2012-2013 Washington University in St. Louis Application Thread

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wangers5270 said:
Not everything has been uploaded yet but you can search by specialty here:
http://residency.wustl.edu/Residencies/WUSMMatch/Pages/Home.aspx
Last I checked all the surgery & internal medicine ones aren't online, but various other specialties (ophtho etc) are online
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chronicidal said:
See specifics at http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=991281

Some summary lists:

My more subjective impressions: About two-thirds matched into a program that's generally considered top tier (10-15) within that specialty or into a new ROAD (using the term liberally to include Rads, Rad Onc, Ophtho, Otolaryngology, Orthopedics, Plastic (aesthetic?) surgery, Dermatology) specialty. About one-third matched into a program that's generally considered elite tier (top 1-5?) within that specialty or into a new ROAD specialty program. The relative risk for falling into one of these categories if one is AOA vs. non-AOA is around 2-3.
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Thanks!
 
Just withdrew. To those still waiting: Good luck! To those who are matriculating: Have a great four years! Maybe I'll see you during residency.
 
wish i knew when the adcom meets again before the anticipated big wait-list move around may 15th.
 
Anyone know who to submit letters of interest/intent to?
 
Does Wash U St. Louis require SAT scores? I heard a rumor about this.
 
nysegop said:
Does Wash U St. Louis require SAT scores? I heard a rumor about this.
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They ask for them on the secondary application, but they're not required, nor do they factor in to decisions about admission. I think they must use the information for outreach/recruitment.
 
elevenses said:
They ask for them on the secondary application, but they're not required, nor do they factor in to decisions about admission. I think they must use the information for outreach/recruitment.
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I also wondered about that when I saw it on the secondary. I can't imagine what they'd use it for exactly. As if the MCAT isn't enough standardized test data for each applicant!
 
somethingdeep said:
I also wondered about that when I saw it on the secondary. I can't imagine what they'd use it for exactly. As if the MCAT isn't enough standardized test data for each applicant!
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My best guess is so that they can target HS and college students who are likely to be accepted for marketing materials. But it's definitely just a guess.

I had completely forgotten which SAT II subject tests I had taken before I had to look them up for the secondary. In fact, I still don't remember actually taking them, although I do remember not studying at all.
 
elevenses said:
My best guess is so that they can target HS and college students who are likely to be accepted for marketing materials. But it's definitely just a guess.

I had completely forgotten which SAT II subject tests I had taken before I had to look them up for the secondary. In fact, I still don't remember actually taking them, although I do remember not studying at all.
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Hm interesting. It would make sense that this school, with their reputation for going after high MCAT scorers, would pursue high schoolers who have already shown an aptitude for standardized tests :laugh:
 
I believe they collect the information so they can do studies on SAT vs MCAT vs STEP scores.
 
Sea Otter said:
I believe they collect the information so they can do studies on SAT vs MCAT vs STEP scores.
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When I first read this, I thought it would be a kind of weird thing because I was skeptical the admissions office has done this kind of analysis or is interested in it, whether internally or for publication.

Thinking about it some more, I think it might make sense for the following reason.

WashU has a small 'university scholars' program that accepts high school students to WashU undergrad into a kind of non-accelerated but semi-guaranteed admissions to the med school (only semi-guaranteed because you need to get a 3.8 GPA and a 36 to qualify). For the purposes of admission to this program, it would be useful to get some data from normal med school applicants to see how well SAT can predict MCAT and Step 1. I imagine it's not as useful to use it for the purpose of predicting whether normal med school applicants will be successful in med school, since they take the MCAT anyway.
 
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chronicidal said:
When I first read this, I thought it would be a kind of weird thing because I was skeptical the admissions office has done this kind of analysis or is interested in it, whether internally or for publication.

Thinking about it some more, I think it might make sense for the following reason.

WashU has a small 'university scholars' program that accepts high school students to WashU undergrad into a kind of non-accelerated but semi-guaranteed admissions to the med school (only semi-guaranteed because you need to get a 3.8 GPA and a 36 to qualify). For the purposes of admission to this program, it would be useful to get some data from normal med school applicants to see how well SAT can predict MCAT and Step 1. I imagine it's not as useful to use it for the purpose of predicting whether normal med school applicants will be successful in med school, since they take the MCAT anyway.
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Cool! I'd be curious to find out how many of the students in that program are successful getting the 3.8 and (especially) the 36.
 
We have no way to find out where on the wait list we are, right?
 
leon sandcastle said:
i thought it was unranked
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It very well may be. They must have some internal ranking to decide who gets spots when other people go elsewhere though. I just wish they at least told us what third we were in. Since ~500 people may be wait listed I wish I knew if I was even in contention for a spot.
 
why do they even waitlist 500 people? It's like they're just giving us false hope...I keep on wanting to withdraw from here because I am probably in the lower third and then I think...maybe, just maybe...
 
phillymed89 said:
why do they even waitlist 500 people? It's like they're just giving us false hope...I keep on wanting to withdraw from here because I am probably in the lower third and then I think...maybe, just maybe...
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Probably because they have a ton of waitlist movement? People who get into WUSTL have other great choices that are not in St. Louis...
 
so from last year's thread it seems like the first waitlist offers came in around May 11
 
leon sandcastle said:
so from last year's thread it seems like the first waitlist offers came in around May 11
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From years past, I've heard of people getting accepted the week before second look. I presume but am not sure they were off the waitlist.

From years past, I've heard of people getting accepted late April. I know they were off the waitlist.
 
From what I heard, they waitlist ~300 people. Hang in there folks!
 
Just withdrew; hopefully this opens up a scholarship for one of you guys 🙂
 
Anyone know if second year is curved or if everyone could theoretically get honors (even though that would be unlikely)?
 
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Second year is NOT curved. Instead, the H/HP/P/F cutoffs are pre-set at the beginning of each class. Thus, as Sea Otter hypothesized, everyone could theoretically get Honors in a class, just as everyone could get Pass.

Any other questions a current student could answer? Keep 'em coming.
 
condor87 said:
Second year is NOT curved. Instead, the H/HP/P/F cutoffs are pre-set at the beginning of each class. Thus, as Sea Otter hypothesized, everyone could theoretically get Honors in a class, just as everyone could get Pass.

Any other questions a current student could answer? Keep 'em coming.
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Thanks for the response! I know you have a more traditional curriculum so how much time are you typically in lecture?
 
Sea Otter said:
Thanks for the response! I know you have a more traditional curriculum so how much time are you typically in lecture?
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That really depends on the year and block. The least amount of time spent in lecture is the 1st semester during 1st year. Tuesday and Thursday are lecture from 8:30-12, while MWF is only lecture from 8:30-9:30 and then anatomy lab from 9:30-12. During this block, there's also 2-3 afternoons a week with an hour or so of lecture.

3rd block of 2nd year is the worst (Nov-Dec: GI/Derm/Endo). Lecture ran from 9-3 or 4 (with an hour for lunch) during that block.
 
I know this is a trivial question but...How are you guys addressing LOIs?
 
asert said:
How do you know? or just guessing?
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Based on last year's thread. People reported acceptances off waitlist on the Monday before May 15th. It was May 11th last year.

But it seems it has already started. finger crossed...
 
Just got accepted!! Got a call last Thursday/Friday actually, but was out of country so missed it. It's amazing!
 
Hi all. Does anyone know how binding the intent to matriculate form is? I'm on the waitlist for another school that will allow me to be closer to my family, but have to turn in a matriculation form here soon or decline my acceptance.
 
flyten said:
Hi all. Does anyone know how binding the intent to matriculate form is? I'm on the waitlist for another school that will allow me to be closer to my family, but have to turn in a matriculation form here soon or decline my acceptance.
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My understanding is that after the 15th you are only allowed to hold one acceptance, but are allowed to remain on as many waitlists as you want. If you are accepted from a waitlist, you must make a decision ASAP and withdraw from one of the schools so as to only have one active acceptance at a time. Once orientation starts, you must immediately withdraw from any waitlists you may still be remaining on. This said, I would double-check with the admissions office.
 
JUST GOT IN!!! I'm so excited!! This was far and away the best school I interviewed at.

See you guys there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
They called first, then two days later my status page changed to allow for online payment of the tuition deposit.

And congrats to people who just got accepted!

scruffy821 said:
Are they calling right now or emailing?
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Did the admission office send emails asking if we want to remain on waitlist? I remember seeing the thread that last year on May 15th they sent the emails, but I haven't gotten any emails yet.
 
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