I have a question... I know CCLCM is "full tuition paid" for student who go there. Is that kinda like Cali where tuition is paid but there's another 30 grand in fees, or you still need really significant fin aid for some reason or another (is it just living expenses?) The CCLCM FinAid page confused me a little.
Your scholarship covers everything except living expenses and other non-school expenses like health insurance. Buying health insurance is required, although if you can be on your parents' health insurance, you can waive the Case health insurance. Assuming you have to borrow the full amount, you're talking about approximately $23,000 per year, give or take. Again, that is primarily to cover your living expenses.
I skated a whole 13.1 miles today without faceplanting, tripping, falling, losing balance, or planting any part of my body into the asphalt.
...On Sunday, I wasn't so lucky...
Hmm....
I'm going to go through tonight or tomorrow and add the commonly asked questions to the first post in this thread.
Let me know if you want some help. Or, more exactly, let vc7777 know. He has plenty of free time on his hands.
there is a really cool charity that is slated to donate 'scopes to my whole class).
You guys are getting actual microscopes? That's cool--they'll look nice gathering dust on some shelf in your apartment for the next five years.
Seriously, we don't use microscopes. All of the histo slides are online. It's nice of someone to give them to you, but you really won't need them at all.
CCLCM seems really cool because, this is just my impression-maybe I'm wrong, it's got a goodly research component, but it's not quite as research-focused (and therefore pigeonholing?) as MD-PhD. Essentially, I think it fits my stance on research--I enjoy it often, I believe it's absolutely essential to medicine, but it's not the only thing I want to do with my life. Or maybe I just got a wrong impression =X
No, that's not the wrong impression.
Do many (most?) CCLCM students go into academic/research medicine or instead do PP/Hospital jobs while maintaining a research focus?
That is the hope. The first class of students is just starting their second year of residency, so there aren't any data on how many ultimately end up where. But I do think most people will end up in academic medicine over private practice. That's my plan.
CCLCM's program sounds perfect.. just perfect.. I really like how you get to do an intensive basic science research component, and then the next summer, clinical research. I am really interested in research but I don't have much scientific experience
You don't need to have a lot of basic science (i.e., wet lab) experience, but you DO need to have some significant research experience of some type to be a successful applicant here. I'm not saying you in particular don't. I just want everyone to be clear that CCLCM is not the right program for people who have never done any research.
CCLCM seems like they give great exposure to a lot of different research in order to allow their students to figure out what direction they want their career to take.
I'd say this is accurate.
There's no way I could rationally commit to MD-PhD considering I wasn't a science major, but CCLCM seems like it has the perfect blend! I wish there were more programs like CCLCM (and I see other medical schools trying to open similar programs in the future).
There are at least two others that I know of with formal five-year research MD programs: Pitt's CSTP (offers partial scholarship) and Harvard's HST. But probably every school in the country will offer you the option to take a fifth year if you want to, including the Case UP.
I know I probably have zero chance of getting in, but I can't stop myself from dreaming!
Well, the only way you have zero chance of getting in is if you don't apply at all. So, if you think CCLCM is a good fit for you, then fill out the secondary and send that sucker in!
Of course, the University program also sounds awesome. Don't get me wrong!
I never thought I'd get in--CCLCMer laughed at me when I told her of my shock, and when I saw the area code for the call, I accidentally hung up in shock and accident.
Haha, you didn't tell me about that!
CCLCM doesn't care if you've done research for 20 years and published 100 papers. The school cares that you are interested in research and are willing to learn--learning is the easy part, but getting someone motivated is the hard part, so if CCLCM can find those who are motivated to learn, most of their job is done.
Again, just to clarify, you DO need to have research experience of some type in order to be a successful applicant to CCLCM. But it does not necessarily have to be bench research.
And as everyone will say, the whole process is a crapshoot
It's not really a crapshoot, in the sense that the adcomm doesn't accept people randomly. There IS an evaluation process going on. However, that process is definitely subjective, no doubt about that.
Right, I would like to think of the typical career options as laying on the "spectrum" of medicine from pure clinical to pure research as follows:
<----Clinical-----------------------------Research---->
MD----------MD/MS---------------MD/PhD--------------PhD
I like that representation.
Could anyone perhaps tell me how they view multiple MCAT scores (do they consider your most recent, best or all scores)? Thank you very much for your help
Are you talking about UP, CCLCM, or both?
For CCLCM, it depends. If your first score is ten years old, it's not going to affect anything. But if you've taken the MCAT three times during this past year, then the adcomm will consider the three scores together. They will look at trends in people's MCAT scores just like they look at trends in people's grades.
