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Verbal >80th%, Quant >70th%. Ballpark. If you're <60th%, no bueno.
Verbal >80th%, Quant >70th%. Ballpark. If you're <60th%, no bueno.
I'm searching through numerous Clinical Psychology PhD programs and have an interest the neurocorrelates of addiction (alcoholism, illicit substances, other). I began looking while knowing the competition is fierce, but am curious how I may actually stand up to some of the competition. As it stands, I began my post-high school experience at a community college and continuously switched my major, trying to find something I would want to stick with. During this growth phase my GPA dropped to a lowly 3.0. After finding psychology I transferred to a 4-year state university. My school picks are chosen mostly by person of interest research. My credentials are as follows:
Cumulative GPA: 3.3
University GPA - 3.9 (past 2.5 years)
Psychology GPA - 3.9 (2.5 years)
GRE - V: 162
GRE - Q: 160
GRE - W: 4.5
2 years of research experience in a severe psychopathology lab (Conducted compliance, emotional lability, and language processing assessments of subjects with Schizophrenia or Schizotypy. Interviewed and informed experimental populations. Utilized eye-tracking apparatus, EEG, physiological monitors, E-prime software. Alpha-tested iOS based mobile applications for “Big Data” collection. Transcribed and spliced audio and video files of patients with severe mental illness for publication)
1 year neuropsychology assessment lab: (Evaluated the correlation between executive functioning and assorted neuropsychological assessment batteries. Independently administer and scored numerous sub-tests of the WAIS-IV, RBANS, WMS-R, and the NAB. Administered experimental evaluations (Trail making task, Dot-counting task) and informed consent to undergraduate volunteers. Collected raw data and compiled datasets for 2 studies. Developed laboratory protocols as a member of a research team. Used E-prime software to identify elements of executive functioning. Trail making task, dot-counting task. Compiled datasets and protocols. E-Prime Software use attempting to identify various elements of executive functioning)
Statistical Consultant under names moved (Reviewed raw data and determined appropriate statistical devices for evaluating biological data. Normalized and transformed data per Journal of Bacteriology instruction to authors. Generated data output and graphs for publication in peer reviewed journal. Made suggestions and justified chosen tests. Explained how the statistics should be reported)
Publication:
Names removed. “The Role of RfaH Antitermination Control in Production and Phase Variation of Capsular Polysaccharide in the Marine Pathogen, Vibrio Vulnificus.” Journal of Bacteriology (2016)
Skills: Electroencephalograph. Audio Transcriptions. Audio/Video Splicing. Statistical Analysis. SPSS software. E-Prime software. WAIS-IV. WMS-V. NAB. RBANS
Volunteer Work: Oxford House addiction recovery housing. (2.5 years)
3 letters of rec
Rough draft pick:
Syracuse University
University of South Florida
UT southwestern medical center
Oklahoma state university
University of Arkansas
Olde Miss
University of Memphis
University of Missouri
Brigham Young University
University of Southern Mississippi
Texas Tech University
University of South Dakota
Kent State University
(there are several others I'm trying to decide from)
My concerns are that my publication isn't in psychology. I didn't present at a conference. My overall GPA is low, and various other details. Am I being overly concerned? How competitive am I for a Clinical Psychology PhD program? More specifically: what ranking of schools should I be realistically looking into.
I'm searching through numerous Clinical Psychology PhD programs and have an interest the neurocorrelates of addiction (alcoholism, illicit substances, other). I began looking while knowing the competition is fierce, but am curious how I may actually stand up to some of the competition. As it stands, I began my post-high school experience at a community college and continuously switched my major, trying to find something I would want to stick with. During this growth phase my GPA dropped to a lowly 3.0. After finding psychology I transferred to a 4-year state university. My school picks are chosen mostly by person of interest research. My credentials are as follows:
Cumulative GPA: 3.3
University GPA - 3.9 (past 2.5 years)
Psychology GPA - 3.9 (2.5 years)
GRE - V: 162
GRE - Q: 160
GRE - W: 4.5
2 years of research experience in a severe psychopathology lab (Conducted compliance, emotional lability, and language processing assessments of subjects with Schizophrenia or Schizotypy. Interviewed and informed experimental populations. Utilized eye-tracking apparatus, EEG, physiological monitors, E-prime software. Alpha-tested iOS based mobile applications for “Big Data” collection. Transcribed and spliced audio and video files of patients with severe mental illness for publication)
1 year neuropsychology assessment lab: (Evaluated the correlation between executive functioning and assorted neuropsychological assessment batteries. Independently administer and scored numerous sub-tests of the WAIS-IV, RBANS, WMS-R, and the NAB. Administered experimental evaluations (Trail making task, Dot-counting task) and informed consent to undergraduate volunteers. Collected raw data and compiled datasets for 2 studies. Developed laboratory protocols as a member of a research team. Used E-prime software to identify elements of executive functioning. Trail making task, dot-counting task. Compiled datasets and protocols. E-Prime Software use attempting to identify various elements of executive functioning)
Statistical Consultant under names moved (Reviewed raw data and determined appropriate statistical devices for evaluating biological data. Normalized and transformed data per Journal of Bacteriology instruction to authors. Generated data output and graphs for publication in peer reviewed journal. Made suggestions and justified chosen tests. Explained how the statistics should be reported)
Publication:
Names removed. “The Role of RfaH Antitermination Control in Production and Phase Variation of Capsular Polysaccharide in the Marine Pathogen, Vibrio Vulnificus.” Journal of Bacteriology (2016)
Skills: Electroencephalograph. Audio Transcriptions. Audio/Video Splicing. Statistical Analysis. SPSS software. E-Prime software. WAIS-IV. WMS-V. NAB. RBANS
Volunteer Work: Oxford House addiction recovery housing. (2.5 years)
3 letters of rec
Rough draft pick:
Syracuse University
University of South Florida
UT southwestern medical center
Oklahoma state university
University of Arkansas
Olde Miss
University of Memphis
University of Missouri
Brigham Young University
University of Southern Mississippi
Texas Tech University
University of South Dakota
Kent State University
(there are several others I'm trying to decide from)
My concerns are that my publication isn't in psychology. I didn't present at a conference. My overall GPA is low, and various other details. Am I being overly concerned? How competitive am I for a Clinical Psychology PhD program? More specifically: what ranking of schools should I be realistically looking into.
Not at the moment, I'm working my butt off trying to save money for applications and hopefully flight costs. But yeah, I've been looking at schools with a gleam in my eye when they mention anything about "last 60 credit hours are used to calculate your GPA". hahaI interviewed at several of the schools on your list and my cumulative GPA was only slightly higher at 3.5! I did have 2 pending psych pubs, but I think you have a lot of interesting & valuable experience *especially* if you can weave those skills and experiences into a cohesive narrative.
Some schools place more weight on GPA while others (from my experience) didn't even mention GPA (past a certain point).
Are you currently involved in any labs?
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Thank you for the prompt response, I may apply to a few schools in California as well, I would just ideally like to be closer to the family. If you had to quantify (a guesstimate of course), what do you think as of now, with those GRE scores, last 60 unit GPA, volunteer and strong research expirence my chance is at getting into a PhD program if I apply to say 6 Ph.D (and 4 master programs)?
Bumping this, hope that's allowed!Hi there, I would REALLY appreciate a response. I will be applying to clinical psych PhD programs for this upcoming application season (during my senior year of undergrad). Could really use someone to either calm me down and tell me I have a decent shot or crush my dreams and tell me there is no way.
GPA: 3.47
Psych GPA: 3.3
GRE: Not taken yet, studying now. Obviously need to do well to help compensate for GPA. (As a note/another question, I do not intend to take the subject test GRE. None of the programs I am applying to "require" it. Is that going to be a negative mark on my application or just kind of a neutral?)
Research Experience: 1.5 years in a neuropsych lab (not what I want to research for PhD), as well as an NIMH funded fellowship during this summer consisting of 10-weeks of 40hrs/week research in the same lab my 1.5 years experience comes from. During this fellowship we are basically leading our own projects, so I don't know if that helps me but I figure it looks better than "I did data entry all summer". I also have just joined a new lab for my senior year, and it looks like I may actually be developing projects with them, so taking a very active role which I'd be sure to emphasize in my personal statement.
Clinical: A summer of volunteering for a crisis center/suicide hotline (one of my main interest areas are research revolving around suicide).
Teaching: By the December deadline, I'll have been a TA for a psych 101 class for just under two semesters.
Poster: At the end of the fellowship this summer there will be a mini poster session, so I will have technically made and presented a poster (just not in a major conference).
No publications sadly.
Letters of rec: 2 pretty strong letters (one from a renowned professor, but not in the area I am applying to for PhD programs, and one from the departmental assistant dean who is a PhD professor), 1 moderately strong letter, all letters from PhD psychologists
Extra: Was secretary of a research club on campus.
I have a long list of programs I have researched thoroughly consisting of 30 schools that I plan to whittle down to about 15-17 schools by the time I start applying. Just as an example of some of the programs I am planning to apply to: Clark University, University of Georgia, Drexel University, University of Rhode Island, etc.
So, although I know my GPA isn't stellar and my whole application isn't necessarily amazing, do you think if applying to 15-17 schools I should get some interviews assuming I create a strong personal statement?
My first semester of college I took three classes (got grades A,D,F) received 1.667 gpa but later retook the two classes I failed so it increased my gpa to 4.0. Second semester I received 3.46 gpa. I did a Summer session and got a 4.0. Which brings my current gpa to 3.82
Along with my gpa, I also have a couple of withdraws.. Is that going to be a problem. I fear that my application is going to make me look irresponsible.
I currently attend a community college and it has been rough for various of personal reasons. I'll be starting at a university spring 2017 (as a junior) and by the time i apply for a graduate
program during my 3rd year I feel like I wont have enough (- or any) credentials to impress the high ranked schools I want to apply to. I really don't want to go into a masters program and then transfer to a phd program but i feel like that is what I might need to do to since i still haven't done any research and Im almost done with second year.
Im interested in a clinical psychology phd program.
Taking a gap year is what I'm kind of trying to avoid. Instead of taking a gap year, would it be better to do a masters so I can gain research experience and then apply for the phd? At least that way I'll have some of my credits transferable and i wont have to start fresh when starting the PhD. Im looking into accelerated master programs so It would only take me a year to get my master degree.You still have a chance, provided you:
(1) Stop thinking of anything less than an A as an acceptable course grade
(2) Resolve the personal problems that are genuine barriers to doing well in your studies
(3) Knock on doors and get into a research lab as an RA as soon as you start at the university; become a valuable asset to your lab
(4) Do very well on the GRE; don't take it without adequate preparation
(5) Don't apply to graduate programs until at least your senior year; accept that you may need a gap year or two
Taking a gap year is what I'm kind of trying to avoid. Instead of taking a gap year, would it be better to do a masters so I can gain research experience and then apply for the phd? At least that way I'll have some of my credits transferable and i wont have to start fresh when starting the PhD. Im looking into accelerated master programs so It would only take me a year to get my master degree.
Gap year, so like a post baccalaureate program?Taking a gap year can seem scary, but it can make all the difference. I had 1 small poster and a small amount of research experience. After my gap year, I had 3 posters at large conferences, 2 manuscripts in progress, and completed an NSF grant proposal. That gap year was essential. Unless you are doing an experimental master's, it's likely to not help that much. Transfer credits are usually capped & a lot of schools will be hesitant to accept credits for transfer.
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I have heard from some people who've entered a phd program with a masters, that they've gotten some electives removed because they were able to transfer in some classes they have previously taken at their other school where they did their masters.The way I see it, supposing your grades/academics are OK, if you can spend a year or two gainfully employed as a full- or part-time RA, you will be earning a salary rather than paying tuition (most master's programs don't let you "transfer in" to a doctoral program, BTW) and you'll get research experience that's at least as valuable if not more. Having a deep, long-term relationship with a PI will benefit you.
I have heard from some people who've entered a phd program with a masters, that they've gotten some electives removed because they were able to transfer in some classes they have previously taken at their other school where they did their masters.
WAMC?
I am applying to PsyD programs, but also want to apply to clinical and counseling Phd programs. Here are my stats:
Overall GPA: 3.82
Psych GPA: 3.95
GRE: Verbal 164 Quant 154 (projected scores, but haven't officially taken the test)
School: Graduated from top public university
Research experience: 2.5 years as an undergraduate research assistant, currently a research lab manager (1.5 years) for a well-respected professor. Developing a study, but not sure if a paper will be written in time. 1 poster presentation.
Clinical experience: interned for a geriatric counseling psychologist, implement psych interventions for kids, and serve as a grief group counselor for children, worked with special needs children.
Other: Member of psi chi
Do I have a shot at a PhD?
I take the GRE mid August and I'm planning to apply this cycle!It will be good to get your GRE scores in.. that will definitely help guide your search for schools! I think you should definitely try for PhD programs (your GPA is definitely competitive), when do you take the GRE? Are you applying this cycle?
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I take the GRE mid August and I'm planning to apply this cycle!
Thanks for this reply! We are currently developing the study, hoping to implement it in the fall, so the paper would probably not be ready on time. I would most likely be beginning it by the time the applications are due. Do you think my lack of pubs/posters will be a huge detriment to my application?That's great! Have you researched potential mentors? The GPA and GRE will get you in the door, but the fit will be the most important factor. Assuming you do well on the GRE, weaving your research experience into a narrative with future directions is your next step. It might be worthwhile to see about doing a poster for a conference (some of the deadlines are still forthcoming), if your mentor will allow and if you are able. It sounds like you've got your feet in the water with the paper, yes?
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If you look on the APA website (I think you have to make an account with them), they will tell you how much schools rank GPA, GRE, research experience, etc. If a school ranks GRE high, then you might want to reconsider. However, 3 stellar letters of recommendation could easily balance your GRE.Hi, everyone. I recently took the GRE and my unofficial scores are V: 155/Q: 155. I was wondering if that alone should stop me from applying to certain schools (UNC Chapel Hill, UAB, UT Austin, etc) even though I will have 2 years of research experience and about a 3.6 GPA.
If you look on the APA website (I think you have to make an account with them), they will tell you how much schools rank GPA, GRE, research experience, etc. If a school ranks GRE high, then you might want to reconsider. However, 3 stellar letters of recommendation could easily balance your GRE.
psycinfo.apa.org/gradstudy/link, please?
psycinfo.apa.org/gradstudy/
Any thoughts?
Thank you so much!
Thank you for the feedback! I have a letter from my thesis mentor who is also the same PhD I worked for in his lab for two years. I have a letter from the PI I have been doing the government research with and I have a letter from the director of the honors thesis program who can vouch for my research and academic abilities. Do you think those would be good recs?You're a strong candidate. Make sure you have good letters of rec that describe your strengths in detail, esp. from research supervisors. And knock that GRE out of the park.
You haven't mentioned your career goals. You might get some feedback on your program list if you share a bit about what you want to do with your PhD.
I have a few comments
1) You need to make sure you have a few relationships that are very strong for getting Letters of Rec. The only alarms I hear is that you quit on a lab because you weren't getting good results. Therefore, will these people still write you a rec? All grad programs require 3 recs in Clinical Psychology
2) I'd actually disagree with you regarding all of your premed ECS are relevant for clinical psychology. I could be totally wrong, but in premed boards and "How to get into Medical School" I always hear a lot about service oriented things, volunteer hours, social responsibility stuff. I think this is really less emphasized in clinical psychology programs. It might be a great thing to have, but I think it will contribute less to your application than if you were applying to medicine.
3) My best advice is that you get research experience. I know you said you don't like research, but if you want to get into a Ph.D. program in Clinical, they are generally always looking for research experience. I'd find a lab you can volunteer in for at least a year, maybe longer. If you start now, you can probably get some nice experiences before you apply next Fall.
4) Start to learn your field. Shadowing sounds interesting, but you can also just start to read papers in the field you want to enter, and learn who the key players are and the big concepts.
I didn't know that!! Wish I had known that when I was applying 6 years ago-- fortunately things all worked out for me but how helpful to know! I also think that in some situations for some schools, doing awesome on the psych subject GRE can help overcome a less stellar general GREIf you look on the APA website (I think you have to make an account with them), they will tell you how much schools rank GPA, GRE, research experience, etc. If a school ranks GRE high, then you might want to reconsider. However, 3 stellar letters of recommendation could easily balance your GRE.
Each time I have asked folks to write rec letters for me (grad school x 2, postdocs, internship), I have left that up tot hem but the key to making it most likely that they will tailor them is to make it AS EASY AS POSSIBLE. I provided each of my letter writers with a binder that had different pages for each program with the basic info (method of submitting, etc) but also bullet points for 1) why i'm interested in this specific program and 2) why I'm a good fit for this specific program. I've heard many folks say thsoe were v helpful in quickly tweaking the letters. Also let them know what your top 2 are. Some folks are willing to tailor a couple of letters if they know they're your top choices.Letters Of Recommendation: A Stupid Question Worth Asking: If someone is applying to five+ clinical psych programs, does that mean an applicant should ask their "recommenders" to print out five copies of the same generic letter and then sign them all, or should they each be tailored to each school individually? I don't know...tailoring each seems like a lot of work. I feel like it's asking a lot of my former professors to take the time to write ONE letter, let alone five different ones.
Despite my best efforts I remained squarely 50th percentile for math on GRE (though did v well on writing and verbal). Studied hard for the subject test and after being accepted my adviser told me that he found that helped his impression of me when looking at scores.I am trying my best to increase my GRE score, but I am really terrible in standardized testing. I am confident that I can get my verbal to at least 160, but I have been stagnant on quantitative. I am working my butt off though.
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Each time I have asked folks to write rec letters for me (grad school x 2, postdocs, internship), I have left that up tot hem but the key to making it most likely that they will tailor them is to make it AS EASY AS POSSIBLE. I provided each of my letter writers with a binder that had different pages for each program with the basic info (method of submitting, etc) but also bullet points for 1) why i'm interested in this specific program and 2) why I'm a good fit for this specific program. I've heard many folks say thsoe were v helpful in quickly tweaking the letters. Also let them know what your top 2 are. Some folks are willing to tailor a couple of letters if they know they're your top choices.
Hi everyone, I am looking into PhD programs in Clinical Psychology and Counseling Psychology. I'm nervous about getting into a program with the current GRE scores that I have, I'm wanting to know whether or not I need to take the GRE again in order to be accepted into a program. Here is my background information:
Bilingual: fluent in Spanish and English
GRE from 2012:
Verbal: 145
Quantitative: 142
Writing: 3.5
Undergrad (Major in Psychology, Minor Criminal Justice)
GPA: 3.49
Graduate (M.A. in Clinical Psychology)
GPA: 3.79
Clinical Experience: A little over a year working in a pediatric hospital providing psychosocial services to patients and their families. 90% of the population seen are Hispanic/Latino and therefore psychotherapy is conducted in Spanish, this includes clinical interviews. The other 10% are English speaking patients. The psychological problems addressed in this population are adjustment to burn injury, anxiety, depression, grief, trauma symptoms, body image concerns, itch, pain, and social skills. I also conduct research that involves implementing interventions for anxiety and pain for pediatric patients at the hospital. I did my Masters level clinical internship at this hospital and then was hired after my internship.
Clinical Practicum: I did my Masters level practicum at the community psychology clinic at our university. The client population was young adult and adults who had anxiety, depression, personality disorders, low-risk suicidality, and hoarding.
Teaching Experience: I was a graduate teacher assistant for one semester for a micro psychotherapy skills class for graduate students.
Research Experience: 1 professional conference in which I did an oral presentation, 1 poster presentation in graduate school, 3 poster presentations in undergraduate school (I received 1st place for one of the posters I presented which I was first author in)
Undergrad: 2 labs, also helped a fellow classmate with her study (data entry, administered questionnaires)
Graduate: 0 labs
Hospital: 2 case studies
1 is in the process of being published (first author), this was the oral presentation I did for a conference
The other study is being conducted and the plan is to submit it to a conference (first author)
I have great reference letters from my two clinical supervisors at the hospital (licensed psychologist and a psychiatrist), research supervisor at the hospital (visiting cognitive psychologist from UW), and graduate professor (was also my clinical supervisor for practicum).
I am going to take the NCE for my LPC and start earning my hours at the hospital I work at.
The programs I have looked into are the following:
University of Austin - PhD in Counseling or Clinical
Texas Women's University - PhD Counseling
University of Houston - PhD Counseling
University of Texas Southwestern - PhD Clinical
San Diego State University/University of California, San Diego Joint Program - PhD Clinical
Teachers College, Columbia University - PhD Clinical or Counseling
Duke University - PhD Clinical
Kent State University - PhD Clinical
University of Kansas - PhD Clinical
Any feedback would be appreciated. If there are other programs that you would recommend that would be great. I am interested in pediatric psychology, and behavioral health psychology. Thank you!
Yep, you definitely need to retake the GRE.
https://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/concordance_information.pdf
Your 145 verbal and 142 quant translate to a 380 and 470, respectively, on the old scale. that means you are in the 26th percentile for verbal and 12th percentile for quant translates.
That's just far too low for any of the funded programs, especially very selective programs like Duke.
Here is my current standing:
3.oo Undergrad GPA
Estimated GRE based on practice tests: Q - 166 V - 156
Currently no research experience. My undergrad degree is in Finance with minors in Econ and Psych.
- I could potentially find a research or work position in this area between now and my application deadlines of December 1st
How does this look for an application, potentially in cognitive or clinical PhD, or a PsyD program?
WAMC?!?!?!?