2009-2010 Tulane Application Thread

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Thanks so much! I'm really glad to have finally made it and I hope after the cycle is over, I can offer some inspiration to others with my MDapps.

Koko will always find something to eat, and despite the acceptance, there are still plenty of letters to work her way through 🙂

Good luck to you, BTW. I second sending Dr. Beckman an e-mail and please let us know what happens!

Ok, you guys have convinced me. I googled Dr Beckman, this is Barbara Beckman? Will she be wondering how the heck I got her info?
edited: nevermind, I found her email address listed on the School of Medicine administration page, so it seems like it's fair game.

I think I will send it off on Monday morning . . . so it's at the top of the inbox 🙂
 
Ok, you guys have convinced me. I googled Dr Beckman, this is Barbara Beckman? Will she be wondering how the heck I got her info?
edited: nevermind, I found her email address listed on the School of Medicine administration page, so it seems like it's fair game.

I think I will send it off on Monday morning . . . so it's at the top of the inbox 🙂

Yea I interviewed with her. She is SUPER nice. Just be genuine and talk about why you want to go there, why you are a good fit, and what would Tulane get by having you there. That should sum up all the good points. 😀
 
Ok, you guys have convinced me. I googled Dr Beckman, this is Barbara Beckman? Will she be wondering how the heck I got her info?
edited: nevermind, I found her email address listed on the School of Medicine administration page, so it seems like it's fair game.

I think I will send it off on Monday morning . . . so it's at the top of the inbox 🙂

Yes, it can't hurt. I wouldn't worry about not having been to Tulane in order to be able to form an opinion. One theme that I keep reading about and got tons of during my interview day is community service in medicine. If that describes a passion of yours for medicine - then Tulane is perfect! Good luck!
 
Ok, you guys have convinced me. I googled Dr Beckman, this is Barbara Beckman? Will she be wondering how the heck I got her info?
edited: nevermind, I found her email address listed on the School of Medicine administration page, so it seems like it's fair game.

I think I will send it off on Monday morning . . . so it's at the top of the inbox 🙂

that's her. I recall that she told me during my interview that she likes "quirky" people (she was careful to make clear to me that she considers "quirky" a positive attribute🙂). so in your correspondence to her, bring the quirk! though that can be difficult to pull off in writing...seriously, though, emphasize your non-traditionalness. though I got to know them only very briefly, my interview-day colleagues at Tulane all seemed to have something really interesting/unique about them. I mean, most people do, but as compared to the interviewees I've encountered at certain other schools it seemed much more obvious why we'd been chosen for interview. anyhow, give it a shot, you've got nothing to lose and much to gain. and you seem like good ppl, I'd dig having you as a classmate😎
 
that's her. I recall that she told me during my interview that she likes "quirky" people (she was careful to make clear to me that she considers "quirky" a positive attribute🙂). so in your correspondence to her, bring the quirk! though that can be difficult to pull off in writing...seriously, though, emphasize your non-traditionalness. though I got to know them only very briefly, my interview-day colleagues at Tulane all seemed to have something really interesting/unique about them. I mean, most people do, but as compared to the interviewees I've encountered at certain other schools it seemed much more obvious why we'd been chosen for interview. anyhow, give it a shot, you've got nothing to lose and much to gain. and you seem like good ppl, I'd dig having you as a classmate😎
Haha during my interview with Father Don I literally called myself a weirdo. I did clarify that I think of it as a good thing and am a very happy weirdo. 🙂
 
yeah, I look forward to getting to know my quirky and weird Tulane classmates!
 
yeah, I look forward to getting to know my quirky and weird Tulane classmates!😛

(I'm so weird I posted this twice...)
 
so here's the thing

since i've applied, i've emailed dr. beckman twice.

once after i met with her for a talk she gave, thanking her and telling her how excited i was to apply. she replied saying ''thank you for your interest!"

then after my app was marked complete, i emailed her again, going over all the interesting things ive seen and been doing being here in new orleans and how i would not want to move away from here. and that my application is complete and i really look forward to hearing back. to this she never replied.

now im sitting pretty pretty.
pretty pretty

wondering what i could possibly do with all my prettyness here.
 
So, they accept via snail mail and acceptance range via email?

Strange
 
so here's the thing

since i've applied, i've emailed dr. beckman twice.

once after i met with her for a talk she gave, thanking her and telling her how excited i was to apply. she replied saying ''thank you for your interest!"

then after my app was marked complete, i emailed her again, going over all the interesting things ive seen and been doing being here in new orleans and how i would not want to move away from here. and that my application is complete and i really look forward to hearing back. to this she never replied.

now im sitting pretty pretty.
pretty pretty

wondering what i could possibly do with all my prettyness here.

I think you've done all that you can do with Tulane...Good luck.
 
I don't know how I feel about this letter of interest thing. It doesn't really seem fair to interviewees who don't read SDN and don't know they can send LOIs that apparently can help an applicant's chances. I would seem a little more equitable if they had all interviewees fill out a "tertiary" after their interviews that would serve as a LOI and at least let all applicants know (formally) that they can, in fact, send LOI's.
 
I don't know how I feel about this letter of interest thing. It doesn't really seem fair to interviewees who don't read SDN and don't know they can send LOIs that apparently can help an applicant's chances. I would seem a little more equitable if they had all interviewees fill out a "tertiary" after their interviews that would serve as a LOI and at least let all applicants know (formally) that they can, in fact, send LOI's.
I think it is all a matter of initiative.
Were premeds (=masochists) pain is what we do. I sooo do not feel bad for people who would rather sit there freaking out in silence than to reach out to the school they are anxious to hear from.
 
I think it is all a matter of initiative.
Were premeds (=masochists) pain is what we do. I sooo do not feel bad for people who would rather sit there freaking out in silence than to reach out to the school they are anxious to hear from.

+1. it's not an issue of fairness. if one is smart enough to be in a position to apply for medical school, one should be able to figure out the potential benefit of a letter of interest without having read sdn. sdn, while it can be a useful resource, is not the sole source of information wrt medical school application. there are other sources; there is also common sense. additionally, many of us were accepted without sending LOIs. I doubt they can hurt, and they sometimes can help, but probably they do not always help.

in any event, :luck: to ppl waiting to hear from Tulane or any other school
 
+1. it's not an issue of fairness. if one is smart enough to be in a position to apply for medical school, one should be able to figure out the potential benefit of a letter of interest without having read sdn. sdn, while it can be a useful resource, is not the sole source of information wrt medical school application. there are other sources; there is also common sense. additionally, many of us were accepted without sending LOIs. I doubt they can hurt, and they sometimes can help, but probably they do not always help.

in any event, :luck: to ppl waiting to hear from Tulane or any other school
I actually disagree.

As an applicant who was accepted post-interview thanks to an e-mailed LOI, I can't help but wonder what-if. This is my second application cycle in three years and, at the considerable cost of money and time, I'm of course relieved to have gotten in but I'm disturbed by the role of random chance.

It just so happened that day that I was rejected from UC Davis (my alma mater and top choice), spoke to my roommate at dinner, decided to send an email to ask for an appeal, decided to e-mail Tulane while I was at it, and phrased it in such a way that encouraged Dr. Beckman to revisit my file.

Could I have been accepted eventually anyway? Maybe. It does put things into perspective, though, when any number of things could have prevented me from sending that e-mail on that particular day.
 
well, just sent my letter of intent in post interview.

she told us that we must email her when she spoke to us. So, maybe she was not in the past? but she def told us
 
I actually disagree.

As an applicant who was accepted post-interview thanks to an e-mailed LOI, I can't help but wonder what-if. This is my second application cycle in three years and, at the considerable cost of money and time, I'm of course relieved to have gotten in but I'm disturbed by the role of random chance.

It just so happened that day that I was rejected from UC Davis (my alma mater and top choice), spoke to my roommate at dinner, decided to send an email to ask for an appeal, decided to e-mail Tulane while I was at it, and phrased it in such a way that encouraged Dr. Beckman to revisit my file.

Could I have been accepted eventually anyway? Maybe. It does put things into perspective, though, when any number of things could have prevented me from sending that e-mail on that particular day.

I'm not sure with which part of my post you are in disagreement? I said that the LOI probably can't hurt, sometimes can help, but probably won't always help. it appears that in your case it did help. I am glad that it did🙂

and I don't see where "random chance" comes into it. maybe if you'd been hit by a bus that day, preventing you from sending the email, you'd still be in limbo. but clearly you have been focused for some time now on gaining admission to medical school, and, after some disappointment, made a conscious choice to take an action that might get you closer to this goal. if you want to consider your admission "random," by all means do so...but sounds to me like you earned it
 
well, just sent my letter of intent in post interview.

she told us that we must email her when she spoke to us. So, maybe she was not in the past? but she def told us

Dr. Beckman told my group the same thing in October. Judging by SDN, I was the only person for whom it didn't work immediately post-interview. Eventually it worked though so good choice.

I'm not sure with which part of my post you are in disagreement? I said that the LOI probably can't hurt, sometimes can help, but probably won't always help. it appears that in your case it did help. I am glad that it did🙂

and I don't see where "random chance" comes into it. maybe if you'd been hit by a bus that day, preventing you from sending the email, you'd still be in limbo. but clearly you have been focused for some time now on gaining admission to medical school, and, after some disappointment, made a conscious choice to take an action that might get you closer to this goal. if you want to consider your admission "random," by all means do so...but sounds to me like you earned it

I was only disagreeing with the first sentence that it's fair for LOIs to make such a difference at Tulane, not your entire post in general.

I guess the issue for me is what I put in bold near the end, that it doesn't really feel like I earned the acceptance simply because it was an LOI that did the trick. Trust me that I'm thrilled that I got in, but it does feel that it isn't really fair to other students who, for whatever reason, chose not to write a letter.

I agree that LOIs are always good to send and for pre-meds to be actively engaged in the process, but I guess I'm just personally shocked by how much of a difference it actually made.

But enough raining on my own parade. Yay Tulane!
 
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Dr. Beckman told my group the same thing in October. Judging by SDN, I was the only person for whom it didn't work immediately post-interview. Eventually it worked though so good choice.



I was only disagreeing with the first sentence that it's fair for LOIs to make such a difference at Tulane, not your entire post in general.

I guess the issue for me is what I put in bold near the end, that it doesn't really feel like I earned the acceptance simply because it was an LOI that did the trick. Trust me that I'm thrilled that I got in, but it does feel that it isn't really fair to other students who, for whatever reason, chose not to write a letter.

I agree that LOIs are always good to send and for pre-meds to be actively engaged in the process, but I guess I'm just personally shocked by how much of a difference it actually made.

ah, I see. well, it's too bad you don't feel like you earned it and that it's unfair to other applicants, but I would submit that not everything about the med school admissions process (or life, in general) is fair. you have to do what you can to get noticed. you have to be an advocate for yourself. you will have to continue to do this throughout med school, residency and your career. I'm not condoning obnoxious behavior, but you (ppl in general, I'm not picking on *you*) have to work for what you want. sometimes, but not often, what you want will be handed to you. but you're more likely to get it if you work for it and if you take the extra step that needs to be taken (like an LOI for example)). I don't know why I am trying to convince you that you earned your acceptance...koko, why won't you believe me😀

/soapbox

incidentally, I do not recall Dr. Beckman saying anything to my interview group about sending followup letters (this was in Sept.). I sent thank you emails to each of my interviewers, but did this because I try always to have good manners🙂
 
ah, I see. well, it's too bad you don't feel like you earned it and that it's unfair to other applicants, but I would submit that not everything about the med school admissions process (or life, in general) is fair.

I totally agree with this. The most important lesson I learned from my first cycle was that the squeaky wheel gets the oil--in life and in med school--and I'm glad that it ultimately worked out.

As an aside, I'm out of my funk now and I believe you kia! I did earn my freaking acceptance! We all did! Yeah!! 😍

And good luck to everyone still waiting.
 
Just to clarify, I didn't say that LOIs are a bad thing nor did I say that Tulane shouldn't put a large emphasis on them. They are a private school and they can do whatever they want.

My issue is with disclosure and transparency. If LOIs are important to the school and they use them to help make a decision, every applicant should be formally told they can send them if they would like. Judging from the posts in the forum, some people were told (my interview day was casually told we can send our "feedback" on the day to Dr. Beckman) and some were not. Many applicants don't read SDN and I honestly feel that we have an advantage over them in this regard because of the information we get that isn't formally provided by the school. I would hate for something like this to hurt someones application.

Although, one could make the argument that LOIs really don't have an impact on peoples' applications at Tulane, it appears there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.
 
i think tulane has a pretty clear political agenda with respect to who they accept.

for example. why give consideration to sub-30 teach for america applicants, and no other kind of sub-30? it does seem fine and dandy if you think about the serious lack of good public school systems in new orleans. but really? seems a little fishy to me that only TFAs can save the city to the point of needing to recruit them above and beyond any other kind of applicant.
 
i think tulane has a pretty clear political agenda with respect to who they accept.

for example. why give consideration to sub-30 teach for america applicants, and no other kind of sub-30? it does seem fine and dandy if you think about the serious lack of good public school systems in new orleans. but really? seems a little fishy to me that only TFAs can save the city to the point of needing to recruit them above and beyond any other kind of applicant.

Do you just run around these boards posting ridiculous comments? I'm starting to notice a trend...

Anyways, in regards to TFA, it seems to open doors at many institutions. Numerous med schools cut TFA members slack in the admissions process. Talking to my law school friends at top schools, many say the same thing happens in the law school admissions process. So, don't try to pin this on Tulane when it's happening nearly across the board.
 
I think Tulane in general is seeking public service people. I mean Tulane medical center stands amidst real third world poverty. They want people to serve this community. The TFA program has already done this selection process for them. Makes perfect sense.

Myself. I love New Orleans. But was honest about not being a crusader type. And hence am waitlisted. Yall who have been accepted did/said the right things. Good for you. Koko I would be extra proud of myself for hustling up an acceptance. You will need this moxy and these moves again and again as you continue on.

I do find it ironic that they intentionally seek public service credentials. While at the same time charging huge tuition. I think my cynicism for this aspect came through too much.

Congrats yall!
 
I think Tulane in general is seeking public service people. I mean Tulane medical center stands amidst real third world poverty. They want people to serve this community. The TFA program has already done this selection process for them. Makes perfect sense.

Very well said. Plus, as long as the MCAT is decent, if the school looks specifically at other things (and public service is very big amongst many schools) then it can more than make up for a sub-30 score. The MCAT is not everything especially at a school like Tulane.
 
I was complete on 20th of Nov even though I sent secondary in on 15th of Sept. Since 20th, I have not heard a thing yet. Time to send loi?
 
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i think tulane has a pretty clear political agenda with respect to who they accept.

for example. why give consideration to sub-30 teach for america applicants, and no other kind of sub-30? it does seem fine and dandy if you think about the serious lack of good public school systems in new orleans. but really? seems a little fishy to me that only TFAs can save the city to the point of needing to recruit them above and beyond any other kind of applicant.

Genius logic.
 
Hi everyone,

I sent in my secondary early November and haven't not heard back from them yet.

Anyone else has similar situation, but got an interview already?

How long does it take them to get back to me??

I really like Tulane! 😀
 
they are sorta slow on the interviews and fill their class around now (was told that in an interview).

I might be wrong, but unless u can really wow them, i would not expect to be interviewed. i think they also stop interviewing in feb so there are not many days left

just my rather uninformed opinion
 
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i think tulane has a pretty clear political agenda with respect to who they accept.

for example. why give consideration to sub-30 teach for america applicants, and no other kind of sub-30? it does seem fine and dandy if you think about the serious lack of good public school systems in new orleans. but really? seems a little fishy to me that only TFAs can save the city to the point of needing to recruit them above and beyond any other kind of applicant.

as has already been pointed out, this is unsubstantiated and likely inaccurate. as well as nonsensical. I mean, it's not as if the TFA alums are going to be teaching in the NOLA public schools in their free time as med students

perhaps you could direct your energy toward something other than casting aspersions on the Tulane adcom? I mean, most everyone who goes through this process has one or more schools whose lack of interest in us is frustrating and disappointing, but at some point we have to be honest and admit that it's not them, it's us..
 
Hi MacBook,

I was wondering what you mean by "fill their class around now"?


they are sorta slow on the interviews and fill their class around now (was told that in an interview).

I might be wrong, but unless u can really wow them, i would not expect to be interviewed. i think they also stop interviewing in feb so there are not many days left

just my rather uninformed opinion
 
i think tulane has a pretty clear political agenda with respect to who they accept.

for example. why give consideration to sub-30 teach for america applicants, and no other kind of sub-30? it does seem fine and dandy if you think about the serious lack of good public school systems in new orleans. but really? seems a little fishy to me that only TFAs can save the city to the point of needing to recruit them above and beyond any other kind of applicant.

I think that Tulane wants students who demonstrate dedication to service. What better way to do that than to give up your own life and goals for two years to teach in under-served schools? I think your comment suggests a lack of understanding of Teach for America and what its committment entails. It really is almost insensitive, especially to those of us who are TFA alumni.
 
I mean, most everyone who goes through this process has one or more schools whose lack of interest in us is frustrating and disappointing, but at some point we have to be honest and admit that it's not them, it's us..

This

I think your comment suggests a lack of understanding of Teach for America and what its committment entails. It really is almost insensitive, especially to those of us who are TFA alumni.

And that.

I'm also a TFA alum - it is helpful but it isn't a magic acceptance elixir like some people seem to think, at least for medical school. This is my second application cycle (I was in my 2nd year for the first cycle, didn't get in anywhere). My acceptance is probably due in large part to being TFA and I'm fine with that. It was incredibly challenging, much more so than, say, working in a lab for 2 years. If a school is committed to training physicians for underserved populations, why not draw from a group of people who have already been working for underserved populations, albeit in a different profession?
 
I don't want to sound too negative but if you're still waiting for an interview, don't have too much hope. During my interview in November, Dr. Beckman said that all interviews are booked. The only invites they still send out are in cases of cancellation. So there is still a chance to get an interview but very very slim. My interview here was also due to a cancellation.

I'm a reapplicant so I understand the pain. Last year, I was waiting and waiting also but it's time to get realistic.

While I'm not TFA, I'm in AmeriCorps so I'm one of those public service people. If I'm the admission committee and have to choose between a 32MCAT regular traditional applicant and a 29MCAT TFA or AmeriCorps, I'd choose the latter. Why not? What's the difference between the two applicants? One was able to answer a few more questions correctly while one dedicated a long time to live modestly to serve others.
 
yea. i guess i probably wont be interviewing.

i guess the only issue I had was that the TFA option shows up on the secondary and clicking yes to that literally prevents the computer from automatically rejecting sub-30.

not only that, TFA goes ''top of the list'' when it comes to interviews, according to dr. beckman

its fine really, i'm all up for the school that looks beyond numbers and likes people with a genuine interest in something valuable.

but TFA just seemed a little specific.
so i thought perhaps it was political.

didn't mean to come off as assholish i guess.

and i'm sure i'd love a TFA if i met one.
 
I don't want to sound too negative but if you're still waiting for an interview, don't have too much hope. During my interview in November, Dr. Beckman said that all interviews are booked. The only invites they still send out are in cases of cancellation. So there is still a chance to get an interview but very very slim. My interview here was also due to a cancellation.

I'm a reapplicant so I understand the pain. Last year, I was waiting and waiting also but it's time to get realistic.

While I'm not TFA, I'm in AmeriCorps so I'm one of those public service people. If I'm the admission committee and have to choose between a 32MCAT regular traditional applicant and a 29MCAT TFA or AmeriCorps, I'd choose the latter. Why not? What's the difference between the two applicants? One was able to answer a few more questions correctly while one dedicated a long time to live modestly to serve others.

I turned my app in late oct.

Heard a lot of wind noises and crickets (silence).

And now I'm hearing that they've filled their class up already....



Sounds about right!! 😀
 
yea. i guess i probably wont be interviewing.

i guess the only issue I had was that the TFA option shows up on the secondary and clicking yes to that literally prevents the computer from automatically rejecting sub-30.

not only that, TFA goes ''top of the list'' when it comes to interviews, according to dr. beckman

its fine really, i'm all up for the school that looks beyond numbers and likes people with a genuine interest in something valuable.

but TFA just seemed a little specific.
so i thought perhaps it was political.

didn't mean to come off as assholish i guess.

and i'm sure i'd love a TFA if i met one.

I'm pretty sure the TFA option shows up because they waive the secondary application fee for corps members. It's so they know not to charge you for the app.
 
there are no automatic rejections. Sub-30 MCAT or whatever! I got accepted with a 29. These rumors have to stop
 
I'm pretty sure the TFA option shows up because they waive the secondary application fee for corps members. It's so they know not to charge you for the app.

This is the truth.

there are no automatic rejections. Sub-30 MCAT or whatever! I got accepted with a 29. These rumors have to stop

lol. Yeah, internet rumors...smh. However, I stayed with student hosts for my interview and they had their friends over, and somehow this topic came up. Apparently, it's being debated - not necessarily sub-30 auto rejections, but taking steps to bump up the school's MCAT average (I can see how that would easily get stretched and twisted into sub-30 auto reject). Imo, Tulane really isn't one of those institutions I see doing auto-rejects, as they tend to search through applicants with a commitment to service, public health, yadda yadda yadda.
 
yea. i guess i probably wont be interviewing.

i guess the only issue I had was that the TFA option shows up on the secondary and clicking yes to that literally prevents the computer from automatically rejecting sub-30.

not only that, TFA goes ''top of the list'' when it comes to interviews, according to dr. beckman

its fine really, i'm all up for the school that looks beyond numbers and likes people with a genuine interest in something valuable.

but TFA just seemed a little specific.
so i thought perhaps it was political.

didn't mean to come off as assholish i guess.

and i'm sure i'd love a TFA if i met one.

Meh. That makes it slightly more bitter not to get an interview granted.
 
don't give up all hope on an interview; i had heard nothing for months and then got a call december 1st to interview on december 4th, and got an acceptance a few days later. so it could still happen!
 
don't give up all hope on an interview; i had heard nothing for months and then got a call december 1st to interview on december 4th, and got an acceptance a few days later. so it could still happen!

congratulations! you may have set some sort of landspeed acceptance record😉
 
don't give up all hope on an interview; i had heard nothing for months and then got a call december 1st to interview on december 4th, and got an acceptance a few days later. so it could still happen!

woah. that's awesome, congrats. i've heard nothing from them for a while now, but hey - I guess not all hope is lost. still not banking on an interview though.
 
thanks! someone must have canceled, and the review meeting must have fallen right after my interview, i'm assuming.
 
This news about the class being full makes no sense and really upsets me if it is true. I'll skip the pity party and just say that I finished my application as soon as I could, completed Nov 1st. Still a full month and a half for the deadline.

Their application explicitly states:
"To ensure full consideration, all required material must be received electronically in our office, no later than January 15, 2010"

Now, I do not at all consider this full consideration if all the interview slots are taken and the class is "full." It is almost as insulting as Duke offering me an interview, but not having any spots available (calling fixed that one). Does anyone have any additional information?
 
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This news about the class being full makes no sense and really upsets me if it is true. I'll skip the pity party and just say that I finished my application as soon as I could, completed Nov 1st. Still a full month and a half for the deadline.

Their application explicitly states:
"To ensure full consideration, all required material must be received electronically in our office, no later than January 15, 2010"

Now, I do not at all consider this full consideration if all the interview slots are taken and the class is "full." It is almost as insulting as Duke offering me an interview, but not having any spots available (calling fixed that one). Does anyone have any additional information?

Did that really happen to you at Duke?? That's so wrong.

I understand your frustration, and like you, I hope it is not true. I would truly love to get an interview offer from Tulane, so it would be very sad to learn that they have filled their class by Christmas.
 
I think if they did actually say that they probably mean filled as in accepting exactly the number of students as spots. Plenty of people will choose other schools though opening up a lot of spots.
 
I interviewed recently and they told us the class was technically full but not to worry that we were interviewing "late". They would work with us if we really wanted to be at Tulane. Judging from past years it seems as if they are done granting interviews, I only got one from a phone call for 3 or 4 days later.
 
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