Does Tulane have a really bad reputation or something?

[murfettie]

I was speaking with some med students and residents from the southern states and they had some pretty negative comments about Tulane. How the hospital is a mess etc. Tulane was of primary interest to me because my husband is a tenure-track professor at LSU but his own school's med school won't even consider me because I'm not from Louisiana.
I thought Tulane was a decent school but I really don't know. I work at one of the most prominent hospitals in S.Cal, but ... it seems none of the doctors know too much about medical schools in the south either. Most of the residents here hail from coastal regions.
Basically I don't know anything about the south. I also figure Katrina had something to do with it?
Just soliciting opinions. Whatever you think.
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[kayakjack]

I'm from Mississippi and I've never heard anything but good things about the medical school. I know its pretty competitive (seems like around 15,000 apply but that might be a little off). Supposedly very good relationships among students, etc... I've heard from someone who works in admissions there they won't look at anyone with an MCAT score under 27 fwiw

 

[TexasPhysician]

A few reasons why Tulane is less desirable now than it used to be. First of all, I believe that students/residents used to rotate through Charity Hospital. Charity Hospital in my opinion was a FANTASTIC place to learn. It made the education much better than average. Charity Hospital closed after Katrina. I'm not sure there are even plans to rebuild it - someone else will have to weigh in on this. Second of all, New Orleans is not what it used to be. I know many applicants to residency that didn't apply to Tulane at all merely because of the city and many would have before Katrina.

Tulane in general (not just the medical center) has taken a hit by Katrina. Maybe not directly by flooding, but many people stay away from areas prone to devastation.

 

[Climberak]

Ok, time to defend my school... cause I love it here🙂.

First off, which hospital are you referring to? If it's Charity, yep the place is in shambles (closed since Katrina). The care delivered there pre-storm was, to be honest, terrible from a patient's perspective... but it was an amazing place to train. You definitely saw some things there that you wouldn't see in SoCal.

Tulane operates it's own 341 bed hospital. Medical students train in there, as well as University Hospital, Oschner, Tuoro, Childrens, and several others. From what I've heard, New Orleans has one of the highest rates of hospital beds per capita. The people of this city are poor and are likely unhealthy as a result (28% meet the standard definition of poverty compared to the 12% national average; this is by the old U.S. census, so you can bet this number has gone up). Southern lifestyle has made it so there is no shortage of heart attacks, diabetes, strokes, etc. There is also a good influx of trauma pts. Like I said, there's lots to see down here.

The school is P/F for the first two years. This allows our medical students to not be anal retentive about their grades and go out and enjoy life (see the "life is now" thread). Board scores are at the national average. You can look at the 2009 match here and judge for yourself: http://tulane.edu/som/admissions/upload/MATCH-DAY-RESULTS-2009.pdf. You'll notice that a good portion of students stay in the area, which reflects on their willingness to continue their education here (must be decent afterall).

OK, yeah, the hurricanes suck. That comes with the territory.

my $0.02

 

[Climberak]

A few reasons why Tulane is less desirable now than it used to be. First of all, I believe that students/residents used to rotate through Charity Hospital. Charity Hospital in my opinion was a FANTASTIC place to learn. It made the education much better than average. Charity Hospital closed after Katrina. I'm not sure there are even plans to rebuild it - someone else will have to weigh in on this. Second of all, New Orleans is not what it used to be. I know many applicants to residency that didn't apply to Tulane at all merely because of the city and many would have before Katrina.

Tulane in general (not just the medical center) has taken a hit by Katrina. Maybe not directly by flooding, but many people stay away from areas prone to devastation.

The two options on the plate are to reopen Charity (less likely) and to build a newer, larger hospital (costs a couple billion; more likely). VA will be opening the largest medical center for vets in the gulf area around 2014. New Orleans is also the fastest growing city in the country. Yeah, it's still rebuilding, but it is rebuilding.

P.S. Tulane (undergrad and medical school) had a record breaking # of applicants in 2009.

 

[psipsina]

A few reasons why Tulane is less desirable now than it used to be. First of all, I believe that students/residents used to rotate through Charity Hospital. Charity Hospital in my opinion was a FANTASTIC place to learn. It made the education much better than average. Charity Hospital closed after Katrina. I'm not sure there are even plans to rebuild it - someone else will have to weigh in on this. Second of all, New Orleans is not what it used to be. I know many applicants to residency that didn't apply to Tulane at all merely because of the city and many would have before Katrina.

Tulane in general (not just the medical center) has taken a hit by Katrina. Maybe not directly by flooding, but many people stay away from areas prone to devastation.

Tulane students still train in the charity system, just not the charity building. LSU has opened an interim hospital located in University Hospital. It is the same underserved population and the same professors as pre-katrina Charity, just a different building (which is too small to serve the population but thats another story).

My school tends to rag on Tulane a bit but they're medical students seem well prepared. From my limited interaction they are a bit more pampered (word banks on anatomy exams were rumored, I've witnessed multiple students sent home on "overnight" call etc). Maybe we're just jealous of the pampering 😉 FWIW I would have attended Tulane in a heartbeat if I hadn't been eligible for LSU-NO.

 

[TexasPhysician]

The two options on the plate are to reopen Charity (less likely) and to build a newer, larger hospital (costs a couple billion; more likely). VA will be opening the largest medical center for vets in the gulf area around 2014. New Orleans is also the fastest growing city in the country. Yeah, it's still rebuilding, but it is rebuilding.

P.S. Tulane (undergrad and medical school) had a record breaking # of applicants in 2009.

A new Charity and a new VA would be fantastic. However current applicants will probably not benefit from either in medical school. I am a HUGE fan of the old Charity......great training. Probably one of the Top 5 in the nation before it closed.

I love your optimism about the city. The stats are misleading though. Since 2000 (to 2009), New Orleans has had a population drop of 53%. That is a lot of patients you lose, and lots of training opportunities. Every major univerity/med school in the US has larger numbers of applicants than the past....there are more people now in the US than ever before...and with the recession, more going for college/graduate programs.

I'm not saying Tulane isn't a good program. I am saying that it will take years to rebuild to where it was. To the OP, I would still apply there.👍

 

[PinkIvy08]

A new Charity and a new VA would be fantastic. However current applicants will probably not benefit from either in medical school. I am a HUGE fan of the old Charity......great training. Probably one of the Top 5 in the nation before it closed.

I love your optimism about the city. The stats are misleading though. Since 2000 (to 2009), New Orleans has had a population drop of 53%. That is a lot of patients you lose, and lots of training opportunities. Every major univerity/med school in the US has larger numbers of applicants than the past....there are more people now in the US than ever before...and with the recession, more going for college/graduate programs.

I'm not saying Tulane isn't a good program. I am saying that it will take years to rebuild to where it was. To the OP, I would still apply there.👍

Just wanted to point out that until the new census results are published, no one really knows how large the population of the city is... Many left initially and some have slowly returned.

Clearly, I'm not a student, so I cannot personally attest to anything. HOWEVER, I've heard that since many doctors left post-Katrina, you have much hands-on experience during rotations, fwiw.

 

[genswim24]

My school tends to rag on Tulane a bit but they're medical students seem well prepared. From my limited interaction they are a bit more pampered (word banks on anatomy exams were rumored, I've witnessed multiple students sent home on "overnight" call etc).

Can't talk about the being sent home part but there certainly is no word bank on anatomy.

 

[metallica81788]

A few reasons why Tulane is less desirable now than it used to be. First of all, I believe that students/residents used to rotate through Charity Hospital. Charity Hospital in my opinion was a FANTASTIC place to learn. It made the education much better than average. Charity Hospital closed after Katrina. I'm not sure there are even plans to rebuild it - someone else will have to weigh in on this. Second of all, New Orleans is not what it used to be. I know many applicants to residency that didn't apply to Tulane at all merely because of the city and many would have before Katrina.

Tulane in general (not just the medical center) has taken a hit by Katrina. Maybe not directly by flooding, but many people stay away from areas prone to devastation.

So people are staying away from San Francisco and UCSF because of earthquakes? Uh, no. At least you can leave with advance notice for hurricanes.

Just because Charity has closed doesn't mean the same cases won't still be there in New Orleans - they probably go to University. I myself do have some hesitations of going back to New Orleans because of the hospital situation, but the bolded statement is just incorrect.

 

[Climberak]

I love your optimism about the city. The stats are misleading though. Since 2000 (to 2009), New Orleans has had a population drop of 53%. That is a lot of patients you lose, and lots of training opportunities. Every major univerity/med school in the US has larger numbers of applicants than the past....there are more people now in the US than ever before...and with the recession, more going for college/graduate programs.

I agree with you, but your assertion was that the university had taken a hit since katrina and that people tend to stay away from places "prone to devastation". The point I'm trying to illustrate is that pre-katrina, Tulane med had about 8,000 primary applications a year. When I applied (2008/09), that number was over 10,000. This year saw similar results as well. Yeah, the city has taken a hit population wise, but like I said, it's still the fastest growing in the country.

Students applying for the class of 2015 (this upcoming cycle) will see and work in the new VA their 4th year (possibly their 3rd year too). They may even have their rotations in the new MCLNO (charity) if LSU would get their act together (😉 @ psipsina).

 

[TexasPhysician]

So people are staying away from San Francisco and UCSF because of earthquakes? Uh, no. At least you can leave with advance notice for hurricanes.

Just because Charity has closed doesn't mean the same cases won't still be there in New Orleans - they probably go to University. I myself do have some hesitations of going back to New Orleans because of the hospital situation, but the bolded statement is just incorrect.

Hard to argue your point about the same cases when the population is -50% or so in the past decade.

 

[TexasPhysician]

I agree with you, but your assertion was that the university had taken a hit since katrina and that people tend to stay away from places "prone to devastation". The point I'm trying to illustrate is that pre-katrina, Tulane med had about 8,000 primary applications a year. When I applied (2008/09), that number was over 10,000. This year saw similar results as well. Yeah, the city has taken a hit population wise, but like I said, it's still the fastest growing in the country.

Students applying for the class of 2015 (this upcoming cycle) will see and work in the new VA their 4th year (possibly their 3rd year too). They may even have their rotations in the new MCLNO (charity) if LSU would get their act together (😉 @ psipsina).

How soon will we find out about the "new" Charity?

 

[genswim24]

Hard to argue your point about the same cases when the population is -50% or so in the past decade.

It certainly is down but not by as much as your estimates.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/01/new_orleans_population_estimat.html

http://www.census.gov/popest/archives/2000s/vintage_2008/08s_challenges.html

http://katrinaresearchhub.ssrc.org/...fastest-growing-city-in-2008-2014-july-1-2009

That number was for 2008, but at that point it was down around 30% from 2000 and the gap was closing. From 2007 to 2008 the population jumped back up between 25-40k. If the population continues to jump at this rate, which is currently expected based on the housing market here, the population loss for the decade will be much closer to 20% than your 50%. There is no number for 2009 publshed by the census, so I am not sure where you are getting your data from.

As was pointed out, until the official 2010 census is complete these numbers aren't official, but even at safe estimates it is nowhere near as low as a 50% as you suggested.

As for the new charity, that is waiting for the health care reform bill. The charity system will be markedly changed if universal health care is passed and enacted.

 

[Musclemass]

...You'll notice that a good portion of students stay in the area, which reflects on their willingness to continue their education here (must be decent afterall)....

I have no firsthand knowledge of Tulane, but it struck me that your conclusion is one of many possible underlying causes.

It's not unusual for some portion of each class at any school to "stay" in the area. I don't how the percentage shown here compares to other schools. But it could be that the students didn't match at higher ranked, more competitive choices. Or they have a SO with job immobility. Or they own a home they can't sell for a reasonable price. Or, or or.

 

[Climberak]

How soon will we find out about the "new" Charity?

Wish I knew... the whole situation is a can of worms. The funding has for the most part been approved, but, it's all a very political situation. Our dean could spend hours talking about it if you were to let him. In truth, Tulane is trying to move New Orleans away from the situation where a major hospital takes care of a majority of the city's citizens... especially the poor. Like I said, Charity was an amazing place to train, but in terms of patient care and health outcomes... it was terrible. The current philosophy of Tulane is to encourage the growth of small clinics interspersed throughout the city. Some of clinics that we have set up recently see about 36,000 patients a year (this is what I recall from orientation, so my numbers are close but not exact). Most of our rotations, however, are still done at the major hospitals (hard to do trauma surgery in a small clinic 😀).

Anyway, we'll see how this whole charity thing plays out. It may take some time before anything is set in stone. Also, although the population is less than it was before, the people who left had the money or the means to do so. The interesting patients, in my humble experience, tend to lack these things (but hey, I could be wrong).

 

[Climberak]

I have no firsthand knowledge of Tulane, but it struck me that your conclusion is one of many possible underlying causes.

It's not unusual for some portion of each class at any school to "stay" in the area. I don't how the percentage shown here compares to other schools. But it could be that the students didn't match at higher ranked, more competitive choices. Or they have a SO with job immobility. Or they own a home they can't sell for a reasonable price. Or, or or.

That's a good point. However, I think most 4th years (significant other or no) would get the hell out of dodge if they weren't confident in their school's ability to train their residents. Our 3rd and 4th years work with our residents (as they do at pretty much every other school)... so I'm sure if there was an apparent deficiency in residency training, they wouldn't even waste their breath applying to the same program. The SO/house thing is a factor... but they can always go down the street to LSU 🙂. Tulane 4th years get some pretty good interviews.

 

[psipsina]

Can't talk about the being sent home part but there certainly is no word bank on anatomy.

Lol good to know!!

 

[TexasPhysician]

It certainly is down but not by as much as your estimates.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/01/new_orleans_population_estimat.html

http://www.census.gov/popest/archives/2000s/vintage_2008/08s_challenges.html

http://katrinaresearchhub.ssrc.org/...fastest-growing-city-in-2008-2014-july-1-2009

That number was for 2008, but at that point it was down around 30% from 2000 and the gap was closing. From 2007 to 2008 the population jumped back up between 25-40k. If the population continues to jump at this rate, which is currently expected based on the housing market here, the population loss for the decade will be much closer to 20% than your 50%. There is no number for 2009 publshed by the census, so I am not sure where you are getting your data from.

As was pointed out, until the official 2010 census is complete these numbers aren't official, but even at safe estimates it is nowhere near as low as a 50% as you suggested.

As for the new charity, that is waiting for the health care reform bill. The charity system will be markedly changed if universal health care is passed and enacted.

From the BEST website on city information (I'm biased I know):

http://www.bestplaces.net/city/New_Orleans-Louisiana.aspx

 

[UAAWolf]

My uncle is a doc down there and told me to steer clear of Tulane...especially since Katrina

 

[UAAWolf]

On the plus side, you are close to the Superdome and can watch the New Orleans Saints

 

[bonesmd]

People in Louisiana tend to think LSU is better, but this may be due to the fact ~70% of medical professionals in the state went there.
Outside of the state, people assume Tulane is good because of the name.
LSU-NO is a lot more hands on based on what I have seen and heard.

 

[plsurf247]

Tulane is about the same as LSU and twice the cost...

 

[cho15]

I highly advise those with less than a 30 MCAT not to apply to Tulane, unless you have some other extremely stellar work to make up for it. They really, really like non-trad, community service and non-science majors. Not that having a science major is bad, but I think for this school in particular you stick out a lot more from the applicant pool if you're not the typical bio, chem, etc... major. I heard this straight from a Q&A session with Dr.Beckman and Dr. Kahn. I'm attending graduate school at Tulane and also applied to Tulane med. They correlate high MCAT scores with good board exam scores so that's why they have pretty much decided to weed out anyone with lower than a 30. Unfair, but what can ya do?

 

[TexasPhysician]

I highly advise those with less than a 30 MCAT not to apply to Tulane, unless you have some other extremely stellar work to make up for it. They really, really like non-trad, community service and non-science majors. Not that having a science major is bad, but I think for this school in particular you stick out a lot more from the applicant pool if you're not the typical bio, chem, etc... major. I heard this straight from a Q&A session with Dr.Beckman and Dr. Kahn. I'm attending graduate school at Tulane and also applied to Tulane med. They correlate high MCAT scores with good board exam scores so that's why they have pretty much decided to weed out anyone with lower than a 30. Unfair, but what can ya do?

I know multiple current students at Tulane with scores under or at 30. All are pretty traditional applicants. I'm not saying they are the majority, but they are certainly there.

 

[cho15]

I know multiple current students at Tulane with scores under or at 30. All are pretty traditional applicants. I'm not saying they are the majority, but they are certainly there.

They have decided on the 30 MCAT "rule" this year. So that's probably why there are currently still a good number of people with under an under 30 MCAT attending Tulane. I also didn't say that no one with under a 30 gets in, I'm just saying that if you do have under a 30 MCAT there better be something spectacular in your resume to make up for it or your chances of getting an interview are very slim. This all straight from the horse's mouth, but if you want to take a shot at Tulane by all means go for it. Just sharing some info that might be helpful.

 

[murfettie]

I just came from back 4 days in New Orleans..
The city is.. hmm.. interesting...
Swung by Tulane and LSU. why in the world does the buildings all look so.... grey?
The city reminds me a lot of China where I grew up..

 

[wannabadr10]

I highly advise those with less than a 30 MCAT not to apply to Tulane, unless you have some other extremely stellar work to make up for it. They really, really like non-trad, community service and non-science majors. Not that having a science major is bad, but I think for this school in particular you stick out a lot more from the applicant pool if you're not the typical bio, chem, etc... major. I heard this straight from a Q&A session with Dr.Beckman and Dr. Kahn. I'm attending graduate school at Tulane and also applied to Tulane med. They correlate high MCAT scores with good board exam scores so that's why they have pretty much decided to weed out anyone with lower than a 30. Unfair, but what can ya do?

Little confused on how this makes any sense considering their average acceptance is ~30. I would think this puts several people at the sub 30s range especially since those numbers come from accepted students and not the students who actually matriculate. Sounds like tulane is trying to make their school sound more competitive than it really is. I can't blame them because how else do you get people to pay that kind of tuition? I agree that they do seem to have strong preference for non-trad applicants. Good school but is it worth the bill that you inevitably pay at the end?

 

[metallica81788]

I just came from back 4 days in New Orleans..
The city is.. hmm.. interesting...
Swung by Tulane and LSU. why in the world does the buildings all look so.... grey?
The city reminds me a lot of China where I grew up..

I know. 🙁 It's so depressing. I haven't seen any med school that looks worse from the outside. At least the inside of LSU-NO is nice.

Little confused on how this makes any sense considering their average acceptance is ~30. I would think this puts several people at the sub 30s range especially since those numbers come from accepted students and not the students who actually matriculate. Sounds like tulane is trying to make their school sound more competitive than it really is. I can't blame them because how else do you get people to pay that kind of tuition? I agree that they do seem to have strong preference for non-trad applicants. Good school but is it worth the bill that you inevitably pay at the end?

Not to Louisiana residents.

 

[scr1813]

Does Tulane have a bad reputation? To answer your question, I have had department chairs at Tulane tell me to go to LSU instead. Additionally, 22 people did not match at Tulane on Black Monday and had to scramble.

 

[alibai3ah]

Does Tulane have a bad reputation? To answer your question, I have had department chairs at Tulane tell me to go to LSU instead. Additionally, 22 people did not match at Tulane on Black Monday and had to scramble.

I have to defend Tulane here. This does not mean anything. This is more of a reflection of students than the school itself. People from Tulane have every opportunity to have successful futures just like other schools.

I was accepted at Tulane and I went to way crappier schools during my interview trail. I actually liked Tulane and New Orleans a lot. It seemed like a great place to be. And I don't think it has a bad reputation, and is probably in the likes of other schools like SLU, VCU, GWU, some of the SUNY schools,etc but better than schools like NYMC and Drexel.

The reason Tulane has lower stats than other schools is b/c they emphasize on fit and that's how they choose their students (not just numbers).

 

[CALItotheSOUTH]

Hey, I also want to defend Tulane. I moved to New Orleans from California, and was extremely skeptical about moving to the South. BUT, Tulane is seriously something else. I can't imagine going to a different med school and missing out on what New Orleans has to offer. If you've never been here...VISIT! The creole culture/food/southern-hospitality are all amazing.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned some of the best parts about Tulane too. The student body is awesome, and I agree that tulane tends to select non-trad students...but it makes the class so much better! When several of your classmates have been in the PeaceCorps or played in a band for a few years, you get a well-rounded class with people who are passionate and committed to serving the city, Post-Katrina.

The other thing I want to mention about Tulane is the (like 5) completely student-run clinics. Friends I have from other schools don't get the kind of hand-on experience working with patients their first month of med school. All they talk about is their books, but we are actually in the clinics running them and learning more than you can imagine. We put our coats on, and start taking patient histories on Day 1 (only if you want to of course). Its a truly unique city, but don't just take it from me. Interview here, and you'll see.

 

[metallica81788]

I have to defend Tulane here. This does not mean anything. This is more of a reflection of students than the school itself. People from Tulane have every opportunity to have successful futures just like other schools.

I was accepted at Tulane and I went to way crappier schools during my interview trail. I actually liked Tulane and New Orleans a lot. It seemed like a great place to be. And I don't think it has a bad reputation, and is probably in the likes of other schools like SLU, VCU, GWU, some of the SUNY schools,etc but better than schools like NYMC and Drexel.

The reason Tulane has lower stats than other schools is b/c they emphasize on fit and that's how they choose their students (not just numbers).

Hey, I also want to defend Tulane. I moved to New Orleans from California, and was extremely skeptical about moving to the South. BUT, Tulane is seriously something else. I can't imagine going to a different med school and missing out on what New Orleans has to offer. If you've never been here...VISIT! The creole culture/food/southern-hospitality are all amazing.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned some of the best parts about Tulane too. The student body is awesome, and I agree that tulane tends to select non-trad students...but it makes the class so much better! When several of your classmates have been in the PeaceCorps or played in a band for a few years, you get a well-rounded class with people who are passionate and committed to serving the city, Post-Katrina.

The other thing I want to mention about Tulane is the (like 5) completely student-run clinics. Friends I have from other schools don't get the kind of hand-on experience working with patients their first month of med school. All they talk about is their books, but we are actually in the clinics running them and learning more than you can imagine. We put our coats on, and start taking patient histories on Day 1 (only if you want to of course). Its a truly unique city, but don't just take it from me. Interview here, and you'll see.

👍 Good posts.

Tulane is not a bad school by any means, and a lot of the outsiders' perspectives come from a dislike of New Orleans based on nothing but thoughts of Katrina (which was almost 5 years ago btw). New Orleans is a great, truly unique city.

I would recommend Louisiana residents to consider strongly whether the Tulane name is worth the 30k/year extra in tuition over LSU, which has quite similar (if not better) training.

Tulane is a great school for OOSers, though. It's just expensive.

 

[wannabadr10]

Considering my previous post didn't do much in the way of answering the OPs question, I had couple things to add since I'm from new orleans. Tulane is a good medical school. However, there are many other medical schools around the nation that offer most of what they do. So one of the big deciding factors (like always) should be based on how well you think you fit in with their students, faculty and overall mission.

One thing that does set them apart is their location. Contrary to what people say, generally people who have never stepped foot in Louisiana, the city is mostly back on its feet. Of course I can understand the concern. Charity is shut down but there are several great teaching hospitals throughout the city that provide an excellent learning environment, but I havent spent too much time in their hospital.

Whether the school is as good as it was before katrina can be argued ad nauseum. One thing is for certain, whether or not you come out of the school with a good education will have nothing to do with katrina. New Orleans is a different place with a lot of unique things to offer but it's not for everyone. If you like the the city and the school, I wouldnt worry about anything. I hope this helped. Good luck!

 

[Dantheman396]

I want to preface my reply by saying I have only been to New Orleans twice. My older bro is in his 3rd year and has nothing but positive things to say about the med school. My second visit I was in NOLA for 6 days and had the opportunity to meet many of my bros classmates. None of them had any negative things to say about the school and they all seemed to really enjoy being there. Obviously, Katrina hurt the entire area, but since then the med school has been working its way back up to what it was. In response to people saying they thought the med school was trashy looking, I have no idea what they are talking about. I interviewed at several schools and Tulane was equivalent, if not superior, in many aspects. I think a lot of the issue has to do with cost, but face the facts, if you are OOS at any school...you're gonna be in debt... The people I spoke with all seemed to agree that the patients you see at Tulane are unique and provide excellent experience. NOLA is a great city, it is unique in every aspect, and provides a wide array of patients to gain experience from. I agree with the post a few above mine that it is important to go to a school where you feel you fit in. I got into several schools but loved New Orleans. It is important to keep in mind that if you work hard at any med school you will have the ability to do residency all over the nation. I'm not sure why people would bad mouth Tulane, it delivers the same opportunities that countless med schools offer and has the advantage of being in an area where doctors are needed and even a med school student can have a great impact on the patients they see. I guess you gotta ask yourself, why do YOU want to be a doctor? 🙂

 

[DoctwoB]

I've heard that the attendings at Tulane eat babies. that could be it.