2019-2020 Pittsburgh

[Medicalmelon]

Looks like second look is canceled!! I talked to a nice student over the phone. IDK if it's official yet, tho

Heard the same from a student as well

I think its pretty set that its not going to run. All classes today at the undergrad and grad level were canceled at Pitt, and it looks like students are being encouraged to stay home (aka not in the dorms) for the rest of the semester. I can't see them hosting Second Look given those circumstances.

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[PittMedStudent]

Second Look Weekend has been canceled.

Here's the link to the group btw Log into Facebook | Facebook
I'm sure more updates will be found here.

 

[sumocumlaude]

Hi everyone, I am new here. I have a question about final grades before enrollment, and I would appreciate some insight from people who have gotten accepted already (or anyone, really).

Some context: I am a Master's student currently considering withdrawing from a non-required course (the course is an elective in a different school outside of my program). This would result in my final transcript showing "WD" for the course I would have withdrawn from.

I am currently waitlisted at Pitt but, in the fortunate case that I am accepted, would my withdrawal from this course rescind my hypothetical acceptance? I do not know what the acceptance letter says about final grades, so I am wondering if I can get some insider's perspective on this.

Thanks!

Edit: I have already sent pitt my transcripts, which includes my spring 2020 course work (and the course I would like to withdraw from). I am not sure if this changes anything.

 

[deleted962695]

I think because schools can't see where else you are accepted, it doesn't matter if its before or after ivy league schools release decisions. Most people would wait regardless to get financial aid information, so it's not like they would instantly withdraw (most people).

When does financial aid information come out for accepted students (at Pitt and just generally)? I am trying to gauge when I might see some waitlist movement given that I am on 3 WLs lol.

 

[Dream of the Endless]

When does financial aid information come out for accepted students (at Pitt and just generally)? I am trying to gauge when I might see some waitlist movement given that I am on 3 WLs lol.

First week of April is standard for programs that haven't rolled it out yet. Expect WL movement around the time people have to narrow to 3 schools, which is 1-2 weeks after that

 

[Medicalmelon]

Has anyone gotten financial aid packages yet?

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Has anyone gotten financial aid packages yet? They said they would arrive in two weeks but still haven't gotten it

I have not received anything, but I was told that we would not get the packages until early to mid April

 

[deleted962695]

Totally missed that first wave of WL movement, I did not submit a letter of interest until after that wave...I wonder if my chances are ruined because of that.

 

[cu2med]

I have not received anything, but I was told that we would not get the packages until early to mid April

Ugh I better get them by April 15th, I’ll be upset if I have to narrow down my school list without fin aid info


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[SleazySalesMed]

Ugh I better get them by April 15th, I’ll be upset if I have to narrow down my school list without fin aid info


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They sent an email this morning that they are still open and working. Just no in-person visits

 

[SleazySalesMed]

When Pitt posts their match list, anyone mind posting the link? Working, but interested

 

[Chromium Surfer]

When Pitt posts their match list, anyone mind posting the link? Working, but interested

Found this in the match list 2020 thread in allo:

Anesthesiology (12):
Barnes‐Jewish
Beth Israel Deaconess
Cleveland Clinic - Florida
Johns Hopkins
Northwestern
Ohio State University
U Washington
Pitt x 2
Vanderbilt x 2
Virginia Mason

Dermatology (2):
Vermont
U Texas South Western

Emergency Medicine (12):
Rutgers
Allegheny General
Creighton
Penn
University of South Carolina
UNV
University of Virginia
Pitt x 5

Family Medicine (10):
UPMC St Margaret
Penn
MacNeal Hospital
McKay‐Dee Hospital
OHSU
Piedmont Columbus Regional
Poudre Valley Hospital
Colorado
Rochester
Ventura County

Internal Medicine (27):
Mayo
Brigham & Womens
Emory
Penn
Johns Hopkins x 4
Massachusetts Gen x 2
Northwestern x 2
NYU
U Maryland
U Massachusetts
U Washington
University of Virginia
Pitt x 10

Internal Medicine / Emergency Medicine (1):
Henry Ford Hospital

Internal Medicine / Pediatrics (1):
Pitt

Neurosurgery (3):
Pitt
Massachusetts Gen
St. Joseph's Hospital

Neurology (3):
Pitt
Mount Sinai
Northwestern

OBGYN (4):
Rochester
Case Western
Northwestern
Presence Saint Francis Hospital

Ophthalmology (1):
Illinois Eye and Ear Infirmary

Orthopedic Surgery (3):
Pitt x 2
Brooke Army Medical Center

ENT (2):
Penn
Barnes‐Jewish

Pathology (1):
Massachusetts Gen

Pediatrics (11):
Portsmouth Naval Hospital
Cincinnati Childrens
Northwestern McGaw/Lurie Childrens
Colorado x 2
Maryland
U Washington
University at Buffalo
University of Utah
Pitt
Western Michigan University

PM&R (3):
Pitt x 2
Carolinas Med Center

Plastic Surgery (integrated) (3):
Mount Sinai
Pitt x 2

Psychiatry (8):
Pitt x 2
Brigham & Womens
Massachusetts Gen
Cincinnati
UC San Diego
UC San Francisco
Vanderbilt

Diagnostic Radiology (5):
Pitt
Barnes‐Jewish Hospital
Brigham & Womens
Duke
Penn

General Surgery (9):
UC San Diego
Brigham & Womens
Penn
Mount Sinai
NYP ‐ Columbia
NYU
Rutgers
Miami
University of Michigan

Surgery (preliminary) (2):
Allegheny General Hospital
Colorado

Thoracic Surgery (integrated) (1):
NYU

Urology (4):
Vanderbilt x 2
Virginia Commonwealth University
Pitt

Vascular Surgery (2):
Pitt x 2

 

[b1209]

is there going to be a virtual second look? I'm not sure if i missed whether they would be holding one or not

 

[deleted840028]

I know some schools only have exams on Fridays or Mondays. Does anyone know what days Pitt typically have their exams?

 

[PreMedStudent55555]

is there going to be a virtual second look? I'm not sure if i missed whether they would be holding one or not

they’re thinking about making a virtual one. Haven’t confirmed it yet

 

[PreMedStudent55555]

I know some schools only have exams on Fridays or Mondays. Does anyone know what days Pitt typically have their exams?

It’s usually Fridays I think. You can good Pitt academic calendar and their exams mostly fall on a friday

 

[PreMedStudent55555]

Update: There’s a virtual look on April 24

 

[SleazySalesMed]

Has there been any confirmed conversations about curricular changes secondary to the new step changes? Or is it too late for us lmao. I was hoping a potential change was already in the works before Step happened. So many quality programs are moving away from traditional.

Also, here's hoping for that sweet Finaid before next week ends so I can finally make a decision and start apartment shopping

 

[lil'mochi]

Hi guys. I am new to SDN I will be applying in 2021. I was just wondering if my stats were okay to apply to Pitt?
cGPA: 3.75
sGPA: 3.6
MCAT: 520
Extracurricular activities: 2 internships, 1 year of research (9 months wet lab, 4 months Human trafficking research), will be doing another year of research during gap year
Clinical Experience: worked in a health clinic as a referral specialist (scheduling patient appointments and served as the Membership Director for the internship program). Almost 80 hours of shadowing. Almost 200 hours of volunteering in pediatric hospital. Almost 100 hours volunteering in local and on campus food pantry.
Served as a students instructor for biology for 2 years
Leadership positions: 3 exec board positions for 3 students organizations and membership director for clinic's intern program.
Little concerned because my last two years of college weren't that great bc I had family issues, so I received a B- in biochemistry and microbe. In the fall semester of my senior year, I took a class and got a C+ (it was not one of the science prerequisites). I will be retaking this class at a different higher ranked university (this school is closer to where I live). But my final semester, got all As. But I worked by butt off for the MCAT. Is it okay to have some bumps in the grades? Should I consider a post bac?

 

[lil'mochi]

^I apologize for any spelling/grammar errors!

 

[deleted1009711]

Has there been any confirmed conversations about curricular changes secondary to the new step changes? Or is it too late for us lmao. I was hoping a potential change was already in the works before Step happened. So many quality programs are moving away from traditional.

Also, here's hoping for that sweet Finaid before next week ends so I can finally make a decision and start apartment shopping

Lmao meanwhile err-body on the waitlist just be like:

You can have my fin-aid, please take my money, just lemme in XD

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Hi guys. I am new to SDN I will be applying in 2021. I was just wondering if my stats were okay to apply to Pitt?
cGPA: 3.75
sGPA: 3.6
MCAT: 520
Extracurricular activities: 2 internships, 1 year of research (9 months wet lab, 4 months Human trafficking research), will be doing another year of research during gap year
Clinical Experience: worked in a health clinic as a referral specialist (scheduling patient appointments and served as the Membership Director for the internship program). Almost 80 hours of shadowing. Almost 200 hours of volunteering in pediatric hospital. Almost 100 hours volunteering in local and on campus food pantry.
Served as a students instructor for biology for 2 years
Leadership positions: 3 exec board positions for 3 students organizations and membership director for clinic's intern program.
Little concerned because my last two years of college weren't that great bc I had family issues, so I received a B- in biochemistry and microbe. In the fall semester of my senior year, I took a class and got a C+ (it was not one of the science prerequisites). I will be retaking this class at a different higher ranked university (this school is closer to where I live). But my final semester, got all As. But I worked by butt off for the MCAT. Is it okay to have some bumps in the grades? Should I consider a post bac?

You should check out this forum: https://forums.studentdoctor.net/forums/what-are-my-chances-wamc-medical.418/and make a WAMC post there. Then some of the admissions committee members should be able to help you out and give you feedback on all your activities and generate a potential school list for you.

Your stats are good for pretty much any school including Pitt. Research seems good enough, clinical experience is solid. Your nonclinical volunteering is a little low so if you can boost that to 150-200 hours that would be better but that shouldn't sink your app too much. Definitely do not need to do a postbac, and I think you should throw out an app to Pitt but do your best to make your secondaries align with the mission of Pitt.

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Has there been any confirmed conversations about curricular changes secondary to the new step changes? Or is it too late for us lmao. I was hoping a potential change was already in the works before Step happened. So many quality programs are moving away from traditional.

Also, here's hoping for that sweet Finaid before next week ends so I can finally make a decision and start apartment shopping

In the FB group a student on the curriculum committee said they are making changes but it wont affect the incoming M1's. They did say they are considering how to beef up the resources that students get for Step 2 study.

 

[SleazySalesMed]

In the FB group a student on the curriculum committee said they are making changes but it wont affect the incoming M1's. They did say they are considering how to beef up the resources that students get for Step 2 study.

Ah, that blows. Thanks

Lmao meanwhile err-body on the waitlist just be like:

You can have my fin-aid, please take my money, just lemme in XD

Spots will open up once it's released and that will in turn put more money into circulation. Though it's supposedly all need based, so your time of acceptance probably won't change your offer. I get your joke all the same lol

 

[PreMedStudent55555]

Hi guys. I am new to SDN I will be applying in 2021. I was just wondering if my stats were okay to apply to Pitt?
cGPA: 3.75
sGPA: 3.6
MCAT: 520
Extracurricular activities: 2 internships, 1 year of research (9 months wet lab, 4 months Human trafficking research), will be doing another year of research during gap year
Clinical Experience: worked in a health clinic as a referral specialist (scheduling patient appointments and served as the Membership Director for the internship program). Almost 80 hours of shadowing. Almost 200 hours of volunteering in pediatric hospital. Almost 100 hours volunteering in local and on campus food pantry.
Served as a students instructor for biology for 2 years
Leadership positions: 3 exec board positions for 3 students organizations and membership director for clinic's intern program.
Little concerned because my last two years of college weren't that great bc I had family issues, so I received a B- in biochemistry and microbe. In the fall semester of my senior year, I took a class and got a C+ (it was not one of the science prerequisites). I will be retaking this class at a different higher ranked university (this school is closer to where I live). But my final semester, got all As. But I worked by butt off for the MCAT. Is it okay to have some bumps in the grades? Should I consider a post bac?

Hey I got in this year and wanted to give you some input. I think all your stats are good but your sGPA is a little lower so check out MSAR to see how you're faring exactly. However, your higher MCAT should allow you some leniency. I wouldn't do a post bac if I were you though as that's too much effort and probably wouldn't impact your grades much.

I do want to say though that I think Pitt is definitely one of the more holistic medical schools in terms of admissions. If you look at MSAR, compared to our T15 ranking, the matriculant GPA and MCAT is a bit lower because I truly believe this medical school looks at the entire applicant and their story. So if I were you, I wouldn't worry too much about your stats but more about how you can stand out with your story.

Best of luck!

 

[supsupsup]

Does anyone know when financial aid packages are supposed to come out?

 

[relm]

Does anyone know when financial aid packages are supposed to come out?

Financial Aid office told me sometime this week! So hopefully if everything goes right, by this friday lol

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Financial Aid office told me sometime this week! So hopefully if everything goes right, by this friday lol

When did you hear this and did they email or call you?

Also if anyone else heard anything please share lol

 

[relm]

When did you hear this and did they email or call you?

Also if anyone else heard anything please share lol

Relax my friendsssss! I emailed bc I thought I still had a document missing and in the same email asked about when they would be sending packages. Literally got the response like an hour ago!

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Relax my friendsssss! I emailed bc I thought I still had a document missing and in the same email asked about when they would be sending packages. Literally got the response like an hour ago!

For sure thanks friend! Covid induced isolation got me feeling some type of way

 

[PreMedStudent55555]

Just got my financial aid package!! Super hyped!

 

[SleazySalesMed]

Just got my financial aid package!! Super hyped!

At this time of night? Lol

 

[supsupsup]

Just got my financial aid too! Idk why they’re sending out aid at this time of night but I cannot complain lol

 

[PreMedStudent55555]

Just got my financial aid too! Idk why they’re sending out aid at this time of night but I cannot complain lol

Lmao same!

 

[Btech305]

Like that they put the fin aid details directly in the email, strongly dislike those loaaaans

 

[vrazzles]

I got my financial aid packet today! Pitt seems to be pretty generous with need-based aid for sure!

 

[deleted996731]

Do any WL think we’ll hear back this week? Last year was the Thursday of the first week of April

 

[yennefer]

Do any WL think we’ll hear back this week? Last year was the Thursday of the first week of April

I'm hoping!

 

[b1209]

Got my financial aid - most likely will not be able to afford this place

my exact reaction when I woke up to my financial aid package email lol I'm so sad

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Got my financial aid - most likely will not be able to afford this place

my exact reaction when I woke up to my financial aid package email lol I'm so sad

I feel you both

Do you have better financial aid offers from other schools?

 

[b1209]

I feel you both

Do you have better financial aid offers from other schools?

yes, but pitt was my dream - out of my options they have the best name + great research

do you think they are receptive to negotiations?

 

[haha2020]

yes, but pitt was my dream - out of my options they have the best name + great research

do you think they are receptive to negotiations?

From what I understand from my M1 friends, Pitt does not match any financial aid offers since they do need-based only you could double check though! Maybe policies have changed

 

[relm]

I feel absolutely devastated! Pitt was by far my favorite school but the financial aid was not at all what I expected

 

[relm]

From what I understand from my M1 friends, Pitt does not match any financial aid offers since they do need-based only

The other schools offering need based still gave like 50k more. I am so confused about how Pitt determined this!

 

[haha2020]

The other schools offering need based still gave like 50k more. I am so confused about how Pitt determined this!

I’m so sorry your offer was so much different from other schools you were accepted at! I do not know how they determine financial aid, I just have heard they don’t match. Wouldn’t hurt to ask though!

 

[Medicalmelon]

Did anyone receive any grants or subsidized? Really interested to know if they offer anything other than unsubsidized or grad plus loans. I only got those two and I am really disappointed.

The other schools offering need based still gave like 50k more. I am so confused about how Pitt determined this!

Same here - completely devastated as to how different Pitt was from other awards. Pitt was my number one going into this...

yes, but pitt was my dream - out of my options they have the best name + great research

do you think they are receptive to negotiations?

 

[Chromium Surfer]

Did anyone receive any grants or subsidized? Really interested to know if they offer anything other than unsubsidized or grad plus loans. I only got those two and I am really disappointed.

I think that just means you did not qualify for any aid. I think people who do qualify for aid get need based grants.

 

[nickster121]

I qualified for some need-based aid, but not much. How did the average student for the most recent class graduate with ~$175,000 debt? Based on maths, I’m looking to owe much more if I attend Pitt. :/

 

[SleazySalesMed]

I qualified for some need-based aid, but not much. How did the average student for the most recent class graduate with ~$175,000 debt? Based on maths, I’m looking to owe much more if I attend Pitt. :/

You're probably assuming that value reflects that everyone in the class graduates with an "even amount of debt" if that makes sense. A better example is like: Joe graduates with 240k debt, Cindy graduates with 0 for an average of 120k.

Here's a recent thread that points out some of the flaws. Tl;dr Parents bankrolling education lowers debt because many of your classmates will be well off. And statistically, many students come from the top quintile of American income

how is average indebtedness so low?

so it seems that most schools have an average indebtedness of around 200k, yet based on yearly COA, that figure should be higher. eg Tufts COA is around 100k, yet average indebtedness is only 222k what gives? what happened to the other 200k?

forums.studentdoctor.net

 

[Medicalmelon]

I qualified for some need-based aid, but not much. How did the average student for the most recent class graduate with ~$175,000 debt? Based on maths, I’m looking to owe much more if I attend Pitt. :/

I heard from a current student yesterday that I was put into contact with that its actually 205,000. I asked them the same and they said it was higher than the national average.