2011-2012 Stony Brook Application Thread

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Although I agree with the rest of your comment, the distribution of specialties is not totally meaningless. It does show that Stoney Brook's students have a strong tendency to go into primary care. This however is no surprise as SB prides itself on this fact!

If you take a look at the match list thread you'll see that the % of graduates going into IM/FM/Peds at sb is almost exactly the same as harvard (just chose that as a random example) and the % changes every year. Point is there really isnt much info that can be garnered from the specialties people pick.

Also IM is popular at almost every school because it is one of the most intellectually stimulating and by far the most versatile in terms of future career prospects (I may be a bit biased though).

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If you take a look at the match list thread you'll see that the % of graduates going into IM/FM/Peds at sb is almost exactly the same as harvard (just chose that as a random example) and the % changes every year. Point is there really isnt much info that can be garnered from the specialties people pick.

Also IM is popular at almost every school because it is one of the most intellectually stimulating and by far the most versatile in terms of future career prospects (I may be a bit biased though).

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Just to further this point: survey studies have shown that 2/3's of all IM residents plan to continue on in their training with fellowships.
 
I just got put on the high priority waitlist this morning, I am not sure what to make of that but I am pretty excited to still have a chance.
 
I just got put on the high priority waitlist this morning, I am not sure what to make of that but I am pretty excited to still have a chance.


did they actually write "high priority waitlist" in the e-mail?
 
did they actually write "high priority waitlist" in the e-mail?

Yeah they did:

"I am writing to inform you of the status of your candidacy for Stony Brook University School of Medicine. You are one of a select group of individuals (High Priority Wait List) whose candidacy generated a great deal of enthusiasm with the Committee on Admissions. However, at this point in time, we have accepted significantly more applicants than available seats. We anticipate that by May 15, 2012, some of the multiply accepted candidates may withdraw their acceptance to Stony Brook. As those seats become available, we will likely be making offers to those on the High Priority Wait List. Please let us know by May 4th whether you are still interested in attending Stony Brook and want to be considered for the High Priority Wait List."
 
Can current students (M1 or M2) comment on financial aid packages at Stony Brook? Is it all loans or do some people get scholarships? If there are scholarships, what is the typical range?
 
Yeah they did:

"I am writing to inform you of the status of your candidacy for Stony Brook University School of Medicine. You are one of a select group of individuals (High Priority Wait List) whose candidacy generated a great deal of enthusiasm with the Committee on Admissions. However, at this point in time, we have accepted significantly more applicants than available seats. We anticipate that by May 15, 2012, some of the multiply accepted candidates may withdraw their acceptance to Stony Brook. As those seats become available, we will likely be making offers to those on the High Priority Wait List. Please let us know by May 4th whether you are still interested in attending Stony Brook and want to be considered for the High Priority Wait List."

So were you placed on the high priority wait list directly or first on the regular wait list?
 
I was placed directly on HPWL, this was the first I heard from them after interviewing over a month ago. But either way, I just checked some previous years threads and at least for the last two years there were people who got in off of the regular waitlist. So don't give up on SBU, there is always a chance. I haven't checked threads from years earlier than 2009, but I am going to check them out now.
 
Thanks for the info. Not sure what that means for those of us put on the regular wait list last week.
 
Yeah I am not sure what to make of HPWL either, as far as I can tell movement varies a bit from year to year and there were a few years where they didn't exhaust HPWL. I heard that there were a lot of qualified applicants to schools in general this year so I am trying not to get my hopes up too much but I am crossing my fingers for a lot of waitlist movement for all of us.
 
Well LieutenantDan, I can see from your profile that you are deserving of a break about now. I hope you get into Stony and I have a feeling you will. Best of luck to you. You have worked hard and you deserve this.

Thanks for your support, although I feel very fortunate in that this is the first year that I have a seat elsewhere should the waitlist not pan out, so I have a lot of empathy for those who are still hoping that this is the year they go to medical school. I am pulling for all of us!:xf:
 
Has anyone received financial aid information yet? It is getting kind of close to May 15th...
 
Has anyone received financial aid information yet? It is getting kind of close to May 15th...

At second look we were told that financial aid would not be received for a few months yet and if you need the information to decide between schools you should call the financial aid office to get a rough idea.
 
At second look we were told that financial aid would not be received for a few months yet and if you need the information to decide between schools you should call the financial aid office to get a rough idea.

Thanks for the info. I find it odd that they dont give it out before May 15th. I have received fin aid from every other school.
 
Was a tough decision, but I just declined my offer of acceptance. Good luck to the people on the WL!
 
The threads have been kind of dead lately. I guess we are all waiting for those WLs to start moving.

Best of Luck to all of us still waiting!
 
Hi guys, 2013 cycle applicant here. Just curious if anyone who knows would mind sharing the avg MCAT/GPA for students that matriculated at Stony Brook in 2010 and or 2011. I am wondering if the data on the LizzyM spreadsheet (3.65/32 matriculant averages) is current or out of date, and a reputable SDN poster told me that sometimes interviewees are given recent matriculant data in their interview folders. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 
Hi guys, 2013 cycle applicant here. Just curious if anyone who knows would mind sharing the avg MCAT/GPA for students that matriculated at Stony Brook in 2010 and or 2011. I am wondering if the data on the LizzyM spreadsheet (3.65/32 matriculant averages) is current or out of date, and a reputable SDN poster told me that sometimes interviewees are given recent matriculant data in their interview folders. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

I don't have anything in the folder they provided regarding MCAT or GPA data, only a match list. However, the most recent version of the MSAR has their median GPA as 3.72 and median MCAT as 32. Hope that helps.
Also, 10th-90th percentile range is 29-37 for MCAT and 3.32-3.97 for GPA.
 
I don't have anything in the folder they provided regarding MCAT or GPA data, only a match list. However, the most recent version of the MSAR has their median GPA as 3.72 and median MCAT as 32. Hope that helps.
Also, 10th-90th percentile range is 29-37 for MCAT and 3.32-3.97 for GPA.

Thanks, LieutanantDan!

I have access to the MSAR data as well. As I understand it, however, that data is for all accepted students, and the matriculated student averages are typically at least a little bit lower (students accept more students than they take, top applicants get into many schools, etc.)
 
I don't have anything in the folder they provided regarding MCAT or GPA data, only a match list. However, the most recent version of the MSAR has their median GPA as 3.72 and median MCAT as 32. Hope that helps.
Also, 10th-90th percentile range is 29-37 for MCAT and 3.32-3.97 for GPA.

Is there any way to see the match list? I'm also going to be applying for 2013.
 
So does anyone have any information about SB's clinical sites. In the information that was emailed regarding stuff given out at second look it said that 40 students would be assigned to Winthrop University Hospital. I was not aware that they did this. Can anyone elaborate?
 
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So does anyone have any information about SB's clinical sites. In the information that was emailed regarding stuff given out at second look it said that 40 students would be assigned to Winthrop University Hospital. I was not aware that they did this. Can anyone elaborate?

For the clinical years, Winthrop is basically "Stony Brook West Campus" and a certain number of students go over there to do the majority of their rotations, while the rest remain at Stony. This was put into place a couple years after I did my core rotations, so I have no idea how many actually go to Winthrop.

Originally, students had a choice between the following for core rotations:

Stony Brook University Hospital
Northport VA
Winthrop Hospital
Nassau University Medical Center
Flushing Hospital

Some students stayed at Stony and did everything there, while others, like myself, went all over the place. I liked moving from site to site and having to get used to different settings, as some of these hospitals were much different from each other (i.e. VA is military hospital for vets, NUMC is a community hospital, etc.). I believe now only a couple or so rotations are being offered at NUMC and Flushing.

I did Neurology, Pediatrics, Radiology, and Ambulatory Medicine (outpatient IM) rotations at Winthrop. Their pediatric specialty clinics are fantastic, patients come from all over the eastern seaboard. They have a great PICU and NICU there too (although the latter is mostly off limits to med students, but the chair gives lectures to med students in there).

Surgery and OBGYN are intense at Winthrop, with a ton of OR time (you can probably get more there than at Stony) and you get assigned a billion preceptors so you can really rack up some rec letters if you do well.

The only weird thing at Winthrop is their Internal Medicine. Since all the IM attendings at Winthrop are private, there are no attending rounds. They come in randomly during the day and write instructions in the chart and then the residents just carry out their orders. There may be rounds you do with the residents, but nothing where you work with attendings other than your preceptor. It's a strange way to educate both medical students and residents, but Winthrop claims it is a superior method...

This change in the clinical sites was one of many alterations made to the overall curriculum for medical students at Stony Brook, a massive overhaul that, unofficially, was catalyzed by the opening of Hofstra Medical School. Some of the changes were good, some bad, some were wayyyy overdue.
 
Is anyone else in this boat? I interviewed back in the beginning of February and I still haven't gotten a decision from Stony Brook. I called today and they said my application is still with the committee, and I should hear by the end of May. This seems unusually late, and I can't think of what the hold up might be.
 
I'm preparing to buy a number of items when I move to SB. Can some current SB student shed light on the usefulness of tablets and 4WD/AWD cars?

Does SB tend to rely heavily on digital materials (PDFs, powerpoint slides, etc.)? Anyone know how the audio/video streams work (flash, realmedia)? I'm wondering if it makes sense to get an ipad/android tablet for school. I'll have an older laptop, but if I can read notes/textbooks and watch video off a tablet, it would be more convenient to carry around. I know some schools (Cornell) are heavy on digital materials while others are heavy on printed materials.

I have to get a car when I move to SB and I'm not sure it's recommended to get a car with 4WD/AWD. Does SB tend to get much more snow than NYC? And how's the clean up? I'll get better gas mileage on FWD sedans, but if it gets slick there, AWD might make sense.
 
Long Island is part of the Atlantic Coastal Plain if I remember basic geography; as such, there really aren't any hills to speak of. I can confirm this after visiting the school twice.


Southern NY rarely get a lot of snow. Last year was decent, this year was dead. Growing up in NY, it is gradually snowing less and less and it is gradually warming more and more.

Could there be a benefit to AWD, sure, but if it means a premium in price then you really do not need it.

There isn't a lot of parking at Stony Brook, at least that is what the students told me. Since parking is at a premium, they've developed a car pool system among the students. Apparently the whole parking pass system isn't run very well.

School's I've been to that require a laptop like University of Vermont, said a tablet just isn't powerful or useful enough in their opinions.

I have no idea about the audio/video codecs or whether stony brook relied heavy or online materials. I wouldn't put them in the class of Einstein as far as how much they pump their all online curriculum.
 
I'm preparing to buy a number of items when I move to SB. Can some current SB student shed light on the usefulness of tablets and 4WD/AWD cars?

Does SB tend to rely heavily on digital materials (PDFs, powerpoint slides, etc.)? Anyone know how the audio/video streams work (flash, realmedia)? I'm wondering if it makes sense to get an ipad/android tablet for school. I'll have an older laptop, but if I can read notes/textbooks and watch video off a tablet, it would be more convenient to carry around. I know some schools (Cornell) are heavy on digital materials while others are heavy on printed materials.

I have to get a car when I move to SB and I'm not sure it's recommended to get a car with 4WD/AWD. Does SB tend to get much more snow than NYC? And how's the clean up? I'll get better gas mileage on FWD sedans, but if it gets slick there, AWD might make sense.
I went to SB as an undergrad - I had a 2010 Toyota Corolla while I was there and I never had any problems. They get a decent amount of snow during the winter but they are pretty good with the cleanup.
 
I'm preparing to buy a number of items when I move to SB. Can some current SB student shed light on the usefulness of tablets and 4WD/AWD cars?

Does SB tend to rely heavily on digital materials (PDFs, powerpoint slides, etc.)? Anyone know how the audio/video streams work (flash, realmedia)? I'm wondering if it makes sense to get an ipad/android tablet for school. I'll have an older laptop, but if I can read notes/textbooks and watch video off a tablet, it would be more convenient to carry around. I know some schools (Cornell) are heavy on digital materials while others are heavy on printed materials.

I have to get a car when I move to SB and I'm not sure it's recommended to get a car with 4WD/AWD. Does SB tend to get much more snow than NYC? And how's the clean up? I'll get better gas mileage on FWD sedans, but if it gets slick there, AWD might make sense.

4WD/AWD is not necessary, especially if it comes at the cost of good gas mileage. snowfall this past winter was minimal and otherwise is manageable with a FWD car.

You will hardly get any printed materials so i guess SB technically relies heavily on digital materials, but if you have a reliable relatively modern computer that can handle browsing the internet you should be fine with looking at PDFs and powerpoint slides. Video streams are in flash. pretty standard player.

having a tablet is in no way necessary. i'm sure u'll find a use for it but you can certainly get by just fine without it. you also get a very generous print quota in case you don't want to read something on your computer screen
 
I haven't heard anything, looking at last two years threads the first posts about waitlist movement were around the 18th or 19th, so it could be a few days before the shuffle settles and they decide who to offer admission to.
 
Does SB tend to rely heavily on digital materials (PDFs, powerpoint slides, etc.)?
Depends. If you actually go to class, you can either follow along powerpoints on your laptop or print them out in the computer lab ahead of time.

If you don't go to class, which nearly all people eventually end up in this boat, you will need to be able to access PDF, PPT, and DOC files, the latter being transcripts.

Anyone know how the audio/video streams work (flash, realmedia)? I'm wondering if it makes sense to get an ipad/android tablet for school. I'll have an older laptop, but if I can read notes/textbooks and watch video off a tablet, it would be more convenient to carry around. I know some schools (Cornell) are heavy on digital materials while others are heavy on printed materials.
They didn't video the lectures when I was there... wow good for them.

I have to get a car when I move to SB and I'm not sure it's recommended to get a car with 4WD/AWD. Does SB tend to get much more snow than NYC? And how's the clean up? I'll get better gas mileage on FWD sedans, but if it gets slick there, AWD might make sense.
The clean up depends. If you have a year where snow really comes down, if you live in a house that's off the main roads you will probably be ok. If takes a few turns down small roads to get to where you live, you might have to drive slow/dig yoruself out a few times to get out onto the main road safely.

The only time snow would be a real big issue is if you for some reason had to go to the Northport VA. Lots of hills and small roads to get to the secluded VA, can get a little dangerous. Flipside is if you do a rotation there, you can get free temporary housing for the duration of your rotation on the VA campus.
 
you also get a very generous print quota in case you don't want to read something on your computer screen

something like 14 bucks per week. to print a page is 5 cents.

i never read off my laptop screen the few times i went to lecture. too tempting to surf the net, always printed everything.
 
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A couple things-

Printing is never a problem. You get a $14.00 allowance every week, get 5 cents per page at the library, and there is "free", unlimited printing in the medical student lounge (although technically funds paid to note service go to the maintenance of those printers).

I-Pad- I have one and i absolutely love it. I personally think it is great for med school. Everything at SB is digitized, so I avoid having to waste paper and I don't have to lug any text books around- they're all on my ipad. There are plenty of programs that allow you to annotate lectures. This is coming from someone who was hardcore about only writing notes in hard copy from undergrad. It's a waste of time in med school to take notes on paper- the lectures go too fast. It is an investment, however, because you do need to have a computer in addition to the IPad. Also, there is a way to watch lecture videos on the Ipad, but I don't remember exactly how that is done.

Winthrop- there is still student housing. Word on the street is that it is cheap and desirable.

Okay, that is all.
 
Is anyone who interviewed still waiting on a decision? Have they actually been sending out post-interview rejections, or do they wait and do them all in one batch at the end of May?
 
Just sort of answered my own question. Got an email today for HPWL. SO pumped!
 
Congrats! The last two years in a row everyone on the HPWL got accepted, and last year there were only 12 ppl on the list, so hopefully that means our odds are good. Good luck!
 
I-Pad- I have one and i absolutely love it. I personally think it is great for med school. Everything at SB is digitized, so I avoid having to waste paper and I don't have to lug any text books around- they're all on my ipad. There are plenty of programs that allow you to annotate lectures. This is coming from someone who was hardcore about only writing notes in hard copy from undergrad. It's a waste of time in med school to take notes on paper- the lectures go too fast. It is an investment, however, because you do need to have a computer in addition to the IPad. Also, there is a way to watch lecture videos on the Ipad, but I don't remember exactly how that is done.

Can you mention some of the programs you use at SB with your Ipad? Thanks!
 
there's no housing at the VA.

They took that away?? Wow that blows. VA housing was nice compared to the old horrible dorms at Winthrop. There were also exchange students from Germany and France who would stay there and it was interesting to meet people who go to medical school in other countries.

I was too late for Winthrop's new housing but their old housing was like 4 people in a suite, no a/c, dirty, filled with broken furniture, etc.
 
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Can you mention some of the programs you use at SB with your Ipad? Thanks!

I'm not at SBU but I have heard of a lot of medical students using Goodreader, I use it for research and undergrad classes and I findit rally useful but I have heard med students use it for storing and annotating the tons of notes and images they get. Also I am planning on getting a stylus, my friend has one and it makes writing and drawing way easier
 
I was too late for Winthrop's new housing but their old housing was like 4 people in a suite, no a/c, dirty, filled with broken furniture, etc.

i heard one of the buildings they were using for free student housing got condemned or something ....that's only rumor though

the housing they're giving the students participating in their clinical campus used to be resident housing and it's very nice and cheap (because it's subsidized)
 
I'm not at SBU but I have heard of a lot of medical students using Goodreader, I use it for research and undergrad classes and I findit rally useful but I have heard med students use it for storing and annotating the tons of notes and images they get. Also I am planning on getting a stylus, my friend has one and it makes writing and drawing way easier

Thanks! I was planning on getting a stylus too.
 
I'm surprised it's so quiet, I was expecting to hear about some wait list movement by now.
 
I'm surprised it's so quiet, I was expecting to hear about some wait list movement by now.

Agreed. They did say late-May or early-June, but based on last year, there should've been some sort of movement by now it seems.
 
Originally Posted by LieutenantDan
Yeah they did:

"I am writing to inform you of the status of your candidacy for Stony Brook University School of Medicine. You are one of a select group of individuals (High Priority Wait List) whose candidacy generated a great deal of enthusiasm with the Committee on Admissions. However, at this point in time, we have accepted significantly more applicants than available seats. We anticipate that by May 15, 2012, some of the multiply accepted candidates may withdraw their acceptance to Stony Brook. As those seats become available, we will likely be making offers to those on the High Priority Wait List. Please let us know by May 4th whether you are still interested in attending Stony Brook and want to be considered for the High Priority Wait List."



It sounds like they did indeed over accept.
 
I'm not sure if the situation is much different from last year, this is the HPWL email they sent in 2011 (from last years thread)

"I am writing to inform you of the status of your candidacy for Stony Brook University School of Medicine. You are one of a select group of individuals (High Priority List) whose candidacy generated a great deal of enthusiasm with the Committee on Admissions. However, at this point in time, we have accepted significantly more applicants than available seats. We anticipate that by May 15, 2011, some of the multiply accepted candidates may withdraw their acceptance to Stony Brook. As those seats become available, we will likely be making offers to those on the High Priority List. Please let us know by May 1st whether you are still interested in attending Stony Brook and want to be considered for the High Priority List.


Jack Fuhrer, MD
Associate Dean for Admissions
Stony Brook University School of Medicine"
 
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