2019-2020 Iowa (Carver)

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Is there some Facebook group for accepted people?
Congrats on getting in too! I don't post much on this page but I remember your waitlist spot was right around mine last year! So excited we get to be classmates next year :)

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Congrats on getting in too! I don't post much on this page but I remember your waitlist spot was right around mine last year! So excited we get to be classmates next year :)
Love to see it, congrats! Patience and dedication pays off. See you at Carver!
 
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Could any current students comment on the effectiveness/usefulness of the IMEI program?

Hi Catkitten. Med student at UIOWA. I highly recommend IMEI. You only cover a small fraction of the material you would learn in medical school. However, one of the most challenging aspects of starting preclinicals is the difference in intensity of coursework between undergrad and med school. Most people have to change their study methods to optimize their learning. There is learning curve in the beginning. IME gives you invaluable time to figure out your best study method, and a buffer of knowledge when you first start med school.

And join on to the CCOM class of 2024 facebook group. I serve as the admin!

 
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Can someone explain what a "relatively high" number on the OOS waitlist is. I'm in the upper 50s on the OOS waitlist and want to know if it is ridiculous of me to think that I could get an offer.

The OOS waitlist is variable and can actually move a decent amount, the IS waitlist seems more restricted. In the 50s, you might have a decent chance of getting in! Good luck to you! A high number is probably anything over #75.
 
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Has anyone that got accepted from the final pool received the criminal background check? The pre-m1 checklist says we were supposed to receive it immediately
 
I have moved a total of 8 spots since being final pooled and moved 1 spot between yesterday and today. (OOS)
I’ve moved 6 spots just on the day I was WLed so getting anxious and don’t know if I should be checking every day lol
 
I’ve moved 6 spots just on the day I was WLed so getting anxious and don’t know if I should be checking every day lol

Most of my movement was in the first day haha, but I have moved two spots in the last week. I think you can check it every week if you want, but the big days to check would be 4/15, 4/30, and 7/20.
 
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I am on OOS list and have had no movement whatsoever. Still on the same spot I started...
 
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Could any current students comment on the effectiveness/usefulness of the IMEI program?
Enjoy your summer. There will be plenty of school to fill your time this fall.
 
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Not that I think match lists are that useful in making school choices, they are always fun to peruse for your future school!
 
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I am on OOS list and have had no movement whatsoever. Still on the same spot I started...
That must mean you are closer to acceptance than those that do have movement :)
 
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Do we know if the admissions office is in right now? Maybe they're off due to corona virus or they're working from home? I'm getting so anxious on the waitlist waiting for it to move.
 
Updated MSAR says 12 IS and 54 OOS accepted off the waitlist last year!
 
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Do we know if the admissions office is in right now? Maybe they're off due to corona virus or they're working from home? I'm getting so anxious on the waitlist waiting for it to move.
Highly doubt they are in the office. Everyone that isn’t directly working with patients is working from home. Also the waitlist movement is automatic so it doesn’t matter if admissions is working or not. As soon as someone withdraws, the email is sent to the next person on the list.

Updated MSAR says 12 IS and 54 OOS accepted off the waitlist last year!
IS Waitlist usually moves at least 20 spots most years. Last year was a weird year and people in admissions were also surprised it only moved 12 spots. So assuming last year was just an unusual year, the waitlist should move closer to 20 spots. OOS waitlist is very unreliable so it’s hard to predict. I’ve heard of years it moved around 25 spots and other years it moved to almost in the 70s
 
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At this point will sending a letter of interest/update help? Or is our only chance of moving up the WL if people ahead of us in line withdraw?
 
Based on the PowerPoint they sent us, is there really only 27 students so far?
 
It shows the pics of the incoming class. It’s actually in the ICON modules I believe.
 
That PowerPoint confuses me. I know 3 accepted students planning to go here and none are on the PowerPoint....
 
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I thought that number was small. I think it’s people that sent in their picture for second look only?
 
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I thought that number was small. I think it’s people that sent in their picture for second look only?
I on the WL so did not get the PPT but I’m guessing these 27 are people who have already done the commit to attend CTE thing on AMCAS?
 
I am committed to Carver and have accepted their offer, but I did not submit a picture.
 
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Where did people submit photos? I don’t remember seeing a place to do that.
 
Does anyone have any questions about CCOM? We've been pulled from clinical duties and I have too much free time.
 
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Does anyone have any questions about CCOM? We've been pulled from clinical duties and I have too much free time.
How was your experience with MECO (if you did it) and/or other classmates experiences with the program?
 
How was your experience with MECO (if you did it) and/or other classmates experiences with the program?
I did research. I think the people who did it enjoyed it. More money for research though, and able to stay in town.
 
Has anyone received a merit scholarship recently or heard if they are still being awarded?
 
If your looking for a roommate now or in the future, on the fb page there is a google doc where you can list ur info just FYI
 
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Is the curriculum here organ based + Cased based learning?
Systems-based. Some of the system groupings don't make any sense. For instance, the first MOHD (mechanisms of health and disease) test covers cardiac physio and genetic disorders, very frustrating.

CBL (cased-based learning) is weekly. I found it more of a nuisance than anything else, not sure about others.
 
It is actually system-based in a repeating fashion. As @GoCubsGo20 said above, the course MOHD 1 covers "oxygenation, metabolism, and genetics". In practice this translates to learning about normal genetics, cardiovascular, pulmonary, GI, and renal. The course MOHD 3 at the end of the spring semester circles back and covers the pathology and diseases of these systems. MOHD 3 is also where pharmacology and both normal and abnormal reproduction is taught.

This is similar to MOHD 2, which is taken at the start of M1 Spring, which covers "Immunology, inflammation, Locomotion/integument, and neuropsychiatry". So here is where you learn about immunology, microbiology, derm, MSK, neurology, and psychiatry, with a circle back for the disease processes in MOHD 4.

Finally, the last class of pre-clinical is MOHD Keystone, which aims to cover all of these topics again from a more clinical perspective.

I personally enjoyed the structure and found it taught to the boards well (even with in-house exams). And even though some people may not like CBL, and it is a bit of required time that can be inconvenient, I think the cases and presentations are useful for developing skills that translate to the clinical arena.
 
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Still no movement (OOS)! Really hoping there would be something by now.
 
Still no movement (OOS)! Really hoping there would be something by now.
I feel that so hard
i was cautiously optimistic based on last years movement but now not so much haha
 
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Systems-based. Some of the system groupings don't make any sense. For instance, the first MOHD (mechanisms of health and disease) test covers cardiac physio and genetic disorders, very frustrating.

CBL (cased-based learning) is weekly. I found it more of a nuisance than anything else, not sure about others.
It is actually system-based in a repeating fashion. As @GoCubsGo20 said above, the course MOHD 1 covers "oxygenation, metabolism, and genetics". In practice this translates to learning about normal genetics, cardiovascular, pulmonary, GI, and renal. The course MOHD 3 at the end of the spring semester circles back and covers the pathology and diseases of these systems. MOHD 3 is also where pharmacology and both normal and abnormal reproduction is taught.

This is similar to MOHD 2, which is taken at the start of M1 Spring, which covers "Immunology, inflammation, Locomotion/integument, and neuropsychiatry". So here is where you learn about immunology, microbiology, derm, MSK, neurology, and psychiatry, with a circle back for the disease processes in MOHD 4.

Finally, the last class of pre-clinical is MOHD Keystone, which aims to cover all of these topics again from a more clinical perspective.

I personally enjoyed the structure and found it taught to the boards well (even with in-house exams). And even though some people may not like CBL, and it is a bit of required time that can be inconvenient, I think the cases and presentations are useful for developing skills that translate to the clinical arena.

Thanks to you both, that clears it up a bit. Seems like it's kinda of like a weird spin on a traditional curriculum. Can you guys speak about any changes you feel will come regarding step p/f? I know you guys take it beginning 3rd year, or what are your thoughts on it? Also, how have your rotation experiences been and how cohesive have you been with your class regarding competitiveness or hanging out?
 
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Just withdrew acceptance! Hoping it goes to one of you waiting to hear!!
 
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Thanks to you both, that clears it up a bit. Seems like it's kinda of like a weird spin on a traditional curriculum. Can you guys speak about any changes you feel will come regarding step p/f? I know you guys take it beginning 3rd year, or what are your thoughts on it? Also, how have your rotation experiences been and how cohesive have you been with your class regarding competitiveness or hanging out?

I am an M4, so I cannot speak to the P/F aspect, haven't thought much about it.

Step 1 is currently taken at the end of core clinical rotations, which would be in January/February of your M3 year. I thought it was really nice to have the NBME shelf exams done prior to Step 1, as it made a lot of the questions more approachable. There is of course basic science atrophy which needs to be addressed, but it is quite doable.

Rotations place you with anywhere from zero to 1/16 of your class (maybe 10 ish people), rather than large groups. I found it an enjoyable experience to work with students I had not really interacted with much before. I never saw any real competition, but maybe I just ignored it.
 
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Thanks to you both, that clears it up a bit. Seems like it's kinda of like a weird spin on a traditional curriculum. Can you guys speak about any changes you feel will come regarding step p/f? I know you guys take it beginning 3rd year, or what are your thoughts on it? Also, how have your rotation experiences been and how cohesive have you been with your class regarding competitiveness or hanging out?
I've no thoughts or information on step 1 and the changes that will come to the curriculum, if any.

Carver is competitive, my class (M3) is at least. Throughout rotations I've heard of several study guides floating around that weren't intended to be shared. True story: I received a study guide from a resident and sent it to everyone on the same clerkship. Someone admitted to me that they wouldn't have shared it but it was "nice of me to do so." I've seen lots of judgement passed on to classmates for asking a question that they "should already know." I found all of it very frustrating and have since limited my interactions with those people - as a result I've been much happier. I can speak for several friends as well who feel the same and have done the same.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Carver and would chose it again. But, all the "we are like one big family" talk that you heard at interviews and second look is nonsense.
 
Thanks to you both, that clears it up a bit. Seems like it's kinda of like a weird spin on a traditional curriculum. Can you guys speak about any changes you feel will come regarding step p/f? I know you guys take it beginning 3rd year, or what are your thoughts on it? Also, how have your rotation experiences been and how cohesive have you been with your class regarding competitiveness or hanging out?
Current M2 here. I've got to say the competitiveness probably differs from class to class. My class often shares study resources (study guides, Anki decks, tips from residents etc.). Students often send things out to the class in GroupMe and I'm in smaller group chats where we share everything we know about a prior clerkship. Of course you have your gunners anywhere who will do anything to get an edge, but overall I think the M2s do a great job with collaboration. Your class has the opportunity to set the tone for who you are going to be, collaborators or gunners. In my opinion, it's easier to be a collaborator at CCOM, but that's just my experience.
 
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Current M2 here. I've got to say the competitiveness probably differs from class to class. My class often shares study resources (study guides, Anki decks, tips from residents etc.). Students often send things out to the class in GroupMe and I'm in smaller group chats where we share everything we know about a prior clerkship. Of course you have your gunners anywhere who will do anything to get an edge, but overall I think the M2s do a great job with collaboration. Your class has the opportunity to set the tone for who you are going to be, collaborators or gunners. In my opinion, it's easier to be a collaborator at CCOM, but that's just my experience.
Glad it's that way for M2s. Admittedly, I think there are more kind people than not in our class. But, there are a surprising amount of people who only think for themselves and close friends.
 
I agree that it must vary class to class. Our M4 class was full of people who shared their personal resources, posted study guides they found, and helped bring the group up as a whole. I am sure there are people like @GoCubsGo20 mentioned, as there will be in any group, but they must have been a small minority.
 
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I agree that it must vary class to class. Our M4 class was full of people who shared their personal resources, posted study guides they found, and helped bring the group up as a whole. I am sure there are people like @GoCubsGo20 mentioned, as there will be in any group, but they must have been a small minority.
Our class must be unique. Very rarely were study guides shared during clerkship year. I didn't receive even one.
 
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