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The-Medical-Mamba said:
It’s NY. Upper east side. “top 10”. Ivy League. Debt free. Small class.

something tells me they don’t anticipate a lot of people turning that down. Especially in light of the P/F news. You can’t overshoot for much, so better to play it safe.
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On second thought, all this was true except for p/f step 1 and their a rate was still 35%. What do you think it will be? Maybe 10?
 
The-Medical-Mamba said:
It’s NY. Upper east side. “top 10”. Ivy League. Debt free. Small class.

something tells me they don’t anticipate a lot of people turning that down. Especially in light of the P/F news. You can’t overshoot for much, so better to play it safe.
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Isn't it only debt-free for students who qualify for financial aid? I.e if your parents make over a certain minimum, which many "top" students are financially well off per AAMC, then you still have to pay. Or am I understanding it wrong? I thought it differed from NYU's free tuition for all model
 
juliannewman said:
On second thought, all this was true except for p/f step 1 and their a rate was still 35%. What do you think it will be? Maybe 10?
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Nah, I think this upcoming year is the first they'll be debt-free. And I know usnews rankings are pretty meaningless, but they weren't "top 10" according to them until recently.
 
StormPhoenix said:
Isn't it only debt-free for students who qualify for financial aid? I.e if your parents make over a certain minimum, which many "top" students are financially well off per AAMC, then you still have to pay. Or am I understanding it wrong? I thought it differed from NYU's free tuition for all model
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You are correct.
 
StormPhoenix said:
Isn't it only debt-free for students who qualify for financial aid? I.e if your parents make over a certain minimum, which many "top" students are financially well off per AAMC, then you still have to pay. Or am I understanding it wrong? I thought it differed from NYU's free tuition for all model
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From my understanding, you pay whatever your efc comes out to be according to fafsa and then the rest of your aid, up to the cost of attendance, is covered by a need-based institutional grant. No unit loans.
 
sweetpotatofriess said:
From my understanding, you pay whatever your efc comes out to be according to fafsa and then the rest of your aid, up to the cost of attendance, is covered by a need-based institutional grant. No unit loans.
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Oh, this is great. I don't know why I had like this binary "You either get it your don't" model in my head. Makes more sense that way. New York schools have all this money, next Sinai needs to hurry up and join the bandwagon lol
 
StormPhoenix said:
Oh, this is great. I don't know why I had like this binary "You either get it your don't" model in my head. Makes more sense that way. New York schools have all this money, next Sinai needs to hurry up and join the bandwagon lol
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I hope all schools join the bandwagon
 
StormPhoenix said:
Oh, this is great. I don't know why I had like this binary "You either get it your don't" model in my head. Makes more sense that way. New York schools have all this money, next Sinai needs to hurry up and join the bandwagon lol
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Even with this system only about 50% of their current student body was eligible for it. I’m looking for the link but it was in an article when they released it. To establish an EFC of 90K requires north of 300k family income. Meaning around half of their students across all four years felt no effect from the debt free initiative.

Cornell post II acceptance rate of around 39% is probably going to drop, but I doubt it will be a significant amount. The two schools that are most likely to take students from them have equal or better financial aid. They also have equal or a little bit better ranking. The difference between Cornell and Columbia is splitting hairs, but still.
 
hungry_african said:
Anyone have any idea what their post interview acceptance rate might be? I'm seeing ~35% on previous posts, but i'm guessing debt-free tuition might make that number a fair amount lower this cycle.
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Remember, debt free is relative to EFC, so a chunk of acceptances won't be affected by debt free in their choice. EFC doesn't equal actual FC so many will be in debt anyway.
 
proudofmykids said:
Remember, debt free is relative to EFC, so a chunk of acceptances won't be affected by debt free in their choice. EFC doesn't equal actual FC so many will be in debt anyway.
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I still think 35% is too high for initial decisions. Approx 700 interviewers means 245 for a class size of 100? No way.

Is initial decision acceptance rates even reporter? Maybe that’s the % for overall decision (including those taken off the waitlist).

also, I’m just thinking about those students that turned down Cornell because of aid.. like those we just got more need based aid from state schools or other programs.

And also, I feel like the pool may have gotten more competitive. People hear debt free, like me, get all excited and apply lol.

still I don’t know anything. I’m just speculating and trying to think about this more realistically for myself
 
Where are we getting this 35% initial acceptance rate from? In the interview packet, it was explicitly stated that 750-800 people will be interviewed this cycle and initial acceptances will go out to 106 people, their class size. After that, the waitlist moves. I agree with @The-Medical-Mamba , that percentage seems to include waitlist movement.
 
jjame said:
Where are we getting this 35% initial acceptance rate from? In the interview packet, it was explicitly stated that 750-800 people will be interviewed this cycle and initial acceptances will go out to 106 people, their class size. After that, the waitlist moves. I agree with @The-Medical-Mamba , that percentage seems to include waitlist movement.
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They definitely give out more than 106 initial acceptances. They probably mean at least 106.
 
jjame said:
Where are we getting this 35% initial acceptance rate from? In the interview packet, it was explicitly stated that 750-800 people will be interviewed this cycle and initial acceptances will go out to 106 people, their class size. After that, the waitlist moves. I agree with @The-Medical-Mamba , that percentage seems to include waitlist movement.
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Hmm that’s not what mine says and I was there in September. Could you share yours ?
 
proudofmykids said:
106 is matriculants.

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This, unfortunately, isn't reflective of the whole debt-free thing now.

I think there's just no telling what the initial post-II decision is going to be. But like some other people have mentioned, with Cornell's "T10 Ranking" and being debt free, it's smarter for them to play it safe and pull from the waitlist, rather than risk over accepting. I think 125-135 initially is generous ... especially because they'll know what number of their students will be low SES just from reviewing their app and, thus, more likely to attend.
 
ORTHO-G0D said:
This, unfortunately, isn't reflective of the whole debt-free thing now.

I think there's just no telling what the initial post-II decision is going to be. But like some other people have mentioned, with Cornell's "T10 Ranking" and being debt free, it's smarter for them to play it safe and pull from the waitlist, rather than risk over accepting. I think 125-135 initially is generous ... especially because they'll know what number of their students will be low SES just from reviewing their app and, thus, more likely to attend.
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Columbia has been doing the exact same thing for 2-3 years (debt free, top 10, slight edge over Cornell) and still accepting ~280 for an entering class of 150. I doubt Cornell will change drastically as they will still lose folks to Harvard/Penn/Stanford/etc which are generous with financial aid too.
 
thesecretisme123 said:
Columbia has been doing the exact same thing for 2-3 years (debt free, top 10, slight edge over Cornell) and still accepting ~280 for an entering class of 150. I doubt Cornell will change drastically as they will still lose folks to Harvard/Penn/Stanford/etc which are generous with financial aid too.
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Again, is 280 the initial decision? AKA during the week they're making phone calls in late Feb-Early March, they'll be calling ~280? That's what I doubt.

Cornell also has a smaller class.
 
Alas, my stupidity knows no bounds. I apologize, beloved comrades, for erring in my ways.

Indeed, the info sheet provided no information re: initial acceptances.

When I read the physical sheet, I caveman-spongebob’d because it said they interview 750-800 as opposed to the website’s 700-750. I previously saw my chances as 106/750, and kept on telling people this, and was rather ~ruffled~ when I saw the number of candidates as even higher. Particularly because this is my only interview. O sweet Big Red, why dost thou treat me so?


ORTHO-G0D said:
Again, is 280 the initial decision? AKA during the week they're making phone calls in late Feb-Early March, they'll be calling ~280? That's what I doubt.

Cornell also has a smaller class.
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Phone calls? Late Feb? Last year they emailed and started that in early March. I believe waitlisted applicants were given calls.
 

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jjame said:
Alas, my stupidity knows no bounds. I apologize, beloved comrades, for erring in my ways.

Indeed, the info sheet provided no information re: initial acceptances.

When I read the physical sheet, I caveman-spongebob’d because it said they interview 750-800 as opposed to the website’s 700-750. I previously saw my chances as 106/750, and kept on telling people this, and was rather ~ruffled~ when I saw the number of candidates as even higher. Particularly because this is my only interview. O sweet Big Red, why dost thou treat me so?




Phone calls? Late Feb? Last year they emailed and started that in early March. I believe waitlisted applicants were given calls.
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whatever the day is. we just know it’s before March 15.

yes I know waitlist people get phone calls too...but they likely don’t pull from Waitlist until after 4/30.

so I’m saying the amount of calls between when the start and 4/30 is unlikely to be much greater than the class size in fear of overshooting
 
ORTHO-G0D said:
This, unfortunately, isn't reflective of the whole debt-free thing now.

I think there's just no telling what the initial post-II decision is going to be. But like some other people have mentioned, with Cornell's "T10 Ranking" and being debt free, it's smarter for them to play it safe and pull from the waitlist, rather than risk over accepting. I think 125-135 initially is generous ... especially because they'll know what number of their students will be low SES just from reviewing their app and, thus, more likely to attend.
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The one flaw in your logic is that Cornell will now have a higher yield in low SES aide takers. Many of the other T10 and T20 have generous aide for low EFC need based aide. So even if a unit loan was needed to be taken at a more ‘preferable/better fit’ top school for a candidate, they typically range from $20-$30k per year at which point many candidates still would pick their own better fit despite additional $80-$120k total debt.

For the comment above about Columbia already having debt free for need based aid, their yield (~60%) has always been higher than Cornell’s (33%).

Continuing the math for Cornell, even if their yield jumped to 40%, they would still send 265 Acceptances so I think anything less than 212 first pass Acceptances (non WL) would be Shocking.

Imho! ;-)
 
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proudofmykids said:
The one flaw in your logic is that Cornell will now have a higher yield in low SES aide takers. Many of the other T10 and T20 have generous aide for low EFC need based aide. So even if a unit loan was needed to be taken at a more ‘preferable/better fit’ top school for a candidate, they typically range from $20-$30k per year at which point many candidates still would pick their own better fit despite additional $80-$120k total debt.

For the comment above about Columbia already having debt free for need based aid, their yield (~60%) has always been higher than Cornell’s (33%).

Continuing the math for Cornell, even if their yield jumped to 40%, they would still send 265 Acceptances so I think anything less than 212 first pass Acceptances (non WL) would be Shocking.

Imho! ;-)
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i don’t know anything
~35% of us of are gonna get in I guess
 
juliannewman said:
It means they at least opened your email tho! Did you send a letter or interest or intent ?
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I'm sure your interviewers opened your emails too! Some just like to respond to their students while others don't/are not able to get to it. Responding is simply a kind gesture and likely has no influence on their perception of you or your file. They're doctors and busy faculty members, so responding to all their interviewees may not always be at the top of their list of priorities.

I sent a letter of updates but this was months after interviewing.
 
juliannewman said:
Did ppl get responses to their ty notes? Also any prophets in here predicting a certain release day?
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I did not go through all these threads, it was listed in last years thread, and I added last cycle date.

2019: Friday March 8
2018: Thursday March 8
2017: Thursday March 9
2016: Wednesday February 24
2015: Thursday March 12
2014: Thursday March 13
2013: Monday March 11
2012: Thursday March 15
2011: Tuesday March 8
2010: Wednesday March 3
2009: Friday February 27
2008: Friday March 7

It's looking like the end of the first full week of March, maybe March 5/6. It also could be Monday the 9th. It could be right now. I honestly don't know I'm a guy just hoping Weill Cornell likes me as much as I like it.
 
Bucgator24 said:
I did not go through all these threads, it was listed in last years thread, and I added last cycle date.

2019: Friday March 8
2018: Thursday March 8
2017: Thursday March 9
2016: Wednesday February 24
2015: Thursday March 12
2014: Thursday March 13
2013: Monday March 11
2012: Thursday March 15
2011: Tuesday March 8
2010: Wednesday March 3
2009: Friday February 27
2008: Friday March 7

It's looking like the end of the first full week of March, maybe March 5/6. It also could be Monday the 9th. It could be right now. I honestly don't know I'm a guy just hoping Weill Cornell likes me as much as I like it.
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Wow. Thank you for your service
 
Bucgator24 said:
I did not go through all these threads, it was listed in last years thread, and I added last cycle date.

2019: Friday March 8
2018: Thursday March 8
2017: Thursday March 9
2016: Wednesday February 24
2015: Thursday March 12
2014: Thursday March 13
2013: Monday March 11
2012: Thursday March 15
2011: Tuesday March 8
2010: Wednesday March 3
2009: Friday February 27
2008: Friday March 7

It's looking like the end of the first full week of March, maybe March 5/6. It also could be Monday the 9th. It could be right now. I honestly don't know I'm a guy just hoping Weill Cornell likes me as much as I like it.
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First week of March confirmed
 
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