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Is Duke-NUS a legit MD program, or should it be viewed with caution like some other international medical schools?
 
Would it be possible to use a failure essay for the disappointment essay? Or are there significant differences between overcoming failures and dealing with setbacks/disappointments?
 
DarkHeart5351 said:
Would it be possible to use a failure essay for the disappointment essay? Or are there significant differences between overcoming failures and dealing with setbacks/disappointments?
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A failure essay is usually a disappointment or setback too so should work!
 
nfetti said:
Does anyone know for the leadership essay what they mean when they ask what you value most? Do they mean pick either leadership, teamwork, or communication? Or pick anything?
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I interpreted it as picking what type of quality/attribute you value most.
 
did anyone else find their responses to some of these prompts somewhat bland? you would think having so much space would make for unique writing, but their questions' phrasing really did not make for fun storytelling.
 
Anyone have any good ideas for what a humbling experience could be?
 
sunshinee97 said:
Anyone have any good ideas for what a humbling experience could be?
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I personally drafted one about watching a young mother die in the OR. Said it humbled me because I realized how fragile humans could be and how we actually like... die lol. Idk, just going through life you know death exists but it's something else to see it happen live.
 
genghis99 said:
I personally drafted one about watching a young mother die in the OR. Said it humbled me because I realized how fragile humans could be and how we actually like... die lol. Idk, just going through life you know death exists but it's something else to see it happen live.
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Thank you, I ended up going with something similar like seeing an open casket for the first time
 
Are you guys using all 400 words for some of the prompts? Is it okay if I only use 200 for one of them or will that come across as lazy
 
How long did it take for you guys to be complete? It still says my application is incomplete. I had a LOR submitted yesterday which may be the reason for the delay?
 
I have not received my secondaries yet. I was transmitted on the first day AMCAS opened. Did I get screened?
 
iia said:
I have not received my secondaries yet. I was transmitted on the first day AMCAS opened. Did I get screened?
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I dont think they screen. I would check your spam/promotions and maybe check with Duke just to be safe. Its been about 2 weeks since most people who were verified before transmission got the secondary.
 
It’s almost midnight and I am taking a 30 minute “Totino’s pizza rolls, Hostess Chocolate frosted mini doughnuts, and Lemon lime Powerade,” break midway into this secondary and I just burned my tongue on lava hot pizza goo but two weeks is in 3 days and I hate everything in my life that has brought me to this moment.

So how is your day going?
 
2021-2022-NonTrad said:
It’s almost midnight and I am taking a 30 minute “Totino’s pizza rolls, Hostess Chocolate frosted mini doughnuts, and Lemon lime Powerade,” break midway into this secondary and I just burned my tongue on lava hot pizza goo but two weeks is in 3 days and I hate everything in my life that has brought me to this moment.

So how is your day going?
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I'm editing my secondaries and wondering how I made it past 4th-grade English.
 
2021-2022-NonTrad said:
It’s almost midnight and I am taking a 30 minute “Totino’s pizza rolls, Hostess Chocolate frosted mini doughnuts, and Lemon lime Powerade,” break midway into this secondary and I just burned my tongue on lava hot pizza goo but two weeks is in 3 days and I hate everything in my life that has brought me to this moment.

So how is your day going?
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There is no hard two week deadline for this secondary, correct? I think I'm going to go over by a few days
 
2021-2022-NonTrad said:
It’s almost midnight and I am taking a 30 minute “Totino’s pizza rolls, Hostess Chocolate frosted mini doughnuts, and Lemon lime Powerade,” break midway into this secondary and I just burned my tongue on lava hot pizza goo but two weeks is in 3 days and I hate everything in my life that has brought me to this moment.

So how is your day going?
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At least you're taking care of yourself and eating right. :laugh:
 
Did anyone also not get a confirmation email after submitting their secondary?
 
mywayhighway59 said:
I noticed that there was a second pseudo-diversity essay hidden in the supplement that is optional.

"In addition to the broad categorization of race, ethnicity, geographic origin, socioeconomic status as provided through your AMCAS application, you may use the text box below to provide additional clarifying information that may reflect the impact of any of these parameters on your development thus far as well as the impact that these may have had on your path to a career in medicine and your plans for the future. (200 words)"

I was wondering if most people are filling this out or just sticking with the 500 word required diversity essay that was asked earlier in the app?
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I filled it out to give extra detail/context regarding low SES.
 
Does anyone know if you'll be considered for regular MD if you're not accepted to the Primary Care Leadership Track (PCLT) program?
 
jgin845 said:
Does anyone know if you'll be considered for regular MD if you're not accepted to the Primary Care Leadership Track (PCLT) program?
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I believe so. In their FAQ, they wrote: "All PCLT applicants will be considered for the traditional MD track if not considered by the PCLT program."

Admissions FAQs | Duke University School of Medicine

Grading: For the upcoming admissions cycle (2026) we will accept courses on a Pass/Fail, Pass/No Pass, and Satisfactory/Unsatisfactory basis. In addition, Duke will also accept online courses. We prefer, however, that science and laboratory classes are conducted in person and for a letter grade.
medschool.duke.edu medschool.duke.edu
 
Any thoughts on if it's still worth submitting a secondary if it's been 4-ish weeks since I received it? Trying to recover from burnout but not sure if it's worth the money since it's late
 
Determinedderm said:
How long did it take for you guys to be complete? It still says my application is incomplete. I had a LOR submitted yesterday which may be the reason for the delay?
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My app was complete about 12 hours after my LORs got submitted
 
mywayhighway59 said:
I'm actually curious if the Interview Invite rate they put on MSAR is out of the people who submitted primaries or out of the people who actually submitted secondaries? If it's only for completed primaries, the II + acceptance rates might be higher since we're no longer including the people who didn't finish.
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It's hilarious how many people don't do the secondary. I think it's like 600 IIs out of 4000-something completed applications.
 
When reading the two diversity questions, they seemed different, but in trying to formulate a response, they almost completely overlap for me. Any ideas on exactly how these questions should be answered differently from each other? What kind of things would be addressed in the second question that weren't already addressed in the first? Do I just state my identity in #1 or can I also discuss how it impacted me? (I saw someone mentioned low SES impact for the second, but I already discussed it in the first. Also, I know the second is optional, but I don't want to answer the first question incorrectly only to skip over the second) Thanks!

1. Tell us more about who you are. You may provide additional information that expands your self-identity where gender identification, racial and/or ethnic self description, geographic origin, socioeconomic, academic, and/or other characteristics that define who you are as you contemplate a career that will interface with people who are similar AND dissimilar to you. You will have the opportunity below to tell us how you wish to be addressed, recognized and treated.

2. In addition to the broad categorization of race, ethnicity, geographic origin, socioeconomic status as provided through your AMCAS application, you may use the text box below to provide additional clarifying information that may reflect the impact of any of these parameters on your development thus far as well as the impact that these may have had on your path to a career in medicine and your plans for the future.
 
the_yerd_bird said:
When reading the two diversity questions, they seemed different, but in trying to formulate a response, they almost completely overlap for me. Any ideas on exactly how these questions should be answered differently from each other? What kind of things would be addressed in the second question that weren't already addressed in the first? Do I just state my identity in #1 or can I also discuss how it impacted me? (I saw someone mentioned low SES impact for the second, but I already discussed it in the first. Also, I know the second is optional, but I don't want to answer the first question incorrectly only to skip over the second) Thanks!

1. Tell us more about who you are. You may provide additional information that expands your self-identity where gender identification, racial and/or ethnic self description, geographic origin, socioeconomic, academic, and/or other characteristics that define who you are as you contemplate a career that will interface with people who are similar AND dissimilar to you. You will have the opportunity below to tell us how you wish to be addressed, recognized and treated.

2. In addition to the broad categorization of race, ethnicity, geographic origin, socioeconomic status as provided through your AMCAS application, you may use the text box below to provide additional clarifying information that may reflect the impact of any of these parameters on your development thus far as well as the impact that these may have had on your path to a career in medicine and your plans for the future.
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Low SES was part of my discussion for the first prompt (with other aspects also tied in), and then for the second prompt, I go into further detail on low SES and the different educational environments I had growing up (and how this was related to the disparities in educational resources I saw in different populations in the community).
 
doctorhalstead said:
I feel like we should all get a II just for completing that monster of a secondary lol
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This is going on my list of achievements lol something to tell my future grandkids about how I had to write a novel for Duke. Wonder what sort of application hoops they’ll have to jump through then 😳
 
star-lily said:
If you go based off the 2019-2020 thread, they started on 8/6... maybe we'll end up smack in the middle of that and 2020-2021? 😅
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I was just (slightly neurotically) looking at Duke's website and saw they said their goal is to start II by late August! So I guess that's anywhere between now and about two weeks from now if that's what ends up happening
 
I listened to a podcast lately with the dean of admissions as a guest. They have more apps at this point that normal so I guess they’re just trying hard to get through them all. Each application is read by 3 different people

[edit] the podcast is Admissions Straight Talk if anyone wants to listen.
 
greysloan03 said:
I listened to a podcast lately with the dean of admissions as a guest. They have more apps at this point that normal so I guess they’re just trying hard to get through them all. Each application is read by 3 different people
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Can you share a link? Thanks!
 
greysloan03 said:
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Relevant secondary evaluation info for those interested:

8/5/2018: DukeMed had 1100 completed secondaries
8/5/2021: DukeMed had 2150 completed secondaries

-They focus more on experiences and essays, with an emphasis on "investment in others"
-Each application is read by 3 raters, and all 3 have to agree to interview for the applicant to be interviewed
 
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