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They've said they don't interview for the waitlist. Congrats on the II!
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
They've said they don't interview for the waitlist. Congrats on the II!
Got my financial aid package today... Disappointing. :/ They didn't even cover the whole cost of attendance, and I already got 45K in loans from them. Will be withdrawing, so good luck to everyone waiting!
That's too bad! Was this by email or, er, mail-mail?
Seriously, especially after what happened several weeks ago. Congrats on your acceptance though!!Accepted today. If this is an April Fools joke, not funny.
Seriously, especially after what happened several weeks ago. Congrats on your acceptance though!!
Congrats! What date did you interview and mind providing your stats?Accepted today. If this is an April Fools joke, not funny.
Congrats! What date did you interview and mind providing your stats?
Why the heck is all my "eye" (Phonectic India letter) changing to "me" and all my "ams" changing to "are". What is going on here? It's happening post submit and even in private convos.
Example: me are going crazy.
What's today's date? ... Exactly.
this is awesome. me was worreid me got a computer virus. Geez - it's even making me mispell worreid.
It also apparently changes "awesome thing" to "awesome thing."
anyone know when the start date/first day of orientation is? in case I am fortunate enough to be accepted, I want to make sure I'm back from traveling by then
Anyone have a Dartmouth match list I can see? I should have taken pictures during interview day but did not. Can't find it anywhere online.
I'm in my last year at Dartmouth/Geisel, about to head off for residency, and I'm happy to answer any questions. If you guys are really interested I can post a de-identified match list (I'll just have to make one). Let me know.
@physicsnerd42, are you happy with your personal match results?
I've heard rumors about financial difficulties and high faculty turnover at Geisel. I'm not sure if these are true, and, if they are, whether they have any real impact on the education students receive. Have you experienced the effects any of these issues in your time there? Do you foresee them being problematic in the coming years?I'm in my last year at Dartmouth/Geisel, about to head off for residency, and I'm happy to answer any questions. If you guys are really interested I can post a de-identified match list (I'll just have to make one). Let me know.
Yup, me too :/+1 complete end of September.
And I just received the rejection email.
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I've heard rumors about financial difficulties and high faculty turnover at Geisel. I'm not sure if these are true, and, if they are, whether they have any real impact on the education students receive. Have you experienced the effects any of these issues in your time there? Do you foresee them being problematic in the coming years?
I'm currently waitlisted but on the (very very) slim chance I get off the list I want to be as informed as possible. Thanks!
I've heard rumors about financial difficulties and high faculty turnover at Geisel.
Thank you for your very detailed and sincere responses! I feel like I now have a much better understanding of the situation.Sorry, I missed half your question. I don't think the faculty turnover has been especially high here. At every institution you will have faculty leaving for other places and new faculty coming in. I actually think some amount of "churn" is good because it introduces new people and ideas to an institution. My impression is that there has been more turnover on the research side than the clinical side, which is not really surprising because of the situation at the NIH.
As a MD/PhD student, I have some concern any time we lose a senior, well-funded investigator (and am glad any time we attract well-funded investigators). As a medical student, I think the clinical side should be more concerning to you. I honestly don't feel like my clinical training has suffered because of faculty turnover.
Sorry, I missed half your question. I don't think the faculty turnover has been especially high here. At every institution you will have faculty leaving for other places and new faculty coming in. I actually think some amount of "churn" is good because it introduces new people and ideas to an institution. My impression is that there has been more turnover on the research side than the clinical side, which is not really surprising because of the situation at the NIH.
As a MD/PhD student, I have some concern any time we lose a senior, well-funded investigator (and am glad any time we attract well-funded investigators). As a medical student, I think the clinical side should be more concerning to you. I honestly don't feel like my clinical training has suffered because of faculty turnover.
Can I ask what you mean by generous? I was happy to see that i received a large grant, but surprised that the package didn't cover full cost of attendance. With the grant plus the loans they awarded my aid comes to 60K, pretty far off from the 76K sticker price! Then again, my family is low income so I was anticipating getting grant to cover everything but the 35K unit loan they mentioned on interview day....?
Can I ask what you mean by generous? I was happy to see that i received a large grant, but surprised that the package didn't cover full cost of attendance. With the grant plus the loans they awarded my aid comes to 60K, pretty far off from the 76K sticker price! Then again, my family is low income so I was anticipating getting grant to cover everything but the 35K unit loan they mentioned on interview day....?
Same here!
I have zero EFC at every other school and I have taking out 46k in loans. Its a joke. What is their unit loan?
So what recourse does that leave for covering living expenses? Private loans???
Private loans, no, but additional institutional loans, unsubsidized Stafford loans, and, if necessary, Grad Plus loans, yes.
In talking with others about this, the understanding I've come to is that if Geisel offers you a financial aid package of loans and scholarships totaling $60,000, and the cost of attendance is $76,000, they want you and your family to TRY to come up with money to cover the $16,000 shortfall. If you can't, you're expected to contact the office of financial aid so they can expand your loan options. In theory, they will offer you additional institutional loans first, before pointing you toward additional Stafford and Grad Plus money, since the institutional loans are lower-interest and may be subsidized. Remember, also, that not all students will end up needing the entire $76,000, since living expenses can vary a bit.
This practice is somewhat unusual among medical schools that I've seen - Most places will happily give out loans up to the cost of attendance in the initial financial aid package and leave it to the student to decide how much of the loan to decline, where Geisel wants you to ask them for more money before they dole it out.
(Disclaimer: Haven't gone through the process of asking for more loan money myself, but this is what I've been told by other SDN users who PMed me to ask about my financial aid award.)
I don't understand what you are saying here, but I am curious to know the details.
<- Waitlisted, not expecting any movement before May 15thAny wait-list movement? any hope? any acceptances?
Can I ask what you mean by generous? I was happy to see that i received a large grant, but surprised that the package didn't cover full cost of attendance. With the grant plus the loans they awarded my aid comes to 60K, pretty far off from the 76K sticker price! Then again, my family is low income so I was anticipating getting grant to cover everything but the 35K unit loan they mentioned on interview day....?
If you don't mind me asking, were you just waitlisted today? I still have not received any post-interview decision.... and it's been about 7 months<- Waitlisted, not expecting any movement before May 15th
That's a long time pDeluxe!!! I don't know about bofocion, but I was waitlisted in late march, 4 months post interview.... I hope you hear something soon pDeluxe...!If you don't mind me asking, were you just waitlisted today? I still have not received any post-interview decision.... and it's been about 7 months
Thanks, I hope so too! I was reading last year's thread and someone said that everyone hears a decision by mid-April. Of course, their last interview day was late March last year, but I think they went into April this year.That's a long time pDeluxe!!! I don't know about bofocion, but I was waitlisted in late march, 4 months post interview.... I hope you hear something soon pDeluxe...!