2015-2016 Rosalind Franklin University Application Thread

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Waitlisted as well. Haven't seen anyone get an acceptance on this forum topic within the past 2 months. Will stay positive though. I'm sure we'll see movement within the next month or so.


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I wonder if this is a way to give the people who interview later just as good of a chance as the people who interviewed earlier, which, in itself, is not a bad idea.
 
bunchesonothing said:
I wonder if this is a way to give the people who interview later just as good of a chance as the people who interviewed earlier, which, in itself, is not a bad idea.
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This may make sense since there's still so many interview dates remaining in the cycle. I'm confident that many of us that received waitlist decisions today are more than qualified and that if they were to give out many acceptances today, then the people interviewing later would be going for almost non-existent spots.


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Nextasy said:
This may make sense since there's still so many interview dates remaining in the cycle. I'm confident that many of us that received waitlist decisions today are more than qualified and that if they were to give out many acceptances today, then the people interviewing later would be going for almost non-existent spots.


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Yeah, this may just be more indicative of a very different approach to admissions than other schools.
 
bunchesonothing said:
I wonder if this is a way to give the people who interview later just as good of a chance as the people who interviewed earlier, which, in itself, is not a bad idea.
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This could be true, but then why still call it "rolling admissions?" Frustrating!

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Waitlisted as well. Haven't seen anyone get an acceptance on this forum topic within the past 2 months. Will stay positive though. I'm sure we'll see movement within the next month or so.

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I'm trying to stay optimistic too. 🙂
 
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This could be true, but then why still call it "rolling admissions?" Frustrating!



I'm trying to stay optimistic too. 🙂
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To get people to apply earlier? Don't know.

Also, them doing MMI is still fairly new. They could still be working out bugs... figuring out how to best do things from their end.

Right now, I'm of at a kind of que sera sera zen state.

Either way, finals week doth approach. 😛
 
Also waitlisted. That makes 4/4 waitlists... hoping for some luck in April.
 
If people were posting acceptances I would be more disappointed, but they're not. Nobody has posted an acceptance on SDN in over two months. I'm also incredibly desensitized to rejection after all this so I've got that going for me.

Here's what we know for sure: the Facebook group only has 112 members. They have to accept 80 more people at a bare minimum, probably more. Nearly half of their class still needs to be filled. On March 15, I believe that schools can see where you have also been accepted, so I would expect some modicum of movement at that point from the waitlist.

Also, somebody I know in real life got waitlisted too.
 
Guys, I think we probably got waitlisted because we haven't proven our worth by sending more LOI.


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RFU is interesting as in their alternate list letter, they specifically indicate that they cannot accept any materials unless its something bad. "Please note we cannot accept any additional information or materials for your file, unless it concerns an Institutional Action, Felony, Misdemeanor or Military Discharge." Not sure if that is just a way for them to discourage only the most determined from sending a letter.
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Dude, it's their way of discouraging EVERYONE from sending a letter.


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bananafish94 said:
If people were posting acceptances I would be more disappointed, but they're not. Nobody has posted an acceptance on SDN in over two months. I'm also incredibly desensitized to rejection after all this so I've got that going for me.

Here's what we know for sure: the Facebook group only has 112 members. They have to accept 80 more people at a bare minimum, probably more. Nearly half of their class still needs to be filled. On March 15, I believe that schools can see where you have also been accepted, so I would expect some modicum of movement at that point from the waitlist.

Also, somebody I know in real life got waitlisted too.
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What's the name of the Fb group
 
Do you guys think they are literally waitlisting everyone? I know that not everybody posts on SDN, but for not a single acceptance to be posted over the course of two decision releases in two months is a little strange.
 
bananafish94 said:
If people were posting acceptances I would be more disappointed, but they're not. Nobody has posted an acceptance on SDN in over two months. I'm also incredibly desensitized to rejection after all this so I've got that going for me.

Here's what we know for sure: the Facebook group only has 112 members. They have to accept 80 more people at a bare minimum, probably more. Nearly half of their class still needs to be filled. On March 15, I believe that schools can see where you have also been accepted, so I would expect some modicum of movement at that point from the waitlist.

Also, somebody I know in real life got waitlisted too.
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Also, don't schools have to accept a number equivalent to their entering class by March 15?
 
bananafish94 said:
Do you guys think they are literally waitlisting everyone? I know that not everybody posts on SDN, but for not a single acceptance to be posted over the course of two decision releases in two months is a little strange.
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The large sample size of the number of people who have posted here regarding being waitlisted combined with no one posting about receiving an acceptance the past two months makes it seem highly likely that they are waitlisting most, if not, everyone. Of course, the people who have posted aren't representative of the applicant pool as a whole, but usually people who receive acceptances are more than happy and exuberant to share their good fortunes on SDN. The fact that no one has shared an acceptance seems like CMS will be moving many people off of the waitlist in the coming months.


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I'm also curious if anyone has received a "decision on hold" email rather than a waitlisted decision? I say this because in last year's cycle around this time, many applicants were placed "on hold" post interview rather than being put on the waitlist.


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Nextasy said:
I'm also curious if anyone has received a "decision on hold" email rather than a waitlisted decision? I say this because in last year's cycle around this time, many applicants were placed "on hold" post interview rather than being put on the waitlist.


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I don't know. Does the accepted student stats on the MSAR include waitlisted applicants? If so, there might be incentive to waitlist many before the acceptances report shakes things up and clarifies things for them a bit. Might result in a stats boost for the school, encouraging strong applicants for future classes. This is the pragmatist in me thinking, though... not based on anything more than speculation.
 
Nextasy said:
I'm also curious if anyone has received a "decision on hold" email rather than a waitlisted decision? I say this because in last year's cycle around this time, many applicants were placed "on hold" post interview rather than being put on the waitlist.


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I haven't seen any. What does hold mean?


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bunchesonothing said:
I don't know. Does the accepted student stats on the MSAR include waitlisted applicants? If so, there might be incentive to waitlist many before the acceptances report shakes things up and clarifies things for them a bit. Might result in a stats boost for the school, encouraging strong applicants for future classes. This is the pragmatist in me thinking, though... not based on anything more than speculation.
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Yes it does.


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Or maybe they don't have a handle on how the MMI affects things for them just yet. Or the MCAT scores made things weird for them this year. The new MSAR data with new MCAT data is interesting for all the schools I've looked at.

So many things could be happening.
 
bunchesonothing said:
Or maybe they don't have a handle on how the MMI affects things for them just yet. Or the MCAT scores made things weird for them this year. The new MSAR data with new MCAT data is interesting for all the schools I've looked at.

So many things could be happening.
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Exactly. I honestly don't think that receiving a waitlist at this point in the cycle this year is as negative or hopeless as receiving one in past years. The adcoms are still trying to figure things out and this may not be as "rolling" of a process as one may have originally thought.

On another note, it'd be great to be able to put a face to all of your user names at the white coat ceremony that I'm sure we'll all be attending. =D


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I interviewed on 1/8, was placed on hold (not alternate list) on 2/12 and was placed on the alternate list today.
 
So what do you all make of the alternate lists? Do you think it's so they can see where else everyone on the AL is accepted after March 15th, allowing them to make more informed admissions decisions?
 
bananafish94 said:
So what do you all make of the alternate lists? Do you think it's so they can see where else everyone on the AL is accepted after March 15th, allowing them to make more informed admissions decisions?
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Yes I believe this is the case. It appears that CMS hasn't offered as many acceptances up to this point in the cycle as they did last year and are waiting until March 15th to access our acceptance profiles. There will likely be some alternate list movement after that date.


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Yes I believe this is the case. It appears that CMS hasn't offered as many acceptances up to this point in the cycle as they did last year and are waiting until March 15th to access our acceptance profiles. There will likely be some alternate list movement after that date.


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So is the school more likely to accept someone who isn't holding any other acceptances?
 
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So is the school more likely to accept someone who isn't holding any other acceptances?
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For a "mid-tier" school like CMS, they don't have the luxury of playing the poaching game to the same degree as a higher tier medical school. Ideally, med schools would love to poach applicants who hold acceptances at other schools to improve the quality of their med school class, which is a game that many high tier med schools are highly successful at doing. However, most CMS applicants who hold acceptances at other programs end up accepting offers elsewhere, and it seems highly likely that CMS will be more inclined to offer acceptances to those students holding no acceptances OR are holding acceptances at lower tier programs. This in essence helps protect their yield.


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Nextasy said:
For a "mid-tier" school like CMS, they don't have the luxury of playing the poaching game to the same degree as a higher tier medical school. Ideally, med schools would love to poach applicants who hold acceptances at other schools to improve the quality of their med school class, which is a game that many high tier med schools are highly successful at doing. However, most CMS applicants who hold acceptances at other programs end up accepting offers elsewhere, and it seems highly likely that CMS will be more inclined to offer acceptances to those students holding no acceptances OR are holding acceptances at lower tier programs. This in essence helps protect their yield.


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Excellent. Time for me to come in for the scraps.
 
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I'm there with you bud!


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It's sort of a mixed bag...I'm glad that in a sense I have a slight advantage over those who already have acceptances. But on the other hand, waitlisting everybody basically allows them to pick exactly who they want, because they know who will definitely come. They are truly holding all the cards now. If there are 80 more spots to fill, they have the ability to extend only 80 acceptances, and they have done two months of interviews, so ~360 people since their last acceptance. I'm not sure I like those odds.
 
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It's sort of a mixed bag...I'm glad that in a sense I have a slight advantage over those who already have acceptances. But on the other hand, waitlisting everybody basically allows them to pick exactly who they want, because they know who will definitely come. They are truly holding all the cards now. If there are 80 more spots to fill, they have the ability to extend only 80 acceptances, and they have done two months of interviews, so ~360 people since their last acceptance. I'm not sure I like those odds.
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Your concerns definitely have merit. But also keep in mind that many of these ~360 interviewees may hold acceptances or are waitlisted at other programs, leading CMS to offer many more offers than the approximately 80 spots remaining. Mid-tier programs have historically offered approximately 2x the number of acceptances to available spots. If we extrapolate this to the 80 spots available, ~160 acceptances offered to the pool of 360 interviewees is still a pretty decent odd. Of course, this is all still speculation and not an exact science.


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Your concerns definitely have merit. But also keep in mind that many of these ~360 interviewees may hold acceptances at other programs, leading CMS to offer many more offers than the approximately 80 spots remaining. Mid-tier programs have historically offered 2x the number of acceptances to available spots. If we extrapolate this to the 80 spots available, ~160 acceptances offered to the pool of 360 interviewees is still a pretty decent odd.


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Those odds are great, I could live with that. The issue I have is that schools generally offer 2x more spots because they know some people won't go elsewhere. So I suppose the $64000 question is how many people that interviewed between January and March have acceptances elsewhere.
 
Nextasy said:
For a "mid-tier" school like CMS, they don't have the luxury of playing the poaching game to the same degree as a higher tier medical school. Ideally, med schools would love to poach applicants who hold acceptances at other schools to improve the quality of their med school class, which is a game that many high tier med schools are highly successful at doing. However, most CMS applicants who hold acceptances at other programs end up accepting offers elsewhere, and it seems highly likely that CMS will be more inclined to offer acceptances to those students holding no acceptances OR are holding acceptances at lower tier programs. This in essence helps protect their yield.


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I wouldn't called Rosalind Franklin a mid-tier school. I'm sure many of the students that attend Rosalind Franklin don't hold MD acceptances elsewhere.
 
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I wouldn't called Rosalind Franklin a mid-tier school. I'm sure many of the students that attend Rosalind Franklin don't hold MD acceptances elsewhere.
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What tier would you classify CMS as?


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bananafish94 said:
Those odds are great, I could live with that. The issue I have is that schools generally offer 2x more spots because they know some people won't go elsewhere. So I suppose the $64000 question is how many people that interviewed between January and March have acceptances elsewhere.
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And, it doesn't necessarily mean that those that don't have acceptances won't go somewhere else because they may be on waitlists elsewhere as well... just like you are. People can still be pulled from those. They have much of the information, but not all of it, at this point.
 
Was that document up-to-date, then? In that, I only read that the school has to accept a minimum of number of applicants=number in entering class by March 15th, not that they can see where everyone has admission on March 15th. Could someone tell me where it says schools can see that information on March 15th? I had heard May 1st from some others, but they weren't positive.
 
alfie94 said:
Was that document up-to-date, then? In that, I only read that the school has to accept a minimum of number of applicants=number in entering class by March 15th, not that they can see where everyone has admission on March 15th. Could someone tell me where it says schools can see that information on March 15th? I had heard May 1st from some others, but they weren't positive.
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On March 15, they are allowed to see the information for wait listed applicants.
 
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