2009-2010 Rosalind Franklin Application Thread

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girlofgrace7 said:
For those of you worried that you haven't received an interview yet, don't lose hope. I submitted my application in late October or early November. Early this week, I got an e-mail informing me I'd be moved to a "smaller applicant pool" and "may receive an interview." I received the e-mail today offering me an interview, and they have many interview dates remaining.
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Thanks for the reassurance! I haven't heard anything since I sent in my secondary.
 
does anybody know the percent first time pass rate for the boards at RFU?? in addition, anybody know how many students (percent) place into first or second choice residency?? i've heard they RFU students do well, but i was looking for numbers to compare to others schools i'm interested in. Thanks for any help.
 
I emailed CMS and asked about my status because I haven't heard a word since I was complete in the fall. They told me I'm still in primary screening. Is there a chance they still haven't looked at my application, or were they just trying to avoid telling me I was rejected?
 
illegallysmooth said:
I emailed CMS and asked about my status because I haven't heard a word since I was complete in the fall. They told me I'm still in primary screening. Is there a chance they still haven't looked at my application, or were they just trying to avoid telling me I was rejected?
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I'm sure they've looked at your app by now, but they may still be comparing you to people and haven't made any decisions
 
illegallysmooth said:
I emailed CMS and asked about my status because I haven't heard a word since I was complete in the fall. They told me I'm still in primary screening. Is there a chance they still haven't looked at my application, or were they just trying to avoid telling me I was rejected?
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I was just invited on march 3rd, so they're definitely still handing out interviews.
 
Untraditional said:
Looks like there are a group of named blocked out on the last page ith not associated specialties
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No, that's just:
"Senior Associate Dean
Student Affairs and Medical Education
Chicago Medical School
at Rosalind Franklin University
of Medicine and Science
19-Mar-09"

It would kind of being adding insult to injury if they listed names of unmatched students on a match list, wouldn't it? :laugh:

BTW, I think there are virtually no unmatched US seniors after the scramble, and any match list includes students who matched initially and those who found a position after the scramble.
 
Has anyone gotten any financial aid/scholarship information?

I got the email about filling out FAFSA and stuff, but I called a while ago and they said their scholarship committee was going to meet very soon.

For those of you that have been accepted but NOT SURE that you will attend, did you fill out more than just the FAFSA? I know theres the master promissory note and some other misc forms.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
herewego said:
Has anyone gotten any financial aid/scholarship information?

I got the email about filling out FAFSA and stuff, but I called a while ago and they said their scholarship committee was going to meet very soon.

For those of you that have been accepted but NOT SURE that you will attend, did you fill out more than just the FAFSA? I know theres the master promissory note and some other misc forms.

Any help would be appreciated.
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I haven't sent in anything besides FAFSA. I was going to wait until I heard back from my state school to get started on anything else. I doubt this will affect our chances for scholarships or grants, correct? Not that I'm expecting anything anyways.
 
Medgirl55 said:
Got an interview invitation today! I was small-pooled a few months ago. Really want to go, but I already have another acceptance and can't afford to fly out to another interview. I'll probably cancel - hope it goes to one of you guys! Also - don't give up hope there were plenty of interview dates available March-April!
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Good to hear! And congrats.
 
are there any non-BMS rosalind franklin students out there that wouldn't mind a PM from me? I have decided on RFU but I have a couple of questions that I wanted to ask current students about campus life, classes etc. Thanks for your help!
 
I've withdrawn my acceptance to CMS. I hope it goes to an SDNr!

best of luck 🙂
 
herewego said:
Has anyone gotten any financial aid/scholarship information?

I got the email about filling out FAFSA and stuff, but I called a while ago and they said their scholarship committee was going to meet very soon.

For those of you that have been accepted but NOT SURE that you will attend, did you fill out more than just the FAFSA? I know theres the master promissory note and some other misc forms.

Any help would be appreciated.
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This is all I got:


"Dear Phosphorus Ylide,

I have received both your Declaration of Intent and your $100 placement fee. Congratulations on your admittance to the Entering Class of 2014 for the Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University . I am very excited to welcome you into our community!

Over the course of the next few months you will be receiving informative emails to help you with the process of matriculation. These emails will include forms which will need to be completed before orientation, helpful information about the school and community, and information about orientation.

Within the next few months you should be receiving information regarding the forms needed before beginning classes. The forms will include:
·Background Check Form
·Immunization Form
·Financial Aid Application
·Student Housing Application—only needed if you plan to live in the on-campus housing

Around May, we will begin sending out information regarding orientation. Orientation is generally held the week before classes begin. Before the actual orientation begins, an online tutorial will be updated on the Rosalind Franklin website as a helpful resource.

As you begin your transition to medical school, an important aspect is the community you will be living in. We have provided you with a few links to information about places to live as well as information about the city and surrounding areas:

·Student Housing: Before we send out housing applications, please take a look at the website for information regarding the housing as well as a listing of off-campus housing.
·Lake County Local Government
·Outdoor Recreation
·Six Flags Great America
·Lake County
·Life in Chicagoland

If at any time you have questions about this process, the school, or any other issue, feel free to contact me at xxxxxxxxx
Once again, welcome to the Chicago Medical School !"
 
Phosphorus Ylide said:
We have provided you with a few links to information about places to live as well as information about the city and surrounding areas:

·Student Housing: Before we send out housing applications, please take a look at the website for information regarding the housing as well as a listing of off-campus housing.
·Lake County Local Government
·Outdoor Recreation
·Six Flags Great America
·Lake County
·Life in Chicagoland
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Wow, that "Life in Chicagoland" pamphlet is awesome. Wish all schools took the time to put something like that together.
 
Hey Ylide,

Congrats on the acceptance, IRC, this is off the waitlist correct?

👍

Phosphorus Ylide said:
This is all I got:




"Dear Phosphorus Ylide,

I have received both your Declaration of Intent and your $100 placement fee. Congratulations on your admittance to the Entering Class of 2014 for the Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University . I am very excited to welcome you into our community!

Over the course of the next few months you will be receiving informative emails to help you with the process of matriculation. These emails will include forms which will need to be completed before orientation, helpful information about the school and community, and information about orientation.

Within the next few months you should be receiving information regarding the forms needed before beginning classes. The forms will include:
·Background Check Form
·Immunization Form
·Financial Aid Application
·Student Housing Application—only needed if you plan to live in the on-campus housing

Around May, we will begin sending out information regarding orientation. Orientation is generally held the week before classes begin. Before the actual orientation begins, an online tutorial will be updated on the Rosalind Franklin website as a helpful resource.

As you begin your transition to medical school, an important aspect is the community you will be living in. We have provided you with a few links to information about places to live as well as information about the city and surrounding areas:

·Student Housing: Before we send out housing applications, please take a look at the website for information regarding the housing as well as a listing of off-campus housing.
·Lake County Local Government
·Outdoor Recreation
·Six Flags Great America
·Lake County
·Life in Chicagoland

If at any time you have questions about this process, the school, or any other issue, feel free to contact me at xxxxxxxxx
Once again, welcome to the Chicago Medical School !"
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I see someone matched with RFUMS? What does that mean? Wasn't aware that RFUMS had a hospital to train residents in...
 
4goneconclusion said:
I see someone matched with RFUMS? What does that mean? Wasn't aware that RFUMS had a hospital to train residents in...
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Was it for IM? Too lazy to look through the list again.. but I know RFU does sponsor an IM residency. People that match into it work in surrounding hospitals like North Chicago VA and Mount Sinai.
 
Ari1584 said:
are there any non-BMS rosalind franklin students out there that wouldn't mind a PM from me? I have decided on RFU but I have a couple of questions that I wanted to ask current students about campus life, classes etc. Thanks for your help!
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i'll try to answer your questions.

4goneconclusion said:
I see someone matched with RFUMS? What does that mean? Wasn't aware that RFUMS had a hospital to train residents in...
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i think that is a research thing, but not totally sure.
 
I have an interview at RFU in less than 2 weeks. I am not sure what to expect or what questions they could ask me. I would love to hear from someone who has already interviewed here and could give me some advice. Thanks so much.
 
stromijj said:
does anybody know the percent first time pass rate for the boards at RFU?? in addition, anybody know how many students (percent) place into first or second choice residency?? i've heard they RFU students do well, but i was looking for numbers to compare to others schools i'm interested in. Thanks for any help.
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I decided betwen U Toledo, NYMC, and RFU this year- I'm not waiting for any other schools to reject me or accept me, since it's gone pretty stagnant. so I'm definitely going to RFU this coming August. 👍

I talked to several students while trying to make my decision and one thing for sure I got out of it was that they have the 2nd highest STEP1 scores in the country- U of C is the first.

The preparation for STEP1 is amazing, but the STEP2 prep isn't as great just because there is no hospital owned by the university- you just have to do a little extra work to get your recommendations for residency and such, according to the students I talked to. It's not a major hang up (That was my biggest concern).

I heard from a 4th year on the student resources list that the whole system is going to change, however. STEP1 will be replaced by a pass/fail exam at the end of your 3rd year that says whether yu ARE, or ARENT, competent to practice medicine. STEP2 will be broken up into smaller exams that occur after every rotation is done during your 3rd and 4th years. This is what the student told me, so you're hearing it 2nd hand- I am trusting he knows what he was talking about.

I'm definitely not regretting my choice... so good luck getting in all of you!!
 
bellaforyou said:
I have an interview at RFU in less than 2 weeks. I am not sure what to expect or what questions they could ask me. I would love to hear from someone who has already interviewed here and could give me some advice. Thanks so much.
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One of my interviewers asked me why I didn't get into Loyola because I went there for undergrad. I thought this was a low blow, but since I got in clearly it didn't hurt me (I told him I really couldn't guess as to why).

My other interviewer was probably the nicest interviewer I had this entire interview season. I went to 5 or 6 (they all run together- take good notes at each one or you'll regret it). The people there are extremely friendly.

The questions are standard. Why you want to be a doctor, stuff like that. If you look at the interveiw feedback page you'll be fine.
 
Eklipse113 said:
I decided betwen U Toledo, NYMC, and RFU this year- I'm not waiting for any other schools to reject me or accept me, since it's gone pretty stagnant. so I'm definitely going to RFU this coming August. 👍

I talked to several students while trying to make my decision and one thing for sure I got out of it was that they have the 2nd highest STEP1 scores in the country- U of C is the first.

The preparation for STEP1 is amazing, but the STEP2 prep isn't as great just because there is no hospital owned by the university- you just have to do a little extra work to get your recommendations for residency and such, according to the students I talked to. It's not a major hang up (That was my biggest concern).

I heard from a 4th year on the student resources list that the whole system is going to change, however. STEP1 will be replaced by a pass/fail exam at the end of your 3rd year that says whether yu ARE, or ARENT, competent to practice medicine. STEP2 will be broken up into smaller exams that occur after every rotation is done during your 3rd and 4th years. This is what the student told me, so you're hearing it 2nd hand- I am trusting he knows what he was talking about.

I'm definitely not regretting my choice... so good luck getting in all of you!!
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Dont forget to join the FB group 🙂
 
Eklipse113 said:
I talked to several students while trying to make my decision and one thing for sure I got out of it was that they have the 2nd highest STEP1 scores in the country- U of C is the first.

The preparation for STEP1 is amazing, but the STEP2 prep isn't as great just because there is no hospital owned by the university- you just have to do a little extra work to get your recommendations for residency and such, according to the students I talked to. It's not a major hang up (That was my biggest concern).
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lol! i highly would DOUBT that the STEP 1 scores were that high for RFU!!
 
I have a question about the admission committee format.

Does one of the ppl who interviewed us present are file to adcoms?

Or does each interviewer just fill out an evaluation which is added to our file?

Thanks, any input is greatly appreciated
 
Also, I read somewhere, maybe MSAR or somewhere else

that New York Medical College and Rosalind Franklin are sister schools.

I googled this and could not find any info. I interviewed at Rosalind Franklin

and then after the adcoms had a meeting and put me on hold, I was offered a

interview at NYMC. I do not know if correlation implies causation here.

But I would like to know what it means for them to be sister schools

and then I can speculate about it as I wait... and wait.... and wait.... hehe

Again any feedback is greatly appreciated
 
coookiecrisp1 said:
lol! i highly would DOUBT that the STEP 1 scores were that high for RFU!!
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Yeah, much of what you hear at any school about board scores is rumor. All I know is that our Step 1 scores are significantly above national average, according to a faculty member who had just attended a meeting where they had discussed it. Step 2 scores are about average.
 
thanks for the info about the board scores eklipse. that is what i was looking for. Keyzer you have been very helpful to pre-med students on this forum, thank you for taking the time to help out. i notice someone post a little earlier about scholarships. do they have a lot of scholarships at RFU that they hand out, or do you have to be the cream of the crop to get them??
 
stromijj said:
thanks for the info about the board scores eklipse. that is what i was looking for. Keyzer you have been very helpful to pre-med students on this forum, thank you for taking the time to help out. i notice someone post a little earlier about scholarships. do they have a lot of scholarships at RFU that they hand out, or do you have to be the cream of the crop to get them??
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As far as I know they only offer a very small number of scholarships.
 
bellaforyou said:
I have an interview at RFU in less than 2 weeks. I am not sure what to expect or what questions they could ask me. I would love to hear from someone who has already interviewed here and could give me some advice. Thanks so much.
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Both of my interviews were conversation in nature, meaning that the interviewers did really ask me direct questions from a list- it was more of a flow. But what I would say is make sure that you have gone over everything that you think is important that you have done and if they don't directly address then you should bring it up (very smoothly- lol). You have to sell yourself and it can be a little hard with a conversation. But there is a great variation within what the interviewers ask and everyone gets different people. Definitely look at the feedback in the interview form. But don't worry- it is not a stressful situation because they set the day up nicely.
 
Hey everyone.. I'm interviewing here soon and I was hoping someone could give me an idea of how the day is set up? I know I have to be there from 8am-2pm, but are the interviews themselves conducted in the morning? Or more towards the afternoon?

And I'm trying to get more information regarding the curriculum, but their website is somewhat sparse. All I could find was a listed schedule -- looks like it's mostly traditional lectures? With some small group discussions in the afternoons? Is that correct?

Thanks for the help. 🙂
 
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there is two interviews in the morning. everyone sits in a room and takes turns
waiting for their two interviews. each interview is partially blind. the interviewer does not know your gpa or mcat score. it seemed like they just read my personal statement real quick before they started the interview.

this goes on until about 11:30 am. then you go for lunch with 2 first year med
students were you have a chance to ask questions. then you go on a tour.

thats the day!
 
crestfall said:
there is two interviews in the morning. everyone sits in a room and takes turns
waiting for their two interviews. each interview is partially blind. the interviewer does not know your gpa or mcat score. it seemed like they just read my personal statement real quick before they started the interview.

this goes on until about 11:30 am. then you go for lunch with 2 first year med
students were you have a chance to ask questions. then you go on a tour.

thats the day!
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Like cows waiting to be slaughtered? :laugh: Kidding. Thanks for the description! Do you know anything about the curriculum? Mostly lecture with a bit of PBL? At least that's what it looks like from the class calendar. The RFU website is really needing a redesign imo.
 
all i really remember about the curriculum was that they made an effort to
distribute the exams evenly through out the semester. they wanted to make it
so that you dont end up with a day or two of straight exams one after another.

this is rather experimental, i think this is the first semester they are trying this.

the students said that the organizers of the classes are really receptive to their feedback and try to implement any advice the students give as soon as possible.

Keyseroze can probably fill in the gaps. I forget if the curriculum is systems based or intergrated tho. they give you a folder with lots of info in it.
 
I've weighed all the options and I really feel like Rosalind Franklin is the place for me. Chicago really won me over. Detroit, on the other hand, did not. Sorry to all those who wanted me to turn down my acceptance! Interacting with students at Wayne, I really got the impression that it was much more of a cutthroat atmosphere. 300 people in a class, understandable.

I feel like RFUMS is the right place for me!
 
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MiniMoo said:
Like cows waiting to be slaughtered? :laugh: Kidding. Thanks for the description! Do you know anything about the curriculum? Mostly lecture with a bit of PBL? At least that's what it looks like from the class calendar. The RFU website is really needing a redesign imo.
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totally like cows except if you're last name is toward the beginning its more like being the guinea pig. everyone looks at you all wide eyed when you get back like "did they hurt you?" hahaha it was great.

the curriculum just changed to systems based and they have like smaller PBL sections every so often but it's not as much PBL as I've seen at other schools.

and the website sucks. anyone who enrolls should tell them to get on that haha
 
crestfall said:
all i really remember about the curriculum was that they made an effort to
distribute the exams evenly through out the semester. they wanted to make it
so that you dont end up with a day or two of straight exams one after another.

this is rather experimental, i think this is the first semester they are trying this.

the students said that the organizers of the classes are really receptive to their feedback and try to implement any advice the students give as soon as possible.

Keyseroze can probably fill in the gaps. I forget if the curriculum is systems based or intergrated tho. they give you a folder with lots of info in it.
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yeah, they did their best to spread out exams for us this year, but the system is far from perfect right now. actually, we had a survey conducted in class earlier this week so we could give our feedback to the faculty. definitely expect a similar set-up next year with just a few minor changes.

i'm not exactly sure how systems-based and integrated curriculum are defined, but here is my explanation of the curriculum: all the courses (biechem, physio, anatomy, embryo, etc.) are coordinated so that the material is presented in the most efficient manner (i.e. no overlap amongst classes, which was apparently a big problem previously) and that everything is "integrated." for example, a couple weeks ago we were studying the physiology, anatomy, and histology of the kidney, and right now we are focusing on the physiology, biochemistry, and histology on the endocrine system.

regarding the lecture/PBL distribution, we seem to get about 1.5 weeks of hard science on a given system and then have a few days of "clinical correlation" and "case conference" lectures - we had a handful of biochem and MCB sessions earlier in the year that were closer to PBL, but those have basically stopped. then, for physio, there are "facilitator sessions" about once a week, which basically consist of an M1A (who have previously taken and done well in medical physiology) going over old exam problems with a group of about 20 other students. of course, we also have a lab of some kind (anatomy, clinical reasoning, histology) once or twice a week.
 
so i got small pooled yesterday (after like 3 months of silence), is there an average waiting time before an interview invite or are some small pooled people never extended any?
 
Do any one have last years stats about how many percent small pooled students get interview invitation?


hitsugaaya said:
so i got small pooled yesterday (after like 3 months of silence), is there an average waiting time before an interview invite or are some small pooled people never extended any?
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Well, after some thinking, I turned down my acceptance here =( It was a hard decision, but I'd like to stick closer to NY and home, so hopefully next month will open some spots for other students who'd like to come here! Good luck with the rest of the cycle.
 
kmd34 said:
Do any one have last years stats about how many percent small pooled students get interview invitation?
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I don't think that those statistics have ever been available (at least I have not ever run across them).
 
red10 said:
totally like cows except if you're last name is toward the beginning its more like being the guinea pig. everyone looks at you all wide eyed when you get back like "did they hurt you?" hahaha it was great.

the curriculum just changed to systems based and they have like smaller PBL sections every so often but it's not as much PBL as I've seen at other schools.

and the website sucks. anyone who enrolls should tell them to get on that haha
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Thanks for the info Red. 🙂 Do you know if you're going to be attending RFU in the fall?

chief illiniwek said:
yeah, they did their best to spread out exams for us this year, but the system is far from perfect right now. actually, we had a survey conducted in class earlier this week so we could give our feedback to the faculty. definitely expect a similar set-up next year with just a few minor changes.

i'm not exactly sure how systems-based and integrated curriculum are defined, but here is my explanation of the curriculum: all the courses (biechem, physio, anatomy, embryo, etc.) are coordinated so that the material is presented in the most efficient manner (i.e. no overlap amongst classes, which was apparently a big problem previously) and that everything is "integrated." for example, a couple weeks ago we were studying the physiology, anatomy, and histology of the kidney, and right now we are focusing on the physiology, biochemistry, and histology on the endocrine system.

regarding the lecture/PBL distribution, we seem to get about 1.5 weeks of hard science on a given system and then have a few days of "clinical correlation" and "case conference" lectures - we had a handful of biochem and MCB sessions earlier in the year that were closer to PBL, but those have basically stopped. then, for physio, there are "facilitator sessions" about once a week, which basically consist of an M1A (who have previously taken and done well in medical physiology) going over old exam problems with a group of about 20 other students. of course, we also have a lab of some kind (anatomy, clinical reasoning, histology) once or twice a week.
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Hey I really appreciate you posting with your experiences with the curriculum. It sounds like there's a great balance between lecture and PBL. Do you have any criticisms or things you wish were different?

Anyways, I'm gonna be interviewing here on Monday. Excited to be visiting Chicago!! *does excited happy dance* (even though I'll probably only see bits of it through the window of my taxi cab).
 
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