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Emby said:
I combed through and no one has posted that they interviewed in December and gotten an email. Looks like we are safe for now. Fingers crossed for everyone!
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I'm so torn hahaha.

I really don't want to wait another month but at the same time I'm hoping that the December interviewees aren't included in this batch.
 
LittleBrother said:
I'm so torn hahaha.

I really don't want to wait another month but at the same time I'm hoping that the December interviewees aren't included in this batch.
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I feel you. I have no idea what to think. I actually just emailed the MD admin and they said they "are in the middle of the process of sending out final decisions. Thank you for your patience as we work as expeditiously as possible to send out communications to all of our candidates." In other words, I just wanna hear already lol

also, lets all just take a step back (I have to constantly remind myself too) and just appreciate the fact we're at a huge point of even being evaluated for medical school. This is a huge mountain to climb. Just look back and realize how far you've actually come, regardless of the MD decision. I know its stressful but take a deep breath and realize that breath is in and of itself a blessing (I know its existential but it shifts your perspective slightly)
 
lopezchm said:
I feel you. I have no idea what to think. I actually just emailed the MD admin and they said they "are in the middle of the process of sending out final decisions. Thank you for your patience as we work as expeditiously as possible to send out communications to all of our candidates." In other words, I just wanna hear already lol

also, lets all just take a step back (I have to constantly remind myself too) and just appreciate the fact we're at a huge point of even being evaluated for medical school. This is a huge mountain to climb. Just look back and realize how far you've actually come, regardless of the MD decision. I know its stressful but take a deep breath and realize that breath is in and of itself a blessing (I know its existential but it shifts your perspective slightly)
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This is amazing. Thanks for this
 
lopezchm said:
I feel you. I have no idea what to think. I actually just emailed the MD admin and they said they "are in the middle of the process of sending out final decisions. Thank you for your patience as we work as expeditiously as possible to send out communications to all of our candidates." In other words, I just wanna hear already lol

also, lets all just take a step back (I have to constantly remind myself too) and just appreciate the fact we're at a huge point of even being evaluated for medical school. This is a huge mountain to climb. Just look back and realize how far you've actually come, regardless of the MD decision. I know its stressful but take a deep breath and realize that breath is in and of itself a blessing (I know its existential but it shifts your perspective slightly)
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This makes me feel like there could be more acceptances/Zoom emails to send out. Keep the faith everyone! 🙂
 
diazoniumsalt said:
This makes me feel like there could be more acceptances/Zoom emails to send out. Keep the faith everyone! 🙂
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[dontmakemefeelhope.gif] let me wallow in my sorrow!

EDIT: but seriously, I hope so. It's so hard to decipher these communications 🕵️‍♂️
 
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hellokittens said:
Do they even care for letters of intent? I didn't see a place for it in the portal, nor did they mention them in the interview. I mean doesn't virtually every student intend to go to Stanford over every other school lmao?
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Apparently not when the yield is like 60%

Edit: Its actually 52% ; source
 
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Why is SDN none of the above
 
hellokittens said:
The only school I could really see stanford losing to is harvard. That's the only school that if I got in, the decision would be tough. P much everywhere else it would be a no-brainer money aside.
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hahahaha as someone who has lived in palo alto my whole life, i would honestly choose most of the T10 over stanford (money also aside). choosing which medical school to go to is such a personal decision. for some, stanford may be the perfect fit; for others, it may not be
 
roasted_oolong said:
hahahaha as someone who has lived in palo alto my whole life, i would honestly choose most of the T10 over stanford (money also aside). choosing which medical school to go to is such a personal decision. for some, stanford may be the perfect fit; for others, it may not be
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yeah I actually don't think choosing Stanford is a no brainer, thus I held off on sending any type of letter because I feel like I could choose other schools I interviewed with. But since my other options don't have a 2 week post interview rule, I was wondering if an LOI would even be an option at this point should I reach the decision that Stanford is my best choice after weighing all the pros and cons
 
hellokittens said:
The only school I could really see stanford losing to is harvard. That's the only school that if I got in, the decision would be tough. P much everywhere else it would be a no-brainer money aside.
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Money is a big factor. A close friend of mine turned it down for a full ride to another lower tier school. Could be the case for others as well.
 
roasted_oolong said:
hahahaha as someone who has lived in palo alto my whole life, i would honestly choose most of the T10 over stanford (money also aside). choosing which medical school to go to is such a personal decision. for some, stanford may be the perfect fit; for others, it may not be
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Could you explain this a bit more? I’ve never been to Palo Alto so I’m not sure what to expect...
 
definitely_chondria said:
Could you explain this a bit more? I’ve never been to Palo Alto so I’m not sure what to expect...
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yeah, of course! it's a very comfortable place to live, but it doesn't have a whole lot going on for young people (imo). everything is super expensive and just getting more so (many of the shops/restaurants I grew up going to have had to close and were replaced by higher-end, bougier shops/restaurants). stanford's campus is super spread out, and it can be hard to get to things in the rest of the city without a car (although a lot of people bike). that being said, i love the bay and have always dreamed about coming back to Stanford as a resident/attending when I'm more ready to settle down; it's just that for the next four years or so, i want to experience something/somewhere a bit more exciting (which i realize is a mindset heavily shaped by having grown up here. for others, coming here could be your exciting new adventure!)
 
definitely_chondria said:
Could you explain this a bit more? I’ve never been to Palo Alto so I’m not sure what to expect...
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I grew up in the midwest but have now lived in both Palo Alto and Boston, so maybe I can offer a comparison of east/west coast and city/suburb! first, both are really expensive haha. I am considering heading to the midwest for med school so I can buy a house and be financially stable. as a busy student, I personally enjoyed being in palo alto where I could easily travel between class/lab/hospital really easily! it was also easier to collaborate with clinicians in research because of this. the campus is spread out but totally manageable. the people and faculty on the west coast are also wayyy more approachable and generally nice. the suburb vibe is definitely not as great for night life, but I wasn't too bothered by this because I was always busy anyways. in boston, I found that I spent way too much time (sometimes more than 2 hours per day) trying to navigate the less-than-ideal public transport system, often during inclement weather haha. people in boston/on the east coast are also less likely to casually strike up conversation. more than a few times while walking my dog in my neighborhood, native bostonians would yell at me for being a yuppy or comment that my mom was paying my rent (they were rightly angry about all of the gentrification happening). there also seems to be a somewhat cut-throat atmosphere on the east coast which makes you feel more like people are in competition with you rather than working with you toward a common goal. for me, the little things like travel time, weather, and social interactions really added up in terms of my overall wellbeing. all just my personal opinions but I hope this helps!!
 
hellokittens said:
The only school I could really see stanford losing to is harvard. That's the only school that if I got in, the decision would be tough. P much everywhere else it would be a no-brainer money aside.
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Harvard, Hopkins, Penn and UCSF and any other T10s who give merit unless you want to do MBA or some other dual track.
 
CommyØ said:
Stanford still has graded clerkships. Other schools would be UPenn, Vanderbilt, UCSF, and some I'm probably missing, that don't. I think that would make it a tougher choice.

In addition to what @EdgeTrimmer said, Harvard's yield is like 70% which is also the highest there is but I don't believe Harvard or Stanford give merit-aid. Saying 'money aside' is folly when money is quite possibly the most important factor when picking a school. I mean, I'd pick a full ride to a T30 over any T20.

And what's with the trend with people using "P" "V" "D"? Maybe I'm just not a young whippersnapper anymore but can't people spell out their words...
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I haven't heard of a single school that has true pass fail clerkships. They all seem to be honors, high pass, pass, and fail. It's marketed as pass fail, but let's be real, it's pretty much graded.

Harvard's yield is the highest, but it's not like Stanford is low. It's at just over half, which probably beats 80% of other T10 schools.

Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician (as in no research, private practice). Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.

Also, I'll agree, talking about money aside is a little removed from reality, but it does give a good baseline of each school's value to you by it being an institution alone. The disparity in value between schools is something we then use to fuel compensation by money and scholarships.

Also, what's wrong with using abbreviations in online speak? It makes stuff faster to type... It's not like I say 'p much' in real life... If you understood what I said, then it was 100% effective.
 
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hellokittens said:
I haven't heard of a single school that has true pass fail clerkships. They all seem to be honors, high pass, pass, and fail. It's marketed as pass fail, but let's be real, it's pretty much graded.

Harvard's yield is the highest, but it's not like Stanford is low. It's at just over half, which probably beats 80% of other T10 schools.

Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician. Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.

Also, I'll agree, talking about money aside is a little removed from reality, but it does give a good baseline of each school's value to you by it being an institution alone. The disparity in value between schools is something then we use to fuel compensation by money and scholarships.

Also, what's wrong with using abbreviations in online speak? It makes stuff faster to type... It's not like I say 'p much' in real life... If you understood what I said, then it was 100% effective.
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I don't usually get involved in this kind of stuff, but - How does not going to Stanford make someone a "plain old clinician?" Also, what's wrong with that? Sorry but please don't diminish other people's accomplishments for going to a school that is a good fit for them, even if that means it's not "highest ranked" or the most "prestigious." Med school is what you make of it. If you rely on the name of the institution to be successful, then maybe you are not going into it for the right reasons.
 
pennylane8991 said:
I don't usually get involved in this kind of stuff, but - How does not going to Stanford make someone a "plain old clinician?" Also, what's wrong with that? Sorry but please don't diminish other people's accomplishments for going to a school that is a good fit for them, even if that means it's not "highest ranked" or the most "prestigious." Med school is what you make of it. If you rely on the name of the institution to be successful, then maybe you are not going into it for the right reasons.
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It doesn't. I meant more as in private practice or just only clinical work. Not research oriented. Sorry if that wasn't clear. If that's your goal, then it doesn't make sense to pay out the nose for top med school over a full ride. But that's not everyone who goes to med school, and is a far cry for people who hope to go to top schools.

Also, your last part is honorable, but I very much disagree. Especially now that Step 1 is pass fail, name and prestige matters a lot more for residency. There is already a significant correlation of top med schools sending their students to top residencies without it being pass/fail, not to mention industry opportunities. Your your achievements and aspirations are your own, but I think it's false to say that relying on a name of an institution is bad. That's just how the world works.
 
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hellokittens said:
I haven't heard of a single school that has true pass fail clerkships. They all seem to be honors, high pass, pass, and fail. It's marketed as pass fail, but let's be real, it's pretty much graded.

Harvard's yield is the highest, but it's not like Stanford is low. It's at just over half, which probably beats 80% of other T10 schools.

Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician (as in no research, private practice). Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.

Also, I'll agree, talking about money aside is a little removed from reality, but it does give a good baseline of each school's value to you by it being an institution alone. The disparity in value between schools is something we then use to fuel compensation by money and scholarships.

Also, what's wrong with using abbreviations in online speak? It makes stuff faster to type... It's not like I say 'p much' in real life... If you understood what I said, then it was 100% effective.
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BTW, you can go to Stanford for residency or fellowship and get that Stanford mojo 🙂
 
hellokittens said:
Especially now that Step 1 is pass fail, name and prestige matters a lot more for residency. There is a significant correlation of top med schools sending their students to top residencies, not to mention industry opportunities.
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If you are worried about residency look at PD rankings.
 
hellokittens said:
I haven't heard of a single school that has true pass fail clerkships. They all seem to be honors, high pass, pass, and fail. It's marketed as pass fail, but let's be real, it's pretty much graded.

Harvard's yield is the highest, but it's not like Stanford is low. It's at just over half, which probably beats 80% of other T10 schools.

Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician (as in no research, private practice). Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.

Also, I'll agree, talking about money aside is a little removed from reality, but it does give a good baseline of each school's value to you by it being an institution alone. The disparity in value between schools is something we then use to fuel compensation by money and scholarships.

Also, what's wrong with using abbreviations in online speak? It makes stuff faster to type... It's not like I say 'p much' in real life... If you understood what I said, then it was 100% effective.
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You seem... interesting...
...makes me wonder what today’s zoom is all about...
 
hellokittens said:
I haven't heard of a single school that has true pass fail clerkships. They all seem to be honors, high pass, pass, and fail. It's marketed as pass fail, but let's be real, it's pretty much graded.

Harvard's yield is the highest, but it's not like Stanford is low. It's at just over half, which probably beats 80% of other T10 schools.

Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician (as in no research, private practice). Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.

Also, I'll agree, talking about money aside is a little removed from reality, but it does give a good baseline of each school's value to you by it being an institution alone. The disparity in value between schools is something we then use to fuel compensation by money and scholarships.

Also, what's wrong with using abbreviations in online speak? It makes stuff faster to type... It's not like I say 'p much' in real life... If you understood what I said, then it was 100% effective.
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I agree with most of what you said and am also aiming for academic medicine but I would also add that if you want to do research you should probably weigh debt alot since research almost always pays less than being a clinician.
 
hellokittens said:
I haven't heard of a single school that has true pass fail clerkships. They all seem to be honors, high pass, pass, and fail. It's marketed as pass fail, but let's be real, it's pretty much graded.

Harvard's yield is the highest, but it's not like Stanford is low. It's at just over half, which probably beats 80% of other T10 schools.

Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician (as in no research, private practice). Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.

Also, I'll agree, talking about money aside is a little removed from reality, but it does give a good baseline of each school's value to you by it being an institution alone. The disparity in value between schools is something we then use to fuel compensation by money and scholarships.

Also, what's wrong with using abbreviations in online speak? It makes stuff faster to type... It's not like I say 'p much' in real life... If you understood what I said, then it was 100% effective.
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This is tangential but Vanderbilt has true pass fail clerkships
 
Also lol, I would never take a full ride at a T20 or 30 over Stanford. Ever. I'd be willing to go into debt for that. Not everyone wants to be just a plain old clinician (as in no research, private practice). Research, and other institution connections matter a lot for people with different trajectories, such as being eventual faculty or business executives.
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You do you ofc but this seems like such a limited take. Going to a T20/T30 will in no way keep someone out of academic medicine. I literally work at Stanford lol and like 90% of the physicians in my department went to a school outside of the T10 (which I get the sense that you think are inferior), with some even coming from *gasp* outside of the T30. And they are amazing physicians who do amazing research, surprise!
 
roasted_oolong said:
You do you ofc but this seems like such a limited take. Going to a T20/T30 will in no way keep someone out of academic medicine. I literally work at Stanford lol and like 90% of the physicians in my department went to a school outside of the T10 (which I get the sense that you think are inferior), with some even coming from *gasp* outside of the T30. And they are amazing physicians who do amazing research, surprise!
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Lol ditto I work at a Tn institution too. There isn’t much correlation between rank and how well u do @ res! It’s what you do at the med school that’s more important. Also keeping debt low = nicer life later on. Going to a great rank school and tanking at it won’t get you as many brownie points as you may think.
 
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roasted_oolong said:
You do you ofc but this seems like such a limited take. Going to a T20/T30 will in no way keep someone out of academic medicine. I literally work at Stanford lol and like 90% of the physicians in my department went to a school outside of the T10 (which I get the sense that you think are inferior), with some even coming from *gasp* outside of the T30. And they are amazing physicians who do amazing research, surprise!
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Ditto coming from someone who has worked at HMS the last couple of years...
 
allmightyhall said:
you need to chill out. I don't know what it is about you but all your posts are extremely neurotic/gunner/extra. you either need to mature or you need a wakeup call because you are about to start medical school yet you remind me of a freshman premed prestige *****. i actually cannot tell if you are trolling or are serious in your posts half the time (part of me wishes you are trolling 100% of the time because i could tell you right now i don't look forward to matriculating somewhere i might have to deal with gunners and prestige ******).
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Yeah I don’t wanna be in his group. If zoom=A, I don’t wanna this guy’s teammate. Stanford admissions, take note.
 
roasted_oolong said:
You do you ofc but this seems like such a limited take. Going to a T20/T30 will in no way keep someone out of academic medicine. I literally work at Stanford lol and like 90% of the physicians in my department went to a school outside of the T10 (which I get the sense that you think are inferior), with some even coming from *gasp* outside of the T30. And they are amazing physicians who do amazing research, surprise!
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My interviewer was an IMG I think lol

The more I learn about academic medicine the more I find its actually alot more fluid than like say being a sociology professor or something.
 
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