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What dates they got boss?Got an II today, complete 7/8. Debating on whether or not to go to this one...
What dates they got boss?Got an II today, complete 7/8. Debating on whether or not to go to this one...
What dates they got boss?
Got an II today, complete 7/8. Debating on whether or not to go to this one...
Lol, when you know someone must have multiple top 20 interviews.
If you don't think you'll go to Emory then please don't take the interview so someone who is interested can have it! (Not trying to sound aggressive, just think it makes sense! Congrats on all your IIs!)
Thank you, I appreciate it!
honestly my hesitation in going comes from the place of not having enough $$$ to go to another interview rather than having acceptances at a t20 if that’s helps soothe your anxieties!
Out of curiosity, if you got accepted to Emory, would you go there over each of the 4 schools you have As from?
um...full disclosure, I have an A at a school where I am likely to graduate from debt-free, so likely not. I do not have any t20 acceptances no matter what this thread would like to believe lmao
Y'all like to state the obvious. Of course it is their decision. Are we to reach through the electrons and forcibly withdraw their application?
Full disclosure, I am already accepted to Emory. But I intend to follow AAMC's "play nice and be considerate of your peers" rules ASAP depending on pending decisions in Feb/March.
Play nice rules from AAMC:
- In fairness to other applicants, if you have decided before April 30 not to attend a medical school or program that has offered you an acceptance, promptly withdraw your application from that school(s) or program(s).
- Out of respect for other applicants, if you receive an offer of acceptance from more than one school or program*
Please pay particular attention to the words "respect", "fairness" and "to other applicants." I bring this up because this topic is in the same vein in my not so humble opinion. Crazy idea, but isn't this the field where we do things to help others?
They should make a courtesy rule for interviews as well. I cancelled a couple myself. While I don't agree with the way Miseur Smart went about it, I believe their point is valid. Just my unsolicited 4 cents.
Do you not think you would get enough financial aid from Emory?um...full disclosure, I have an A at a school where I am likely to graduate from debt-free, so likely not. I do not have any t20 acceptances no matter what this thread would like to believe lmao
Do you not think you would get enough financial aid from Emory?
This is a stressful time for all of us, but I want to point out what someone decides to do with an II is completely their choice. It is true that if they decline then a spot opens up for somebody else, but ultimately they were the ones that were deemed a good candidate by the school and they get to make the decision whether to attend the interview or not. But don't forget, interview season does not end for a couple more months so there is still some time though!
P.S., I do not have an II from Emory, but I am glad to support those who do!
I get what you’re saying and agree with you completely. I recognize that I could have worded better and I might have come off pretty poorly by being noncholant about going to an interview, so I do apologize to anyone where that rubbed the wrong way.
I know I’ve been super fortunate to have my IIs and As but they absolutely are not from T20s as the assumption was made above—this II shocked me. Like I mentioned, the main reason I see myself going to one of the other schools is from a financial perspective, and it’s difficult to feel pigeon holed in to making that decision this early on and solely because of $$$. And that school is FAR from a T20. Or T40.
That being said, this is one of my favorite programs and I am absolutely between a rock and a hard place about forfeiting an interview here. I’ve cancelled other interviews and have withdrawn from two schools that gave me an A, so just for the record I am doing my best to Be fair to other applicants in the larger pool! It just so happens that this is e a school I’m pretty hung up on. I’m not mad or offended by anything anyone has said, I think it’s just remiss to think that I have not also thought about these things, because I absolutely have, and I know how stressful this is for everyone. There’s a lot more going on than you can tell from a signature, ya know?
It seems from people's reactions that I came off pretty rude in my responses, so I want to apologize! I and everyone else on this thread of course have no right to shame you into any decision. My responses were more come from the stand point of "oh, it sounds like they aren't really interested anyways and have mostly made up their mind for another school so this sounds like the logical decision to me". I was just trying to voice an opinion and I think too much judgement came through so I'm so sorry!
Y'all like to state the obvious. Of course it is their decision. Are we to reach through the electrons and forcibly withdraw their application?
Full disclosure, I am already accepted to Emory. But I intend to follow AAMC's "play nice and be considerate of your peers" rules ASAP depending on pending decisions in Feb/March.
Play nice rules from AAMC:
- In fairness to other applicants, if you have decided before April 30 not to attend a medical school or program that has offered you an acceptance, promptly withdraw your application from that school(s) or program(s).
- Out of respect for other applicants, if you receive an offer of acceptance from more than one school or program*
Please pay particular attention to the words "respect", "fairness" and "to other applicants." I bring this up because this topic is in the same vein in my not so humble opinion. Crazy idea, but isn't this the field where we do things to help others?
They should make a courtesy rule for interviews as well. I cancelled a couple myself. While I don't agree with the way Miseur Smart went about it, I believe their point is valid. Just my unsolicited 4 cents.
I’ve withdrawn from several schools that I know I would not attend as well as from one interview. But I’m still going to attend my remaining interviews. But, i have no problem with people choosing to attend interviews even if they might not attend that school. To each his own. Everyone has there own reasons for doing things and it is not for me to tell them whether they’re right or wrong.
OK Fair enough.Don't think I mentioned prestige? You've got a few contradictions trying to make a point. T20/prestige doesn't matter vs. having multiple T20 As is good. I agree with most of this vs sorry different opinion? The post's purpose is singular so I'm not sure how you can disagree with the main point which is reinforced by details, but like most of it...?
Also you're missing what my comment was a result of. Homeslice said they're likely sitting on a full ride to a place they're likely to attend. So you can take financial aid out of the picture, which seems to be the essence of your stance.
At the end of the day, mask it any way you'd like. End result is the same. You accept 1 seat to 1 school. If you're like many of us in the "prestige" group (Assuming you're in the position to interview here and turn down IIs), you may be sitting on some unnecessarily large sum of IIs above the median matriculants 3 IIs, per AAMC. What that also likely means is you'll be in that small group of applicants monopolizing financial aid at multiple schools down the line until you feel like relinquishing your hold on your "bargaining chips."
Two different camps of thought. I'm just the type to share the wealth since I grew up as a "have not." I know everyone is out here "tryna get theirs" lol. So feel free disagree, just realize your decisions don't singularly affect you. Even if you choose not to see the consequences, they exist. These are people's dreams and hopes for the future we are talking about here, partner.
Sorry if this got too deep. I just passionately and whole-heartedly disagree.
Don't think I mentioned prestige? You've got a few contradictions trying to make a point. T20/prestige doesn't matter vs. having multiple T20 As is good. I agree with most of this vs sorry different opinion? The post's purpose is singular so I'm not sure how you can disagree with the main point which is reinforced by details, but like most of it...?
Also you're missing what my comment was a result of. Homeslice said they're likely sitting on a full ride to a place they're likely to attend. So you can take financial aid out of the picture, which seems to be the essence of your stance.
At the end of the day, mask it any way you'd like. End result is the same. You accept 1 seat to 1 school. If you're like many of us in the "prestige" group (Assuming you're in the position to interview here and turn down IIs), you may be sitting on some unnecessarily large sum of IIs above the median matriculants 3 IIs, per AAMC. What that also likely means is you'll be in that small group of applicants monopolizing financial aid at multiple schools down the line until you feel like relinquishing your hold on your "bargaining chips."
Two different camps of thought. I'm just the type to share the wealth since I grew up as a "have not." I know everyone is out here "tryna get theirs" lol. So feel free disagree, just realize your decisions don't singularly affect you. Even if you choose not to see the consequences, they exist. These are people's dreams and hopes for the future we are talking about here, partner.
Sorry if this got too deep. I just passionately and whole-heartedly disagree.
Too idealistic. I think you're asking for people to be too considerate of random people that they don't know. That goes against basic human psychology i.e tribalism. If I get in and you don't, what does that matter to me? I would love to go get into a medical school of my choice free of charge. If i need to attend an extra 10-15 interviews to do that, I will. Sorry, not sorry.
100% agree. That is the way to go. withdraw our As once we know what we get from them. I also fully understand none of them may give us much anyway. this is real possibility. But cant give up on As till we dont know what they will give us. keep interviewing and hold As till then.Too idealistic. I think you're asking for people to be too considerate of random people that they don't know. That goes against basic human psychology i.e tribalism. If I get in and you don't, what does that matter to me? I would love to go get into a medical school of my choice free of charge. If i need to attend an extra 10-15 interviews to do that, I will. Sorry, not sorry.
100% agree. That is the way to go. withdraw our As once we know what we get from them. I also fully understand none of them may give us much anyway. this is real possibility. But cant give up on As till we dont know what they will give us. keep interviewing and hold As till then.
Nope. I didnt say attend II in school you will never attend. I said I have applied to 14 schools. I will accept best school at best financial deal for me. financial deal weighting higher then anything else for schools I may potentially get accepted. So in my case, it doesnt apply, that I will go to II to school I will never attend. as I will attend either of my 14 schools whichever offers me best deal. However for people who know fore sure, you will never attend that school, then definitely decline II. Yes, by attending all offered II, I may end up spending a grand or more right now attending any offered interviews. but that will go as investment in essence of making best decision. I will still encourage all people with Emory as dream school that go and attend interview. it will be worth the investment of II money. you never know how chips may fall in the end.so you’re saying,
Spend a grand or more interviewIng at a school in the middle of nowhere that you would never attend?
username checks out...
so you’re saying,
Spend a grand or more interviewIng at a school in the middle of nowhere that you would never attend?
100% agree with this and I think this is a pointless argument. Schools already send out IIs to all students they really enjoy. A single student who chooses to go to interviews despite being accepted to a choice they find better will have 0 effect on the applicant pool.While we all have differing opinions, it seems dumb to argue this point repeatedly (see the last page). People can and will do what they want with the IIs offered to them. That's the reality of it and it's unlikely that we will change someone's mind by arguing with them here. Live and let live - it will all play out how life intends. In the grand scheme of things, holding extra IIs to schools where you don't see yourself is likely not a big deal. Maybe you can leverage financial aid, maybe not. Maybe you find you actually really like the school even though you went in thinking you wouldn't. Regardless of all of that, we never know the outcome of things until we reach the end. To that point, again, let's stop arguing about this.
While we all have differing opinions, it seems dumb to argue this point repeatedly (see the last page). People can and will do what they want with the IIs offered to them. That's the reality of it and it's unlikely that we will change someone's mind by arguing with them here. Live and let live - it will all play out how life intends. In the grand scheme of things, holding extra IIs to schools where you don't see yourself is likely not a big deal. Maybe you can leverage financial aid, maybe not. Maybe you find you actually really like the school even though you went in thinking you wouldn't. Regardless of all of that, we never know the outcome of things until we reach the end. To that point, again, let's stop arguing about this.
Attend as many interviews as you financially can so you can play the scholarship/financial aid game at the end of the cycle.
Each interview you recieved is one you rightfully earned, you haven’t “taken” anything away from someone as that person would have recieved an interview alongside you if they earned the right to interview.
100% agree with this and I think this is a pointless argument. Schools already send out IIs to all students they really enjoy. A single student who chooses to go to interviews despite being accepted to a choice they find better will have 0 effect on the applicant pool.
From what I read the individual is still going to the interview. That's not a waste of an interview spot.I think the point that he was making is if the whole applicant pool as a whole was more considerate of their fellow applicants, there would be more IIs spread around.
Look at me, I have nowhere near raptors like 30 IIs, but I'm arguably in the top 5%. If the 2.5k or w/e applicants didn't go to 10 interviews each... that is an extra 25k IIs for others. Or a more simplified example. Say 100 of us did not want to go to Emory whatsoever (Emory-senpai pls take me 🙁)and withdrew before our interviews. Do you think Emory would make 0 attempt to replace that chunk of people that no longer have to interview? So I am going to have to respectfully disagree.
Also, this whole notion of who did and didn't earn something is a bit funny to me. This process is a lot of luck besides our fellows sitting with 100th percentile MCATs and 4.0s that cured cancer. I've interviewed at a T10, and I definitely am not going to sit here and hufflepuff that I earned it over you. Be humble.
no, this is so dumb. No one should tell you what you should or shouldn't do. That's your call 100%. People are neurotic and anxious and it comes out in ways they likely don't intent but do not apologize because you owe no one an apology. Best of luck to you throughout the rest of this 🙂****, this really blew up.
So just for the record I’m not going to the interview and I am sorry?? for taking 24 hours to think about it??
Seriously though, I know how stressful this process is and I appreciate your understanding of me wanting to use my critical thinking skills before withdrawing from a stellar school that I am obviously interested in (as evidenced by my secondary application fee!) :’)
Godspeed to you all.
Goodluck and so sorry you got all this backlash. It's perfectly sensible to not immediately withdraw from an interview without thinking of all the possible repercussions of it.****, this really blew up.
So just for the record I’m not going to the interview and I am sorry?? for taking 24 hours to think about it??
Seriously though, I know how stressful this process is and I appreciate your understanding of me wanting to use my critical thinking skills before withdrawing from a stellar school that I am obviously interested in (as evidenced by my secondary application fee!) :’)
Godspeed to you all.
Seriously though, I know how stressful this process is and I appreciate your understanding of me wanting to use my critical thinking skills before withdrawing from a stellar school that I am obviously interested in (as evidenced by my secondary application fee!) :’)
I think the point that he was making is if the whole applicant pool as a whole was more considerate of their fellow applicants, there would be more IIs spread around.
Look at me, I have nowhere near raptors like 30 IIs, but I'm arguably in the top 5%. If the 2.5k or w/e applicants didn't go to 10 interviews each... that is an extra 25k IIs for others. Or a more simplified example. Say 100 of us did not want to go to Emory whatsoever (Emory-senpai pls take me 🙁)and withdrew before our interviews. Do you think Emory would make 0 attempt to replace that chunk of people that no longer have to interview? So I am going to have to respectfully disagree.
Also, this whole notion of who did and didn't earn something is a bit funny to me. This process is a lot of luck besides our fellows sitting with 100th percentile MCATs and 4.0s that cured cancer. I've interviewed at a T10, and I definitely am not going to sit here and hufflepuff that I earned it over you or anyone else. Be humble.
“Be humble.”
“I’vE InTERvIEwEd aT A T10“
“iM iN tHe Top 5%”
SDN high horse riding and reaching for the moon to find something to argue about once more.
Please re-read my post before creating faux outrage. Me stating for everyone who has earned an interview (yes EARNEd) to attend those they can is not a “hufflepuff” but rather concrete advice considering both the years of work, application building, and money spent on the cycle.
Luck alone won’t garner you any interviews. It is an equally funny notion to assume each candidate with multiple interviews “lucked out” at recieving each respective interview.
Applicants commonly overestimate the strength of their application due to high metrics and forget about other parts of their resume. If you truly have high metrics and “cured cancer” and are unable to garner a medical school interview you have much bigger problems to worry about
Time for you to get off SDN, kid. Spending too much time here. The mere effort to edit that makes me cringe. Maybe go outside?
seriously, can we lay this to rest?Wow this really blew up. It's just ideological differences. No need for the flaming Icebird/Sleaze. We could all use a break.
You got into UCLA, you want to stay in Cali... honestly, bro, how does this serve you?Username checks out. I rest my case.
You got into UCLA, you want to stay in Cali... honestly, bro, how does this serve you?
Let me rephrase - what good comes of stirring the pot so to speak? Like, does it bring you joy? In other words, how is it helping you apart from unintentionally bringing others down?not trying to be self serving
I just don’t believe in the “every man for himself” mentality.