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Hey everyone! I totally didn't expect to get an II on a weekend, but I had one come in about an hour and a half ago. I submitted my secondary on 7/31. LM 70.1. No days off I guess šŸ˜¤
what does LM mean and what does the number represent?

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People forget what I said. No need for this debate.
If you look in the grand scheme of things URM are still under represented in medicine and make up less than 10% of medical school classes. Do you want it to be even less? Because if they did not take that into consideration that is what will happen. Let me reiterate that diversity is very important in healthcare because physicians can better relate to patients with whom they share a common or similar culture and vice versa.
 
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If anyone needed the motivation to finish their Duke secondary, here it is...
I just submitted mine and you can too! (I feel like I have accomplished something) :lol:
 
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If anyone needed the motivation to finish their Duke secondary, here it is...
I just submitted mine and you can too! (I feel like I have accomplished something) :lol:
I would BUT just got my MCAT score and itā€™s below their minimum. Not sure I should bother with the time to finish it. I started it because I thought I would do better than I did. Thought?
 
I would BUT just got my MCAT score and itā€™s below their minimum. Not sure I should bother with the time to finish it. I started it because I thought I would do better than I did. Thought?
They donā€™t have a minimum MCAT score to my knowledge. They seem to interview and accept people with a wide range of MCAT scores.
Look at their admissions stats from last year.

 
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I would BUT just got my MCAT score and itā€™s below their minimum. Not sure I should bother with the time to finish it. I started it because I thought I would do better than I did. Thought?
I talked to the Duke Admissions Dean, and she told me that Duke has a 3 tier MCAT evaulation process. All score above 510 are treated equally. Scores between 500 and 510 are flagged as a point of concern, and scores below 500 are flagged as a major concern. Personally, I would not apply to Duke if I got a 510 or below. Otherwise, I would apply.
 
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I talked to the Duke Admissions Dean, and she told me that Duke has a 3 tier MCAT evaulation process. All score above 510 are treated equally. Scores between 500 and 510 are flagged as a point of concern, and scores below 500 are flagged as a major concern. Personally, I would not apply to Duke if I got a 510 or below. Otherwise, I would apply.
And you believed her?
Lmao
"All scores above 510 are treated equally"
Lmao
That's just PR
 
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And you believed her?
Lmao
"All scores above 510 are treated equally"
Lmao
That's just PR
Honestly, I didn't. @KnightDoc convinced me otherwise when I posted about it earlier. To be honest, now I do a little bit more. Duke doesn't even consider MCAT at time of interviewing, and their MCAT average isn't absurdly high (compared to similarly ranked schools), so it makes sense. They repeatedly emphasize that they place less weight on MCAT than other similarly ranked schools many times throughout the application process.

Either way, it isn't really a concern for me (52X), so don't interpret this as me trying to rationalize my score or something. However, given the Dean's comment, I would apply if your score is 510+, regardless of how true her comment actually is, as there is a chance it could be true.
 
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Honestly, I didn't. @KnightDoc convinced me otherwise when I posted about it earlier. To be honest, now I do a little bit more. Duke doesn't even consider MCAT at time of interviewing, and their MCAT average isn't absurdly high (compared to similarly ranked schools), so it makes sense. They repeatedly emphasize that they place less weight on MCAT than other similarly ranked schools many times throughout the application process.

Either way, it isn't really a concern for me (52X), so don't interpret this as me trying to rationalize my score or something. However, given the Dean's comment, I would apply if your score is 510+, regardless of how true her comment actually is, as there is a chance it could be true.
This^^^^. At the end of the day, it's a tippy top with a 10%-ile of 511. There is no reason not to take the dean at her word. It's a great school that attracts great candidates, many of whom have great MCAT scores. That said, if the dean was full of crap, their median could certainly be a few points higher, and their 10%-ile certainly would be -- at Penn it's 518, at WashU it's 516, and at NYU it's 517!
 
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This^^^^. At the end of the day, it's a tippy top with a 10%-ile of 511. There is no reason not to take the dean at her word. It's a great school that attracts great candidates, many of whom have great MCAT scores. That said, if the dean was full of crap, their median could certainly be a few points higher, and their 10%-ile certainly would be -- at Penn it's 518, at WashU it's 516, and at NYU it's 517!
Wow, I didn't even realize that. That makes it even more likely the Dean was not lying- the 10th percentile is literally at the cutoff she specified.
 
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Are yā€™all saying with my score of <500 I should just forget about finishing the secondary? Honestly everything else about my App is excellent. Iā€™m NOT looking for them to pity me. Just want to know if Iā€™ll be considered at all enough for my app to speak for itself. Iā€™m conflicted.
 
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Are yā€™all saying with my score of <500 I should just forget about finishing the secondary? Honestly everything else about my App is excellent. Iā€™m looking for them to pity me. Just want to know if Iā€™ll be considered at all enough for my app to speak for itself. Iā€™m conflicted.
Unless your application is completely insane in terms of ECs, you're probably better off saving your money.
 
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Unless your application is completely insane in terms of ECs, you're probably better off saving your money.
Honestly, I think even if your application is insane in terms of ECs, you're still better off not applying. Duke's lowest accepted MCAT last year was 505, and their lowest interview was about 500 or 501 or something. That said, this year they don't plan on using MCAT for interviews (unlike last year), but they do plan on using MCAT for acceptances still. So even if your application is great enough for an interview, it's extremely unlikely you will be accepted.

Also, just a side bit of advice. Last year, I applied with little to no clinical experiences. The rest of my ECs were excellent. I still received a few interviews, but I knew if I had clinicals, I would do substantially better. Rather than get accepted to a school I would not be happy with (along with a family crisis that made me want to delay med school matriculation), I chose to withdraw from all medical schools that gave me interviews prior to decision and reapply this year. I am getting many more interviews from higher ranked schools much earlier in the cycle this time around. I know two people that did the same as me, and got into top schools the next cycle.

Your MCAT will prove a major barrier for you getting into top colleges and will strongly limit your potential scholarships, if your ECs and GPA are on par with T5 school. Personally, I would recommend withdrawing from this cycle and reapplying next cycle with a much higher MCAT score if you believe you are capable of achieving it. Even if you don't want to go to a top school, you might get a massive scholarship from schools a tier down.

Out of curiosity, though, what are these ECs?
 
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Honestly, I think even if your application is insane in terms of ECs, you're still better off not applying. Duke's lowest accepted MCAT last year was 505, and their lowest interview was about 500 or 501 or something. That said, this year they don't plan on using MCAT for interviews (unlike last year), but they do plan on using MCAT for acceptances still. So even if your application is great enough for an interview, it's extremely unlikely you will be accepted.

Also, just a side bit of advice. Last year, I applied with little to no clinical experiences. The rest of my ECs were excellent. I still received a few interviews, but I knew if I had clinicals, I would do substantially better. Rather than get accepted to a school I would not be happy with (along with a family crisis that made me want to delay med school matriculation), I chose to withdraw from all medical schools that gave me interviews prior to decision and reapply this year. I am getting many more interviews from higher ranked schools much earlier in the cycle this time around. I know two people that did the same as me, and got into top schools the next cycle.

Your MCAT will prove a major barrier for you getting into top colleges and will strongly limit your potential scholarships, if your ECs and GPA are on par with T5 school. Personally, I would recommend withdrawing from this cycle and reapplying next cycle with a much higher MCAT score if you believe you are capable of achieving it. Even if you don't want to go to a top school, you might get a massive scholarship from schools a tier down.

Out of curiosity, though, what are these ECs?
tough words to read BUT you aren't wrong. I decided to not finish the secondary and focus on other schools where I have better chances.
 
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Is the weekend not sacred :eek:
 
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Does anyone know if you can take notes during the MMI (during the 2 minutes when you get the prompt)? Thank you!
 
Does anyone know if you can take notes during the MMI (during the 2 minutes when you get the prompt)? Thank you!
I havenā€™t interviewed at Duke yet but at my other two MMIs, taking notes during the 2 minutes was allowed and encouraged
 
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Just got a (very unexpected) II! I am OOS LM 77 super nontrad, complete 7/24. I guess that monster of a secondary wasn't for nothing ;)
 
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Just got a (very unexpected) II! I am OOS LM 77 super nontrad, complete 7/24. I guess that monster of a secondary wasn't for nothing ;)
What other IIs have you gotten?
 
If anyone has any questions about DukeMed, I'm happy to answer them! Current student
 
If anyone has any questions about DukeMed, I'm happy to answer them! Current student
Thank you for offering! Not sure what year you're in, but in general I'm curious how Duke's unique curriculum structure plays out. As I understand it, 1st year is basic sciences, 2nd year is core clerkships, 3rd year is largely research, and 4th year is electives. With a big research year sandwiched between your clinical rotations/electives, how do students keep up with their clinical knowledge? I see there is also clinic in 3rd year, but is that enough to keep your feet wet working with patients so that you're not rusty when it comes to performing during 4th year? (At the same time, I can definitely see how the curriculum would be advantageous when applying for residency.) I am definitely intrigued by Duke's curriculum but I've always kind of wondered this.
 
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Also a current student and happy to answer questions! As someone said earlier in the thread, we also have an admissions liaisons page with tons of students who would love to talk.
 
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Thank you for offering! Not sure what year you're in, but in general I'm curious how Duke's unique curriculum structure plays out. As I understand it, 1st year is basic sciences, 2nd year is core clerkships, 3rd year is largely research, and 4th year is electives. With a big research year sandwiched between your clinical rotations/electives, how do students keep up with their clinical knowledge? I see there is also clinic in 3rd year, but is that enough to keep your feet wet working with patients so that you're not rusty when it comes to performing during 4th year? (At the same time, I can definitely see how the curriculum would be advantageous when applying for residency.) I am definitely intrigued by Duke's curriculum but I've always kind of wondered this.
Haven't gotten to third year yet so my perspective is limited, sorry! As you pointed out, there is a 3rd year continuity clinic requirement that keeps you working with patients throughout the year. Fourth years I've talked to did not mention transitioning from research back into clinical work as a problem area.

I personally love the way the curriculum is set up (big reason why I chose Duke). The 3rd year is a huge advantage because you can do (almost) anything you want, whether that's going hard on clinical research and publishing 20+ papers or getting an MPH/MBA/MS or doing your research year abroad. There are even people who take an extra 3rd year (tuition-free) because they want to travel/take a break/do non-medical things. It's really what you make of it, and Duke gives you the freedom to do what you choose full-time with minimal other school requirements.

Please let me know if you'd like me to clarify anything--I wrote this up quickly right before class. Hopefully this answered at least part of your question.
 
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My primary application was verified on 07/22 and I have not received a secondary yet. Should I presume it is a silent R?
 
My primary application was verified on 07/22 and I have not received a secondary yet. Should I presume it is a silent R?
You probably received a secondary and it went to your spam folder. At this point, it's probably useless to submit a secondary anyway as you would be quite late.
 
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You probably received a secondary and it went to your spam folder. At this point, it's probably useless to submit a secondary anyway as you would be quite late.
I'm still thinking of submitting my secondary.
 
I'm still thinking of submitting my secondary.
Yeah I would still submit it. Got nothing to lose šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø except the secondary fee lol
 
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Yeah I would still submit it. Got nothing to lose šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø except the secondary fee lol
True, if you have the time and money, then definitely feel free to do it.
 
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II, complete 7/22! Pants have been shat. First ever II as a reapplicant with none last cycle!
 
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II this afternoon, complete 7/25. In complete shock.
 
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II today!! I can't believe it! Complete 7/25
 
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II today. Complete 7/30. Stats in signature
 
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Does this message remain on your portal when you log in until you get an interview invite ---See below

" Your supplemental application has been completed. Your application is now being reviewed by a set of independent screeners on our admissions committee. "
 
Does this message remain on your portal when you log in until you get an interview invite ---See below

" Your supplemental application has been completed. Your application is now being reviewed by a set of independent screeners on our admissions committee. "
Yes.
 
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Just got offered an interview for Dukeā€™s PCLT program!
 
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II yesterday
LM ~76
Complete early August
 
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