and that can be a project you can take pride of! You'll definitely have faculty who you can bounce ideas off and support you.

Can you get the same experience in other places? Definitely! All this isn't unique to UT, but I want to make sure that you guys know that UT is great so far for me. I'm enjoying it. I feel supported (even in the midst of a pandemic). I'm confident I can achieve my goals here. So give UT some reasonable doubt and I hope to get the pleasure of meeting some of you next year!

If I can help in any other way, if you have any other questions abt MMIs/UT/opportunities here, feel free to DM me. We're getting a 4-day weekend so I got time to kill.

Also, tbh, I was inspired to check out UT's SDN page to see how the incoming class is doing after reading this post on reddit: . I was just thinking of how fortunate I was to not be a student in that school.
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COMPLETELY agree - bias aside, this is a great medical school and UTCOM punches above their weight when it comes to residency (getting more competitive spots with lower scores). Dr. Matus is probably the best human being you will ever meet too.
 
How many people do they usually interview and how many get accepted ?
 
Hi all! I have been watching this thread for a while now, but never commented. Anyhow, I just got an II today; strong IS ties (I grew up in Toledo and am getting my undergrad at UT as well); completed Nov 4; interview scheduled for early March. This is my first II of the cycle and I am very excited!
 
Achnologiast said:
Is this for this year's cycle so far? Or last year stats?
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I believe this was for last year. But I don't think the percentages will significantly vary year to year and provides a good starting point to gauge how likely you're gna be accepted post interview, and even how likely you'll get an II
 
dllsl7 said:
I believe this was for last year. But I don't think the percentages will significantly vary year to year and provides a good starting point to gauge how likely you're gna be accepted post interview, and even how likely you'll get an II
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And is the data obtained from MSAR or self-reported/some other means?
 
I think it comes from the USWN Report. It's from the front page and the user who opens these discussion threads every year posts it. I think it's pretty accurate from the schools I've been to and interviewed at.
 
I am planning to send an interest letter pre II and basically wanted to incorporate my why Toledo answer into the letter along with updates. Would this be a good idea as I would be pointing specific things that hold my interest. I doubt they’ll ask it in an MMI, so atleast this way I can let them know in a different way. I guess if it is asked in a station I could just repeat the answer, but his may not look to good.
 
Wondering if it’s worth it to send pre-II updates or is it still too early?
 
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