2013-2014 SUNY Buffalo Application Thread

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swk11 said:
Dr. Severin assured us that no matter what time you interview n the cycle, your chances of bring accepted are the same. That's the point of the random review process. They can still accept people and have plenty of spots open for later.
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buffalove89 said:
I just want to add that it is in no way a random review cycle and it is very improbable that they make a decision as soon as your application is seen. If so, then why are there so many rejections are the end of the cycle, around March, as seen in previous threads. Is it by chance, year after year, that the last applications reviewed are those that they don't deem as interview worthy? If it were a true random review process, there would be as many rejections in the beginning of the cycle as there are at the end. However, this is not the case. Instead, you see a mass rejection in March. More than likely, they keep some applications on the back burner and when the end of the cycle comes, they let go of those that they might have looked at earlier in the year.

Just my two cents. I don't really see a problem with this process, but I do not believe that it is, in any way, transparent. If you want to see transparency, go to the forum for UA Phoenix Med. An admissions counselor went on throughout the cycle, answering questions, even as far as to divulge the number of interview spots left. UB is a great school and I would be more than happy to gain my medical education at this institution. However, if you look at the facts, it is not a true random review process.....despite what may be said by admissions.
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I agree with this statement whole heartedly, but I should mention that in 2009, to my shame and humiliation to admit this on sdn, I was rejected in January. You can take me at my word and believe me. And if you do, this should lead you to the conclusions that there are rejections prior to March. Whether or not prior to January, I cannot say, but personal experience dictates that such rejections are given at least by the beginning of January.
 
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mpcolon, I am not arguing that there are (limited) rejections previous to March. I have seen maybe 2 mentioned thus far in this thread. What I really do not understand is why you feel you need to come to UB's defense on these topics. You are not a current medical, nor to my knowledge were you asked to speak on behalf of their policies. People can dislike the process...and even complain about the process. The cycle is long and can be extremely frustrated. Why must you put down individuals who want to express their frustration at the very tedious time frame UB puts on some applications? This forum is available so people can converse about the process and express the very little control they may have.. If MD please does not like it, let him/her express it without comments on your behalf abut its fairness. We are adults, we what may be fair or unfair. However, we are all allowed to express frustration after 8 months of waiting (assuming since late summer) for one school to review our applications - whether the policy will be changed or not is not relevant.
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1) I find it ironic you are telling me that this is a forum meant to converse about the process yet, in the same paragraph, you tell me you can't understand why I come to UB's defense on these topics and I was not asked to speak of these things! Hypocritical, no?
2) You are allowed to express your opinions, as irrelevant as they may be, but I'm allowed to comment. And as a student, here at UB, I'll be damned if my school is going to continuously be attacked without defense, period!
 
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Glad you have such veneration for your school. Lets hope its reciprocated by an interview.
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They may not, but at the end of the day, when they have candidates, such as yourself applying, I can appreciate why and I don't take it personally. Every year, 4600 applicants, give or take a few hundred, apply. And it must not be easy for them to crush so many dreams, so many wants and wishes to go to our school, but they have too. I have a Ph.D. and I think I've accomplished a lot, but to be honest, so have you, so have so many and I'm not arrogant to think, or believe, I'm any more special and thus, I take them at their word when they say they are trying to take a "holistic" approach. They are trying to be "fair", even with this random review process so many of us, I included, don't really understand and appreciate. I don't believe they've always done the right thing and I do believe they need some work on a few areas (i.e. more openness) but, I do truly believe Dr. Severin et al. have wonderful intentions. If I'm lucky to be a part of it, that's awesome, but if not, I just hope the guy or gal who was chosen over me realizes how lucky they are and commits to the visions of helping underserved communities as UB has promised to do and I would love to do.

Anyways, I just don't think it is productive to comment about the process, because the truth is that's the way it is and the comments won't get us any where. What will get us somewhere is knowing what the interviews were like, what to expect, ideas for where to stay, what to do when we get to Buffalo, etc.. That's the real intention, I believe, sdn is for! But each their own! Didn't mean to start a whole thing about it...
 
All I gotta say is that I'm gonna get myself drugged with hot buffalo wings the day before the interview so that I can survive the cold lol.
 
Does anyone have any advice on preparation for this interview?
 
thruthewire said:
Does anyone have any advice on preparation for this interview?
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both interviews were low stress about 30 minutes each. very conversational, no really tough questions honestly. from what i saw other interviewees also had a good experience. just relax and prepare the same way you done for other interviews. best of luck
 
jab1990 said:
both interviews were low stress about 30 minutes each. very conversational, no really tough questions honestly. from what i saw other interviewees also had a good experience. just relax and prepare the same way you done for other interviews. best of luck
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Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.
 
so... do the mass waves of rejections start on march 31st or is there still a waiting period for the official letter after that ?
 
From what I have seen on past threads, rejections come a little before and a little after. However, some years they get behind and review into April. It appears to be rather variable depending on the cycle
 
Does this school accept updates? ( as in recent grades and a first author science publication)
 
buffalove89 said:
I just want to add that it is in no way a random review cycle and it is very improbable that they make a decision as soon as your application is seen. If so, then why are there so many rejections are the end of the cycle, around March, as seen in previous threads. Is it by chance, year after year, that the last applications reviewed are those that they don't deem as interview worthy? If it were a true random review process, there would be as many rejections in the beginning of the cycle as there are at the end. However, this is not the case. Instead, you see a mass rejection in March. More than likely, they keep some applications on the back burner and when the end of the cycle comes, they let go of those that they might have looked at earlier in the year.
Just my two cents. I don't really see a problem with this process, but I do not believe that it is, in any way, transparent. If you want to see transparency, go to the forum for UA Phoenix Med. An admissions counselor went on throughout the cycle, answering questions, even as far as to divulge the number of interview spots left. UB is a great school and I would be more than happy to gain my medical education at this institution. However, if you look at the facts, it is not a true random review process.....despite what may be said by admissions.
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I totally agree with your comments. All medical schools except UB process their applications in the order they were received and then issue interview-invitation, rejection or pre-interview hold. In doing so they reward candidates who have done their part and submitted their applications early. On the other hand UB medical school (in particular Dr. Severin) wants to reward slow and lethargic applicants who don't know how to do their part on time. To me this random review process is a façade to cover up their illogical selection process. It makes no sense that someone who applied in June/July would get no response from UB for 9 months, whereas someone who applied in October with similar credentials would get an interview in November. If Dr. Severin wants to call this process fair, someone needs to define the meaning of 'unfair' to me. (Note: mpcolon please don't respond to my post. Thanks!)
 
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LOL to the above statement.
 
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Just because it is a different logic from what you prefer doesn't make it ILlogical. So UB doesn't view how quickly you submit your application as an indicaton of how good a doctor you will become. So what?

It's more illogical in my opinion to complain about an aspect of their application process that was made very clear from the beginning.

I'm still waiting to hear back from UB, btw. So I do understand the anxiety that comes along with this process. But I knew - and was okay with - what I was signing up for.
 
Well J. Rosso responded to me pestering via email to inform me that they will be done reviewing applications by apr. 1st. I hope they really do wait until they have interviewed all applicants to fill their prospective class (so no one is essentially interviewing for a spot on the wait list)
 
I agree with justwhy. It is *extremely* frustrating to wait but in the end, whether it is done the regular way or the random way, medical schools will only invite applicants they believed are qualified. Whether you were interviewed early or late, Dr. Severin has emphasized that everyone has a shot and nobody is interviewing for waitlist. So if your stats are competitive and Buffalo likes your application, you should hear from them before the interview season is over and your chances are still good for getting an acceptance. Sucks to wait but they were really up front with it from the start.
 
justwhy said:
Just because it is a different logic from what you prefer doesn't make it ILlogical. So UB doesn't view how quickly you submit your application as an indicaton of how good a doctor you will become. So what?

It's more illogical in my opinion to complain about an aspect of their application process that was made very clear from the beginning.

I'm still waiting to hear back from UB, btw. So I do understand the anxiety that comes along with this process. But I knew - and was okay with - what I was signing up for.
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I would like to hear the logic for rewarding applicants who fail to submit their application early. Also, what data is there to support that those who are slow to turn their applications in would become great doctors?
 
human101 said:
I would like to hear the logic for rewarding applicants who fail to submit their application early. Also, what data is there to support that those who are slow to turn their applications in would become great doctors?
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What data is there to support that those who are fast to turn in their applications are better?
 
Ragingbuddha said:
I agree with justwhy. It is *extremely* frustrating to wait but in the end, whether it is done the regular way or the random way, medical schools will only invite applicants they believed are qualified. Whether you were interviewed early or late, Dr. Severin has emphasized that everyone has a shot and nobody is interviewing for waitlist. So if your stats are competitive and Buffalo likes your application, you should hear from them before the interview season is over and your chances are still good for getting an acceptance. Sucks to wait but they were really up front with it from the start.
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The problem me and others like me face is that we have a few acceptances from other medical schools and would like to make decision where to go at least a few month in advance. When UB doesn't respond to your application for 9 months, you start considering it as a silent rejection and start planning to attend another school because you need time to arrange housing, financial aid etc.
 
justwhy said:
What data is there to support that those who are fast to turn in their applications are better?
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No one is claiming that they are better, but they would certainly carryout their responsibilities on a timely manner.
 
human101 said:
The problem me and others like me face is that we have a few acceptances from other medical schools and would like to make decision where to go at least a few month in advance. When UB doesn't respond to your application for 9 months, you start considering it as a silent rejection and start planning to attend another because you need time to arrange housing, financial aid etc.
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That's understandable (I'm in the same boat), but we knew going into this that this was their process and that there was a chance we may not hear back until April. (At least, I knew this was their process, and therefore I don't really care - I know I'll hear back eventually. I find it surprising when people don't know the app process of schools they're applying to...) So, yeah it may not be ideal but it's just something you deal with.
 
starkidbee said:
That's understandable (I'm in the same boat), but we knew going into this that this was their process and that there was a chance we may not hear back until April. (At least, I knew this was their process, and therefore I don't really care - I know I'll hear back eventually. I find it surprising when people don't know the app process of schools they're applying to...) So, yeah it may not be ideal but it's just something you deal with.
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Knowing about it doesn't make the process fair. Since this a forum, just like you I have a right to express my opinion. Good luck to you.
 
human101 said:
No one is claiming that they are better, but they would certainly carryout their responsibilities on a timely manner.
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What data do you have to support that?

That was meant mostly as a joke. I say mostly because one example doesn't really indicate a pattern...

It's not that I don't understand your frustration. But just because it frustrates you doesn't mean the process is unfair. It means that it does not give an advantage to any student based on something which, as far as I know, has no correlation to their performance in medical school.

Maybe getting your application in early is a quality of the best doctors. Maybe it isn't. I don't know. And it looks like UB doesn't either.
 
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starkidbee said:
Or rush to turn in sloppy work, as I've seen many fellow applicants do. This 'debate' can be spun in any way you want...
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There is no excuse for sloppy work, those applicants will face the consequence. As far as I know most of the early applicants planned and prepared their application well in advance, such as, taking MCAT, getting LOR, preparing primary and secondary essays, sending their transcripts. This can only be done by well organized individuals. No matter what profession such individual go to, they will succeed.
 
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You know, I think we all need to RELAX! Dr. Severin is a great guy, he'll do the right thing. Let's have some faith people!
 
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mpcolon said:
Are we really arguing this? LOL...human101 is just bitter because he didn't receive an invitation to interview. Chances are, he'll be rejected. Secondly, I find it cowardly to complain about things behind a computer screen when no one knows your identity. At least with me, people know my identity and can look me up. If I have a complaint, there is no anonymity.
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mpcolon I requested you not to respond to my post, but knowing you that was too much to ask. So far I have received 12 interview invitations and the last 4 of them I have declined. I already have 4 acceptances and I am on waiting-list at three other schools. At this late in the admission process do you think I care whether UB invites me for interview or not. The reason I complain about the UB's random process because in my opinion it is unfair and illogical. I know a number of fellow students from Buffalo area who have decided to attend other schools instead of waiting for UB's random process to work for them. Even though you are sure that I will be rejected by UB, I wish you otherwise. Good luck to you. Hope you get your interview invitation soon.
 
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So if you don't like it then don't waste your time here, if you haven't noticed his process isnt fair for the most part. it is what it is. Stop all these damn arguments they are just pathetic at this point. Hey if the random review is unfair, well the 1 week turn around is as fair as it gets..they dont jerk you around for 2-3 months in limbo. You obviously will go to one of the 4 schools that accepted you. gl buddy!
 
jab1990 said:
So if you don't like it then don't waste your time here, if you haven't noticed his process isnt fair for the most part. it is what it is. Stop all these damn arguments they are just pathetic at this point. Hey if the random review is unfair, well the 1 week turn around is as fair as it gets..they dont jerk you around for 2-3 months in limbo. You obviously will go to one of the 4 schools that accepted you. gl buddy!
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jab1990, who are you to judge others? Being a Buffalo native and UB graduate I have a vested interest in seeing UB med school admits qualified local residents of Buffalo and UB undergrads in a timely fashion so that they don't have to leave the area. We need more of our young residents to stay in the area rather than leave. Hope you understand that.
 
Im pretty sure thats not an issue whether its a random or traditional selection process
 
Not everyone seeking acceptance to medical school is straight out of undergrad, with the ability to devote 100% of their time to the application process. In fact, I think that the above discussion underscores a larger issue. Why are some aspiring doctors, individuals striving to enter an altruistic profession, seemingly so narrow-minded? Each applicant is unique, as will be every future patient that you encounter. With diversity comes imperfection. Say your patient is an overweight, 45 year-old male with high blood pressure who just doesn't seem to be following your advice on diet and exercise. Will you employ a similarly judgmental approach with this man, imploring as to how he could possibly be so careless with himself and callously warning of the consequences? Or, will you take a moment to consider the situation from his standpoint and simply ask, "why?". Perhaps he is a stress eater or is depressed, and could benefit from therapy, or maybe he is unsure of how to go about changing his lifestyle, and needs the help of a nutritionist, or, perhaps, your patient has been following your advice but is not losing weight or lowering his blood pressure because of an undiagnosed, potentially serious medical condition. Since you have been accepted into medical school, a major accomplishment in and of itself, I would ask you to never forget the value of perspective–in medicine and in life.
 
UB has no trouble retaining locals. For the last several years the average stats of each class have increased. I'm not saying it's the most logical or even best, but it's certainly not a deterrent for every solid applicant. It was actually a benefit for several of my qualified classmates who were not straight out of undergrad. The one thing I like about random review is it keeps the hyper intense crazies away, we have relatively cooperative, relaxed classes except for a few in each. Maybe random review ensures the anal-retentives withdraw from the sheer horror of potentially having to wait.
 
Public_Health said:
Not everyone seeking acceptance to medical school is straight out of undergrad, with the ability to devote 100% of their time to the application process. In fact, I think that the above discussion underscores a larger issue. Why are some aspiring doctors, individuals striving to enter an altruistic profession, seemingly so narrow-minded? Each applicant is unique, as will be every future patient that you encounter. With diversity comes imperfection. Say your patient is an overweight, 45 year-old male with high blood pressure who just doesn't seem to be following your advice on diet and exercise. Will you employ a similarly judgmental approach with this man, imploring as to how he could possibly be so careless with himself and callously warning of the consequences? Or, will you take a moment to consider the situation from his standpoint and simply ask, "why?". Perhaps he is a stress eater or is depressed, and could benefit from therapy, or maybe he is unsure of how to go about changing his lifestyle, and needs the help of a nutritionist, or, perhaps, your patient has been following your advice but is not losing weight or lowering his blood pressure because of an undiagnosed, potentially serious medical condition. Since you have been accepted into medical school, a major accomplishment in and of itself, I would ask you to never forget the value of perspective–in medicine and in life.
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I'm going to chime in to this argument just because I have a strong opinion. I have no issue with the UB process, as an above poster mentioned knowing what we're signing up for. Some get lucky with the draw and some may feel screwed. I'm sure there are reasons and it has worked to their satisfaction. FYI, I am one of those people who applied on day 1 and has yet to be reviewed (apparently).

Applying to medical school is not something that should be half-assed, though I sympathize with those who have obstacles in the way. You can talk about "imperfection" and "altruism" all you want, but a big part of being a doctor is professionalism... and a big part of that is timeliness. If one is not able to apply on time, they should suffer consequences.

People should not expect acceptance to medical school if they have a late or sloppy application -- there will be 100 other people who had the foresight to understand how to approach the cycle (and enter at the proper time with their stuff together). Not being straight out of undergrad gives one less of an excuse to have a late application.

To end on a nice note... I hope we all hear back in our favor soon!😀
 
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As long as one applies by the Nov 15 deadline, they are on time. Your June app is no more on time than another applicants October app. What people here are referring to is applying EARLY, in life being extremely early isn't always rewarded either. There are many NIH grants that don't review a single app until the deadline, is that unjust? In fact waiting until the deadline is more normal in real life.
True random review would not review any apps until Nov15, but at UB there is still some advantage to applying early. If they start handing out II in August and I don't apply until October your name has several chances to be pulled before I even apply.
 
johnamo said:
I'm going to chime in to this argument just because I have a strong opinion. I have no issue with the UB process, as an above poster mentioned knowing what we're signing up for. Some get lucky with the draw and some may feel screwed. I'm sure there are reasons and it has worked to their satisfaction. FYI, I am one of those people who applied on day 1 and has yet to be reviewed.

Applying to medical school is not something that should be half-assed, though I sympathize with those who have obstacles in the way. You can talk about "imperfection" and "altruism" all you want, but a big part of being a doctor is professionalism... and a big part of that is timeliness. If one is not able to apply on time, they should suffer consequences.

People should not expect acceptance to medical school if they have a late or sloppy application -- there will be 100 people who had the foresight to understand how to approach the cycle (and enter at the proper time with their stuff together). Not being straight out of undergrad gives one less of an excuse to have a late application.

To end on a nice note... I hope we all hear back in our favor soon!😀
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"Timeliness" is a relative term. When should an applicant apply to be considered timely? First week AMCAS opens? First month? First two months? Is the applicant who submitted in August less timely than the one who submitted in June? It's important to remember that the official deadline is actually in October, so everyone who had a completed application did meet the deadline.
 
Also all of this complaining is like applying to an MMI school and complaining about them doing MMI. This is how UB does it, there are pros and cons, but it's how it is. It's not helpful to this thread or the people who want info on applying, interviewing, the school etc. If you are a student here next year join student government or admissions and make your voice heard. As an applicant if you want to discuss this topic that won't change this year ad nauseam I'd suggest starting a complaining about UBs admissions thread.
As a med student my time is limited and I subscribe to only this thread on SDN in hopes to help prospective students with questions about the school. This complaint comes up every two weeks or so, and makes it hard to stay up to date on this thread.
 
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Am I the only person who truly believes this arguing is a waste of time? With due respect to everyone, human101, will not change his opinion. No matter how many good points each of us brings up. And, to be honest, rightfully so! His arguments, as arrogant and entitled as they may be read in tone, are valid concerns shared by many applicants. However, my biggest issue with him--and others--is that he never contacted the admissions office, which is the most appropriate venue to express his concerns. Instead, behind a computer screen, he bitches about a process none of us can really change!

Secondly, we all would bring something unique and amazing to UB, but unfortunately, there are 144 spots and 4500 +/- a 100 applicants. Is there a right way to screen all of us? Probably not! There are multiple solutions and multiple tactics over the years that have been employed. My point to this is the following: all of you complaining about how UB does business as usual should keep in mind that they have been doing this for far longer than you and have experience and wisdom in these matters that we should respect. Which, I feel, we are not by commenting on their process rather than commenting on other legitimate concerns that the medical school is having and has had.

Anyway, I'm done with this. How about that snow storm tomorrow! 18 inches, who believes it?
 
HeyNumber2 said:
This complaint comes up every two weeks or so, and makes it hard to stay up to date on this thread.
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If a complain comes up every two weeks then there must be some validity in it. The 'random review' process is unique to UB med school. No other med school or even other professional schools in UB (management, pharmacy, engineering, law) have such a process. As applicants we don't have any leverage to even complain about it to the admission office. Thus, we can only vent our frustration at this forum. As a med student at UB you may be able at least convey our complain. Sorry if our complains offend you and others. We greatly appreciate the help you and others like you provide to prospective students. Please continue the good work.
 
I sent Mr. Rosso an email inquiring about whether or not that April 1st deadline was true and this is the response:

Hi Michael,


The Screening Committee must be completed by April 1st so we can invite those candidates that the Committee wants to invite for the month of April. Our last interview session is at the end of April.


Our Freshman Medical Class is not completely filled. We currently have 119 candidates in the class of 140, and it does change due to turnover. Candidates who are interviewed in April have as good a chance of being accepted as a candidate interviewed last October. I hope this clarifies things a little. Best regards.


Mr. Rosso

I hope this helps everyone! I know we are all anxious, believe me, every day I check my email 30 times AND I'm on the status check website every hr., so believe me, I get it. I invested everything into UB and I want this too, but I think part of the reason for this frustration and arguing is the panic. We know the list of spots are dwindling and for some of us, this is our last chance to get into medical school this year. But, ladies and gentlemen, it's not over, they have spots, and I say, let's all take them at their word and believe them when they say they'll get to all of us. They'll read all of our applications and there are spots for which we all can interview for!

BTW...It is 8:04 a.m. in Buffalo and still no snow? I thought another Blizzard was coming! LOL
 
mpcolon said:
I sent Mr. Rosso an email inquiring about whether or not that April 1st deadline was true and this is the response:

Hi Michael,


The Screening Committee must be completed by April 1st so we can invite those candidates that the Committee wants to invite for the month of April. Our last interview session is at the end of April.


Our Freshman Medical Class is not completely filled. We currently have 119 candidates in the class of 140, and it does change due to turnover. Candidates who are interviewed in April have as good a chance of being accepted as a candidate interviewed last October. I hope this clarifies things a little. Best regards.


Mr. Rosso

I hope this helps everyone! I know we are all anxious, believe me, every day I check my email 30 times AND I'm on the status check website every hr., so believe me, I get it. I invested everything into UB and I want this too, but I think part of the reason for this frustration and arguing is the panic. We know the list of spots are dwindling and for some of us, this is our last chance to get into medical school this year. But, ladies and gentlemen, it's not over, they have spots, and I say, let's all take them at their word and believe them when they say they'll get to all of us. They'll read all of our applications and there are spots for which we all can interview for!

BTW...It is 8:04 a.m. in Buffalo and still no snow? I thought another Blizzard was coming! LOL
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This post made my morning.
 
Public_Health said:
Why are some aspiring doctors, individuals striving to enter an altruistic profession, seemingly so narrow-minded?
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Someone having a different opinion (on random review process) from yours gets branded as "narrow-minded". If this is your open-minded behavior, I rather be called narrow-minded
 
human101 said:
Someone having a different opinion (on random review process) from yours gets branded as "narrow-minded". If this is your open-minded behavior, I rather be called narrow-minded
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It is not that you have a different opinion.

There is no excuse for sloppy work, those applicants will face the consequence.
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That's pretty brutal. If you can't think of other reasons why people might submit later (professors tardy with LOR, sudden issues, non-trad, full time work, etc.). I hope that you keep your mind open to possibilities when treating patients instead of generalizing so broadly. You are pretty successful in your cycle, so this bitterness towards fellow applicants and the school is surprising. This is a long, complicated, stressful cycle as you know and have been making it very clear here. It takes some stroke of luck to have everything lined up properly by day one.

If a complain comes up every two weeks then there must be some validity in it.
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It seems like a few people are the ones venting (n= very small), which is fine but wouldn't be significant. Why don't you just call admissions. Your one viewpoint probably won't matter as you said, but if many other like-minded applicants do the same, then it might change. However, keep in mind that others will have different opinions than you and are content with this system.

we can only vent our frustration at this forum
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It is past the point of frustration and is being detrimental to this forum since every post is an argument back and forth between different views. You could vent to your friends instead, as they will be more sympathetic than people here. I think the longer you stay arguing with people, the more bitter you will become.

In the end, you are successful. Go where life takes you and be flexible. Some advice would be to plan as though you have no acceptance here and get your plans in order. It is part of life to adapt and if you get an acceptance later to Buffalo, you can decide whether it is worth it rearrange. The hassle involved is temporary only and monetary-wise, it will be a drop in the bucket compared to medical school tuition (or tuition you may be saving from state school, buffalo residence etc.). Don't be bitter, appreciate your position. You will be a doctor and I would like to work with fellow doctors in the future who are compassionate and focus on providing solutions.
 
Ragingbuddha said:
It is not that you have a different opinion.


(There is no excuse for sloppy work, those applicants will face the consequence)
That's pretty brutal. If you can't think of other reasons why people might submit later (professors tardy with LOR, sudden issues, non-trad, full time work, etc.). I hope that you keep your mind open to possibilities when treating patients instead of generalizing so broadly. You are pretty successful in your cycle, so this bitterness towards fellow applicants and the school is surprising. This is a long, complicated, stressful cycle as you know and have been making it very clear here. It takes some stroke of luck to have everything lined up properly by day one.
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Or rush to turn in sloppy work, as I've seen many fellow applicants do.

My sloppy work comment was based on starkidbee's comment (see above). There is a big difference in being sloppy and turning in late. Having gone through the med school admission process I fully understand many reasons for being unable to submit early. However, that does not justify using a process that holds review of early applicants till the end, instead of "first come first serve" basis, as it is done in everything else in life including college admissions. Why would I be bitter towards my fellow applicants or anything else? I feel extremely lucky and happy to have acceptances from medical schools, and I wish the same to everyone of you. The tone of your post indicates that you are the one who is becoming bitter. Take it easy. Don't have to get mad.
This would be the last post from me on this topic. Wish you the best.
 
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