2022-2023 UT Southwestern (UTSW)

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wysdoc said:
Ooh, I had not heard this. It will probably result in UTSW being a little more cautious with prematch offers to arrive at the 230 class size by the end of the spring.
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Yep, they will admit fewer IS upfront assuming a higher yield rather than lower. I believe A&M admitted fewer people for 2022 class because they pushed out a bunch from 2021. Since UTSW didnt offer deferrals, they will just control 2023 admissions.

There will be an additional problem this year that more people who dont want to take a chance of ending up in Temple campus will choose UTSW during match.
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Is anyone else interviewing here on Saturday? They said they would let us know your interviewers and slots 72-48 hours before our interview date, but its already less than 48 hours and I haven't heard anything. I also haven't recieved the zoom link that they said they would be sending. Thanks!
 
cluelesscarl said:
Is anyone else interviewing here on Saturday? They said they would let us know your interviewers and slots 72-48 hours before our interview date, but its already less than 48 hours and I haven't heard anything. I also haven't recieved the zoom link that they said they would be sending. Thanks!
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They are not going to send out Zoom links 3 days in advance. As long as you know what time to log in on Saturday, you’ll be fine.
Pick out your outfit, practice your 1 minute “ tell me about yourself “ blurb in the mirror, and good luck on your interview!
 
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cluelesscarl said:
Is anyone else interviewing here on Saturday? They said they would let us know your interviewers and slots 72-48 hours before our interview date, but its already less than 48 hours and I haven't heard anything. I also haven't recieved the zoom link that they said they would be sending. Thanks!
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They no longer have a full day of events on Friday? I guess they were all considered tours?
 
texasvandy said:
They no longer have a full day of events on Friday? I guess they were all considered tours?
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The Friday part used to include a hospital tour and going on rounds, then social dinner with current students, and interview day Saturday.
Now UTSW has to make a snap judgement on you, on Zoom.
The times they are a-changing, @texasvandy!
 
Does UTSW have a traditional interview? Haven’t heard anything about MMI
 
raava said:
Does UTSW have a traditional interview? Haven’t heard anything about MMI
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Whenever you get an interview invitation, go visit the schools's site. Looking at the site will inform you, and may give you ideas about questions you have for the school as well.

UTSW says "Interview invitations are sent by email to applicants beginning in mid-July. Invitations for interviews are typically sent at least three weeks before the assigned interview date. All candidates will have two back-to-back interviews with UT Southwestern faculty members in a standard interview format. All interviews for the 2022-2023 class will be conducted virtually. If invited to interview, you will receive an email from the Admissions Office. Interviews are by invitation only and take place from August through mid-January."

Also, in the first post of each school's thread, there is a link to interview feedback from past years and you can see what others have said.
 
wysdoc said:
Whenever you get an interview invitation, go visit the schools's site. Looking at the site will inform you, and may give you ideas about questions you have for the school as well.

UTSW says "Interview invitations are sent by email to applicants beginning in mid-July. Invitations for interviews are typically sent at least three weeks before the assigned interview date. All candidates will have two back-to-back interviews with UT Southwestern faculty members in a standard interview format. All interviews for the 2022-2023 class will be conducted virtually. If invited to interview, you will receive an email from the Admissions Office. Interviews are by invitation only and take place from August through mid-January."

Also, in the first post of each school's thread, there is a link to interview feedback from past years and you can see what others have said.
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I wasn’t able to find whether it’s closed-file or open-file from the site; do you or anyone else have any insight?
 
Is UTSW from AMCAS or TMDSAS? If it’s from TMDAS, is it worth it start the whole other application now?
 
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pre-spring said:
Is UTSW from AMCAS or TMDSAS? If it’s from TMDAS, is it worth it start the whole other application now?
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All Texas MDs are on TMDSAS (other than TCU?). MD/PhD for all of them are on AMCAS.

Are you instate or out of state? What are your stats.
 
texasvandy said:
All Texas MDs are on TMDSAS (other than TCU?). MD/PhD for all of them are on AMCAS.

Are you instate or out of state? What are your stats.
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Out of State, but have a lot of family in Texas and a couple of them actually working in UTSW and others. 517 MCAT and 3.8 gpa.
 
pre-spring said:
Out of State, but have a lot of family in Texas and a couple of them actually working in UTSW and others. 517 MCAT and 3.8 gpa.
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Kind of hard for OOS unless they have really high stats unless they have something else going on for them in the app. They can only accept 23 OOS students and so they don't interview a lot of people. Those picked seem to have high stats based on the past threads.

If you are going to open an app on TMDSAS, you should probably apply to other schools also in Texas just to make full use of all the work you will be putting in.
 
Anyone interview here recently and wanna give an overview of what it was like? Like what's the general vibe lol
 
Has anyone that received an II so far, particularly the 73-75 LM range, have a lot of research/ pubs? I haven’t received an II from UTSW and I know my 350 hours of research (no papers, posters, etc.) is definitely a big drawback. However, UTSW is my no. 1 choice as im from dfw, so im holding out hope. Ive received plenty of other IIs with good feedback and none of which have really asked about my research, so I know the rest of my app should be solid. So I wonder if the emphasis on undergrad research is really heavy with utsw, and that may be holding me back from an II.
 
WAMCthrowaway said:
Has anyone that received an II so far, particularly the 73-75 LM range, have a lot of research/ pubs? I haven’t received an II from UTSW and I know my 350 hours of research (no papers, posters, etc.) is definitely a big drawback. However, UTSW is my no. 1 choice as im from dfw, so im holding out hope. Ive received plenty of other IIs with good feedback and none of which have really asked about my research, so I know the rest of my app should be solid. So I wonder if the emphasis on undergrad research is really heavy with utsw, and that may be holding me back from an II.
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I received an II about 2-3 weeks after applying and I have no research. LM 75, ORM, IS. Not really sure what makes them pull the trigger on early II.
 
WAMCthrowaway said:
Has anyone that received an II so far, particularly the 73-75 LM range, have a lot of research/ pubs? I haven’t received an II from UTSW and I know my 350 hours of research (no papers, posters, etc.) is definitely a big drawback. However, UTSW is my no. 1 choice as im from dfw, so im holding out hope. Ive received plenty of other IIs with good feedback and none of which have really asked about my research, so I know the rest of my app should be solid. So I wonder if the emphasis on undergrad research is really heavy with utsw, and that may be holding me back from an II.
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You will get your interview.
 
texasvandy said:
You will get your interview.
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Where’s my II? Why don’t they love me, man?
 
WAMCthrowaway said:
Has anyone that received an II so far, particularly the 73-75 LM range, have a lot of research/ pubs? I haven’t received an II from UTSW and I know my 350 hours of research (no papers, posters, etc.) is definitely a big drawback. However, UTSW is my no. 1 choice as im from dfw, so im holding out hope. Ive received plenty of other IIs with good feedback and none of which have really asked about my research, so I know the rest of my app should be solid. So I wonder if the emphasis on undergrad research is really heavy with utsw, and that may be holding me back from an II.
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I think it's coming. I feel like UTSW looks for really high stats early, but can afford to be picky in a certain range. So a 73 LM might need to have a lot more research, or something else about their app that stands out. In the end, none of us really know anything haha. UTSW has a system that's been working for them long before our app cycle, and they're likely just sticking to the script.

I do have to ask, are you URM, ORM, younger applicant, or older non-trad? UTSW and Baylor seem to accept very few applicants aged 30+. I'd think a 73 LM with some research under the age of 30 will get an interview at some point for sure. URM would help even more.
 
skeptastic said:
I think it's coming. I feel like UTSW looks for really high stats early, but can afford to be picky in a certain range. So a 73 LM might need to have a lot more research, or something else about their app that stands out. In the end, none of us really know anything haha. UTSW has a system that's been working for them long before our app cycle, and they're likely just sticking to the script.

I do have to ask, are you URM, ORM, younger applicant, or older non-trad? UTSW and Baylor seem to accept very few applicants aged 30+. I'd think a 73 LM with some research under the age of 30 will get an interview at some point for sure. URM would help even more.
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21 orm
 
jademoon said:
This week my friend received an II with a 3.6x cgpa/ 3.5x sgpa, 511 MCAT, ORM, IS !! Just some hope for all the average stat folks out there 🙂
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I almost jumped out of my seat at work, this is almost my exact profile
 
islandlarry said:
I almost jumped out of my seat at work, this is almost my exact profile
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Rooting for you to get an II !! My friend was really surprised ! They haven't heard back from any other MD or DO school this cycle 😳. Wonder what these medical schools look for in applicants 🤔
 
Just want to put it out there that there are people who fake interviews and there are people who show up at colleges claiming to be studying there to keep their parents in the dark.
 
There are definitely people here with "relatively" lower MCATs <515. It's a pretty diverse school in terms of background, so there may be different things that catch adcoms eyes.
 
Flopfodder said:
There are definitely people here with "relatively" lower MCATs <515. It's a pretty diverse school in terms of background, so there may be different things that catch adcoms eyes.
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3.6x cgpa/ 3.5x sgpa, 511 MCAT

Do you know any ORMs with these numbers at UTSW?

I can see someone being given a II because they identify as American Indian instead of Indian American.
 
TFW you try to share your friend's good news to give more insight into how average stat applicants may be viewed at UTSW and all you get is doubt 😒 (this is a joke I completely understand where the doubt is coming from 😗)

In all seriousness though, my friend has extensive research experience, LORs from well known researchers in the state, and grew up low SES. Their story and experiences are a great fit for the UTSW mission and the Dallas area (at least from what I've seen). Although it is evident from data sources like MSAR that average stat ORM folks are seldom seen at UTSW, I highly doubt that it is an impossibility (actually, I know its not an impossibility because I was sitting with my friend when they scheduled their interview 😉).

At the end of the day, an II does not equate an acceptance by any means. Although I'm nothing close to an adcom, I'm sure that all applications undergo a comprehensive re-review after the interview stage before acceptances are sent out. During that re-review, I'm going to make an educated guess and say that they further trim their potential accepted students by once again looking at stats (but now in the context of the interview). The accepted pool of students will ultimately be left for adcoms to build based on the attributes and mission they want UTSW to uphold (and if their focus is maintain high stat averages, I wouldn't put it past them to cut average and low stat applicants out of the mix even if they perform well at the interview stage).

People are free to believe what they want; after all, most of us are anonymous profiles on the internet with no way to prove credibility. However, for those of you who want to believe that mission fit matters even for stat power houses like UTSW, I'm just here to share a data point of optimism 🙂
 
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jademoon said:
TFW you try to share your friend's good news to give more insight into how average stat applicants may be viewed at UTSW and all you get is doubt 😒 (this is a joke I completely understand where the doubt is coming from 😗)

In all seriousness though, my friend has extensive research experience, LORs from well known researchers in the state, and grew up low SES. Their story and experiences are a great fit for the UTSW mission and the Dallas area (at least from what I've seen). Although it is evident from data sources like MSAR that average stat ORM folks are seldom seen at UTSW, I highly doubt that it is an impossibility (actually, I know its not an impossibility because I was sitting with my friend when they scheduled their interview 😉).

At the end of the day, an II does not equate an acceptance by any means. Although I'm nothing close to an adcom, I'm sure that all applications undergo a comprehensive re-review after the interview stage before acceptances are sent out. During that re-review, I'm going to make an educated guess and say that they further trim their potential accepted students by once again looking at stats (but now in the context of the interview). The acceptance pool of students will ultimately be left for adcoms to build based on the attributes and mission they want UTSW to uphold (and if their focus is maintain high stat averages, I wouldn't put it past them to cut average and low stat applicants out of the mix even if they perform well at the interview stage).

People are free to believe what they want; after all, most of us are anonymous profiles on the internet with no way to prove credibility. However, for those of you who want to believe that mission fit matters even for stat power houses like UTSW, I'm just here to share a data point of optimism 🙂
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For what it's worth, I believe you. I noticed the UTSW thread in particular is more toxic than the rest this app cycle lol. Some of y'all's attitudes are not cute!
 
Monstera_deliciosa said:
For what it's worth, I believe you. I noticed the UTSW thread in particular is more toxic than the rest this app cycle lol. Some of y'all's attitudes are not cute!
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I agree with some of the attitudes not being cute, but its a stressful time of the year for a lot of folks so I empathize with where they're coming from 😢. I don't mind if people don't believe me ! I know I'm telling the truth and it is up to the discretion of others whether they want to believe me or not 😉. Regardless, I appreciate your positivity <3
 
jademoon said:
TFW you try to share your friend's good news to give more insight into how average stat applicants may be viewed at UTSW and all you get is doubt 😒 (this is a joke I completely understand where the doubt is coming from 😗)

In all seriousness though, my friend has extensive research experience, LORs from well known researchers in the state, and grew up low SES. Their story and experiences are a great fit for the UTSW mission and the Dallas area (at least from what I've seen). Although it is evident from data sources like MSAR that average stat ORM folks are seldom seen at UTSW, I highly doubt that it is an impossibility (actually, I know its not an impossibility because I was sitting with my friend when they scheduled their interview 😉).

At the end of the day, an II does not equate an acceptance by any means. Although I'm nothing close to an adcom, I'm sure that all applications undergo a comprehensive re-review after the interview stage before acceptances are sent out. During that re-review, I'm going to make an educated guess and say that they further trim their potential accepted students by once again looking at stats (but now in the context of the interview). The accepted pool of students will ultimately be left for adcoms to build based on the attributes and mission they want UTSW to uphold (and if their focus is maintain high stat averages, I wouldn't put it past them to cut average and low stat applicants out of the mix even if they perform well at the interview stage).

People are free to believe what they want; after all, most of us are anonymous profiles on the internet with no way to prove credibility. However, for those of you who want to believe that mission fit matters even for stat power houses like UTSW, I'm just here to share a data point of optimism 🙂
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UTSW is still in Group 1 mode and they are not picking ORMs with those stats.

They do also fulfill other institutional needs for which people get called early.

www.utsouthwestern.edu

Class Profile & Statistics

Statistics and demographics of the latest entering class of UT Southwestern medical students include average GPA, MCAT average, and more.
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if you read through you will notice what they try to highlight in their demographics - 12.2% first generation students. You did not highlight the fact that your friend did extensive research or low income SES but instead you said 3.6 GPA and 511 and ORM. Those two factors dont get ORMs into most medical schools in Texas. UTSW is highlighting first gen which means they want to see more people who fall under this category get a fair shot. Not all schools in Texas do this but at least UTSW is making an effort.
 
texasvandy said:
UTSW is still in Group 1 mode and they are not picking ORMs with those stats.

They do also fulfill other institutional needs for which people get called early.

www.utsouthwestern.edu

Class Profile & Statistics

Statistics and demographics of the latest entering class of UT Southwestern medical students include average GPA, MCAT average, and more.
www.utsouthwestern.edu

if you read through you will notice what they try to highlight in their demographics - 12.2% first generation students. You did not highlight the fact that your friend did extensive research or low income SES but instead you said 3.6 GPA and 511 and ORM. Those two factors dont get ORMs into most medical schools in Texas. UTSW is highlighting first gen which means they want to see more people who fall under this category get a fair shot. Not all schools in Texas do this but at least UTSW is making an effort.
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Good to know ! 😊 My friend is not first generation, but I agree that the context of their life and experiences changes their appeal to UTSW. That's why I added my additional post about mission fit and their skillset in order to give the thread more context. Glad that UTSW is making an effort to support these student populations during their application process.
 
texasvandy said:
UTSW is still in Group 1 mode and they are not picking ORMs with those stats.

They do also fulfill other institutional needs for which people get called early.

www.utsouthwestern.edu

Class Profile & Statistics

Statistics and demographics of the latest entering class of UT Southwestern medical students include average GPA, MCAT average, and more.
www.utsouthwestern.edu

if you read through you will notice what they try to highlight in their demographics - 12.2% first generation students. You did not highlight the fact that your friend did extensive research or low income SES but instead you said 3.6 GPA and 511 and ORM. Those two factors dont get ORMs into most medical schools in Texas. UTSW is highlighting first gen which means they want to see more people who fall under this category get a fair shot. Not all schools in Texas do this but at least UTSW is making an effort.
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On a side note, does anyone else notice that the %s don’t add up to 100%? Plus, by the way the graph is setup, it almost seems like multiracial is URM. Is that true? I appreciate any insight!
 
@jademoon The first gen category is meant to show that people grew up poor because their parents didn't have enough education and thus are at a disadvantage. I wouldn't be surprised if low SES is included in that same indicator (we have to remember JAMP is primarily low SES and all Texas schools are admitting them). JAMP people are also interviewed first among all applicants, at least at UTSW and probably everywhere else since they decide all admissions for JAMP as of October 15th.

@wsian - I would add 25.7 + 43.4 + 27 + 2.5 that gets to 98.6. They are trying to see if you know what that number means. 🙂
 
Had a fantastic interview day last week, sorry for the lateness I finally decided to sign up for sdn lol. They really did take the time to tell us about the school and the students seemed to really love it. My first interview was a little more conversational and I felt like they were trying to get to know me. The second one seemed a little more suspicious, seemed like they were kind of fact checking my app and seeing if I would slip up (to be fair my activities are pretty random) overall it was a really cool experience and I would chill out about this interview. Just know your app well and your motivations and it’ll be fine
 
sopranodwarf said:
Do y'all think there was a high stats screen for the earlier IIs? I'm just below the median mcat & gpa, submitted super early, and research heavy. Really hoping to hear back at some point!
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They send IIs up to first week of January so they'll get to you soon hopefully!
 
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