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14_karat said:
Whew, finally submitted just in time for the 2 week recommendation.
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Congrats! I'm waiting for my MCAT score tomorrow just so I can write it in, haha.
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Just a question about LORs, it says my app is under review but they still haven’t received my letters. I submitted 11 days ago, from what I’ve read on the portal it takes ~2 weeks to get uploaded to the portal. I want to make sure I don’t have to do anything and that it’s all on their end?
 
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ob_dc22 said:
Just a question about LORs, it says my app is under review but they still haven’t received my letters. I submitted 11 days ago, from what I’ve read on the portal it takes ~2 weeks to get uploaded to the portal. I want to make sure I don’t have to do anything and that it’s all on their end?
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finally!
 
ricetomed said:
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As mentioned in my post, I already read the thread and understand the admissions said it takes two weeks. I was asking if others said their application is under review and if there's anything that needs to be done on my end.
 
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In regards to the new curriculum, I’ll do my best to summarize it quickly. Basically, instead of doing the classic 2 year pre clinical / 2 year clinical setup, Miller has opted for a little over 1 year pre clinical and then starting rotations early in your MS2 year. The pre-clinical courses are set up Monday / Tuesday / Thursday / Friday mornings and are a combination of lectures and small group learning / discussion. Wednesday’s are off for “self-directed learning” where you can study, chill, or do whatever you want. The courses are 8 AM - 12 PM and focus on “symptom-based learning” as opposed to “system-based learning”. First, we learn about what the normal human body looks and acts like, and then we learn about a symptom and all the possible things it could mean. This style of learning comes from the way medicine actually works i.e. your patient won’t tell you “my lymphatic system is bothering me”, they’ll tell you about the symptoms they’re experiencing. The whole curriculum is kind of centered around that idea. In terms of assessments, every Monday we have a low-stakes, short quiz (in-house questions) that recaps the information from the week before in addition to anything we have learned in the past. Separately, we’ll have occasional exams (this part they haven’t really told us in detail yet) set up around inter-sessions that will give us more practice with NBME style questions. All of this follows the P/F grading scheme. Once we’re done with these courses, we’ll hop into our clerkships in second year (a year earlier than normal) and we’ll rotate based on the groups you see in that link that was shared above. In the winter of your third year, you’ll have dedicated time to study for and take Step (which for both of us will be pass fail). After that, you’ll soon enter Phase 3 where you have time to do away rotations, elective clerkships, research, etc. On top of this curriculum, every student is required to select either a dual-degree pathway (MD/MPH, MD/PhD must apply beforehand, MD/MBA, MD/JD, etc. apply after getting accepted) or a scholarly concentration (they give you a list and you pick one area of interest and you’ll then take some courses and do research in that specific field). The dual degrees and scholarly concentrations are intended to take up your afternoons, alongside your “Medicine as a Profession” courses, where you learn how to take a history, physical exam, learn about population health, etc. (This is once a week). All in all, the new curriculum is centered around the idea of learning clinically, which is especially beneficial with Step 1 being Pass/Fail and a greater emphasis on Step 2 scores. Hopefully this was clear, I tried to be as concise as possible while giving you guys some helpful insight. If you have any questions just reply and I’ll be happy to answer them whenever I have the time. Good luck to all of ya!
 
coconutmango said:
In regards to the new curriculum, I’ll do my best to summarize it quickly. Basically, instead of doing the classic 2 year pre clinical / 2 year clinical setup, Miller has opted for a little over 1 year pre clinical and then starting rotations early in your MS2 year. The pre-clinical courses are set up Monday / Tuesday / Thursday / Friday mornings and are a combination of lectures and small group learning / discussion. Wednesday’s are off for “self-directed learning” where you can study, chill, or do whatever you want. The courses are 8 AM - 12 PM and focus on “symptom-based learning” as opposed to “system-based learning”. First, we learn about what the normal human body looks and acts like, and then we learn about a symptom and all the possible things it could mean. This style of learning comes from the way medicine actually works i.e. your patient won’t tell you “my lymphatic system is bothering me”, they’ll tell you about the symptoms they’re experiencing. The whole curriculum is kind of centered around that idea. In terms of assessments, every Monday we have a low-stakes, short quiz (in-house questions) that recaps the information from the week before in addition to anything we have learned in the past. Separately, we’ll have occasional exams (this part they haven’t really told us in detail yet) set up around inter-sessions that will give us more practice with NBME style questions. All of this follows the P/F grading scheme. Once we’re done with these courses, we’ll hop into our clerkships in second year (a year earlier than normal) and we’ll rotate based on the groups you see in that link that was shared above. In the winter of your third year, you’ll have dedicated time to study for and take Step (which for both of us will be pass fail). After that, you’ll soon enter Phase 3 where you have time to do away rotations, elective clerkships, research, etc. On top of this curriculum, every student is required to select either a dual-degree pathway (MD/MPH, MD/PhD must apply beforehand, MD/MBA, MD/JD, etc. apply after getting accepted) or a scholarly concentration (they give you a list and you pick one area of interest and you’ll then take some courses and do research in that specific field). The dual degrees and scholarly concentrations are intended to take up your afternoons, alongside your “Medicine as a Profession” courses, where you learn how to take a history, physical exam, learn about population health, etc. (This is once a week). All in all, the new curriculum is centered around the idea of learning clinically, which is especially beneficial with Step 1 being Pass/Fail and a greater emphasis on Step 2 scores. Hopefully this was clear, I tried to be as concise as possible while giving you guys some helpful insight. If you have any questions just reply and I’ll be happy to answer them whenever I have the time. Good luck to all of ya!
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This is very helpful. I was a bit confused about the lack of info on the website.

Could you speak more on the scholarly concentrations? What are the different concentrations?
 
My application was approved a week or two ago but I have been debating a dual degree with an MPH. Would submitting the additional questions delay my application review? And is it possible to get accepted into the MD but not the MD/MPH if I were to apply?
 
coconutmango said:
In regards to the new curriculum, I’ll do my best to summarize it quickly. Basically, instead of doing the classic 2 year pre clinical / 2 year clinical setup, Miller has opted for a little over 1 year pre clinical and then starting rotations early in your MS2 year. The pre-clinical courses are set up Monday / Tuesday / Thursday / Friday mornings and are a combination of lectures and small group learning / discussion. Wednesday’s are off for “self-directed learning” where you can study, chill, or do whatever you want. The courses are 8 AM - 12 PM and focus on “symptom-based learning” as opposed to “system-based learning”. First, we learn about what the normal human body looks and acts like, and then we learn about a symptom and all the possible things it could mean. This style of learning comes from the way medicine actually works i.e. your patient won’t tell you “my lymphatic system is bothering me”, they’ll tell you about the symptoms they’re experiencing. The whole curriculum is kind of centered around that idea. In terms of assessments, every Monday we have a low-stakes, short quiz (in-house questions) that recaps the information from the week before in addition to anything we have learned in the past. Separately, we’ll have occasional exams (this part they haven’t really told us in detail yet) set up around inter-sessions that will give us more practice with NBME style questions. All of this follows the P/F grading scheme. Once we’re done with these courses, we’ll hop into our clerkships in second year (a year earlier than normal) and we’ll rotate based on the groups you see in that link that was shared above. In the winter of your third year, you’ll have dedicated time to study for and take Step (which for both of us will be pass fail). After that, you’ll soon enter Phase 3 where you have time to do away rotations, elective clerkships, research, etc. On top of this curriculum, every student is required to select either a dual-degree pathway (MD/MPH, MD/PhD must apply beforehand, MD/MBA, MD/JD, etc. apply after getting accepted) or a scholarly concentration (they give you a list and you pick one area of interest and you’ll then take some courses and do research in that specific field). The dual degrees and scholarly concentrations are intended to take up your afternoons, alongside your “Medicine as a Profession” courses, where you learn how to take a history, physical exam, learn about population health, etc. (This is once a week). All in all, the new curriculum is centered around the idea of learning clinically, which is especially beneficial with Step 1 being Pass/Fail and a greater emphasis on Step 2 scores. Hopefully this was clear, I tried to be as concise as possible while giving you guys some helpful insight. If you have any questions just reply and I’ll be happy to answer them whenever I have the time. Good luck to all of ya!
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This program sounds great.
 
jwar79 said:
My application was approved a week or two ago but I have been debating a dual degree with an MPH. Would submitting the additional questions delay my application review? And is it possible to get accepted into the MD but not the MD/MPH if I were to apply?
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I applied for both the MD only and the MD/MPH programs. From what I’ve gathered, decisions for both are completely separate and done by separate committees
 
Does anyone know for a fact that UM doesn't look at primaries (ive heard it thrown around a couple times here and there), just wondering because one of my MMEs on the primary was for a student org and if UM doesn't look at primaries, then I can reformat that MME for the secondary question which is along the same lines.
 
@softballa12 thanks so much for lmk about that video, I found it and it actually is incredibly helpful and has more specific info about the curriculum. here's the link (its 46 mins but it has those little labeled markers so u can skip exactly to the part u need)

Admissions

Official website for the University of Miami Leonard M. Miller School of Medicine
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mkko09 said:
Does anyone know for a fact that UM doesn't look at primaries (ive heard it thrown around a couple times here and there), just wondering because one of my MMEs on the primary was for a student org and if UM doesn't look at primaries, then I can reformat that MME for the secondary question which is along the same lines.
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I'm wondering this exact thing and would like to know. Not sure how to reword my MME for the most meaningful student organization question, or if it's okay to just direct them back to the primary.
 
figtart said:
Does anyone know what their definition of highest composite score is for the MCAT? Highest composite score in one sitting or across multiple sittings (superscore)? I tried searching for this but getting conflicting info.
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If it’s like ACT composite it means one sitting.
 
14_karat said:
This is very helpful. I was a bit confused about the lack of info on the website.

Could you speak more on the scholarly concentrations? What are the different concentrations?
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sorry for the crappy quality lol but this is a screenshot I found from earlier in the summer when they gave us a tentative list. Basically you pick one (if you’re not dual degree) and then it’ll take up some of your afternoon time and kind of doubles as a research concentration. Also, I forgot to mention they have an option to graduate in 3 years that you can apply to if you A) know which residency you want to do and B) are willing to commit to doing your residency at Jackson. They said it’ll be a competitive program and they’ll be taking top students for it.
 
Pokemon95 said:
I applied for both the MD only and the MD/MPH programs. From what I’ve gathered, decisions for both are completely separate and done by separate committees
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this is accurate ^. It’s pretty common to be accepted by one and not the other.
 
Anyone else still patiently awaiting a 2°? Submitted 6/4, verified 6/26. I called last week just to confirm they don't screen and they said something like "we are still uploading applications to our system." Bummed because I'm interested in MD/JD and this was one of my top picks. URM, GPA = 3.5, MCAT = 516. OOS
 
Does anyone have any insights if it would look bad if I don't answer any of the optional essays?
 
coconutmango said:
In regards to the new curriculum, I’ll do my best to summarize it quickly. Basically, instead of doing the classic 2 year pre clinical / 2 year clinical setup, Miller has opted for a little over 1 year pre clinical and then starting rotations early in your MS2 year. The pre-clinical courses are set up Monday / Tuesday / Thursday / Friday mornings and are a combination of lectures and small group learning / discussion. Wednesday’s are off for “self-directed learning” where you can study, chill, or do whatever you want. The courses are 8 AM - 12 PM and focus on “symptom-based learning” as opposed to “system-based learning”. First, we learn about what the normal human body looks and acts like, and then we learn about a symptom and all the possible things it could mean. This style of learning comes from the way medicine actually works i.e. your patient won’t tell you “my lymphatic system is bothering me”, they’ll tell you about the symptoms they’re experiencing. The whole curriculum is kind of centered around that idea. In terms of assessments, every Monday we have a low-stakes, short quiz (in-house questions) that recaps the information from the week before in addition to anything we have learned in the past. Separately, we’ll have occasional exams (this part they haven’t really told us in detail yet) set up around inter-sessions that will give us more practice with NBME style questions. All of this follows the P/F grading scheme. Once we’re done with these courses, we’ll hop into our clerkships in second year (a year earlier than normal) and we’ll rotate based on the groups you see in that link that was shared above. In the winter of your third year, you’ll have dedicated time to study for and take Step (which for both of us will be pass fail). After that, you’ll soon enter Phase 3 where you have time to do away rotations, elective clerkships, research, etc. On top of this curriculum, every student is required to select either a dual-degree pathway (MD/MPH, MD/PhD must apply beforehand, MD/MBA, MD/JD, etc. apply after getting accepted) or a scholarly concentration (they give you a list and you pick one area of interest and you’ll then take some courses and do research in that specific field). The dual degrees and scholarly concentrations are intended to take up your afternoons, alongside your “Medicine as a Profession” courses, where you learn how to take a history, physical exam, learn about population health, etc. (This is once a week). All in all, the new curriculum is centered around the idea of learning clinically, which is especially beneficial with Step 1 being Pass/Fail and a greater emphasis on Step 2 scores. Hopefully this was clear, I tried to be as concise as possible while giving you guys some helpful insight. If you have any questions just reply and I’ll be happy to answer them whenever I have the time. Good luck to all of ya!
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@coconutmango The NextGenMD curriculum sounds amazing. Especially with Step 1 being P/F, I think learning around the chief concern will be the future of MedEd to help students prepare for step 2 CK sooner. However, in this post, you said dedicated is during the winter of the third year? Do you mean this as during MS3 instead of the traditional MS2 dedicated period prior to Step 1?
 
soccerplayerjc5 said:
Anyone else still patiently awaiting a 2°? Submitted 6/4, verified 6/26. I called last week just to confirm they don't screen and they said something like "we are still uploading applications to our system." Bummed because I'm interested in MD/JD and this was one of my top picks. URM, GPA = 3.5, MCAT = 516. OOS
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I thought they do screen, hence emails about “we received your primary and a decision to send you a secondary will be made shortly.”
 
dindjarin87 said:
@coconutmango The NextGenMD curriculum sounds amazing. Especially with Step 1 being P/F, I think learning around the chief concern will be the future of MedEd to help students prepare for step 2 CK sooner. However, in this post, you said dedicated is during the winter of the third year? Do you mean this as during MS3 instead of the traditional MS2 dedicated period prior to Step 1?
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Dedicated for USMLE is at the end of “Phase 2” which is October-December of your third year. At this point you’ve finished rotating in traditional clerkships and move onto Phase 3 with elective rotations.
 
coconutmango said:
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Dedicated for USMLE is at the end of “Phase 2” which is October-December of your third year. At this point you’ve finished rotating in traditional clerkships and move onto Phase 3 with elective rotations.
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Interesting timeline. Especially with P/F Step 1, there is less pressure for the 260+ score and determining which specialty you target clerkships around after testing. Thank you for the explanation!!
 
Looks like I was scored. Portal text changed to: “Your Application has been reviewed by the Admissions Committee at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. Applicants will be invited to interview based upon their evaluation score from the Admissions Committee review. You will be contacted by email if you are selected for an interview. Interview invitations are extended between August and March. “

Was marked complete and under review on 8/11.
 
Are u supposed to receive an email from them after u submit? I tried to log in after I submitted but it took me to my unsubmitted secondary (after I had already submitted and paid) so Im confused
 
ibl210 said:
Are u supposed to receive an email from them after u submit? I tried to log in after I submitted but it took me to my unsubmitted secondary (after I had already submitted and paid) so Im confused
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Yes, you should have received a confirmation email.
 
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