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hi guys,

i am a new member who recently discovered this forum and i must say i am happy i found it. im 26 and my personal life has been rocky at best for the past 5 or so years. however ive had a love and passion for animals since i can remember..

i am returning to school this fall at a local community college and hope to complete an A.S. in mathematics/natural science before transfering to a 4 year institution to pursue a BA in biology. and then Id like to go on to vet school.

i know the road will be long and arduous however im optomistic and i honestly cannot see myself in any other profession..I'd like to dedicate all my time and energy in pursuit of my goals from here on in.

I am going to begin volunteering at the local SPCA 1 day a week and once I do this for a few months and after i complete a semester or two of school I plan to shadow at a vet hospital in my area.

any input from you guys would be appreciated as far as what I can do to improve my chances of eventually being accepted by a vet school either in the US or abroad. Ive heard good things about Murdoch and I would make the leap to move out to australia if i were to be accepted.

thanks 🙂 👍


Try your best / Do well in ALL of your classes to maintain a high GPA - especially for the science classes.

Get AS MANY HOURS of veterinary experiences as you can. Also make sure that they are diversified hours, ie. work with a small animal vet, large animal, exotics, etc.

Get animal hours too, ie. volunteer at a shelter, farm, etc.

Most of these things will be volunteer hours so keep that in mind. I remember I applied for jobs/shadowing at 20+ places and only one took me for non-paid "experience" but totally worth it.

Also get involved in the community as well. Research the schools that you might be interested in attending one day to make sure that you get the pre-reqs done.

http://www.aavmc.org/College-Specif...ific-Requirements_College-Specifications.aspx
 
Hi! So I posted on here awhile ago but I wanted to get an opinion about my GRE scores. I just took the GRE in the end of June and got a 158 on both verbal and quant (77% and 74% respectively) but then I got my analytical writing...a 3.5. Horrible! Should I consider retaking the GRE in August or do you think my scores are passable? Here's a summary of my other stats below (note: I just switched to prevet in October so all my hours are from the last few months...and I'm discussing this in my personal statement, also my IS is illinois)

Degree: Molecular Biology and Psychology
Cum GPA: 3.49
Cum sGPA: 3.2ish

Vet Exp:
- ~75 hours shadowing small animal vets
- 8 hours shadowing vet boarded in internal medicine
- I am trying to find an equine vet to shadow for a few days in August

Animal Exp:
- 160 working in humane society medical lab (wellness exams, fecal/urine/ear cytologies, microchipping etc.
- 70 hours volunteering as animal care/socializer at humane society
- 150 working on dairy farm- this includes milking and some medical tasks (temps, administering vacs/medications)
- I've also applied for an internship at a wildlife rehabilitation center. This would add 80 hours of wildlife experience.

Other Extra Curr:
- Pre vet club
- 100 hours Volunteering at Hospital (human hospital that is)
- social sorority- Gamma Chi (a leader of girls going thru recruitment)
- Two Habitat for Humanity builds
- Hope for Vision (club)
- Psychology research assistant for 1 semester (recruited participants, helped run subjects in eye tracking software)

Work Experience:
- In high school I worked as a caterer, at a golf club, and at American Eagle
- In college I worked at American Eagle and the Golf Club on school breaks, during school I worked at the main library for two years
 
Hi! So I posted on here awhile ago but I wanted to get an opinion about my GRE scores. I just took the GRE in the end of June and got a 158 on both verbal and quant (77% and 74% respectively) but then I got my analytical writing...a 3.5. Horrible! Should I consider retaking the GRE in August or do you think my scores are passable? Here's a summary of my other stats below (note: I just switched to prevet in October so all my hours are from the last few months...and I'm discussing this in my personal statement, also my IS is illinois)

Degree: Molecular Biology and Psychology
Cum GPA: 3.49
Cum sGPA: 3.2ish

Vet Exp:
- ~75 hours shadowing small animal vets
- 8 hours shadowing vet boarded in internal medicine
- I am trying to find an equine vet to shadow for a few days in August

Animal Exp:
- 160 working in humane society medical lab (wellness exams, fecal/urine/ear cytologies, microchipping etc.
- 70 hours volunteering as animal care/socializer at humane society
- 150 working on dairy farm- this includes milking and some medical tasks (temps, administering vacs/medications)
- I've also applied for an internship at a wildlife rehabilitation center. This would add 80 hours of wildlife experience.

Other Extra Curr:
- Pre vet club
- 100 hours Volunteering at Hospital (human hospital that is)
- social sorority- Gamma Chi (a leader of girls going thru recruitment)
- Two Habitat for Humanity builds
- Hope for Vision (club)
- Psychology research assistant for 1 semester (recruited participants, helped run subjects in eye tracking software)

Work Experience:
- In high school I worked as a caterer, at a golf club, and at American Eagle
- In college I worked at American Eagle and the Golf Club on school breaks, during school I worked at the main library for two years

I would try and retake it and improve your scores. Especially with a below average GPA. Your GRE scores aren't bad, but you want them to really rock to have a better shot. It's not impossible for you to get in, but a higher GRE will definitely help (I would push for 80th percentiles). The writing doesn't matter... don't even worry about it (unless your applying in Canada I think?) What did you do to prepare for the GRE? There are a few things that you can use to prepare that may improve your score. Like I said, they are good, but if it were me personally to feel more confident, I would take it again.
Also, what schools are you applying to, because that matters a little too.
Keep in mind some schools require your GRE scores by a certain time, so it may be too late to retake it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's on an individual school basis.
 
Animal Exp:
- 160 working in humane society medical lab (wellness exams, fecal/urine/ear cytologies, microchipping etc.

Was this really not veterinary experience?

With the <100 hours veterinary experience, you're definitely going to have to prove that you know what you're getting into through your PS/interviews/letters of rec., especially since you don't have the superb GPA/GRE that might wow a school past fewer hours.
Basically, show schools that even though you have few hours, they were quality hours that really showed you what you're getting into.
Also, definitely wait as long as you're comfortable without cutting it too close and risking any computer/internet problems making you unable to submit your application so that you can get every last hour of experience listed.
 
I've posted my stats on here before, but I've got a specific question on my GRE. For the new GRE, my scores are 163 V (93%) and 157 Q (71%). With a cGPA of 3.6, and sGPA of 3.5, do I need to consider retaking the GRE to be more academically competitive? I'm applying to Florida (IS).

I've got 1000+ hours of vet experience, and a few thousand animal experience and leadership hours.
 
GPA:
science: 3.49
overall: 3.51
last 45: 3.45

GRE:
V 162
Q 165
A 5.5

EXP:
100 animal evolutionary research lab working with stick insects
70 animal throughbred farm, took care of horses/farm animals
80 animal California raptor center
179 animal cat colony, took care of cats for nutritional research
100 vet various internships at UCD VMTH (equine medicine, cardiology, campus veterinary service)
300 vet Tulane National Primate research center, summer fellowship, studied viruses using non-human primate cell, PI is a DVM PhD
TBA vet Veterinary Orthopedics Research Lab at UC Davis, research assistant 25 so far, but I'm hoping to work for them from Aug onwards.

SUM: 429 animal, 400 vet, 829 total.

In state: UC Davis, California

Davis just made their academic portion 90% of the total application, so I'm freaking out, and thinking I should definitely apply to more schools.

What other schools should I apply to? I'm thinking schools with high OOS acceptance, and more emphasis on GRE/exp as opposed to GPA. Any advice? Thanks.
 
I've posted my stats on here before, but I've got a specific question on my GRE. For the new GRE, my scores are 163 V (93%) and 157 Q (71%). With a cGPA of 3.6, and sGPA of 3.5, do I need to consider retaking the GRE to be more academically competitive? I'm applying to Florida (IS).

I've got 1000+ hours of vet experience, and a few thousand animal experience and leadership hours.

Way to kick arse on the verbal!
I think my percentages (which are pretty much the main things that will matter at least these first few years of the new GRE) were V(68%) and Q (77%) and got in with pretty much the same GPAs. :shrug:
So I'd say you're lookin pretty good. But you can't base everything on numbers and this process is unpredictable. If it were me, I don't think I would retake it, but it's you, not me 😀
 
Hi all - just coming to try to get an idea if going to vet school would even be feasible for me, as I'm just starting to do my research.

I'm an older student (just turned 28.) A year ago, I left my career to go back to school to become a doctor, and did a one-year post-bacc. I got a GPA of 3.66 in the post-bacc, but my undergrad GPA was low, a 3.3.

Anyway, after completing the post-bacc and shadowing in hospitals I've realized that while I truly love medicine, I don't love treating people. I've had a lifelong love of animals (I'm guessing this is sort of an eye-roll statement for people who want to go to vet school) and have started thinking that veterinary medicine might be right for me.

I am currently a volunteer at an animal shelter and am looking around for opportunities to shadow or work at a veterinary clinic.

So - question 1 is, with a good GRE score would I have any chance at all of getting in to vet school? I'm a Pennsylvania resident, so my instate school would be Penn, which I am guessing is one of the most competitive?

Question 2 is, would I have any chance of applying for 2013? Or will I need to get a year's worth of veterinary experience under my belt?

Thanks for any advice you can offer!
 
Hi all - just coming to try to get an idea if going to vet school would even be feasible for me, as I'm just starting to do my research.

I'm an older student (just turned 28.) A year ago, I left my career to go back to school to become a doctor, and did a one-year post-bacc. I got a GPA of 3.66 in the post-bacc, but my undergrad GPA was low, a 3.3.

Anyway, after completing the post-bacc and shadowing in hospitals I've realized that while I truly love medicine, I don't love treating people. I've had a lifelong love of animals (I'm guessing this is sort of an eye-roll statement for people who want to go to vet school) and have started thinking that veterinary medicine might be right for me.

I am currently a volunteer at an animal shelter and am looking around for opportunities to shadow or work at a veterinary clinic.

Even reception work at a vet clinic would help you get your foot in the door. 🙂

So - question 1 is, with a good GRE score would I have any chance at all of getting in to vet school? I'm a Pennsylvania resident, so my instate school would be Penn, which I am guessing is one of the most competitive?

Of course there's a chance. You'd have to rock the GRE and have wonderful veterinary and animal experiences, but there is definitely a chance with a ~3.45.

While Penn might be your only IS school, it is definitely competitive and definitely expensive. Look into other schools to apply to as well, but generally your best chance at admissions (unless you have amazing GPA+GRE+experience) is your IS school.

Question 2 is, would I have any chance of applying for 2013? Or will I need to get a year's worth of veterinary experience under my belt?

I'm not sure how much you've looked into how the application works.

Have you looked into what courses are required to apply? Different schools have different prereqs, of course; here's a link to those (http://www.aavmc.org/College-Specif...ific-Requirements_College-Specifications.aspx). Also, your courses need to be less than 5-6 years for math and science classes, and I think generally less than 10 for others (english, etc.). So make sure all your classes qualify, since you're an older applicant. I'm not sure a one-year post-bacc would cover all of your bases as general chemistry (one year) is a prereq for organic chemistry (one year) which is a prereq for biochem. So just make sure you meet all requirements before paying the money to apply.

Most schools require some amount of animal and veterinary experience. Again, I don't know how much you've looked into this, but animal experience is usually volunteering at shelters, kennel cleaning at a vet's office, caring for horses, vaccinting cows on your family's farm, etc. Veterinary experience is done under direct supervision of a DVM/VMD. This includes work as a veterinary assistant, vet tech, or shadowing a vet. Research with animals is a sketchy area, which can be included in either section, depending on several factors. Also note that these are in 'hours of experience' not just 'I worked for a vet for a year.'

As far as applying right now goes, if you feel like you want to, you can only regret NOT applying.

I know a few people who were accepted with little to no actual veterinary experience; but the kicker was that they had nearly 4.0 GPAs, and almost perfect GRE scores. On the flip side, however, there are those who are rejected every year with 3.8-4.0s, and great GRE scores, too. :shrug:

Speaking of GRE, you'd have to take it very soon to guarantee that it would make it to the school(s) you apply to before their respective deadlines. UPenn's is December 1, so you have a little wiggle room there, but other schools (TAMU, last year, for example) require it even before the October VMCAS deadline.

It's all up to you. Sure you have a chance, it's not the best chance in the world without much veterinary/animal experience, but still, it's possible.

Without knowing how much you've researched into this, I'm giving a broadly general response. Any other specific questions you'd like to have answered?
 
Hi all - just coming to try to get an idea if going to vet school would even be feasible for me, as I'm just starting to do my research.

I'm an older student (just turned 28.) A year ago, I left my career to go back to school to become a doctor, and did a one-year post-bacc. I got a GPA of 3.66 in the post-bacc, but my undergrad GPA was low, a 3.3.

Anyway, after completing the post-bacc and shadowing in hospitals I've realized that while I truly love medicine, I don't love treating people. I've had a lifelong love of animals (I'm guessing this is sort of an eye-roll statement for people who want to go to vet school) and have started thinking that veterinary medicine might be right for me.

I am currently a volunteer at an animal shelter and am looking around for opportunities to shadow or work at a veterinary clinic.

So - question 1 is, with a good GRE score would I have any chance at all of getting in to vet school? I'm a Pennsylvania resident, so my instate school would be Penn, which I am guessing is one of the most competitive?

Question 2 is, would I have any chance of applying for 2013? Or will I need to get a year's worth of veterinary experience under my belt?

Thanks for any advice you can offer!

What abbercadaver said. And also, if I have the schools straight in my head, Penn doesn't have THAT many pre- reqs (only one semester of orgo?), so you may be set for classes with your post-bacc. If I were you, I'd continue to take classes this year, with an emphasis on getting As. Penn recommends 500 hours of experience by the time you apply, so that's definitely something to keep in mind, too.

If you haven't spent time at a clinic, I would absolutely recommend doing so before you make a decision about applying. I know it was different than I expected it to be, and I'd hate for you to apply and then realize vet med isn't for you, either.

One final thing: I'm 28, too, so I might be biased, but I don't think you're old. 🙂 good luck! and feel free to pm if you have questions or want reassurance.
 
Hi all - just coming to try to get an idea if going to vet school would even be feasible for me, as I'm just starting to do my research.

I'm an older student (just turned 28.) A year ago, I left my career to go back to school to become a doctor, and did a one-year post-bacc. I got a GPA of 3.66 in the post-bacc, but my undergrad GPA was low, a 3.3.

Anyway, after completing the post-bacc and shadowing in hospitals I've realized that while I truly love medicine, I don't love treating people. I've had a lifelong love of animals (I'm guessing this is sort of an eye-roll statement for people who want to go to vet school) and have started thinking that veterinary medicine might be right for me.

I am currently a volunteer at an animal shelter and am looking around for opportunities to shadow or work at a veterinary clinic.

So - question 1 is, with a good GRE score would I have any chance at all of getting in to vet school? I'm a Pennsylvania resident, so my instate school would be Penn, which I am guessing is one of the most competitive?

Question 2 is, would I have any chance of applying for 2013? Or will I need to get a year's worth of veterinary experience under my belt?

Thanks for any advice you can offer!


You're GPA isn't horrible (mine is a 3.5) so averaging your two GPAs together, you fall around that range. For Penn, you would definitely need to do well on the GRE. They told me my scores could have been a bit higher during my first cycle, which might have gotten me accepted that round. For reference, I was in the 75% percentile for verbal, 63% for quantitative and 84% for writing. So, I was just average in regards to GPA and GRE scores. I've had similar comments from other schools I've applied to as well.

But the main reason I didn't get accepted that year (was wait listed at #2 on the IS list) was veterinary experience. I had maybe like 80 hours. And I honestly think I got lucky and presented myself in a way that really showed that I understood the profession. I also think I had LORs that helped convey that as well. So if you have zero veterinary hours, I wouldn't apply this cycle. It is possible to get in with less than 100 but it is more challenging and you have to really stand out in other areas of your application. I also think my first cycle (fall 2010) didn't have as competitive of an applicant pool, but that's all speculation based on my experiences this year. If you think you can get together a good number of hours in the next 2.5 months, it doesn't hurt to apply to just your IS or a few other select schools...that is if you have the money to spend. The application process is pretty expensive in the long run.

If you don't think you're financially able to, or don't think you'll be able to get a decent number of veterinary experience hours in that amount of time, I would probably hold off and take the year to study for the GRE really well and work on those hours. And I'll be honest, I don't think Penn favors IS students all that much compared to many other state schools. Being a private school, they don't get as much funding and have to pull in money from other places, like OOS tuition. I feel like 35-40% of a class at Penn are PA residents. While that is still a decent portion of the class, it's a good bit less than the percent of IS students other schools accept. For example, Ohio State I think is close to 60% IS and schools like Oklahoma State and Wisconsin are even higher...granted they have smaller class sizes.
 
Hi all - just coming to try to get an idea if going to vet school would even be feasible for me, as I'm just starting to do my research.

I'm an older student (just turned 28.) A year ago, I left my career to go back to school to become a doctor, and did a one-year post-bacc. I got a GPA of 3.66 in the post-bacc, but my undergrad GPA was low, a 3.3.

Anyway, after completing the post-bacc and shadowing in hospitals I've realized that while I truly love medicine, I don't love treating people. I've had a lifelong love of animals (I'm guessing this is sort of an eye-roll statement for people who want to go to vet school) and have started thinking that veterinary medicine might be right for me.

I am currently a volunteer at an animal shelter and am looking around for opportunities to shadow or work at a veterinary clinic.

So - question 1 is, with a good GRE score would I have any chance at all of getting in to vet school? I'm a Pennsylvania resident, so my instate school would be Penn, which I am guessing is one of the most competitive?

Question 2 is, would I have any chance of applying for 2013? Or will I need to get a year's worth of veterinary experience under my belt?

Thanks for any advice you can offer!

I was Penn OOS. Undergrad GPA was 3.33 but my post-bac was like 3.9 and I aced the GREs (like 95%+ percentile in all three). Only ~ 500 vet hours spread over 3 years. It really is all about making yourself stand out though.

If your grades are mediocre, your experience below average, and your gre's average, what do you have going for you? If you can answer that, you are ok.
 
Name: John
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Major: Biology
Minor: Chemistry
G.P.A. Cumulative: 3.89
G.P.A. Required Courses: 3.75
G.P.A. Last 45 Credit Hours: 3.65
GRE: (Have Not Received Official Scores Yet; Have Unofficial Scores from Exam Day; Percentiles Are Estimated Using Most Up to Date Percentile Chart On ETS Website)
Verbal: 154 (Est. 61%)
Quantitative: 152 (Est. 52%)
Analytical: In Progress
Hours Under D.V.M. and Ph.D.: (Hours Under Ph.D. is Veterinary Research Related; Completing Honors Thesis Project)
Vet 1: 850 Hours Feline Exclusive (Paid Compensated Time: Veterinary Assistant)
Vet 2: 500 Hours Small Animal Practice(Paid Compensated Time: Veterinary Technician)
Ph.D.: 2,000 Hours (Hands On Equine Virology Research)
Total Hours: 3,350
Distinctions:
· Dean’s List:
.o .Fall 2009
.o .Spring 2010
.o .Fall 2010
.o .Spring 2011
.o .Fall 2011
.o .Spring 2012
· Chancellor’s List:
.o .Spring 2010
.o .Spring 2011
· Biology Departmental Honors
· University Honors + Veterinary Related Research Thesis
· Magna Cum Laude (If I pull all As this Fall I’ll be Summa Cum Laude)
· Undergraduate Research Scholar Distinction
· Presented Cancer Research Poster at NCASM Meeting in 2010 at Brody School of Medicine
.o .Awarded Seahawk Gold Award for Travel Expenses
· Presented Current Thesis Poster at U.N.C.W. Showcase for Undergraduate Research 2012
· Recipient of 2009 George H. Chadwick Memorial Scholarship
· Recipient of 2012 Intracoastal Realty Merit Scholarship
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Fundraising and Publicity Chairman 2010
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Fundraising and Publicity Chairman 2011
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Vice President 2012
There is a lot of things I have left out that include my experiences with my research, activities involved with the P.V.M.A., and veterinary job experiences but for brevity’s sake I’ll leave it out.



What do you think my honest chances are at getting in this application cycle?
 
Name: John
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Major: Biology
Minor: Chemistry
G.P.A. Cumulative: 3.89
G.P.A. Required Courses: 3.75
G.P.A. Last 45 Credit Hours: 3.65
GRE: (Have Not Received Official Scores Yet; Have Unofficial Scores from Exam Day; Percentiles Are Estimated Using Most Up to Date Percentile Chart On ETS Website)
Verbal: 154 (Est. 61%)
Quantitative: 152 (Est. 52%)
Analytical: In Progress
Hours Under D.V.M. and Ph.D.: (Hours Under Ph.D. is Veterinary Research Related; Completing Honors Thesis Project)
Vet 1: 850 Hours Feline Exclusive (Paid Compensated Time: Veterinary Assistant)
Vet 2: 500 Hours Small Animal Practice(Paid Compensated Time: Veterinary Technician)
Ph.D.: 2,000 Hours (Hands On Equine Virology Research)
Total Hours: 3,350
Distinctions:
· Dean's List:
.o .Fall 2009
.o .Spring 2010
.o .Fall 2010
.o .Spring 2011
.o .Fall 2011
.o .Spring 2012
· Chancellor's List:
.o .Spring 2010
.o .Spring 2011
· Biology Departmental Honors
· University Honors + Veterinary Related Research Thesis
· Magna Cum Laude (If I pull all As this Fall I'll be Summa Cum Laude)
· Undergraduate Research Scholar Distinction
· Presented Cancer Research Poster at NCASM Meeting in 2010 at Brody School of Medicine
.o .Awarded Seahawk Gold Award for Travel Expenses
· Presented Current Thesis Poster at U.N.C.W. Showcase for Undergraduate Research 2012
· Recipient of 2009 George H. Chadwick Memorial Scholarship
· Recipient of 2012 Intracoastal Realty Merit Scholarship
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Fundraising and Publicity Chairman 2010
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Fundraising and Publicity Chairman 2011
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Vice President 2012
There is a lot of things I have left out that include my experiences with my research, activities involved with the P.V.M.A., and veterinary job experiences but for brevity's sake I'll leave it out.



What do you think my honest chances are at getting in this application cycle?


Please include this info when you guys ask "What are my chances?"

Where are you a resident of and where are you applying?

Certain schools take more/less OOS students and certain schools care more/less about experience/numbers (varying by school).

Obviously you know your GPA is good.

Your GRE is mediocre (though that's not bad at all).

Your Experience seems to be pretty good. Definitely don't leave anything out for brevity's sake. It all matters.

You have a very good chance getting in wherever is your IS school. A decent chance at OOS schools, I'd say.
 
I was Penn OOS. Undergrad GPA was 3.33 but my post-bac was like 3.9 and I aced the GREs (like 95%+ percentile in all three). Only ~ 500 vet hours spread over 3 years. It really is all about making yourself stand out though.

If your grades are mediocre, your experience below average, and your gre's average, what do you have going for you? If you can answer that, you are ok.

Why do you rock so hard, SOV? Geez. Way to make us look bad. 😉 MrsSOV is a lucky skunk! (Though...she's doing Princeton....so she's no schmuck either 😉)
 
John, I'd say you definitely have a chance of getting in. Your GPA is very solid and you have quite a bit of good vet experience. The weakest part of your application is your GRE, which you still have time to retake. IMO, if you study your backside off for the GRE you're definitely competitive. You want to aim for 75-80% if you can in each section. What animal experiences do you have, outside of vet med? Hobbies outside research/vet med? With a good GPA and 3,000+ vet hours, they'll be looking at the nitty gritty stuff.
 
Please include this info when you guys ask "What are my chances?"

Where are you a resident of and where are you applying?

Certain schools take more/less OOS students and certain schools care more/less about experience/numbers (varying by school).

Obviously you know your GPA is good.

Your GRE is mediocre (though that's not bad at all).

Your Experience seems to be pretty good. Definitely don't leave anything out for brevity's sake. It all matters.

You have a very good chance getting in wherever is your IS school. A decent chance at OOS schools, I'd say.

I am a resident of North Carolina and my number 1 pick is definitely North Carolina State. I will also be applying to Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, and Colorado State. Still debating on whether to apply to Ross University.
 
I am a resident of North Carolina and my number 1 pick is definitely North Carolina State. I will also be applying to Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, and Colorado State. Still debating on whether to apply to Ross University.


Just as a heads up, Georgia takes like 1 OOS applicant a year. I definitely think you have a better shot than most based on your GPA and experiences though. I'd try to retake your GRE again and try to improve your score. Otherwise, I agree with Bracco. Make sure you have animal experience as well and interests outside of vet medicine that you can draw upon to help set yourself apart from others. Tons of people have awesome GPAs and experiences and there are some that don't get in, so don't leave anything out that distinguishes you from others.
 
John, I'd say you definitely have a chance of getting in. Your GPA is very solid and you have quite a bit of good vet experience. The weakest part of your application is your GRE, which you still have time to retake. IMO, if you study your backside off for the GRE you're definitely competitive. You want to aim for 75-80% if you can in each section. What animal experiences do you have, outside of vet med? Hobbies outside research/vet med? With a good GPA and 3,000+ vet hours, they'll be looking at the nitty gritty stuff.

For hobbies I love running, reading, playing video games (should I list that? I am a member of an organized online gaming community), volunteering, and I am a competitive shooter (I am very good and competitive marksman however I am fearful of listing this as a hobby because it might prevent me from getting in somewhere because its a controversial sport).

As for animal experience:

  • Worked at an all feline exclusive hospital for 2 years as a veterinary assistant gaining 850 hours of experience. I was exposed to many advanced and current surgeries and therapies in feline treatment including radioactive iodine 131 treatment of hyperthyroidism.
  • Currently work as a "Technician" at a mixed small animal practice and have 500 hours working with a variety of animals. I perform everything a LVT does with the exception of LVT restricted activities. I have performed many dentals, run CBCs and chemistry, blood draws, intubating animals of all sizes, giving fluids, drawing up / recording anesthesia, the list goes on.
  • I have 2,000 + hours of research under a Ph.D. in a virology laboratory at my university working on my honors thesis. I work with EHV-1 and currently assessing novel marine chemical compounds as potential anti-virals. I have been exposed to a plethora of lab and microscopy techniques such as confocal microscopes to aseptic techniques ect. I even worked with brain cancer stem cells explanted from a surgical patient. I live and breath veterinary virology and I enjoy it. I have also worked on oncolytic virotherapy treatment of brain cancer in humns using equine herpes viruses as the vector.
  • I have been a member of the Pre-Veterinary Medical Association for 4 years and three of those years I held an officer's position including Vice President. I helped out with numerous spay and neuter (directed and led my club as well) clinics, rabies vaccination clinics, hosting veterinary key notes speakers, the list goes on. I have even under the strict supervision and guidance of a veterinarian performed minor surgeries such as neutering feral cats.
 
I'd definitely list that you're a competitive shooter, and you can list being a member of the gaming community. If you have a regular running routine, you could list that as well. They want to see that you've got outlets for stress, and that your life doesn't revolved around JUST your education.

I would be careful listing that you performed surgery. Hands on assist, maybe. But saying you did it yourself opens up the whole ethics can of worms.

You've got a good app, and if you've got a good personality to make it through an interview then you're probably gonna be OK.
 
Just as a heads up, Georgia takes like 1 OOS applicant a year. I definitely think you have a better shot than most based on your GPA and experiences though. I'd try to retake your GRE again and try to improve your score. Otherwise, I agree with Bracco. Make sure you have animal experience as well and interests outside of vet medicine that you can draw upon to help set yourself apart from others. Tons of people have awesome GPAs and experiences and there are some that don't get in, so don't leave anything out that distinguishes you from others.

One thing that might distinguish me form others outside of veterinary / school related stuff is that when I was in high school I was a varsity wrestler for 4 years and ran cross country for 2 years. My experience in these sports has really shaped my outlook on how I approach my school and professional career. For example while wrestling was a team sport that required good team work to achieve a team win the individual aspect was always there. When I stepped out on the mat the only person I could rely on was myself and my training. I had no other teammates to fall back on. If I skipped pushups in practice I would pay for it later on the mat. The same goes with cross country. If I cut distance in practice I'd be hurting myself in the long run, literally, because during a race I am the only person responsible for running the race. I enjoy competitive individual sports that have a team aspect such as wrestling and cross country. I can relate my experiences to how I work, study, and hopefully conduct my veterinary career. A veterinarian has no one to fall back on when performing surgery. He only has himself, and his own preparation. If a surgeon doesn't adequately prepare himself during surgery by skipping a certain day in class there is no one else to blame but the surgeon.
 
For hobbies I love running, reading, playing video games (should I list that? I am a member of an organized online gaming community), volunteering, and I am a competitive shooter (I am very good and competitive marksman however I am fearful of listing this as a hobby because it might prevent me from getting in somewhere because its a controversial sport).

As for animal experience:
Currently work as a "Technician" at a mixed small animal practice and have 500 hours working with a variety of animals. I perform everything a LVT does with the exception of LVT restricted activities. I have performed many dentals, run CBCs and chemistry, blood draws, intubating animals of all sizes, giving fluids, drawing up / recording anesthesia, the l

As far as competitive marksmanship goes, I'd say list it. You will be one of the few who can boast that particular skill set.

I listed being a member of the Gay-Straight Alliance on my application (for LOUISIANA, no less), and still got in. I think they like non-cookie-cutter types. 🙂

With your animal experience...do remember that it is divided up into animal and veterinary experiences. If you did what you did under supervision/direction of a vet, it's vet experience. If it was "riding and caring for horses," that'd be animal experience.

Research is a little fuzzy...different circumstances make it fall under either category. Definitely let someone who HAD research answer this part....I had zero. 😳

One final note...be careful listing yourself as a technician of any sort if you are not licensed/registered/certified. I've had mixed reactions to that. Some people don't care how you list your title as long as you are essentially acting as a "vet tech," while others recoil from using the term if you are not officially licensed/registered/certified.

For NCSU, I'd say you have a very good chance. Probably LSU, too. If you like the more Southern states, Oklahoma would not be a bad one to add to your list. 🙂 I got on the waitlist there with a 3.45 and about the same GRE scores as you...but a couple more hours of vet experience. 🙂
 
I'd definitely list that you're a competitive shooter, and you can list being a member of the gaming community. If you have a regular running routine, you could list that as well. They want to see that you've got outlets for stress, and that your life doesn't revolved around JUST your education.

I would be careful listing that you performed surgery. Hands on assist, maybe. But saying you did it yourself opens up the whole ethics can of worms.

You've got a good app, and if you've got a good personality to make it through an interview then you're probably gonna be OK.

Also 👍 to both of these. 😀

Surgeries are a sticky situation. I would not mention them.
 
One thing that might distinguish me form others outside of veterinary / school related stuff is that when I was in high school I was a varsity wrestler for 4 years and ran cross country for 2 years. My experience in these sports has really shaped my outlook on how I approach my school and professional career. For example while wrestling was a team sport that required good team work to achieve a team win the individual aspect was always there. When I stepped out on the mat the only person I could rely on was myself and my training. I had no other teammates to fall back on. If I skipped pushups in practice I would pay for it later on the mat. The same goes with cross country. If I cut distance in practice I'd be hurting myself in the long run, literally, because during a race I am the only person responsible for running the race. I enjoy competitive individual sports that have a team aspect such as wrestling and cross country. I can relate my experiences to how I work, study, and hopefully conduct my veterinary career. A veterinarian has no one to fall back on when performing surgery. He only has himself, and his own preparation. If a surgeon doesn't adequately prepare himself during surgery by skipping a certain day in class there is no one else to blame but the surgeon.

Definitely do this. I did field hockey and swimming and used experiences from both in various essays. (although I didn't write the swimming one as well as I should have...). I actually continued both in college at a club level and picked up CrossFit during my year off after college and talked about that during interviews.
 
graduated UCD, majored in biosci with 2.51 GPA( I know it's horrible)
currently, attending grad school, majoring in molecular bio (current GPA about 3.75) @ seoul national university
working at vet hospital for about two years..(adds up to thousands of hours)
have done some internships while I was in undergrad - botanical conservatory, ichthyology lab, dental, molecular bio, and hospital interpreter/

I went to snowboarding school from 8th to 12th while i was in boarding school.. so i have "some"thing to write about on my essay.. that is why I had such a low GPA because while i was there, all I did was snowboarding every day..BARELY wrote one page essay per week. so i had trouble taking classes after attending UCD - it took about three years to LEARN how to study.. lol

Am I a strong applicant to apply for UCD vet with such a low GPA??

I'm thikin about sending my gre scores to cornell, davis, colorado, UofPenn, Wisconsin, Illinois, and purdue..
I studied my ass off to get a high gre score.. so hopefully get what i want tomorrow.
oh, forgot to mention that I look forward to study "small animals"

any suggestions??

thanks!
 
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graduated UCD, majored in biosci with 2.51 GPA( I know it's horrible)
currently, attending grad school, majoring in molecular bio (current GPA about 3.75) @ seoul national university
working at vet hospital for about two years..(adds up to thousands of hours)
have done some internships while I was in undergrad - botanical conservatory, ichthyology lab, dental, molecular bio, and hospital interpreter/

I went to snowboarding school from 8th to 12th while i was in boarding school.. so i have "some"thing to write about on my essay.. that is why I had such a low GPA because while i was there, all I did was snowboarding every day.. so i had trouble taking classes after attending UCD-took about three years to settle down.

Am I a strong applicant to apply for UCD vet with such a low GPA??

I'm thikin about sending my gre scores to cornell, davis, colorado, UofPenn, Wisconsin, Illinois, and purdue..
I studied my ass off to get a high gre score.. so hopefully get what i want tomorrow.
oh, forgot to mention that I look forward to study "small animals"

any suggestions??

thanks!

Are you international? If not, of what state are you a resident?
 
I went to snowboarding school from 8th to 12th while i was in boarding school.. so i have "some"thing to write about on my essay.. that is why I had such a low GPA because while i was there, all I did was snowboarding every day..BARELY wrote one page essay per week. so i had trouble taking classes after attending UCD - it took about three years to LEARN how to study.. lol

Don't write this in your explanation statement. Maybe something along the lines of "I had to learn how to study" but let's leave out the "I was snowboarding the whole time, barely did a thing for school!" bit. 😉

Your undergraduate GPA is going to be your biggest hurdle. There are schools that toss out applications with less than a 2.5 GPA without even looking at them. Luckily your graduate GPA is going to redeem you a bit. If I were you, I'd focus on kicking ass at the GRE and really honing in on why you think you're set for an academically rigorous program - this'll be something adcoms will be interested in hearing.
 
i just tested and the verbal was 83% and math was 93%. should i take it again?
 
Hi guys,

I've been debating about making this post for many months now. I'm applying this cycle, and it's shocking how everything is basically boiling down to a single application to determine my future...SIGH. I should be feeling some kind of closure, but, instead, all I fear is dread and impending doom. The main reason? My science GPA sucks. It really really sucks. So, with that said, please, someone, be brutally honest with me and tell me what my chances REALLY are 🙁 I'm ready to hear the worst...I've accepted the fact that I may need to take a year off. Anyways, here goes:

In-state: UC Davis, who have changed their admissions criteria, and it now works against me 🙁

Cumulative: 3.5
Science: 3.17
Last 45 semester: 3.6-3.7

GRE
#1: 164 V (93%), 160Q (81%), 5.0W (92%)

Vet experience:
~1,000 hours split pretty evenly amongst small-animal, equine, and laboratory
I didn't want to list these individually because I'm lazy, but they are all separate, unique experiences

Animal experience:
I don't have the hours handy, but I've spent about 5 years of my life accruing hours in:
- animal-assisted therapy with my own dog
- equine therapeutic riding
- laboratory research assistant
- animal shelter, fostering, things of this nature, etc.

Leadership:
- board member of a club
- created outreach programs and classes

Honors:
- Leadership scholarship award
- volunteering awards (not big fancy ones; very informal and I'm not sure whether to include them...)

"Fun" stuff that I don't know whether I should include in my app?
- am an avid runner and have run a marathon
- am on an adult soccer league
- am an Education minor and believe strongly in social justice (hence, my outreach programs and I have a lot of tutoring/fieldwork experience in education)

I have 3 veterinarians who've agreed to write LORs for me, as well as my PI (PhD) and one academic professor (PhD).
 
Hi Anotherbusybee

Its pretty normal to feel dread and impending doom instead of closure. Keep your head up. Know that many before you have felt the exact same way and have survived the application process. I know it seems daunting at the beginning, but you too will get through it.

Your cumulative looks about average, but remember it is "average" meaning there will be people with higher GPAs and lower GPAs than you. Your science is a little low, however your last 45 look higher. Were these science courses or education courses? Sometimes students struggle with the beginning science classes, but get the hang of it as their schooling progresses. For instance, I had a 2.something the first semester I took science classes. However, I got the hang of it and ended with a couple 4.0s under my belt (in science). If you show an upward trend the adcoms may be lenient to any troubles you had early on. Just recognize that your science GPA is a weakness in you application and be ready to explain it if you are asked.

Your quantitative GRE scores look competitive. I'd be proud of that score.

It appears you have a good number and diversity of veterinary hours. Are you going to continue gaining experience before interview offers are sent out? If so I would recommend gaining some more hours in your area of interest. This way you will have both variety and depth to your hours.

You have some interesting animal experience hours. I think they will make you stand out as an applicant.

Looks like you have some good extracurricular experiences. In the Davis 2017 thread you talked about being unique in how your outreach programs and vet med intertwine...is that correct? I think this view could make you extremely unique. My opinion is that you explore that idea more critically and talk about it in supplementals and interviews (should you be offered one).

Include even minute awards because they are important and say something about you as a person. If ever in doubt, include it. Imagine that it comes down to you and another applicant; wouldn't you want to give the adcom every reason to accept you? Same goes for extracurriculars: If it shows who you are as a person and is notable then include it, but be ready to explain it if you are ever asked.

My advice to you is be realistic about the strengths and weaknesses in your application and to address them. I think it is worth it for you to apply this application cycle. There is always next year if you don't get in. Is there any way for you to improve your science GPA before interviews (in case you get one)? What about for next cycle in case you aren't accepted this round? I know you are concerned about appearing unique to adcoms, but I think you have some experiences and qualities that will make you stand out if you present them in the right way. Best of luck to you and keep your head up. :luck::xf:
 
Thank you so much, HelloNello! I really appreciate the honest feedback and the support.

My bad grades come from chemistry. There definitely has been an upward trend in my science grades since then, but it hasn't been extremely drastic (my most recent science classes have been around a B+ average). So, I understand my science GPA is rather paltry, and it's something I've tried to remedy. Ever since chemistry, though, I've had a very low morale and this whole undergrad experience has been pretty brutal. My last 45 are about half Education, half required science classes. So, with about a B+ average for those remaining science classes, that's why my last 45 GPA is around a 3.6-3.7. Hopefully, that made sense! As for improving it, I only have two more required science classes to factor in. I'm going to try my darned hardest, but even IF I ace them, I don't expect my science GPA to get much higher than, maybe, a 3.3. And I suppose if I don't get in, I'll look into post-bacc or something :/

As for my experiences, yes, I'll continue at my current positions and will continue to accrue hours. And I will also be continuing with the veterinarian in my area of interest, so I'm not terribly worried about the experiences part of the application. I'm so glad that you think I should pursue presenting my outlook on vet med in a thoughtful way 😳 I have been trying to explore it critically and to present it in a mature, thoughtful way, but it's so much harder than I thought. I'm really struggling to fit it in with my general PS, which is all in shambles since this must be the 7th time I've rewritten it... So, basically, my science GPA makes me vulnerable, and it's not something I can change a whole lot unless I pursue post-bacc or a Masters. So, given Davis's new admissions criteria, do you think I'll still have a reasonable chance or should I seriously consider other vet schools? This question haunts me at night!!!
 
So, basically, my science GPA makes me vulnerable, and it's not something I can change a whole lot unless I pursue post-bacc or a Masters. So, given Davis's new admissions criteria, do you think I'll still have a reasonable chance or should I seriously consider other vet schools? This question haunts me at night!!!

I'm applying for the first time this cycle too. I'm an IL resident and I do know that the way IL chooses applicants is a little different from most schools. What they do is they first look at your GPAs/GRE scores and see if they are high enough to go to phase II. If they are high enough (I think the min is a 2.8 GPA) then they will send you on to phase II which is the non-cognitive review (your experience, essay, personal statement etc).

I'm not sure what "cut off" they use for the GPA but it's worth a shot since they don't really take your GPA into account for the final decision. The final decision is based off of the rest of your application, supplement, and interview. What helps most people out in this part is if they have LOTS of experience hours and a variety of both animal and vet.

I don't know too much about UC Davis, but if you are thinking of out of state schools, IL might be helpful. They accept 30ish OOS i believe.
 
Name: John
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Major: Biology
Minor: Chemistry
G.P.A. Cumulative: 3.89
G.P.A. Required Courses: 3.75
G.P.A. Last 45 Credit Hours: 3.65
GRE: (Have Not Received Official Scores Yet; Have Unofficial Scores from Exam Day; Percentiles Are Estimated Using Most Up to Date Percentile Chart On ETS Website)
Verbal: 154 (Est. 61%)
Quantitative: 152 (Est. 52%)
Analytical: In Progress
Hours Under D.V.M. and Ph.D.: (Hours Under Ph.D. is Veterinary Research Related; Completing Honors Thesis Project)
Vet 1: 850 Hours Feline Exclusive (Paid Compensated Time: Veterinary Assistant)
Vet 2: 500 Hours Small Animal Practice(Paid Compensated Time: Veterinary Technician)
Ph.D.: 2,000 Hours (Hands On Equine Virology Research)
Total Hours: 3,350
Distinctions:
· Dean’s List:
.o .Fall 2009
.o .Spring 2010
.o .Fall 2010
.o .Spring 2011
.o .Fall 2011
.o .Spring 2012
· Chancellor’s List:
.o .Spring 2010
.o .Spring 2011
· Biology Departmental Honors
· University Honors + Veterinary Related Research Thesis
· Magna Cum Laude (If I pull all As this Fall I’ll be Summa Cum Laude)
· Undergraduate Research Scholar Distinction
· Presented Cancer Research Poster at NCASM Meeting in 2010 at Brody School of Medicine
.o .Awarded Seahawk Gold Award for Travel Expenses
· Presented Current Thesis Poster at U.N.C.W. Showcase for Undergraduate Research 2012
· Recipient of 2009 George H. Chadwick Memorial Scholarship
· Recipient of 2012 Intracoastal Realty Merit Scholarship
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Fundraising and Publicity Chairman 2010
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Fundraising and Publicity Chairman 2011
· U.N.C.W. Pre-Veterinary Medical Association Vice President 2012
There is a lot of things I have left out that include my experiences with my research, activities involved with the P.V.M.A., and veterinary job experiences but for brevity’s sake I’ll leave it out.



What do you think my honest chances are at getting in this application cycle?
BigJohn45,

While your GPA is very good one of the things is your last 45 hours is below your other two. Typically schools are looking for a tend that you are improving. If you were working or involved in something else during that time make sure they are documented on your application. I would also suggest you re take the GRE if you have a chance and really try and bring the Q % up.
 
Name: Avi
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Major: Business and Economics
Minor: Sociology
G.P.A. Cumulative: 2.985
G.P.A. Required Courses: 2.544
G.P.A. Last 45 Credit Hours: 2.544
GRE:
Verbal: 530
Quantitative: 770
Analytical: 3.5
Hours Under D.V.M.
Vet Experience: over 1000 Hours Small Animal Practice as an assistant
Distinctions:
· Dean’s List:
.o .Fall 2009
.o .Spring 2010

· Magna Cum Laude and High honors in business and (If I pull all As this Fall I’ll be Summa Cum Laude)

Took a year off just to do vet work after my first round of applications were rejected. I really would like to know my chances here. Veterinary work is my passion and I am dying to become a DVM. I also am retaking the GRE soon to up my verbal and I am no longer in school so my GPA is sadly frozen in its current state.
I have 3 letters of rec and lots of experience.
Can anyone help me?
 
Name: Avi
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Major: Business and Economics
Minor: Sociology
G.P.A. Cumulative: 2.985
G.P.A. Required Courses: 2.544
G.P.A. Last 45 Credit Hours: 2.544
GRE:
Verbal: 530
Quantitative: 770
Analytical: 3.5
Hours Under D.V.M.
Vet Experience: over 1000 Hours Small Animal Practice as an assistant
Distinctions:
&#183; Dean's List:
.o .Fall 2009
.o .Spring 2010

&#183; Magna Cum Laude and High honors in business and (If I pull all As this Fall I'll be Summa Cum Laude)

Took a year off just to do vet work after my first round of applications were rejected. I really would like to know my chances here. Veterinary work is my passion and I am dying to become a DVM. I also am retaking the GRE soon to up my verbal and I am no longer in school so my GPA is sadly frozen in its current state.
I have 3 letters of rec and lots of experience.
Can anyone help me?

Do you have more experience you haven't told us about? 1000 hours is fine, but if it's only SA tech work that could be an issue.

Your GPA is a challenge. Can you find a way to take classes on a post-bacc level?
 
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Hi All,

Has anyone ever heard of someone with a ~2.8 science GPA, ~3.0 cumulative GPA, ~3.2 last 45 hours GPA get into a US vet school/Ross/Canada? My IS school is Cornell.

As far as my vet hours go, I've been a vet assistant/receptionist at a small animal/exotics clinic for almost 3 years, and I'm almost positive I'll have positive LOR from my doctors there (and 1 professor at school I get along very well with who I will soon be researching with on soil bacteria). I also have ~300 hrs cat-sitting/volunteering with the dogs and cats at an animal shelter.

As for large animal experience, I had a hard time finding it because I'm in NYC. I have ~200 hrs food animal/equine animal (not veterinary) experience from a dairy farm and a nature center. (I'm including somewhere on my app that throughout the summer I commuted 6 hours weekly to this nature center so they see my dedication! lol)

As for research, I didn't have the chance to do research on animals, but I spent 6 months on a research team studying a neurological disability in adults (more like psych research).

I'm taking my GRE in a couple of weeks, and based on my practice tests, I'm getting between 75-80% on both verbal and quant.

I realize what definitely brings me down is my GPA. I was diagnosed with 'an invisible' physical disability at the end of high school. Long story short, the meds screwed up my cognition skills, and my lowest grades (the lowest is a C, which I received in 3 chem classes and 1 genetics, not counting the labs for all of those which I got B's in) are from my first 2 years in college. I'll be a senior in September, and fortunately my disability is now officially under control, and as my medicine dosages go down, you can see via transcript that my grades are also going up. This physical disability also took a toll on my mental functions, which also contributed to lower cognition. I'm going to explain this as best as I can in my explanation statement (without trying to make them think I'm trying to make them feel bad for me; I'm honestly not. This disability is the main reason my GPA is low, and having a disability was out of my control. I hope they can take my word for it when I say I truly studied my hardest regardless during those years).

Thanks for reading, and sorry for the long post!
 
Do you have more experience you haven't told us about? 1000 hours is fine, but if it's only SA tech work that could be an issue.

I had less hours than that in just one small animal clinic for my vet hours, and they took me! 😉 But I also had some research hours and some animal experience (not vet) at a zoo, so that helped a bit.

What is your GPA's scale? You mentioned graduating Summa Cum Laude in business; I'm accustomed to a 4.0 scale, where a Summa is 3.8+, and all three of your GPA's are 2.xx. If those actually represent Magna/Summa values, then I'd say you're in pretty good condition. if they're on a 4.0 scale, I'd suggest diversifying your hours and rounding yourself out in that area. Do you know the percentiles for your GRE scores?
 
Hi All,

Has anyone ever heard of someone with a ~2.8 science GPA, ~3.0 cumulative GPA, ~3.2 last 45 hours GPA get into a US vet school/Ross/Canada? My IS school is Cornell.

As far as my vet hours go, I've been a vet assistant/receptionist at a small animal/exotics clinic for almost 3 years, and I'm almost positive I'll have positive LOR from my doctors there (and 1 professor at school I get along very well with who I will soon be researching with on soil bacteria). I also have ~300 hrs cat-sitting/volunteering with the dogs and cats at an animal shelter.

As for large animal experience, I had a hard time finding it because I'm in NYC. I have ~200 hrs food animal/equine animal (not veterinary) experience from a dairy farm and a nature center. (I'm including somewhere on my app that throughout the summer I commuted 6 hours weekly to this nature center so they see my dedication! lol)

As for research, I didn't have the chance to do research on animals, but I spent 6 months on a research team studying a neurological disability in adults (more like psych research).

I'm taking my GRE in a couple of weeks, and based on my practice tests, I'm getting between 75-80% on both verbal and quant.

I realize what definitely brings me down is my GPA. I was diagnosed with 'an invisible' physical disability at the end of high school. Long story short, the meds screwed up my cognition skills, and my lowest grades (the lowest is a C, which I received in 3 chem classes and 1 genetics, not counting the labs for all of those which I got B's in) are from my first 2 years in college. I'll be a senior in September, and fortunately my disability is now officially under control, and as my medicine dosages go down, you can see via transcript that my grades are also going up. This physical disability also took a toll on my mental functions, which also contributed to lower cognition. I'm going to explain this as best as I can in my explanation statement (without trying to make them think I'm trying to make them feel bad for me; I'm honestly not. This disability is the main reason my GPA is low, and having a disability was out of my control. I hope they can take my word for it when I say I truly studied my hardest regardless during those years).

Thanks for reading, and sorry for the long post!

Your experiences seems good, so it's definitely possible. Generally, with people who get into schools with a lower GPA have fantastic GRE and vet/animal experiences. You need to rock that GRE. 70-80% is ok, but work harder to make that thing your doormat! 🙂

Why is your GPA so low? Several low classes, a few A's and B's with several C's thrown in? Why would you say your GPA is low?

Ross, St. Matthew's and St. George's are known for taking lower GPA applicants, so is Western, I believe. Otherwise, it just varies by school you plan on attending. Do you know where you will be trying to get in?

I'd say unless you are a Canadian resident, odds are you won't get in with a low GPA at their schools. And a couple of Canadian schools ONLY take Canadian applicants.
 
Veterinary work is my passion and I am dying to become a DVM. I also am retaking the GRE soon to up my verbal and I am no longer in school so my GPA is sadly frozen in its current state.
I have 3 letters of rec and lots of experience.
Can anyone help me?

Hm. If getting a DVM is your passion....I might suggest going back for more classes to boost your GPA or possibly going to get a graduate degree and applying to a school that considers your graduate GPA and undergrad GPA as different things.

Did you do file reviews after your first application was rejected? Did they specifically say you were lacking in animal experience? Just knee-jerk, but if I were them, I would have said your GPA was a pretty major factor in the first set of rejections.
 
Your experiences seems good, so it's definitely possible. Generally, with people who get into schools with a lower GPA have fantastic GRE and vet/animal experiences. You need to rock that GRE. 70-80% is ok, but work harder to make that thing your doormat! 🙂

Why is your GPA so low? Several low classes, a few A's and B's with several C's thrown in? Why would you say your GPA is low?

Ross, St. Matthew's and St. George's are known for taking lower GPA applicants, so is Western, I believe. Otherwise, it just varies by school you plan on attending. Do you know where you will be trying to get in?

I'd say unless you are a Canadian resident, odds are you won't get in with a low GPA at their schools. And a couple of Canadian schools ONLY take Canadian applicants.


Thanks so much for the advice! I really appreciate it 🙂
As for my GPA, I'm just calculating based on what my transcript at college says. I'm not trying to say this to brag, but maybe why my GPA seems low, even though I have A's and B's, is because I go to an Ivy League so competition is extremely tough, and they unfortunately don't really curve 🙁 Also, when calculating, the chem classes I got C's in were worth 5 credits, 3.5, amd 3.5 (that's just lecture), whereas the majority of my other classes are 3 credits.

As for where I'm looking, Cornell, UPenn (my dream but I know it's probably unrealistic lol), Tufts, Kansas, Western, Ohio, Illinois, VMR, Royal, Edinburgh, Ross, St. George, and I was also going to consider Ontario, but I didn't realize they were very competitive outside Canada.

I'm also hoping they'll like my PS; I'm having a lot of people read it over for critiques, and I put basically my heart into it. I'm just afraid they'll automatically see my flaws in my GPA and throw out my application, without considering experience/PS/etc.
 
Thanks so much for the advice! I really appreciate it 🙂
As for my GPA, I'm just calculating based on what my transcript at college says. I'm not trying to say this to brag, but maybe why my GPA seems low, even though I have A's and B's, is because I go to an Ivy League so competition is extremely tough, and they unfortunately don't really curve 🙁 Also, when calculating, the chem classes I got C's in were worth 5 credits, 3.5, amd 3.5 (that's just lecture), whereas the majority of my other classes are 3 credits.

As for where I'm looking, Cornell, UPenn (my dream but I know it's probably unrealistic lol), Tufts, Kansas, Western, Ohio, Illinois, VMR, Royal, Edinburgh, Ross, St. George, and I was also going to consider Ontario, but I didn't realize they were very competitive outside Canada.

I'm also hoping they'll like my PS; I'm having a lot of people read it over for critiques, and I put basically my heart into it. I'm just afraid they'll automatically see my flaws in my GPA and throw out my application, without considering experience/PS/etc.

I would definitely still apply to Cornell, since it's your IS. 🙂 Just rock the GRE!

Are you applying as a junior or a senior?
 
As for my GPA, I'm just calculating based on what my transcript at college says. I'm not trying to say this to brag, but maybe why my GPA seems low, even though I have A's and B's, is because I go to an Ivy League so competition is extremely tough, and they unfortunately don't really curve 🙁 Also, when calculating, the chem classes I got C's in were worth 5 credits, 3.5, amd 3.5 (that's just lecture), whereas the majority of my other classes are 3 credits.

As for where I'm looking, Cornell, UPenn (my dream but I know it's probably unrealistic

Going to an Ivy League school does not automatically lower your GPA. Getting Cs in courses worth 3.5-5 credits does. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's ludicrous to use going to your specific university as an excuse for your GPA, especially given that you know the meds you're on have affected your performance. The good news is Penn does care about where you went for undergrad, so you might get a little bump there for having gone to your school.
 
Going to an Ivy League school does not automatically lower your GPA. Getting Cs in courses worth 3.5-5 credits does. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's ludicrous to use going to your specific university as an excuse for your GPA, especially given that you know the meds you're on have affected your performance. The good news is Penn does care about where you went for undergrad, so you might get a little bump there for having gone to your school.

Ehh.. No, I don't think that a school is automatically more difficult if it's Ivy League. And you're right, the OP did bring up the medication thing to justify a lower GPA. But as someone who has taken majority of their science classes at a large university and some at a community college, I will say that there is a CLEAR difference in difficulty and in GPA. As a matter of fact, I know multiple people who transferred to my UG from both community colleges and smaller UG who either failed out or switched majors due to the difference in difficulty.

I wish more schools did pay attention to UG institution difficulty. Cause I graduated with a 3.2 (on no medications) and know that I worked significantly harder than many people with higher GPAs who took more classes at a CC or smaller UG schools.
 
Thanks so much for the advice! I really appreciate it 🙂
As for my GPA, I'm just calculating based on what my transcript at college says. I'm not trying to say this to brag, but maybe why my GPA seems low, even though I have A's and B's, is because I go to an Ivy League so competition is extremely tough, and they unfortunately don't really curve 🙁 Also, when calculating, the chem classes I got C's in were worth 5 credits, 3.5, amd 3.5 (that's just lecture), whereas the majority of my other classes are 3 credits.

Wouldn't not curving be to your benefit if there is a lot of competition? 😕
As in, if there's a curve and everyone does well, some have to do worse to keep the curve a curve because you need people at every end of that curve. But with no curve, you get what you get no matter what everyone else gets.
right?

And, honestly curious, having As and Bs shouldn't make your GPA low?
 
Curving helps because science classes (at least at my undergrad institution, which is not an Ivy but is a top 20 college - if you trust national rankings) are often structured so that the averages are low. For example, average raw scores in physics and organic chemistry historically fall within 50-60%. Professors then "curve" these low averages to the appropriate average grade. Depending on department rules, that average letter grade may be a C+ or B- (usually) so as to ensure that approximately 25-30% of students get A's, ~25% B's, etc. etc.

It's not a true curve. And it would be an EXCEEDINGLY rare case where everyone does well on a test and it would have to be "curved down". In fact, I believe curving down is against most departments' policies. If everyone does well, they usually just use the raw score.

In the end, curves don't really matter, IMO. What matters is the performance of the other students because, ultimately, their performance is how yours is measured. So, if everyone else around you is just as competitive, just as driven, just as studious and smart, then it becomes more difficult to get high grades. I think the latter reason is the real reason why it could be more difficult to get high grades in certain undergraduate institutions.

ETA: A's don't make your GPA low. But B's definitely do.
 
I was told that since I am no longer in school I just need to increase my verbal score on the GRE. My work experience and writing samples were perfectly acceptable. Upenn and Tufts both said that only my academics are a problem and that I can only improve them with a GRE boost at this point.
 
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