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2010-2011 Case Western Reserve University Application Thread
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I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I don't think I bashed you, and I brought it up now because I've been out of town interviewing this entire week. If you posted saying that the issue was settled because, based on the previous discussion, you had dropped the class, I didn't see it. You've had a great app season, and taking a biochem class is not anything worth being neurotic about! Again, I'm telling you that you don't need to take the class this semester, regardless of when you hear back. I mean, there are two possible outcomes, right? One, you could be accepted as late as the end of May, in which case you would take the class in June (and even do it online if necessary-people have done it before). Two, you could be rejected, in which case you don't have to take biochem at all before med school.
As for the rest of it, you're right that this is your last six months of free time, and you should use it to do what you want. If you want to dance, then you should dance. But your other posts did kind of come across like you were upset about having to take biochem at all, not just that you were upset about having to take it now. And like people were telling you, biochem is important for all physicians, let alone researchers. But worst case scenario is that you'll just take it next year in med school wherever you go. I can't imagine any med school not teaching biochem, not the least of which because it's on Step 1. 😛
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I am a conscientious non-observer of Case Thread post-topping! 3 posts just to secure a "top post" is a heinous, heinous crime. Punishable by death, I hear!
Secretly I want a top post too.
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Wow, I hope to see you on Monday looking like that. I will be flying out here soon from Seattle. Looking forward for the interview on Monday!
Thanks Auriga! Maybe I'll see you around.
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Myuu mentioned previously that East Cleveland at night is not really safe, can this be said for most of downtown Cleveland? I used to use this website for Chicago that gives crime statistics by neighborhood (http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/). Is there something similar for Cleveland?
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Case and CCF are both in an urban neighborhood, and yes, you should be aware of your surroundings whenever you visit any city, including here. However, neither campus is located anywhere close to downtown, and I can't really speak as to the safety of downtown Cleveland at night. I've gone downtown during the day several times and have not had any issues.
Case is at the border of Cleveland Heights, which is a suburb of Cleveland. The area north of the Case campus is not very good, which is why earlier in the thread, we were cautioning people who are staying at the Glidden House about getting off the train at the RTA station near there late at night. There are some safety issues on campus sometimes, mainly with things being stolen and occasionally people being robbed. It seems like the area around the north part of campus gets the bulk of that.
CCF is in Fairfax. The police presence on campus is extremely heavy, and there is very little problem on campus outside of theft of property that is not secured. (CCF actually has its own police force as if it were a small city.) Again, the area just north of campus is not particularly good. Still, several students go to the Fairfax Community Center on Fridays to put on the student-run free health clinic, and as far as I know, there has never been a problem.
Again, it's important to exercise common sense, especially if you're female and by yourself in a city that you don't know. I don't think that Cleveland is any worse than other large cities, but it's definitely possible to get yourself into trouble if you go looking for it.
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Cleveland area question for you folks:
So, I am pretty into hiking / camping / the outdoors in general and am interested in what kind of opportunities are in the cleveland area. More importantly, I'm interested in opportunities that are actually practical and that I could realistically con classmates to traverse with me.
In the warm months, how far would one have to drive to find a decent hiking trail? How good is the bicycling in the area?
When it's cold, are there actual trails and popular areas to do, for example, CC skiing? Are there accessible roads to get to said places?
I love Case (The School) but I am still heavily debating Case (as a school in the Cleveland area). I am someone who likes to thoroughly explore and enjoy where I live, so this makes a big difference for me. Would love your 2cents. Feel free to sell me on Cleveland in other aspects too, ideally ones that have not been mentioned elsewhere in the thread (I have miraculously read most of this largely off-topic crazy fest). Thanks.
Love the ninjapenguin.
So, I am pretty into hiking / camping / the outdoors in general and am interested in what kind of opportunities are in the cleveland area. More importantly, I'm interested in opportunities that are actually practical and that I could realistically con classmates to traverse with me.
In the warm months, how far would one have to drive to find a decent hiking trail? How good is the bicycling in the area?
When it's cold, are there actual trails and popular areas to do, for example, CC skiing? Are there accessible roads to get to said places?
I love Case (The School) but I am still heavily debating Case (as a school in the Cleveland area). I am someone who likes to thoroughly explore and enjoy where I live, so this makes a big difference for me. Would love your 2cents. Feel free to sell me on Cleveland in other aspects too, ideally ones that have not been mentioned elsewhere in the thread (I have miraculously read most of this largely off-topic crazy fest). Thanks.
Love the ninjapenguin.
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45 min. south is the Cuyahoga Valley National Forest and it has plenty of ups and downs to challenge most hikers. Lots of variety in the trees and some spectacular vistas, especially in the fall. Sandstone cliffs also make this area special. Try Top O' the World, Wolfs Ledges or O'Neil's Woods are some of my favorites. The Cuyahoga Trail is 13 miles long (most of the other trails are 2-3 mile quick hitters) and winds through the park, including a stretch along some of the old Erie Canal locks, which are pretty cool( if you like that sort of thing🙂). And of course you can stop in the neat little village of Peninsula for ice cream! (Hey ya gotta have a goal when you're hiking or biking!)
There are paved bike trails in the park also, but I'm sure you'll find good trails a lot closer than the CVNF.
Two downhill ski areas are in the north end of the park, Boston Mills and Brandywine. Not to be confused with real downhill, but if you have limited time, you can get there, have a lot of fun and get home in an afternoon.
Enjoy!
Applicant here, and not native of Cleveland, so take what I say with a grain of salt. But I'm a huge outdoor enthusiast like you and the Cleveland area is actually selling me on the school even more. I completely understand what you mean by needing your environment to match your interests for you to be happy, and it's really going to come down to perspective. If you're coming from a rural area, you might feel the crunch of living in a larger city. If you're coming from a city like me, Cleveland is a much needed breath of fresh air (although apparently the water is quite dirty lol).
I'm lucky that my favorite outdoor activity could probably be done within walking distance from campus, so you might have a little more difficulty (with hiking, CC skiing etc.). Trails definitely exist (I think their parks system actually has a good deal of them), but again it's going to come down to perspective. If you're coming from a rural area trails might be 10 minutes from your door, whereas in Cleveland they might be up to 45. That's just about as good as it'll get in any city from my experience though.
You should definitely get the input from students, but I felt compelled to put my two cents out. There are definitely outlets for your favorite outdoor activity (I guess maybe not skiing or snowboarding though, no mountains) but it might take some time to get to them (but on the level with what can be expected in the best of city situations). Oh and if I get accepted you won't have to con me into going along with you!
Sell on Cleveland - For the current price of my small apartment I could get a 5 bedroom house in Cleveland. For people who like space and outdoor areas, that's huge.
Good Luck!
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Let's not forget that Cleveland Metroparks offer 40 miles of paved trails. Great for biking and walking, but inline skaters might have to be careful due to some unexpected hills and intersections. There's a place to do just about everything around here, though!
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Besides students taking courses to obtain a master's degree, what are some "fun" courses students have taken? I took a swimming course during undergrad and it was great to get credit for working out 😀 How does grading work for undergrad courses?
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Hmmmm, I'm actually not sure what non-masters classes people have taken, though I think someone mentioned ballroom dancing and I'm pretty sure someone had taken at class at the Cleveland Institute of Music. Grading is generally whatever the UG grading is, unless you're allowed to audit (some courses are, some courses aren't, I'm not really sure how this is determined).
If you can fit it into your schedule (and handle your med school obligations), then you absolutely should.😀
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I've been reading this post religiously for months, and decided to throw my own paranoia into the mix (don't you feel lucky, punks?). I was lucky enough to interview at CCLCM in December (and fell head over heals in love with the school), but as of yet have not heard any kind of result. I've called the school (and let me say those secretaries are saints for having to deal with all of us) and they told me that my file has not been reviewed as of yet. So I was wondering what chunk of interviewees were being considered for this round of acceptances? Also, how were people informed about their waitlist/hold? Through the mail, e-mail, or phone?
Congratulations to everyone who got in - you are very lucky people who will get a great education! And if either school at Case broke your heart...don't worry, there are so many other ways to be a great doctor!
Congratulations to everyone who got in - you are very lucky people who will get a great education! And if either school at Case broke your heart...don't worry, there are so many other ways to be a great doctor!
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Just interviewed yesterday. This was an awesome school where everyone seemed very happy to be there. Definitely one of my top choices.
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This is what I loved about the school during my interview day. I sat in on a IQ session and during their break one of the ladies in the group told me "I love what I do." I kind of gave her one of these looks
😕 because I thought she was being sarcastic and I asked her if she was joking and she said "no, I really being here and learning medicine." The other students in the IQ session joined in and reiterated her sentiments which impressed me.Out of all my interviews where I talked to current students, Case had the only students who didn't make jokes about going into another field or staying away from medicine. I appreciated that and I think it says a lot about the quality of the school in addition to the students who attend the school.
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This is what I loved about the school during my interview day. I sat in on a IQ session and during their break one of the ladies in the group told me "I love what I do." I kind of gave her one of these looks
Out of all my interviews where I talked to current students, Case had the only students who didn't make jokes about going into another field or staying away from medicine. I appreciated that and I think it says a lot about the quality of the school in addition to the students who attend the school.
I definitely agree. Every student that I walked around with was happy to take me and show me the school. They all knew each other too and were always greeted by smiles. It says a lot about a school when everyone is so friendly and high-spirited. It couldn't possibly be fake, because no one would be able to keep that high of spirits with so many different interview dates. This seems like it is a great school and I hope to attend.
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Someone else PMed me about this, so I'm going to post it publicly too. Just to clarify, the CCLCM adcomm HAS reviewed everyone's apps at least once. They meet every other week all season long to vote on people's apps, so all of your apps got reviewed within two weeks of your interview date. At that point, many people are put on hold/high hold (which is what you guys are on), and some get rejected. Of the people on hold/high hold, the adcomm reviews some of them again at the three subcommittee meetings. These meetings are separate from the regular biweekly meetings, and it's at the subcommittee meetings where people are selected to be admitted into the class on one of the three acceptance dates when Dr. Franco makes calls.
So, to recap:
- If you interviewed at CCLCM, your app was reviewed at one of the regular meetings within two weeks of when you interviewed.
- If you were sent a hold/high hold letter, then the adcomm rated you highly enough that you have a chance of being accepted. Otherwise, you would have already received a rejection letter.
- Only the subcommittee meetings are used to select accepted people. Not everyone gets reviewed at every subcommittee meeting, but again, if you're still on hold/high hold and have not been rejected, then you are still in the running.
- You can try calling the office about your status if you really want to, but you probably aren't going to get anything more out of them beyond, "we're still making a decision."
(Just finished Case undergrad, so what I'm saying isn't totally made up 😛). I clearly don't know what classes Case med students take, but I can explain undergrad grading. Some courses, especially 101 or large lectures, are available to audit. Gym classes, with very few exceptions, are pass/fail for 0 credits because Case doesn't want students padding GPAs by taking, like...racquetball. Some classes, like the performance ensembles, come with the option to take it for 0 or 1 credit. Any 1 class can be taken pass/fail in a semester--I would think that would be true for med students taking undergrad classes as well.
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I'm curious about this, since I've received neither a hold notice nor a rejection letter and interviewed at one of the first interview days. When I called last week, they said the adcomm should have a decision on my file this week. I guess I'm confused now!
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Thanks for the info! Um, but...ya see.... I know "someone" who interviewed, and is patiently waiting, not bugging anyone, but hasn't heard anything, no rejection, but no hold/high hold letter/email either. Is there a 3rd category for people like this? Limbo/Lost in the Mail category perhaps?😉
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Sorry, I have no idea why some people are getting hold letters and others aren't getting anything. But if you haven't been rejected or accepted, I'd consider it a de facto hold.
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regarding applicants who have been rejected post-interview, has that last status update actually been made yet?
or have only pre-interview rejections gone out?
or have only pre-interview rejections gone out?
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Sorry, I have no idea why some people are getting hold letters and others aren't getting anything. But if you haven't been rejected or accepted, I'd consider it a de facto hold.
Thanks CCLCMer! I figured that was the case, I didn't know previously that rejections had gone out. Holdin' out hope 😀
I interviewed there yesterday (my now number one choice for school... best curriculum and the students actually have personalities...), and I think the secretary said the subcommittee meets this upcoming Monday.... so definitely expect a status change either Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.
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Thank you each for the information. I'm definitely going to get settled into school first and figure out the workload before I even attempt at taking any other classes (for a master's or just for fun). I like that Case gives their students ample free-time to pursue other interests.
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I think some people on this forum don't like to mention specific dates when decisions go out so that people don't get too excited about it.
Last time there was a committee meeting, we didn't hear back until a week after. Don't know if that's the case here or not.
I think some people on this forum don't like to mention specific dates when decisions go out so that people don't get too excited about it.
Last time there was a committee meeting, we didn't hear back until a week after. Don't know if that's the case here or not.
I can reaffirm the date of the next committee meeting. When I interviewed Mr. Essman said during his morning orientation that the next meeting would be January 31st, next Monday. Of course that might change, and it might take a good deal of time before decisions are uploaded. Good to know that it took a week last time, I thought it wad two days after meeting (ie the Wednesday after the meeting).
Good luck everyone (my number one too, couldnt agree more)!
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I think that committee meeting is for the UP program. Many of the other people are asking about the subcommittee for the CCLCM program. I am assuming that these two have separate committees?
Ya I was definitely referring to UP. I thought that's what the poster was referring to (they referred to a committee meeting happening on the same day the UP one is supposed to). Is the turn around for UP decisions being up after the committee meeting a week or two days (it seems meetings are on Mondays and notifications are on Wednesdays)?
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Seems like the last batch of acceptances happened on a Wednesday. Just my observations though.
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Yeah, meetings occur on Mondays, with results usually posted by Wednesday for the UP.
Thanks for the info. I saw that it seemed typical for results to be posted on Wednesdays, but I wasn't sure if that was the Wednesday immediately after the Monday meeting or the Wednesday of the following week. Pretty exciting and terrifying at the same time that a decision is so close! Fastest turnaround I've seen!
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Hope everything's alright!! And thanks for the best info that you always provide us on the forum. Case's forum is the most helpful thing ever!
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Yeah REPEATEDLY posting multiple useless posts to claim top of page, especially when it's been done OVER 40 TIMES, is the definition of helpful.
Mostly jk, you also come through when it counts by being very helpful, friendly, and informative.
But at least if you're going to post 10 times to claim the top spot, you better have something of the caliber of ninja penguin to share. Just sayin.
Mostly jk, you also come through when it counts by being very helpful, friendly, and informative.
But at least if you're going to post 10 times to claim the top spot, you better have something of the caliber of ninja penguin to share. Just sayin.
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Applicants get to make ultimatums now? That's cute!😀
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I agree with you. If no one else tries to compete for a top, maybe it won't be a big deal anymore. 😉
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Hey hockeyjunkie! I tried to visit you and the interviewees, but no one was in the office between classes :\ I'm glad you had enoyed it! We do our best to make it a very comfy day so you get to see Case like it really is. ^_^
When I interviewed here, I saw how friendly people were with each other. Several of them had called each other and tried really hard to find me a student host when I went, too. I was shocked. My student host went out of her way to let me stay in her tiny place for 2 nights, and was an absolute blast to hang around with. I thought that it was possible that it was just those few who involved in the interviewing process or who offered housing, but when I saw how the students interacted with each other in the halls, it was dramatically different from other places I'd been. I was sold.
Then this summer, and I'm not joking when I say it, I was even more impressed when I got to know my classmates...so it's no joke that Case really creates a very special class of students who have all sorts of different backgrounds, but all have a very "team" kind of attitude. <3
Oh, and this isn't really all that late in the game. You've still got a great chance. I interviewed in Jan. Good luck!
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I LOVE the trails in the parks. They are beautiful, they go all over the city, and there are many different parks etc. I have only biked a little outside of the parks, so I can't speak much for the roads...
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