2009-2010 Johns Hopkins Application Thread

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doctor2014 said:
Who is your source???? 😕 I interviewed 10/22... any predictions? 😀
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Someone from 10/22 was already accepted, and I think the consensus is that the 10/15 and 10/22 acceptees were called on Monday. But there's really no way we can know.

I know at least my application (10/16) is being reviewed by the committee on Tuesday, so maybe that's when 10/16 and 10/23 are being reviewed. Who knows?
 
JasonE said:
the admisions office. doesnt look so good for you. same here. sorry
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If they said early mid October does that include the 22nd? I would consider that late October.

ksmi117 said:
Someone from 10/22 was already accepted, and I think the consensus is that the 10/15 and 10/22 acceptees were called on Monday. But there's really no way we can know.

I know at least my application (10/16) is being reviewed by the committee on Tuesday, so maybe that's when 10/16 and 10/23 are being reviewed. Who knows?
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Yea... maybe i will call and find out.
 
pre interview rejection. byebye jhu. ill apply again for residency!
 
I've been complete for a while, but no news, whereas some others have been rejected. Perhaps there's a "maybe" group?
 
SpaceDementia said:
I've been complete for a while, but no news, whereas some others have been rejected. Perhaps there's a "maybe" group?
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I've been complete for over two months now, and I would think it's pretty unlikely for them to not have even glanced at my application. It's good that they didn't reject me outright, although I can't imagine my chances being particularly good at this time.

Doesn't look like there have been many invites going out recently.. :xf:
 
NotSur said:
has anyone from the 10/15 or 10/22 dates received a rejection or waitlist letter?
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i interviewed on the 8th, and i haven't gotten a call or a letter. i'm sure the mail's just slow. i can't imagine they accepted the 15th and 22nd but just forgot about us on the 8th.
 
BYU premed said:
i interviewed on the 8th, and i haven't gotten a call or a letter. i'm sure the mail's just slow. i can't imagine they accepted the 15th and 22nd but just forgot about us on the 8th.
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letters went out tuesday
 
NotSur said:
it's official. waitlisted. byebye hopkins thread. let's see what else this application season has in store for me!
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Sorry to hear that... guess i'll check my mailbox tomorrow. What day did you interview? Did you get a letter in the mail today?
 
NotSur said:
it's official. waitlisted. byebye hopkins thread. let's see what else this application season has in store for me!
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its okay, you're still going to get in awesome places. Hopkins is planning on taking a lot more off the waitlist than they did last year, so who knows? good luck!
 
huybeme said:
its okay, you're still going to get in awesome places. Hopkins is planning on taking a lot more off the waitlist than they did last year, so who knows? good luck!
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Why do you think that the waitlist will be active this year?
 
Jebel said:
Why do you think that the waitlist will be active this year?
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at the interview session director mazza mentioned that last year was an anomaly in taking only three people off the waitlist and that for the previous 8 years they had taken ~50. as such, she was no longer confident in saying a person's chances either way if they were waitlisted.

in my opinion the high matriculation rate probably had a lot to do with the new curriculum and facilities, and as those are only 1 year old now, they will probably still be a big draw. unless they actually accept fewer people this year (which I find hard to believe, as they didn't actually over admit last year) I don't think the waitlist will move much again 🙁
 
jfanny88 said:
at the interview session director mazza mentioned that last year was an anomaly in taking only three people off the waitlist and that for the previous 8 years they had taken ~50. as such, she was no longer confident in saying a person's chances either way if they were waitlisted.

in my opinion the high matriculation rate probably had a lot to do with the new curriculum and facilities, and as those are only 1 year old now, they will probably still be a big draw. unless they actually accept fewer people this year (which I find hard to believe, as they didn't actually over admit last year) I don't think the waitlist will move much again 🙁
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Actually, according to Dean Hicks, they did.

Apparently there was a time when she got a phone call from higher ups asking "what are we going to do?"

It worked itself out before classes started though and they ended up taking three off the WL, one after a student who had deferred acceptance after 2-3 years called to withdraw at THE last minute. She said they lost about 15-20 total before hitting the WL last year IIRC.
 
bamtuba said:
Actually, according to Dean Hicks, they did.

Apparently there was a time when she got a phone call from higher ups asking "what are we going to do?"

It worked itself out before classes started though and they ended up taking three off the WL, one after a student who had deferred acceptance after 2-3 years called to withdraw at THE last minute. She said they lost about 15-20 total before hitting the WL last year IIRC.
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haha oh, well I rescind my statement then...

I guess thats good news for people who have already been waitlisted and not so good news for people who haven't heard yet (like me...maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part 🙂)
 
jfanny88 said:
haha oh, well I rescind my statement then...

I guess thats good news for people who have already been waitlisted and not so good news for people who haven't heard yet (like me...maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part 🙂)
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Well, you'll just have to get that acceptance and skip the wait all together!

👍

:luck:
 
bamtuba said:
Well, you'll just have to get that acceptance and skip the wait all together!

👍

:luck:
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Cheers to that haha..I can only hope I will be so lucky :xf:..

Thanks for the good vibes, I appreciate it 🙂 . Congratulations on your successes so far and best of luck to you the rest of the way...who knows, if we both get lucky maybe I'll see ya in RL one day and get to thank you in person for your over-the-internet support :luck:
 
jfanny88 said:
at the interview session director mazza mentioned that last year was an anomaly in taking only three people off the waitlist and that for the previous 8 years they had taken ~50. as such, she was no longer confident in saying a person's chances either way if they were waitlisted.

in my opinion the high matriculation rate probably had a lot to do with the new curriculum and facilities, and as those are only 1 year old now, they will probably still be a big draw. unless they actually accept fewer people this year (which I find hard to believe, as they didn't actually over admit last year) I don't think the waitlist will move much again 🙁
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The main drawback at Hopkins for many years was the grading system...this is no longer an issue since everything is P/F starting this year. P/F grading + ridiculously awesome new pre-clinical building + ...umm it's Hopkins = wait-list movement will be quite bleak, unless they significantly reduce the number of initially accepted students. If you really want to have a shot off the waitlist, start cranking out those "please let me in cuz I'm really awesome too" letters. Good luck everyone :luck:
 
I know of only one person who was accepted off the wait list from last year, and he was accepted the day before classes started. So what happened? People were not withdrawing because Hopkins was showing a new curriculum, a new building, and Pass/Fail.

Will this happen for next year? Probably not, and here is why:

The new curriculum is being poorly received thus far by the MS1s, thus distorting the perception to interviewees who are here Wed-Fri.

The new building is pretty amazing, so are the new hospitals going up in 2011. Actually chalk this up to fewer withdraws.

Most schools are going toward a Pass/Fail system. Many studies from the AAMC and elsewhere show that students will study just as hard, but will experience much less stress as a result.

So have faith that even if you found yourself on the dreaded waitlist, all hope is not lost.

Also, clinical years and the first year longitudinal clerkship (replaces ambulatory clerkship) are not pass/fail.
 
Azadre said:
I know of only one person who was accepted off the wait list from last year, and he was accepted the day before classes started. So what happened? People were not withdrawing because Hopkins was showing a new curriculum, a new building, and Pass/Fail.

Will this happen for next year? Probably not, and here is why:

The new curriculum is being poorly received thus far by the MS1s, thus distorting the perception to interviewees who are here Wed-Fri.

The new building is pretty amazing, so are the new hospitals going up in 2011. Actually chalk this up to fewer withdraws.

Most schools are going toward a Pass/Fail system. Many studies from the AAMC and elsewhere show that students will study just as hard, but will experience much less stress as a result.

So have faith that even if you found yourself on the dreaded waitlist, all hope is not lost.

Also, clinical years and the first year longitudinal clerkship (replaces ambulatory clerkship) are not pass/fail.
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What's so bad about it?
 
ksmi117 said:
What's so bad about it?
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Receiving the entire anatomy in 7 weeks and being constantly reminded it should be 8 weeks, lack of afternoons during those 8 weeks, and a few other issues like courses saying they are covering the same amount of material in half the time. It really pressed down the spirits of the class, but at this point, we've mostly bounced back and became a civil society again.
 
Azadre said:
Receiving the entire anatomy in 7 weeks and being constantly reminded it should be 8 weeks, lack of afternoons during those 8 weeks, and a few other issues like courses saying they are covering the same amount of material in half the time. It really pressed down the spirits of the class, but at this point, we've mostly bounced back and became a civil society again.
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Do you think the school will be fairly receptive to the MS1s' feedback, or do you not forsee any changes being made before the upcoming year?
 
Azadre said:
Receiving the entire anatomy in 7 weeks and being constantly reminded it should be 8 weeks, lack of afternoons during those 8 weeks, and a few other issues like courses saying they are covering the same amount of material in half the time. It really pressed down the spirits of the class, but at this point, we've mostly bounced back and became a civil society again.
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It's weird, they actually mentioned this (i.e. JHU's curriculum change isn't working very well) at both my Columbia and Penn interview.
 
ksmi117 said:
So Hopkins is apparently reviewing my application today. :xf: :scared:
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:luck: best of luck :luck:, its obvious you want it and you're more than qualified...i have a feeling its gonna work out for you 🙂
 
mdeast said:
It's weird, they actually mentioned this (i.e. JHU's curriculum change isn't working very well) at both my Columbia and Penn interview.
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I thought the curriculum change was for the better. most of the students i spoke to raved about it. It's interesting to see another take on it. I heard at Hopkins that Columbia's curricullum change wasn't working :shrug:
 
w8ting2exhale said:
I thought the curriculum change was for the better. most of the students i spoke to raved about it. It's interesting to see another take on it. I heard at Hopkins that Columbia's curricullum change wasn't working :shrug:
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:laugh: hahah i probably wouldn't trust people at either school talking about another school's new curriculum...it only makes sense that they would talk up their own school, anything else would be silly.

imo, it makes more sense to talk to the students about their own curriculum. i can't speak about columbia, but the ms1's i talked to at hopkins had nothing but positive things to say. that being said, the ms2's-m4's were more hesitant to endorse the change. i guess that makes sense as the ms1's wouldn't really have anything to compare it to and the ms4's were probably wary of anything different from what they went through (and maybe a little jealous 🙂).

while the curriculum is new, its definitely not set in stone and the school seems pretty receptive to the students (I believe they already made a couple changes). regardless, i wouldn't be all too worried about it...i think what my ms4 tour guide said to me sums it up best.."i don't think you should be too concerned with the changes, especially not to the point where you would think of not coming, because no matter what you would still be at hopkins..you're going to get a great education and have an amazing experience here."
 
Sorry to invade your hallowed thread of Hopkinsness, but I just wanted to mention something since I was lurking (avoiding studying for an exam, you know how it is Azadre).

New curricula have growing pains. I suspect both Hopkins and Columbia are having issues with it. It's normal- even if the administration planned really well and it's all under control, the professors (especially the old-timers who are tenured and therefore are sure they know what it takes to make a good doctor) often aren't all that keen on adjusting to new time commitments and having fewer weeks to teach what to them is THE most important material in the world. We had a professor who taught us about the Golgi who stated unequivocally that her lectures would be the most important ones of our career...so yeah. Imagine telling her that she no longer had 3 hours to teach us about the almighty Golgi. Probably wouldn't go so well.

For what it's worth, where I go to school we're on the third year since the curriculum was revamped, and we really don't notice any kinks in it at this point. Funny story: the current third year class was the first to get this curriculum, and according to our school's constitution basically professors have to be more lenient with grading when a new curriculum is in place. So, that year no one failed a class. The second years then came in and all of a sudden they weren't under those rules, and the third years had told them the class wasn't a big deal. 15 people failed. Now they lowered the passing grade to help us out a bit, but we have been TERRIFIED into studying to avoid the disaster of last year. So yeah, again, growing pains. It happens. Don't stress too much, and rely on your upperclassmen to bitch and moan since that's the only way stuff can be changed.

And again for what it's worth, the Step I average of the current third year class at my school went up 8 points from the year before them, so this integrated stuff really works, even when the curriculum is new.

Ok, go back to talking about Hopkins!
 
jfanny88 said:
:laugh: hahah i probably wouldn't trust people at either school talking about another school's new curriculum...it only makes sense that they would talk up their own school, anything else would be silly.

imo, it makes more sense to talk to the students about their own curriculum. i can't speak about columbia, but the ms1's i talked to at hopkins had nothing but positive things to say. that being said, the ms2's-m4's were more hesitant to endorse the change. i guess that makes sense as the ms1's wouldn't really have anything to compare it to and the ms4's were probably wary of anything different from what they went through (and maybe a little jealous 🙂).

while the curriculum is new, its definitely not set in stone and the school seems pretty receptive to the students (I believe they already made a couple changes). regardless, i wouldn't be all too worried about it...i think what my ms4 tour guide said to me sums it up best.."i don't think you should be too concerned with the changes, especially not to the point where you would think of not coming, because no matter what you would still be at hopkins..you're going to get a great education and have an amazing experience here."
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Interesting. Almost all the MS1's I spoke with seemed beat and defeated by the new curriculum. They did mention that it might get better, but they all seemed to lack spirit every time it was mentioned. I asked about the new curriculum in one of my interviews with the faculty and I must have ticked him off or something, because he ranted for like 15 minutes in my interview about how the new curriculum was not going in the right direction.

That said, I think that the new curriculum will improve, since the staff and faculty seem extremely receptive to whatever feedback they get from the students. If I get in here, the "growing pains" of this new curriculum will definitely not prevent me from going. But that's a big if....

good luck ksmi !!
 
huybeme said:
Interesting. Almost all the MS1's I spoke with seemed beat and defeated by the new curriculum. They did mention that it might get better, but they all seemed to lack spirit every time it was mentioned. I asked about the new curriculum in one of my interviews with the faculty and I must have ticked him off or something, because he ranted for like 15 minutes in my interview about how the new curriculum was not going in the right direction.

That said, I think that the new curriculum will improve, since the staff and faculty seem extremely receptive to whatever feedback they get from the students. If I get in here, the "growing pains" of this new curriculum will definitely not prevent me from going. But that's a big if....

good luck ksmi !!
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In no way did the curriculum defeat us. Far, far from it. So what happened? Medical School is hard. Most students still carried a premed mentality with them, and that amped up the stress. But people are starting to appreciate what Pass/Fail means, and why the courses are shorter than they have been traditionally: medicine is not about knowing how DNA is synthesized or exactly how much ATP is produced per glucose, as much as it is understanding how recent advances are changing how we will approach medicine. It's remarkable how much the field will change over the next 40 years, and we are at that frontier.
 
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