2019-2020 Kaiser (Tyson)

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uclabruin1919 said:
My secondary link STILL isn't working and I received the invite on 07/01...
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We are still in that boat together bruin buddy
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Ducatiboy said:
my link isnt working either, before i was able to access, but seems like something is wrong
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Did you all try opening the link in another browser? Some of my secondary apps work fine in Chrome but not IE. Also, I noticed the link to the secondary page has something like "create" at the end of the url (and takes you to the page where you create your password). After I created my password, I used the same link but deleted "create" from the end, and then it took me to the right login page.
 
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MrsDrDr said:
Did you all try opening the link in another browser? Some of my secondary apps work fine in Chrome but not IE. Also, I noticed the link to the secondary page has something like "create" at the end of the url (and takes you to the page where you create your password). After I created my password, I used the same link but deleted "create" from the end, and then it took me to the right login page.
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I've been using this link:
Kaiser Permanente School of Medicine
but i tried it in chrome and firefox and still hasnt worked. all my other secondary links work, so it isnt a wifi issue for me
 
Hi, received my secondary today. I created a password but what do I put for the username since I don't remember created one.
 
HopeIsStrength said:
Hey y'all, any updates on the secondary link?
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Well I think i figured it out. I was traveling internationally and couldn't access the link at all. Now i'm back in the US, and the secondary link works. Are you out of the country?
 
Is there a screening for MCAT scores? They don’t say on the website at least not that i can find. I just want to know what my real chances are at this school lol
 
There are no MCAT cutoffs per their FAQ on their website.

Without any knowledge of what they plan to do, I would expect that free tuition coupled with being located in California, that they will get their pick of students.
 
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Ducatiboy said:
Well I think i figured it out. I was traveling internationally and couldn't access the link at all. Now i'm back in the US, and the secondary link works. Are you out of the country?
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Well I'll be darned perhaps you're right. I'm out of state af
 
EmbryonalCarcinoma said:
They are trying to recruit people from all over the country, according to their website. I’m OOS and got a secondary in June!
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Well, la-di-dah, look at you Dr. June Secondary, looking so in demand over there with all your June secondaries 😉

No but seriously, I know it's silly but I can't help but feel like getting a later secondary means I was put lower in some initial ranking or I was an overall less desirable applicant. I know logically Kaiser got a billion applications this cycle and it's probably just taking them a ton of time to process. It's like reading too much into the amount of time it takes for a new romantic interest to text you back.
 
Are they screening at all?

I got a secondary 30 hours after I submitted, but my friend hasn’t and applied a few weeks ago (verified before me too).

Only thing I can think of is that my mcat score is in and my friend is waiting.
 
StayWandering said:
Well, la-di-dah, look at you Dr. June Secondary, looking so in demand over there with all your June secondaries 😉

No but seriously, I know it's silly but I can't help but feel like getting a later secondary means I was put lower in some initial ranking or I was an overall less desirable applicant. I know logically Kaiser got a billion applications this cycle and it's probably just taking them a ton of time to process. It's like reading too much into the amount of time it takes for a new romantic interest to text you back.
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I think it’s probably just a random automated process!
 
Is it best to submit the secondary ASAP even if letters aren't in... or is it okay to wait for my letters to be submitted giving me more time for the secondary (hoping for next 2 weeks for the letters).
 
gp2 said:
Is it best to submit the secondary ASAP even if letters aren't in... or is it okay to wait for my letters to be submitted giving me more time for the secondary (hoping for next 2 weeks for the letters).
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All medical applications should be submitted ASAP. You should always take care of what is in your hand and not worry about other pieces that you can't control. OTOH, if you need 2 weeks to submit it, because you are working other apps....
 
gp2 said:
Is it best to submit the secondary ASAP even if letters aren't in... or is it okay to wait for my letters to be submitted giving me more time for the secondary (hoping for next 2 weeks for the letters).
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If you are writing quality responses, sure, a little extra time won't hurt. DO cycle is a lot more forgiving for submitting later. If you are iffy about your letter writers following through, then no, I'd submit soon (assuming you have enough letters in).
 
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Is anyone else experiencing this issue.... I submitted my secondary last week and when I click on status it shows the fee, secondary, letters, technical standards, and MCAT score are all complete but the last box shows my application is still incomplete. I also took casper early June and my casper portal shows my results were delivered to the school as well.
 
doc_24 said:
Is anyone else experiencing this issue.... I submitted my secondary last week and when I click on status it shows the fee, secondary, letters, technical standards, and MCAT score are all complete but the last box shows my application is still incomplete. I also took casper early June and my casper portal shows my results were delivered to the school as well.
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Not having your issue but I took CASPer last week and the results have not been transmitted yet, but I am marked complete.

Application CategoryApplication StatusNotes
Application SubmittedApplication submitted on 6/30/2019
Fee PaidReceived on 6/30/2019
Technical StandardsComplete
Letter of ReferencesComplete
MCAT ScoreReceived
Application CompleteYour application is now complete and awaiting review
 
Nugester said:
Not having your issue but I took CASPer last week and the results have not been transmitted yet, but I am marked complete.

Application CategoryApplication StatusNotes
Application SubmittedApplication submitted on 6/30/2019
Fee PaidReceived on 6/30/2019
Technical StandardsComplete
Letter of ReferencesComplete
MCAT ScoreReceived
Application CompleteYour application is now complete and awaiting review
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Thanks! I'll have to contact their admissions mine looks exactly the same but for some reason my application complete notes state the application is incomplete.
 
Do we need to mention any anecdotes/examples in our essays? I'm having a tough time fitting in anecdotes for the diversity essay. Want to discuss my ethnic upbringing, clinical and work experience but can't add in any examples w/o going over 250 words...
 
aayz345 said:
Do we need to mention any anecdotes/examples in our essays? I'm having a tough time fitting in anecdotes for the diversity essay. Want to discuss my ethnic upbringing, clinical and work experience but can't add in any examples w/o going over 250 words...
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I did, but I always kind of answer my essays as a narrative. But it's hard to do a lot of concise wording and summarizing/editing.
Just do what feels write to answer the prompt.
 
For those who didn't get a secondary, I emailed them through their inquiry page on their website because I hadn't gotten the confirmation email that others received or the secondary. They didn't reply to the email but I got a secondary invitation the next day
 
Is the CASPR valid for multiple schools? About how long does it take, and how much does it cost?
 
Dr. Faust said:
Is the CASPR valid for multiple schools? About how long does it take, and how much does it cost?
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It costs $10 to take the test, $10 per school to deliver scores.

You should do the full length practice/system requirements check which takes about 1.5 hours, and the real thing takes about 1.5 hours. It’s dumb, just be the respectful adult that you are, demonstrate that you can appreciate multiple perspectives, and you’ll be golden.
 
Dr. Faust said:
Is the CASPR valid for multiple schools? About how long does it take, and how much does it cost?
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It is valid for any school that requires it! You only need to take it once. The list of schools, and details of the actual test (cost, length, etc.) can all be found on their website takecasper . Com
 
IL1B said:
They are coming to my university as well. What did you learn from it that you didnt already know from their website?
My advisor wants me to attend.
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I learned alot haha. The no lectures thing kinda threw me off, but here are the main points I gathered:

- Contrary to popular opinion, this is not a pipeline into the Kaiser health system. Graduates of this program are free to practice wherever they want.
- There are no lectures and no formal lecture hall. If you see the construction update on their website, it is literally just one building with a few floors. The school is located right next to a Kaiser research building. I brought up concerns about having administrative support, for example if we have issues with classes, and they assured us that all administrative support will be in the research building next door.
- No lectures means that the entire curriculum is case-based. There were concerns from others about STEP prep, and the presenter just answered that they will prepare us accordingly. This was what I was iffy about, since I know med schools have gradually shifted focus from lecture only to lecture + case-based learning, but these are schools that have been established for a while, so I didn't know how this would work for a brand new school with literally no lectures.
- 8 individuals per "classroom", and you will likely stay with these 8 individuals throughout your entire medical career. So I guess if you don't like anyone, you're screwed. Each "classroom" will have a clinician and PhD present to facilitate discussion.
- Research project is required. No research facilities in the main medical school building but they have MOU's with Caltech and nearby schools such as Caltech and USC. I believe also with UCLA and LMU for certain degree programs. With the horrendous traffic in LA, this would be an inconvenience if you had to travel everyday after class to go to lab.
- No pre screen for secondary.
- There are grants for living expenses (huge surprise, cause living in LA is very expensive!) as well as free tuition for the first 5 classes for all 4 years (huge plus)
- Small class ~50. From what I got they are looking for well-rounded applicants with lots of life experience.
- Start at 8 am daily, classroom ends at noon. Lots of free time in the afternoons.

Ask lots of questions! If anyone has anything else to add, please do!
 
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IL1B said:
Outstanding response. Thank you for your generous time.
I thought they prescreened for secondaries

Secondary Application
Once we've received the Primary Application, we'll invite all eligible applicants to complete the School's Secondary Application as well as the online Situational Judgement Test.

Is there an opportunity to suck up and brown-nose meet and greet any decision makers during their presentation?
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No I remember someone asking explicitly if there was a pre-screen and the presenter said "no screen for GPA or MCAT".
The info session I went to had alot of people and lots of people asked questions, and there was only 1 hour alotted for the presentation. But I did see some people stay behind to say hi to the presenter.
 
alwayseating said:
I learned alot haha. The no lectures thing kinda threw me off, but here are the main points I gathered:

- Contrary to popular opinion, this is not a pipeline into the Kaiser health system. Graduates of this program are free to practice wherever they want.
- There are no lectures and no formal lecture hall. If you see the construction update on their website, it is literally just one building with a few floors. The school is located right next to a Kaiser research building. I brought up concerns about having administrative support, for example if we have issues with classes, and they assured us that all administrative support will be in the research building next door.
- No lectures means that the entire curriculum is case-based. There were concerns from others about STEP prep, and the presenter just answered that they will prepare us accordingly. This was what I was iffy about, since I know med schools have gradually shifted focus from lecture only to lecture + case-based learning, but these are schools that have been established for a while, so I didn't know how this would work for a brand new school with literally no lectures.
- 8 individuals per "classroom", and you will likely stay with these 8 individuals throughout your entire medical career. So I guess if you don't like anyone, you're screwed. Each "classroom" will have a clinician and PhD present to facilitate discussion.
- Research project is required. No research facilities in the main medical school building but they have MOU's with Caltech and nearby schools such as Caltech and USC. I believe also with UCLA and LMU for certain degree programs. With the horrendous traffic in LA, this would be an inconvenience if you had to travel everyday after class to go to lab.
- No pre screen for secondary.
- There are grants for living expenses (huge surprise, cause living in LA is very expensive!) as well as free tuition for the first 5 classes for all 4 years (huge plus)
- Small class ~50. From what I got they are looking for well-rounded applicants with lots of life experience.
- Start at 8 am daily, classroom ends at noon. Lots of free time in the afternoons.

Ask lots of questions! If anyone has anything else to add, please do!
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Thank you for this amazing and informative post.
 
alwayseating said:
I learned alot haha. The no lectures thing kinda threw me off, but here are the main points I gathered:

- Contrary to popular opinion, this is not a pipeline into the Kaiser health system. Graduates of this program are free to practice wherever they want.
- There are no lectures and no formal lecture hall. If you see the construction update on their website, it is literally just one building with a few floors. The school is located right next to a Kaiser research building. I brought up concerns about having administrative support, for example if we have issues with classes, and they assured us that all administrative support will be in the research building next door.
- No lectures means that the entire curriculum is case-based. There were concerns from others about STEP prep, and the presenter just answered that they will prepare us accordingly. This was what I was iffy about, since I know med schools have gradually shifted focus from lecture only to lecture + case-based learning, but these are schools that have been established for a while, so I didn't know how this would work for a brand new school with literally no lectures.
- 8 individuals per "classroom", and you will likely stay with these 8 individuals throughout your entire medical career. So I guess if you don't like anyone, you're screwed. Each "classroom" will have a clinician and PhD present to facilitate discussion.
- Research project is required. No research facilities in the main medical school building but they have MOU's with Caltech and nearby schools such as Caltech and USC. I believe also with UCLA and LMU for certain degree programs. With the horrendous traffic in LA, this would be an inconvenience if you had to travel everyday after class to go to lab.
- No pre screen for secondary.
- There are grants for living expenses (huge surprise, cause living in LA is very expensive!) as well as free tuition for the first 5 classes for all 4 years (huge plus)
- Small class ~50. From what I got they are looking for well-rounded applicants with lots of life experience.
- Start at 8 am daily, classroom ends at noon. Lots of free time in the afternoons.

Ask lots of questions! If anyone has anything else to add, please do!
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Great post.
Some additional things off the top of my head when they went to my school were:
No cadavers: they are using fake bodies for everything
Every week there is a "service learning" aspect, where you leave campus to explore
They plan to increase there class size to 96 if they can
They (to my surprise) do not have preference for in-state
 
I'm dying over here, haven't received any correspondance from this school. No primary confirmation receipt, no secondary yet.
 
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