ravensfan78
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Got the WL email last night at 9:55 PM EST. Interviewed 3/4
The sun is currently shining here in Cincinnati, but there are going to be thunderstorms all afternoon and if that isn't a metaphor for this whole process then idk what is. Come on Kaiser I am ready - just rip the bandaid off!
Do we have to send an email to accept the waitlist offer?
that's what it loooks like you've gotta do. maybe they're hoping lot's of folks never email & that's an easy way for them to narrow the WL
Mine says I’ve already been placed? Might be wrongthat's what it loooks like you've gotta do. maybe they're hoping lot's of folks never email & that's an easy way for them to narrow the WL
that's what it loooks like you've gotta do. maybe they're hoping lot's of folks never email & that's an easy way for them to narrow the WL
Yup, it doesn’t say so in the email but on the website (linked in the WL email) says you have to email to accept the WL position.
WowYup, it doesn’t say so in the email but on the website (linked in the WL email) says you have to email to accept the WL position.
Has anyone emailed accepting the offer? If so, what did you write?
Has anyone emailed accepting the offer? If so, what did you write?
Heard nothing yesterday, and haven't heard anything so far today either. Still waiting on a decision.Any other WL’s or R’s go out since Tuesday? Was that everyone...?
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+1 and slowly descending into madnessHeard nothing yesterday, and haven't heard anything so far today either. Still waiting on a decision.
+1 and slowly descending into madness
I mean, I hate to say it but, I think the WL is pretty large. SDN bias is a thing but so many people got a WL here I'd imagine the actual number is much higherSince the adcom has to reconvene to re-evaluate all waitlisted applicants if/when a spot becomes available, do y’all think it’s safe to assume the WL is relatively small? I’m sure they don’t want to discuss hundreds of applicants each time...
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At my interview early march they said they expect to have a "large" waitlist.I mean, I hate to say it but, I think the WL is pretty large. SDN bias is a thing but so many people got a WL here I'd imagine the actual number is much higher
Sorry to hear that, but also happy you were put out of your misery! Did you just get notified?This was the happiest rejection of my life
Sorry to hear that, but also happy you were put out of your misery! Did you just get notified?
did anyone get a response after emailing to accept the waitlist position?
I emailed them yesterday at 11AM PST and haven’t gotten a response
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sorry for being neurotic, but do you mean withdrawing from the WL or withdrawing your A?Withdrawing, hoping that one of y'all gets it!
Of the accepted students, are there any who have not received a merit scholarship covering cost of attendance in addition to tuition being waived?
Withdrawing my acceptance.sorry for being neurotic, but do you mean withdrawing from the WL or withdrawing your A?
I got one.Of the accepted students, are there any who have not received a merit scholarship covering cost of attendance in addition to tuition being waived?
Withdrawing, hoping that one of y'all gets it!
Can anybody comment on the fact that since they aren't fully accredited accepted students will not be eligible for federal loans? I wasn't aware of this until today. Will the school take this into consideration for living since we would have to take out private loans?
That is correct, you won't be eligible for federal loans, but they do say that sallie mae is willing to work with students if they need a loan. Personally, I won't be taking out any loans because it's definitely manageable to live on 2875/month and our COL (and thus grant) increases by 3% each year so we will get more money each year to live off of.Can anybody comment on the fact that since they aren't fully accredited accepted students will not be eligible for federal loans? I wasn't aware of this until today. Will the school take this into consideration for living since we would have to take out private loans?
I'll be going to UTMB. If I get Baylor then I'll be going there.If you don’t mind sharing, where will be going instead and how’d you make your decision? Just curious
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dang ur BIG madRejected post-II as well. Just want have some closing words to tag with yours because your post echos in my heart so much. First off, I want to thank Kaiser for having the courage to do what they did and for interviewing me and accepting and waitlisting so many wonderful candidates. I have no beef with any particular individual or the institution. I do, however, have concerns with the plan for the school that really bothered me and made me relieved to be rejected. You read that right.
You see, free medical school is bribery. I cannot, in good faith, choose the school that fits me the best when I literally have the option to pay nothing (not even CoL for some lucky folks). When I saw the layout for Kaiser's plan, I knew it would not work for me. 48 students?! What if one of them is insufferable? What if your cohort is a cricket-chirping fest? Does anyone not remember the pitfalls of small group learning? And this whole "clinical experience in the first few weeks" on top of relentless PBL/TBL makes me wonder how anyone learns preclinical basics. It sounded exhausting. But I stayed on because two words: free. school.
Next, there is the **** show of that anatomy teaching expo at the end of the interview. They showed me all this fancy VR/synthetic ****. I want to be a surgeon or at least know how to cut basic stuff. I need to cut. I need to cut a body. I need to suffer in a traditional anatomy lab, prosections at least. Anyone who has read When Breath Becomes Air immediately knows why this is a sacred rite of passage for the aspiring surgeon. If I wanted to be a medicine-based doc (IM, peds, etc.) in California, Kaiser would be perfect. I do not. But I stayed on because two words: free. school.
Lastly, Kaiser did something distinctly southern Californian that really bothered me. They offered a scenario where you work like a dog, live exceedingly healthily (yoga rooftop!), and are somehow not overwhelmed by the (sometimes literal) treadmill they put you on. Between the random clinical experiences and dauntless PBL, I don't know where the "study in my pajamas" part of med school is going to be. Guess what, that is what a lot of preclinicals is! You study in your pajamas, have oodles of time, and waste a small portion of it just being a flawed human being. Kaiser wants to change that but I think they are assuming too much strength out of young aspiring students. But I stayed on because two words: free. school.
Overall, I don't want to trash Kaiser. I want to trash a curriculum that I think will change dramatically. I think their first class will have a lot of roadblocks and pot holes and they are either going to become a mysterious elite med school for god-tier people or they are going to become the same old flipped-classroom BS fest that most of modern medical education is becoming. I think debt is important to consider. I also know that if you aren't going into a severely underpaid specialty and live poorly for a bit post-residency, med school debt is bearable relative to the debt most of America struggles with. If you come from an underprivileged background and think free med school is important enough to justify all these issues (or even better, like these changes Kaiser promotes) then by all means enjoy your KP education. But for me and maybe others, I am glad that they declined to bribe me and other applicants into a flawed and incomplete dream.
Cheers
I respect your opinion on the curriculum (although I disagree on several points), but I don't think your use of the term bribery is not necessarily appropriate here. I suppose it's just arguing semantics but bribery has a heavily negative connotation and isn't the same as offering an incentive. The school is free and it is up for you to make an educated decision whether that is worth the cost-benefit analysis (which you clearly have!). I do not think it constitutes bribery because of the transparency that is being demonstrated. The fact that it is free is not under the table by any means and they are being fairly clear with what you can expect from the school, some of which you used to make your decision. Again, I respect your opinion and decision, just disagree with some semantics usedRejected post-II as well. Just want have some closing words to tag with yours because your post echos in my heart so much. First off, I want to thank Kaiser for having the courage to do what they did and for interviewing me and accepting and waitlisting so many wonderful candidates. I have no beef with any particular individual or the institution. I do, however, have concerns with the plan for the school that really bothered me and made me relieved to be rejected. You read that right.
You see, free medical school is bribery. I cannot, in good faith, choose the school that fits me the best when I literally have the option to pay nothing (not even CoL for some lucky folks). When I saw the layout for Kaiser's plan, I knew it would not work for me. 48 students?! What if one of them is insufferable? What if your cohort is a cricket-chirping fest? Does anyone not remember the pitfalls of small group learning? And this whole "clinical experience in the first few weeks" on top of relentless PBL/TBL makes me wonder how anyone learns preclinical basics. It sounded exhausting. But I stayed on because two words: free. school.
Next, there is the **** show of that anatomy teaching expo at the end of the interview. They showed me all this fancy VR/synthetic ****. I want to be a surgeon or at least know how to cut basic stuff. I need to cut. I need to cut a body. I need to suffer in a traditional anatomy lab, prosections at least. Anyone who has read When Breath Becomes Air immediately knows why this is a sacred rite of passage for the aspiring surgeon. If I wanted to be a medicine-based doc (IM, peds, etc.) in California, Kaiser would be perfect. I do not. But I stayed on because two words: free. school.
Lastly, Kaiser did something distinctly southern Californian that really bothered me. They offered a scenario where you work like a dog, live exceedingly healthily (yoga rooftop!), and are somehow not overwhelmed by the (sometimes literal) treadmill they put you on. Between the random clinical experiences and dauntless PBL, I don't know where the "study in my pajamas" part of med school is going to be. Guess what, that is what a lot of preclinicals is! You study in your pajamas, have oodles of time, and waste a small portion of it just being a flawed human being. Kaiser wants to change that but I think they are assuming too much strength out of young aspiring students. But I stayed on because two words: free. school.
Overall, I don't want to trash Kaiser. I want to trash a curriculum that I think will change dramatically. I think their first class will have a lot of roadblocks and pot holes and they are either going to become a mysterious elite med school for god-tier people or they are going to become the same old flipped-classroom BS fest that most of modern medical education is becoming. I think debt is important to consider. I also know that if you aren't going into a severely underpaid specialty and live poorly for a bit post-residency, med school debt is bearable relative to the debt most of America struggles with. If you come from an underprivileged background and think free med school is important enough to justify all these issues (or even better, like these changes Kaiser promotes) then by all means enjoy your KP education. But for me and maybe others, I am glad that they declined to bribe me and other applicants into a flawed and incomplete dream.
Cheers
dang ur BIG mad