2012-2013 Saint Louis University Application Thread

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II just now; 3.78/3.90/33Q, some family ties to St. Louis.

Submitted secondary on 8/26. Not sure what day I am going to pick yet... anyone know how long you think I could wait to pick a interview date?
 
Interview invite just a little bit ago! First invite of the cycle and my second time around so I am really pumped!!! All my info is on MDapps and I was complete on 8/16 for those too lazy to check.
 
Invite! Non-trad, 4.02 gpa, 33 O mcat, complete sometime around mid-August. Good luck to all of you who will be interviewing!
 
espagueti said:
yeah, definitely more helpful to others if you share amcas gpa, which can't be >4.0, instead of your ug's.
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Haven't you folks read posts here? If you don't have a GPA > 4.0 you'll never get into med school.
 
2dogs said:
invite! Non-trad, 4.02 gpa, 33 o mcat, complete sometime around mid-august. Good luck to all of you who will be interviewing!
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2/10.
 
Anyone know if there's an interview date on the 16th of October? I already scheduled for the 9th, but the 16th would work better if that's an option.
 
espagueti said:
yeah, definitely more helpful to others if you share amcas gpa, which can't be >4.0, instead of your ug's.
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Haha! Sorry, 3.96 gpa on AMCAS. Awesome that they won't take the A+ grades but will gladly take A-. Yeah, that really seems fair.😡
 
2dogs said:
Haha! Sorry, 3.96 gpa on AMCAS. Awesome that they won't take the A+ grades but will gladly take A-. Yeah, that really seems fair.😡
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I've never heard of any college actually having A+.
 
2dogs said:
Haha! Sorry, 3.96 gpa on AMCAS. Awesome that they won't take the A+ grades but will gladly take A-. Yeah, that really seems fair.😡
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Its because many instituions do not award A+'s and most that do still give it a 4.0 and use it just to say hey you did awesome!
 
Does this school do silent rejections? I was complete 8/2 and haven't heard anything yet. I'm assuming I was passed over.
 
nabilesmail said:
Its because many instituions do not award A+'s and most that do still give it a 4.0 and use it just to say hey you did awesome!
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Yeah, not all classes at U of Iowa would give an A+, but those that did would give you a 4.33 for it.
 
jhuskp said:
Does this school do silent rejections? I was complete 8/2 and haven't heard anything yet. I'm assuming I was passed over.
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Yep. I applied last cycle, and didn't hear anything until I was rejected sometime in the summer. But don't give up! People are still getting invites, and interviews only began in september, I believe.
 
Thinking I may have been silently rejected or something. Complete 7/26...
 
IRASNA said:
Thinking I may have been silently rejected or something. Complete 7/26...
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SLU doesn't tell you when you're complete.

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My status page says application complete (I submitted/certified 7/9)
 
IRASNA said:
My status page says application complete (I submitted/certified 7/9)
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Really? Mine says
Thank you for applying to Saint Louis University School of Medicine. Your AMCAS materials have been received.
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Submitted/Certified 7/2.

I assumed that that materials received didn't necessarily mean complete. I know schools have to actually download your LORs after they receive your AMCAS and they may not do so until later in the cycle.
 
MedPR said:
Really? Mine says

Submitted/Certified 7/2.

I assumed that that materials received didn't necessarily mean complete. I know schools have to actually download your LORs after they receive your AMCAS and they may not do so until later in the cycle.
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above the "Status Check" bar up top.... in green says "Application Complete"
 
Ssina said:
above the "Status Check" bar up top.... in green says "Application Complete"
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Yeah that's where it says I'm complete. I'm pretty sure that showed up on 7/26 or whatever (I used to check my status pages 4-5 times a day back then....:laugh:)
 
II here a few days ago! It's really cool they tell you who you are interviewing with. Wondering if anyone can tell me anything about Dr. Fred Rottnek and his interview style? Also if any current students will weigh in on their experiences at SLU? Is the "wellness" campaign actually beneficial? How do people do on step 1? What's the general type/stereotypical student that SLU attracts? Thanks, and good luck everyone!
 
JifyPuf said:
II here a few days ago! It's really cool they tell you who you are interviewing with. Wondering if anyone can tell me anything about Dr. Fred Rottnek and his interview style? Also if any current students will weigh in on their experiences at SLU? Is the "wellness" campaign actually beneficial? How do people do on step 1? What's the general type/stereotypical student that SLU attracts? Thanks, and good luck everyone!
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Apparently SLU kind of alternates what they're looking for in each class. I get the impression that this year's M4s are very academic/gunner-like, the M3s are more service oriented, and the M2s are more academic/gunner-like.
 
MedPR said:
Apparently SLU kind of alternates what they're looking for in each class. I get the impression that this year's M4s are very academic/gunner-like, the M3s are more service oriented, and the M2s are more academic/gunner-like.
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Where did you hear this?
 
JifyPuf said:
II here a few days ago! It's really cool they tell you who you are interviewing with. Wondering if anyone can tell me anything about Dr. Fred Rottnek and his interview style? Also if any current students will weigh in on their experiences at SLU? Is the "wellness" campaign actually beneficial? How do people do on step 1? What's the general type/stereotypical student that SLU attracts? Thanks, and good luck everyone!
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Dr. Rottnek is incredibly kind, sociable and easy-going. He's an FM doctor, you're gonna be fine. What would you like to know about my experience? I'm a 4th year student. I've really enjoyed my time at SLU, I think i am well trained as compared to other 4th year students I've been around. The sterotypical SLU student, if there is such a thing, is someone who is dedicated to learning medicine but also enjoying life while doing so. That said, I think such a question is really hard to answer and I'm not sure that any such answer really gives the true breadth of any particular class.

On average SLU students perform above the national average by about 5-10 points on Step 1. THe wellness campaign was started after my pre-clinical times really but focuses on reminding you to live life even while you're in medical school, and to take time for yourself. In general I think its events and the person running it provide a positive impact on students (and in fact, they are studying what exact benefits it has with a prospective study, iirc).


MedPR said:
Apparently SLU kind of alternates what they're looking for in each class. I get the impression that this year's M4s are very academic/gunner-like, the M3s are more service oriented, and the M2s are more academic/gunner-like.
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Clichebomb said:
Where did you hear this?
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MedPR said:
Current slusom students in each class I mentioned

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As an M4, I can tell you this is just baloney. Honestly, the culture at SLU is a positive one. There are gunners and service types in each class and one persons perspective does not convince me of any trend. I think the overall picture is what's more important here.
 
migm said:
Dr. Rottnek is incredibly kind, sociable and easy-going. He's an FM doctor, you're gonna be fine. What would you like to know about my experience? I'm a 4th year student. I've really enjoyed my time at SLU, I think i am well trained as compared to other 4th year students I've been around. The sterotypical SLU student, if there is such a thing, is someone who is dedicated to learning medicine but also enjoying life while doing so. That said, I think such a question is really hard to answer and I'm not sure that any such answer really gives the true breadth of any particular class.

On average SLU students perform above the national average by about 5-10 points on Step 1. THe wellness campaign was started after my pre-clinical times really but focuses on reminding you to live life even while you're in medical school, and to take time for yourself. In general I think its events and the person running it provide a positive impact on students (and in fact, they are studying what exact benefits it has with a prospective study, iirc).
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While you're answering questions, as an M4, how would you rank the quality of responsibilities you have as a medical student? i.e. are you doing a lot of scut-work, or are you performing a lot of procedures, stuff like placing ultrasound guided IVs, etc. And how do you think what is expected of you compares with other institutions that may receive more or less funding? Thanks for coming on the pre-med threads and answering these questions!
 
migm said:
As an M4, I can tell you this is just baloney. Honestly, the culture at SLU is a positive one. There are gunners and service types in each class and one persons perspective does not convince me of any trend. I think the overall picture is what's more important here.
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The common opinion of 17 people spread across three classrs hold more weight than your single opinion, sorry. I never said the culture wasn't positive. I said that there are different trends in each class.

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MedPR said:
The common opinion of 17 people spread across three classrs hold more weight than your single opinion, sorry. I never said the culture wasn't positive. I said that there are different trends in each class.

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I respectfully disagree. Even if there were trends, this distinction is unimportant as the class is large enough that this trend doesn't effect a single individuals education or experience (which is what matters).
 
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MedPR said:
The common opinion of 17 people spread across three classrs hold more weight than your single opinion, sorry. I never said the culture wasn't positive. I said that there are different trends in each class.

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i talked to 34 people who said all years were non-gunner. oh yeah, and the fourth year above has attended the school for four years -- wasn't sure if you knew that's how it worked.
 
Geebeejay said:
While you're answering questions, as an M4, how would you rank the quality of responsibilities you have as a medical student? i.e. are you doing a lot of scut-work, or are you performing a lot of procedures, stuff like placing ultrasound guided IVs, etc. And how do you think what is expected of you compares with other institutions that may receive more or less funding? Thanks for coming on the pre-med threads and answering these questions!
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As always, I think this depends a lot on what service you're on, the attendings, the experience and familiarity of the residents, the acuity of the patient, how busy the service is, and your confidence and experience. In terms of the procedures that everyone wants to do, I would say towards the end of my 3rd year I had gotten a lot of experience with this (but I'm going into a procedure-heavy field). Moreso in 4th year.

Can you define what you would say is scut work?

With regards of what is expected of me.. I'm not sure I follow. In terms of clinical competence, with regards to procedures, taking care of patients? I will say in general that there is a wide range of skills during the clinical years, with some students significantly stronger than others. The attendings and residents work hard to get you to where you need to be, or support you as you advance. I've always thought the expectations were within reason, but this is only my opinion.
 
migm said:
With regards of what is expected of me.. I'm not sure I follow. In terms of clinical competence, with regards to procedures, taking care of patients? I will say in general that there is a wide range of skills during the clinical years, with some students significantly stronger than others. The attendings and residents work hard to get you to where you need to be, or support you as you advance. I've always thought the expectations were within reason, but this is only my opinion.
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This is more or less the answer I was looking for, so thanks. My definition of scut work is work that no one else wants to do, so the lowest ranking person is sent to do it. At Shaws, scut work would be shagging carts in the parking lot....as a medical student, I'm thinking (but not sure) that would be stuff like entering past medical histories and medications into EMR, running back and forth to central supply for equipment, etc. Obviously, I expect to do some of this periodically, but would like to know to what extent, and was curious what your experience was at SLU.

I expect I'll learn more once I interview, but at a school like SLU I would expect (for various reasons) to perform more procedures and "do" more as a medical student than I would at a school in an area like Boston. But I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong.
 
Geebeejay said:
This is more or less the answer I was looking for, so thanks. My definition of scut work is work that no one else wants to do, so the lowest ranking person is sent to do it. At Shaws, scut work would be shagging carts in the parking lot....as a medical student, I'm thinking (but not sure) that would be stuff like entering past medical histories and medications into EMR, running back and forth to central supply for equipment, etc. Obviously, I expect to do some of this periodically, but would like to know to what extent, and was curious what your experience was at SLU.

I expect I'll learn more once I interview, but at a school like SLU I would expect (for various reasons) to perform more procedures and "do" more as a medical student than I would at a school in an area like Boston.
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You're going to have to earn your place. Everyone does scut, AKA doing whatever is needed to take care of patients. Those who do so enthusiastically and without teeth-pulling are rewarded. Documentation, getting supplies, assisting in surgery is all part of the gig and part of your learning. I would encourage you to not worry about this - the clinical experience is overwhelmingly positive and focusing on a single aspect like this (especially without any experience of your own on the wards) isn't worth it imo.
 
migm said:
You're going to have to earn your place. Everyone does scut, AKA doing whatever is needed to take care of patients. Those who do so enthusiastically and without teeth-pulling are rewarded. Documentation, getting supplies, assisting in surgery is all part of the gig and part of your learning. I would encourage you to not worry about this - the clinical experience is overwhelmingly positive and focusing on a single aspect like this (especially without any experience of your own on the wards) isn't worth it imo.
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Fair enough....I just know that at some institutions medical students end up doing more "scut work" than at others. Wanted to see how you thought SLU compared. But as long as that's not all you're doing, then that's good enough for me. Thanks for the info.
 
Just wondering if anybody has interviewed with/has any info about Dr. Bradley Davitt?
 
The only thing that I wanted the Adcom to know was about my plans for this coming year since I am no longer a student. Do you think it will be negatively looked upon if I don't submit the essay about additional information? Did anyone get an interview without submitting it? OOS, 31Q, 3.9
 
Any knowledge about Dr.Jothika Manepalli? She seems like a really awesome woman, looking forward to the interview with her.
 
hokie2012 said:
The only thing that I wanted the Adcom to know was about my plans for this coming year since I am no longer a student. Do you think it will be negatively looked upon if I don't submit the essay about additional information? Did anyone get an interview without submitting it? OOS, 31Q, 3.9
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I would look at this space as an opportunity to "sell yourself" and explain why you're applying to SLU. I probably wouldn't leave it blank if you can help it.
 
Buttermellow said:
Any knowledge about Dr.Jothika Manepalli? She seems like a really awesome woman, looking forward to the interview with her.
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She's a psychiatrist, prepare to be analyzed! 🙂
 
migm said:
She's a psychiatrist, prepare to be analyzed! 🙂
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Last cycle I actually had an interview by a geriatric psychiatry specialist at a different school. What are the chances, haha.
 
complete around mid August and no response yet. Did it pass over me? or are people getting interviews around that time right now?
 
2dogs said:
Invite! Non-trad, 4.02 gpa, 33 O mcat, complete sometime around mid-August. Good luck to all of you who will be interviewing!
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If this isnt non-traditional I dont know what is
 
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