2019-2020 Mt. Sinai (Icahn)

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Just called student financial services and you can just email your documents directly to the financial aid email since the empower log in is giving a lot of people problems.
 
After dodging yet another Sinai R wave
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Unfortunately this is the reality of medical school and I can assume other professions such as finance and law are the same. I came from public university and went to public school my whole life. The culture shock of the elite and rich at Sinai took me some time to even comprehend. Some of my classmates have parents who are billionaires. Some of my classmates are directly related to pioneers in the medical field. I think almost 30% or more of my class have parents who are doctors. Coming to medical school I realized how naive and sheltered I was to the 1% and now the 1% seemed to be the majority in my class. From a social and economic standpoint, I couldn't help but feel extremely left out but I wanted to be a doctor and I got accepted to a really good school so I always felt grateful for the opportunity. I know down the road, I will be a part of the same economic class that many of my classmates enjoyed in their upbringing. But, hopefully, my kids will benefit from it and I hope I can raise them to be humble and not feel elitist because they are rich or go to top schools.

I do think the resilience and resourceful factors come into play when we see students from state and public schools do just as well as students from the elite school. I do think we could accept more students from non elite schools as I feel they would contribute equally amazing things to our community. But, these types of decisions are well above my pay grade.

In medicine, this is the norm. You'll see it again in residency interviews. The real talk is certain establishments are built to further empower those already in those establishments and give few chances to those outside of it. I do believe Sinai tries its best to give opportunities to those who would not receive it from other elite schools. I think I am definitely an example of that. I believe if you were to compare us to Columbia, Cornell, and NYU, I'd bet we are the most down to earth.

Ultimately, to each their own. You'll discover certain elite schools have malignant clinical departments where they demand perfection from their residents and if that's the type of environment you enjoy and like to be pushed to your absolute best potential then by all means. I think for someone like me, my biggest accomplishment was getting into medical school and now on my way to graduate. I'm going to be a doctor and as a 1st gen immigrant that's my "I made it" or "American Dream" story. I'll let my kids go crazy wanting to be the absolute best and win all the accolades. I'm just happy to be part of the club. Eventually everyone except surgeons (lol jk) becomes humbled at some point when they realize there are talented individuals across all fields.

Happy to discuss more about the structures of medicine and elitism as it's something that I've definitely had to deal with as a minority. The advice I like to give is basically the one I've applied myself in undergraduate. Just put your head down and do the work you need to and the rest will take care of itself.

I'm also a Sinai student, and elitism and favoritism towards the children of the wealthy and privileged is RAMPANT. It really shocked me because I came to the school knowing it had such a reputation for caring for underserved populations, and this is still true. But I would definitely be prepared - whichever med school you go to - that many/most of the students will not be contributing a single cent and have had a LOT of privileges along the way.
 
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I'm also a Sinai student, and elitism and favoritism towards the children of the wealthy and privileged is RAMPANT. It really shocked me because I came to the school knowing it had such a reputation for caring for underserved populations, and this is still true. But I would definitely be prepared - whichever med school you go to - that many/most of the students will not be contributing a single cent and have had a LOT of privileges along the way.

Honestly this pisses me off so much. It is an affront to the profession. Someone should honestly blow this wide open like the college admissions scandal
 
Where did you hear that from? I was just guessing based on the Icahn 2017-2018 thread but if you heard something else let me know, I'm dying of anticipation but don't want to get my hopes up.
I mean all wl movement starts late April so if deferred ppl don’t hear by then they haven’t actually been deferred but put on the wl
 
Honestly this pisses me off so much. It is an affront to the profession. Someone should honestly blow this wide open like the college admissions scandal
would you mind giving some examples of how this favoritism happens and where you see it specifically?
 
I mean all wl movement starts late April so if deferred ppl don’t hear by then they haven’t actually been deferred but put on the wl
That's a good point. I was assuming since on the email it says they send regular acceptances through May which kind of covers all their bases.
 
I'm also a Sinai student, and elitism and favoritism towards the children of the wealthy and privileged is RAMPANT. It really shocked me because I came to the school knowing it had such a reputation for caring for underserved populations, and this is still true. But I would definitely be prepared - whichever med school you go to - that many/most of the students will not be contributing a single cent and have had a LOT of privileges along the way.


I'm just a little curious what you mean by this. Are there specific things happening at Sinai that favor the rich and privileged, or are you noticing things that could be general to medical schools anywhere?
 
Have there been any more of the Sinai insights newletters since decisions were released
 
Still alive after yesterday’s R wave, but not expecting anything if they have their last interviews next week.
 
I'm just a little curious what you mean by this. Are there specific things happening at Sinai that favor the rich and privileged, or are you noticing things that could be general to medical schools anywhere?
A lot of students here with family that work at Sinai/are on board of trustees/are children of millionaires and billionaires. I think I remember being asked if I had a connection to the school on literally every secondary I sent in, which is why I'm pretty positive it happens everywhere else... but it was a much larger proportion than I expected. Also, the overrepresentation of elite schools indirectly favors students from more privileged backgrounds.
 
Anyone else feel like today is the day???
I think they usually send things on Fridays. It sounds like last week Friday was their last interview and they go over the interviews the week after they conduct them. I feel like it might be this Friday if at all this week.
 
If your interviewer didn’t give her email address but it’s online, have you sent your TY notes there or just through the office?
At my interview last week they said to send them to the admissions office and they'll forward them to your interviewer.
 
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