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No one is Dragging CDU. People are spitting straight facts. Place is definitely hood. I lived here all my life. No one can say anything about the medical school curriculum since it has never been done before. Faculty are alright but not great.

I often question how certain people were allowed to teach or do research. Many of the faculty for the new medical school will be new, so who knows. UCLA is really the one who manages the CDU/UCLA program and many at CDU jumped ship when it came to the new school. Now, you tell me why???

The new MD Program has no relationship with the UCLA/CDU program. These students do well because they get the same education as UCLA students and receive a diploma from them. Again, not happening with the new school.

ain't no way this school should be priced like Keck, CUSM, and Loma Linda, its levels to this.
 
They've actually recruited faculty from UCLA for the new school. CDU also has a reputation in LA for great clinicians so I don't foresee problems for students wanting to match in LA. They have affiliations with Harbor-UCLA, the VA, and currently have a partnership with Kaiser in the works.

It won't be all bad. The price is ridiculous but it unfortunately is on par for many private schools, including new and DO schools.
 
And in terms of support and mentoring, I do not forsee a shortage of that at all. CDU has so many partnerships and alumni that specifically start programs, internships, mentoring networks, and other opportunities just for CDU students. They have a plethora of programs and internships for URM student interested in specialties like orthopedic surgery, derm, etc.

And the faculty there will really hold your hand every step of the way. They do for the current CDU/UCLA MEP students so I can only imagine how they will be for the new CDU cohort
 
Everyone just needs to chill on the UCLA comparison. Those resources are only for UCLA/drew students. Right now the university is scrambling to try to find people, they know they ain't got enough faculty to cover another 60 students. UCLA students often complain that they don't get enough exposure in Clerkship and this is about to make it worse for them and the new MD program. they have few affiliations but still, need many more to fit in everyone. guess, who gets priority? UCLA. on paper it looks good, but everyone knows they are just going to go with the flow once the program starts. i most def not giving them my 70K. I have already accepted another offer but i just want to make sure yall know what you are getting into.
 
^Thank you. Totally agree as I mentioned earlier y’all will see. UCLA prime and UCLA/ CDU gets priority easily over this new school.Before y’all come, I would say take a tour and don’t just pick solely because it’s an MD. Because when your applying to residency, an established institution looks better than a new school who’s still trying to figure out what’s going on. The curriculum won’t be the same either, a couple years ago they almost shut down the CDU/UCLA. This was because students were being admitted with lower stats and they didn’t do good on their step exams. After hard fighting they had to take a 360 to fix it before UCLA cut off the connection. I heard some CDU/UCLA staff aren’t even coming over to the new CDU because they want to live stress free-life.
 
wavyboys21 said:
^Thank you. Totally agree as I mentioned earlier y’all will see. UCLA prime and UCLA/ CDU gets priority easily over this new school.Before y’all come, I would say take a tour and don’t just pick solely because it’s an MD. Because when your applying to residency, an established institution looks better than a new school who’s still trying to figure out what’s going on. The curriculum won’t be the same either, a couple years ago they almost shut down the CDU/UCLA. This was because students were being admitted with lower stats and they didn’t do good on their step exams. After hard fighting they had to take a 360 to fix it before UCLA cut off the connection. I heard some CDU/UCLA staff aren’t even coming over to the new CDU because they want to live stress free-life.
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Interesting. I assume this is why the program is being revamped, and most people with lower stats got rejected.
 
The resources I personally discussed are not exclusive to MEP students. They quite literally promote them for all CDU students when it is an opportunity for interprofessional networking and collaboration. I can think of plenty relating to research, community advocacy, and mentorship. When it is exclusively for MEP students, well no duh, there hasn't been a solo CDU program in decades!

Also, as someone who was a lower stat applicant GPA wise (downward trend, transcript riddled with C's and D's), I believe CDU is and will continue to be holistic. My peers are not the highest stat applicants at UCLA (but we damn sure aren't the lowest!) But we have a wealth of lived experience and dedication to the mission that made our admission possible.

I have no doubt that CDU will continue being holistic and taking into account the lived experiences of those they select. Yes all in all the school is underfunded, tuition is high, and resources are not top tier. But no ****. It is a new school in the hood, designed to help patients IN the hood.

If you don't want to go there then don't apply. Otherwise, please let those who do want to apply, who are perhaps in need of a caring and holistic review committee, and who would love an A, apply in peace.

Good luck to yall in this cycle, no matter where you end up.

And to the future CDU Class of 2027, we can't wait to meet yall 🖤💛
 
Mikiras said:
The resources I personally discussed are not exclusive to MEP students. They quite literally promote them for all CDU students when it is an opportunity for interprofessional networking and collaboration. I can think of plenty relating to research, community advocacy, and mentorship. When it is exclusively for MEP students, well no duh, there hasn't been a solo CDU program in decades!

Also, as someone who was a lower stat applicant GPA wise (downward trend, transcript riddled with C's and D's), I believe CDU is and will continue to be holistic. My peers are not the highest stat applicants at UCLA (but we damn sure aren't the lowest!) But we have a wealth of lived experience and dedication to the mission that made our admission possible.

I have no doubt that CDU will continue being holistic and taking into account the lived experiences of those they select. Yes all in all the school is underfunded, tuition is high, and resources are not top tier. But no ****. It is a new school in the hood, designed to help patients IN the hood.

If you don't want to go there then don't apply. Otherwise, please let those who do want to apply, who are perhaps in need of a caring and holistic review committee, and who would love an A, apply in peace.

Good luck to yall in this cycle, no matter where you end up.

And to the future CDU Class of 2027, we can't wait to meet yall 🖤💛
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You can wish for whatever you want. facts are people w/ lower stats got rejected from UCLA/CDU program this year. They have a hard cut off now. Most UCLA students have no clue about the new program and I am sure you don't either. My info is vetted.

ask the people on this thread? and they will tell you who got rejected. Resources are exclusive to MEP because that's all they can handle. You've seen the struggles. Now, ask yourself how they are going to make it with 60 more students? tbh i wouldn't come here talking about being a low-stat student when your MCAT score says otherwise. Enough said.
 
Will CDU have any trouble getting full accreditation?
 
hanzi said:
Will CDU have any trouble getting full accreditation?
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I think that is the million-dollar question. I don't think anyone can answer that. They will have 4 years to figure it out, and if they hit all the milestones, they should be good. However, this will be difficult since they are under-resourced, but not impossible.
 
Alright that was mean. Sorry. Deleted it.

Personally felt a little attacked by the "low-stat" comment because my stats WERE a product of struggle.

LAnative32, your concerns are valid. However, we do have access to internal communications with the dean and understand that there are plenty of struggles associated with the school's opening.

But, again we cannot view everything as 100% negative and have to understand that this school was born out of decades of seeing a problem and wanting to fix it.
 
Mikiras said:
Alright that was mean. Sorry. Deleted it.

Personally felt a little attacked by the "low-stat" comment because my stats WERE a product of struggle.

LAnative32, your concerns are valid. However, we do have access to internal communications with the dean and understand that there are plenty of struggles associated with the school's opening.

But, again we cannot view everything as 100% negative and have to understand that this school was born out of decades of seeing a problem and wanting to fix it.
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Don't see what you put but was probably valid. Imagine the audacity of an applicant to proclaim that they know more about a med school and the admission process over an actual medical student at said school.

Anyways II yesterday so we'll see how it goes.
 
I think they are all valid concerns. Also I don’t think La Native took a shot he just stated a fact about the UCLA/CDU MEP program. He never talked about your low stat, he said “how can you talk about low stat if your mcat says otherwise”. Meaning lanative thinks you have a higher mcat than most applicants applying to CDU. Also it’s harder to speak especially, because let’s be 100 percent honest if they gave you CDU rather than Ucla/CDU I wonder if what your saying would be different….
 
LAnative34 said:
Everyone just needs to chill on the UCLA comparison. Those resources are only for UCLA/drew students. Right now the university is scrambling to try to find people, they know they ain't got enough faculty to cover another 60 students. UCLA students often complain that they don't get enough exposure in Clerkship and this is about to make it worse for them and the new MD program. they have few affiliations but still, need many more to fit in everyone. guess, who gets priority? UCLA. on paper it looks good, but everyone knows they are just going to go with the flow once the program starts. i most def not giving them my 70K. I have already accepted another offer but i just want to make sure yall know what you are getting into.
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If you have already accepted an offer elsewhere, why spew negativity here. Some of us are still waiting for an acceptance and we realize CDU might not be the best but we applied here and some of us earned an interview here. Hearing all your subjective negativity with no evidence is tainting our prospects. Stop being bitter, you got an A. Take it, be happy and go into the abyss
 
USN2MD said:
Don't see what you put but was probably valid. Imagine the audacity of an applicant to proclaim that they know more about a med school and the admission process over an actual medical student at said school.

Anyways II yesterday so we'll see how it goes.
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i'm 100% facts. MEP admission is more stats based. medical school admission process changes every year. No medical student would know much about it unless you were a part of adcom. the cdu md admission process is different from the MEP process. I'm currently a CDU student so I know because I know.
 
dreamzchaser said:
If you have already accepted an offer elsewhere, why spew negativity here. Some of us are still waiting for an acceptance and we realize CDU might not be the best but we applied here and some of us earned an interview here. Hearing all your subjective negativity with no evidence is tainting our prospects. Stop being bitter, you got an A. Take it, be happy and go into the abyss
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call it what you want its the truth. if you don't like it, probably shouldn't go to school here. just putting things out there so people know what they are getting into before they sign on the dotted line.
 
LAnative34 said:
got an invite and think you belong already. focus on getting accepted to the school first and then start talking. we will see whos right, just don't forget about who told you first
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But what exactly have you told us first? Let me try and list them all here...

1) CDU is a new school, underfunded, and will go through growing pains.​
Great... what new school doesn't go through this?​
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2) CDU has a high COA and is located in a less desirable area.​
CA is expensive and I'm not sure how this is a slight against the institution. If it is outside of your price range, don't attend or apply. Location has been extensively discussed. It appears to be a mission first school so they should be opening the new school in the location with the demographics of people they hope to be helping.​
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3) Being a new school with multiple other associated programs there will be a lack of resources, including rotation sites, resources, and professors.​
Unless you're admin, directly on the board of trustees, or are willing to expose your identity so we can understand your credentials this is just an opinion. This thread eerily resembles ICOM when it first opened its doors as a DO school. There was a lot of false information from "trusted sources" going around saying the school would fold, it's not trustworthy, or they won't have the resources to help students. Low and behold they are thriving with some impressive match results.​
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Not sure if I missed anything, but I would take ANYTHING anyone other than verified admin/adcoms say on an anonymous internet forum with a grain of salt. The simple fact is we don't know how CDU is going to do. They are a new school, and with a new school there comes some risk. It's up to the applicant to weigh those risks and make a decision on where they are attending.
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wavyboys21 said:
I think they are all valid concerns. Also I don’t think La Native took a shot he just stated a fact about the UCLA/CDU MEP program. He never talked about your low stat, he said “how can you talk about low stat if your mcat says otherwise”. Meaning lanative thinks you have a higher mcat than most applicants applying to CDU. Also it’s harder to speak especially, because let’s be 100 percent honest if they gave you CDU rather than Ucla/CDU I wonder if what your saying would be different….
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I specifically chose CDU/UCLA over full tuition scholarships elsewhere because I truly wanted to be in a cohort of diverse students.

If given the choice, CDU/UCLA > CDU, yes, because as I've REPEATEDLY STATED, there are hurdles and roadblocks to the new school.

However, let's say CDU/UCLA is off the table (because, plot twist, it might be). I would 1000% choose CDU over many of the schools I was accepted to, especially now that I know about all of the resources, faculty, and camaraderie given at the school.

At no point in time have I EVER said this school was going to be the bestest, school ever. Instead, I implored you all to be patient with it and to show some kindness towards those applicants who would love to be there or are praying for an II or an A to ANY US school. And to give grace to a school that is trying hard to fill the gap in black and brown physician representation.
 
iDoctel said:
But what exactly have you told us first? Let me try and list them all here...

1) CDU is a new school, underfunded, and will go through growing pains.​
Great... what new school doesn't go through this?​
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2) CDU has a high COA and is located in a less desirable area.​
CA is expensive and I'm not sure how this is a slight against the institution. If it is outside of your price range, don't attend or apply. Location has been extensively discussed. It appears to be a mission first school so they should be opening the new school in the location with the demographics of people they hope to be helping.​
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3) Being a new school with multiple other associated programs there will be a lack of resources, including rotation sites, resources, and professors.​
Unless you're admin, directly on the board of trustees, or are willing to expose your identity so we can understand your credentials this is just an opinion. This thread eerily resembles ICOM when it first opened its doors as a DO school. There was a lot of false information from "trusted sources" going around saying the school would fold, it's not trustworthy, or they won't have the resources to help students. Low and behold they are thriving with some impressive match results.​
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Not sure if I missed anything, but I would take ANYTHING anyone other than verified admin/adcoms say on an anonymous internet forum with a grain of salt. The simple fact is we don't know how CDU is going to do. They are a new school, and with a new school there comes some risk. It's up to the applicant to weigh those risks and make a decision on where they are attending.
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I don't think any admin will ever come here to tell you a school's deficiencies. I think everyone has valid points. I have heard many of these things myself from other people. I think we all just need to get along and share any information that would be beneficial for people to make their decision.
 
After March 15th, if this school's financial aid package is controversial for applicants who are accepted, you'll have a lot of cleaning up to do unfortunately more than now @gyngyn
 
Mikiras said:
I specifically chose CDU/UCLA over full tuition scholarships elsewhere because I truly wanted to be in a cohort of diverse students.

If given the choice, CDU/UCLA > CDU, yes, because as I've REPEATEDLY STATED, there are hurdles and roadblocks to the new school.

However, let's say CDU/UCLA is off the table (because, plot twist, it might be). I would 1000% choose CDU over many of the schools I was accepted to, especially now that I know about all of the resources, faculty, and camaraderie given at the school.

At no point in time have I EVER said this school was going to be the bestest, school ever. Instead, I implored you all to be patient with it and to show some kindness towards those applicants who would love to be there or are praying for an II or an A to ANY US school. And to give grace to a school that is trying hard to fill the gap in black and brown physician representation.
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I had a school advertise itself as "We're the best school... for some people." Individuals make choices for different reasons. Not everyone cares to go to the "best" school, not everyone cares to do a competitive speciality, not everyone cares to be located in a major metropolitan. Sometimes we don't get a choice and we go to the only school that gives us a shot. Other times we are fortunate to have an opportunity to consider multiple paths. At the end of the day you're the person who lives with the "consequences." If you wake up in the morning and feel like you're where you're supposed to belong, then sounds like you made the right choice.
 
gyngyn said:
Where there is information, share it.
Where there is disagreement, do so with civility.
Some posts have deleted as they added only heat and no light.
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It may have been heated, but discourse nonetheless. **I** found the 2-3 perspectives helpful. :shrug:
 
i may be wrong but i think @LAnative34 was just trying to give y’all his/her perspective on the school. not sure if what they said is factual, but i think they were jus giving a warning to those who are considering attending, and (to me) they were valid. i don’t think they were trying to put y’all down for considering the school if it’s ur only choice (tho they could’ve been nicer about it but then again so could have everyone in the convo) i jus think they were giving a warning that this may not be everything it’s cut out to be. anywho, i definitely understand both sides of the argument. i also feel like everyone should just relax and say their opinions in a non hostile way. we’re all here to learn
 
For those that got a call regarding an interview invitation, if it was a woman, do y’all remember her name?
 
Hello everyone, where did you send your thank you email? To admissions or to the individual people who interviewed you?
 
mdlove11 said:
Hello everyone, where did you send your thank you email? To admissions or to the individual people who interviewed you?
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i sent it to admissions n never received a reply so i don’t think they passed it on lol. if u have their individual emails id do that first
 
Did anyone receive a response after sending an Update Letter? I didn’t.
 
mdlove11 said:
Hello everyone, where did you send your thank you email? To admissions or to the individual people who interviewed you?
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In the informational session, they mentioned that any correspondence should be sent to admissions. Highly unlikely you get a response.
 
I couldn’t keep up with the dialogue but Dr Prothrow said this first class will need to have some grit. So to my non nphc community I recommend learning Invictus. And if you know it . I hope you learned it in a meaningful way
 
canihelp said:
I couldn’t keep up with the dialogue but Dr Prothrow said this first class will need to have some grit. So to my non nphc community I recommend learning Invictus. And if you know it . I hope you learned it in a meaningful way
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was this at the information session?
 
If you are from California and accepted to both Charles Drew and an established MD school that is OOS, but your family and S/O are both here in California, which school would you choose?
 
Hellohihihihello said:
If you are from California and accepted to both Charles Drew and an established MD school that is OOS, but your family and S/O are both here in California, which school would you choose?
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OOS,because I want to match into a competive residency. And be prepared as much as possible since I’m paying a lot of money for my Medical Degree. But at the end of day you have to sit down and realize what are your goals. Then ask how will this school support my goals, will I thrive and be happy here.
 
The NDA form has 215 people in it, so they may be sending out more interviews. I assume people cancelled last minute unless they’re just going over 200.

BTW remember people can see when you search them on LinkedIn unless you’re private. Lol thats why I was checking the form bc I didn’t recognize this person.
 
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