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WAMC: What Are My Chances
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I want to pursue a PhD in I/O, but for now I am searching. I am particularly interested in psychometrics, but that need not be the focus of whatever program I enter. My three letters of recommendation will be 1) from an experienced/respected Philosophy professor, which will shine, 2) from a Psych prof who I will be doing research with - I plan to do very well, and she really wants me to succeed, so let's say that one will shine too. 3) From a man of large influence in the Health Psych field in Texas (owns several well-known institutions). I worked for him directly in an internship, but that was working with people with brain-damage and is thus unrelated. I don't know whether he'll put his heart into it, but the letter will exist.
In Fall, I'll be doing research with Dr. Hxxx at my university on factors that affect high school teachers quitting or preparing to quit, as well as other things. We'll be sending in some work very soon, so publishing is possible. Also doing some experimental research with another prof. on effects of sleep pattern on memory. I am new to research.
I am double-majoring in Psychology and Philosophy at xxxxxxxxx, which is a good school in my opinion, but not as well known or reputable as others.
When sending applications, my GPA's will be:
Overall GPA: 3.25
Txstate:3.55, +/- .05
Psychology: 3.75, +/- .05
Philosophy: 3.6
I downloaded a program from ETS that has a mock computer based GRE, which I understand is the most accurate representation of the test available. I scored 160V,162Q, or ~610V, ~770Q in old-school numbers. I have only studied for a week so far, and have three months to thoroughly prepare for the real deal. I expect a 5 or 6 on analytical writing because most of my undergraduate experience was analytical writing, but let us conservatively suppose I get my present score on V and Q, and a 4.5 on analytical. Also, let's say my SOP's were...a little more interesting and thoughtful than average - I'm going to put a lot of time into them.
Am I in the running for anything, really? Anything really would be acceptable if I liked the program and if it weren't online or not respectable.
Lay it on me: WAMC?
I want to pursue a PhD in I/O, but for now I am searching. I am particularly interested in psychometrics, but that need not be the focus of whatever program I enter. My three letters of recommendation will be 1) from an experienced/respected Philosophy professor, which will shine, 2) from a Psych prof who I will be doing research with - I plan to do very well, and she really wants me to succeed, so let's say that one will shine too. 3) From a man of large influence in the Health Psych field in Texas (owns several well-known institutions). I worked for him directly in an internship, but that was working with people with brain-damage and is thus unrelated. I don't know whether he'll put his heart into it, but the letter will exist.
In Fall, I'll be doing research with Dr. Hxxx at my university on factors that affect high school teachers quitting or preparing to quit, as well as other things. We'll be sending in some work very soon, so publishing is possible. Also doing some experimental research with another prof. on effects of sleep pattern on memory. I am new to research.
I am double-majoring in Psychology and Philosophy at xxxxxxxxx, which is a good school in my opinion, but not as well known or reputable as others.
When sending applications, my GPA's will be:
Overall GPA: 3.25
Txstate:3.55, +/- .05
Psychology: 3.75, +/- .05
Philosophy: 3.6
I downloaded a program from ETS that has a mock computer based GRE, which I understand is the most accurate representation of the test available. I scored 160V,162Q, or ~610V, ~770Q in old-school numbers. I have only studied for a week so far, and have three months to thoroughly prepare for the real deal. I expect a 5 or 6 on analytical writing because most of my undergraduate experience was analytical writing, but let us conservatively suppose I get my present score on V and Q, and a 4.5 on analytical. Also, let's say my SOP's were...a little more interesting and thoughtful than average - I'm going to put a lot of time into them.
Am I in the running for anything, really? Anything really would be acceptable if I liked the program and if it weren't online or not respectable.
Lay it on me: WAMC?
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I am currently an undergrad and am not planning on pursuing at masters but I would really hope to apply for PHd programs...my gpa is high as well as my gre scores...and I also have great letters of recommendations however I do not have research experience...I have volunteer experience at an outpatient clinic and as a one-on-one with a boy with autism and an internship with an organization for children and their families who are grieving.
Are my chances still okay without specific research experience?
Are my chances still okay without specific research experience?
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Honestly, I'd say your chances at most traditional/reputable PhD programs are going to be minimal-to-nonexistent without any research experience. I'm not as "up" on med school admissions, but it'd be similar to applying to MD programs without having completed any physician shadowing or hospital volunteer work. Your best bet to increase your chances would be to find an RA spot somewhere for a year or two.
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Hello, I applied to 5 clinical programs last year after returning from China, I did it all in 3 months, so it felt very rushed...I got accepted to 1, (Palo Alto University), I did not like how much it was going to cost, so I turned down the offer and decided to try again this year for more fully funded programs.
Here are my stats:
GRE: V-157, Q-152, AW-4.5, 1220 on other scale, plan on taking it again with more studying
Psych GRE: did not take it last time, plan to do it in OCT
Ugrad GPA: 3.48
Psych Ugrad GPA: 3.52
I was a Psych Major with minor in cultural anthropology at University of Oregon.
2 years undergrad RA in cognition lab
6 month practicum (group therapy with sex offenders)
honors thesis (poster presented at SPSP national conference)
4 months studied abroad (GPA:3.25)
Summer at UW-Madison (GPA: 4.0)
Jobs
2 years working in residential for native american youth, became supervisor after 6 months
2 years living/teaching in China (at University and Private School)
*can read/write/type/speak Mandarin Chinese proficiently
Currently an in-home therapist for severely emotionally disturbed youth and families
I have 2 solid letters of rec, one from lab/thesis adviser, another from secondary thesis reader/clinical prof, my 3rd the first time around was from boss in China, I have recently got in touch with program manager from residential and trying to get a letter from her, also trying from current supervisor
I think my GPA is the real killer right now, I am hoping my other experiences can mask that...Also do you think living and teaching abroad helps or hurts me? Was I "out of the game" too long?
I am wanting to do research with youth populations: I am interested in trauma, mood, disorders, and culturally responsive interventions
*has clinical child (#) 1-5 rating skill of how competitive I think I am there, 5 being very competitive, scale is based on stats in Insider Guide to ClinPsy and CounPsy...
Clinical Programs:
1. Auburn University(3)*
2. University of British Columbia(4) hard for full funding
3. Clark University(3)*
4. University of Colorado-Boulder(2)*
5. University of Colorado Springs(4)* assistantship only
6. Depaul University(4)*
7. University of Detroit-Mercy(4)
8. Duquense University(4)
9. Georgia State University(4)
10. Idaho State University(3) mostly funded
11. Illinois Institute of Technology-Chicago(4) some funding
12. Indiana State University PsyD(4)* fully funded
13. Indiana University of Pennslyvania PsyD(4)* funded
14. Jackson State University(4)
15. Marquette University(4)*
16. University of Maryland-Baltimore County(3)*
17. University of Mass at Amherst(3)*
18. University of Memphis(3)*
19. University of Missouri-Columbia(3)*
20. University of Montana(4)*
21. Ohio University(3)*
22. Oklahoma State University(4)*
23. University of South Carolina(3)*
24. SIU-Carbondale(3)*
25. University of Southern Miss(3)*
26. St Johns University(2)*
27. Suffolk University(3)*
28. University of Toledo(3)*
29. University of Utah(4)*
30. University of Vermont(4) mostly funded
Counseling Programs:
University of Akron(4)
Arizona State University(4)
University of Denver(4) mostly funded
University of Georgia(4)
University of Houston(4)
Marquette(3)*
University of Missouri-KC(5)
University of Oregon(4)
SIU-Carbondale(4)
I want to try to get my list down to 20 schools where I will be competitive...Please let me know WAMC, thanks.
Here are my stats:
GRE: V-157, Q-152, AW-4.5, 1220 on other scale, plan on taking it again with more studying
Psych GRE: did not take it last time, plan to do it in OCT
Ugrad GPA: 3.48
Psych Ugrad GPA: 3.52
I was a Psych Major with minor in cultural anthropology at University of Oregon.
2 years undergrad RA in cognition lab
6 month practicum (group therapy with sex offenders)
honors thesis (poster presented at SPSP national conference)
4 months studied abroad (GPA:3.25)
Summer at UW-Madison (GPA: 4.0)
Jobs
2 years working in residential for native american youth, became supervisor after 6 months
2 years living/teaching in China (at University and Private School)
*can read/write/type/speak Mandarin Chinese proficiently
Currently an in-home therapist for severely emotionally disturbed youth and families
I have 2 solid letters of rec, one from lab/thesis adviser, another from secondary thesis reader/clinical prof, my 3rd the first time around was from boss in China, I have recently got in touch with program manager from residential and trying to get a letter from her, also trying from current supervisor
I think my GPA is the real killer right now, I am hoping my other experiences can mask that...Also do you think living and teaching abroad helps or hurts me? Was I "out of the game" too long?
I am wanting to do research with youth populations: I am interested in trauma, mood, disorders, and culturally responsive interventions
*has clinical child (#) 1-5 rating skill of how competitive I think I am there, 5 being very competitive, scale is based on stats in Insider Guide to ClinPsy and CounPsy...
Clinical Programs:
1. Auburn University(3)*
2. University of British Columbia(4) hard for full funding
3. Clark University(3)*
4. University of Colorado-Boulder(2)*
5. University of Colorado Springs(4)* assistantship only
6. Depaul University(4)*
7. University of Detroit-Mercy(4)
8. Duquense University(4)
9. Georgia State University(4)
10. Idaho State University(3) mostly funded
11. Illinois Institute of Technology-Chicago(4) some funding
12. Indiana State University PsyD(4)* fully funded
13. Indiana University of Pennslyvania PsyD(4)* funded
14. Jackson State University(4)
15. Marquette University(4)*
16. University of Maryland-Baltimore County(3)*
17. University of Mass at Amherst(3)*
18. University of Memphis(3)*
19. University of Missouri-Columbia(3)*
20. University of Montana(4)*
21. Ohio University(3)*
22. Oklahoma State University(4)*
23. University of South Carolina(3)*
24. SIU-Carbondale(3)*
25. University of Southern Miss(3)*
26. St Johns University(2)*
27. Suffolk University(3)*
28. University of Toledo(3)*
29. University of Utah(4)*
30. University of Vermont(4) mostly funded
Counseling Programs:
University of Akron(4)
Arizona State University(4)
University of Denver(4) mostly funded
University of Georgia(4)
University of Houston(4)
Marquette(3)*
University of Missouri-KC(5)
University of Oregon(4)
SIU-Carbondale(4)
I want to try to get my list down to 20 schools where I will be competitive...Please let me know WAMC, thanks.
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Just letting you know that if you're looking for a more fully funded program, you should take Marquette University off of your list (at least for clinical psych, not sure about their counseling psych program).
Your GPA is on the lower side, but if you're able to raise your GREs to above a 1300 and do really well on the psych GRE, you'll probably have a good chance of getting accepted at some of those schools.
.Hello,
Like so many others I am applying to several Ph.D. programs in the Fall and I'm wondering what my chances really are. Here are my stats:
Undergrad GPA: 3.61
Psychology: 3.6
Grad (MS in Psychology): 3.86
GRE
Verbal: 570
Quant: 680
Psych: 640
Research experience:..
1st author on 2 posters presented at annual convention of Western Psychological Association..
1st author on a published research article..
Empirical Master's thesis..
1st author on 1 poster submitted to APA for next year and another 2 articles submitted for peer review. .
Clinical experience:..
2 years as a counselor in a short-term residential treatment program for people with severe mental illness in crisis..
6 months in practicum clinic doing supervised therapy..
1 year of field placement doing supervised therapy. .
I'm interested in pursuing research in positive psychology, specifically the connection between positive emotional states and physical/mental health..
Like so many others I am applying to several Ph.D. programs in the Fall and I'm wondering what my chances really are. Here are my stats:
Undergrad GPA: 3.61
Psychology: 3.6
Grad (MS in Psychology): 3.86
GRE
Verbal: 570
Quant: 680
Psych: 640
Research experience:..
1st author on 2 posters presented at annual convention of Western Psychological Association..
1st author on a published research article..
Empirical Master's thesis..
1st author on 1 poster submitted to APA for next year and another 2 articles submitted for peer review. .
Clinical experience:..
2 years as a counselor in a short-term residential treatment program for people with severe mental illness in crisis..
6 months in practicum clinic doing supervised therapy..
1 year of field placement doing supervised therapy. .
I'm interested in pursuing research in positive psychology, specifically the connection between positive emotional states and physical/mental health..
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Is your research experience/publication related to your research interests?
In general, your stats look very competitive, and I imagine you'll have a good shot at programs where you have a solid research fit. Are you applying to more balanced or research-oriented programs.
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I'm also wondering if your research experience was in this area, also wondering what your actual research experience looks like (i.e., full-time, in the same lab over X years...)
You'll want to consider retaking the GRE, as well, especially if applying to research-focused programs. If the Psych GRE isn't required, I'm not sure I'd submit that score.
The first 2 posters and published article are on one topic (stigma of mental illness). From my Master's thesis on it was a different topic (positive psychology). The research I have done has all been independent under the supervision of faculty and not in a specific lab.
I'm looking at applying to more balanced programs. My scores are on par with the programs I am applying to but I'm wondering how it will look to have independent research on my record instead of working in an official lab. On one hand my research has been presented and published but on the other hand it was not done in someone's lab. I'm curious about what others think.
Thank you for your help!
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+1. If you don't have any research experience, then your chances are slim to none, wavering toward the "none" end of the spectrum, for a PhD program this upcoming cycle. If everything else looks great (e.g., GPA, GRE), I'd second the recommendation to find a research asst gig somewhere for a couple years.
Not your typical candidate here (to my detriment). I am applying to PhD in school psychology programs.
BA in history: 3.5 GPA, final two years 3.8
MEd: 3.8 GPA
GRE: V158 (570 old), Q153 (680 old), 1250 combined (old)
I should have strong letters of the recommendation.
I completed a two year service-through-teaching program similar to Teach For America, but through the University of Notre Dame (ACE).
I have four years total teaching experience in underprivileged schools (grades 5-8).
Employed for a year as a site coordinator for a tutoring program designed for low performing students at Title I schools.
I have no research experience.
My future research interests include emotional and behavioral issues of children (including LGBT when applicable), particularly fear, depression, and anxiety and their relation to academic and social functioning in schools.
My current application list:
UCONN, UVA, Indiana University, University of Houston, University of Arizona, UMASS, Nebraska
Do I have a shot at any of these programs? Or will my lack of research experience and psychology background keep me out?
BA in history: 3.5 GPA, final two years 3.8
MEd: 3.8 GPA
GRE: V158 (570 old), Q153 (680 old), 1250 combined (old)
I should have strong letters of the recommendation.
I completed a two year service-through-teaching program similar to Teach For America, but through the University of Notre Dame (ACE).
I have four years total teaching experience in underprivileged schools (grades 5-8).
Employed for a year as a site coordinator for a tutoring program designed for low performing students at Title I schools.
I have no research experience.
My future research interests include emotional and behavioral issues of children (including LGBT when applicable), particularly fear, depression, and anxiety and their relation to academic and social functioning in schools.
My current application list:
UCONN, UVA, Indiana University, University of Houston, University of Arizona, UMASS, Nebraska
Do I have a shot at any of these programs? Or will my lack of research experience and psychology background keep me out?
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My first question would be: have you completed the necessary psych pre-reqs for the schools to which you're applying? Not having a degree in psych isn't necessarily going to "ding" your application, but not having taken the needed courses will get your application disqualified before it has a chance to be further reviewed.
The lack of research experience is most likely going to hurt you, yes. I don't know as much about school psych programs, but I would imagine they like to see prior research just as much as do clinical programs. Personally, I'd say it's at least worth applying and giving it a shot, but I'd also be looking for RA-type opportunities in the area to which to apply as well in the event that you don't have any luck this go-round.
Hey yall, I realize deadlines are still a ways off, but I am beyond stressed. I'm 22 yo and will have my MS in counseling psychology from the University of Kentucky in December. I have one publication regarding eating disorders and Ajzen's Theory of Planned Behavior and presented at an APS conference in Boston.
GPA - 4.0
GRE V - 540 (I know that's pretty crappy, but I just can't seem to raise it)
GRE Q - 700
I've been working as a primary therapist at the Chrysalis House, a clinic for women with substance abuse, for my practicum. I recently became involved with a research team concerning integrated substance-informed suvivor therapy as an integrated treatment for co-occurring trauma and substance abuse.
Main research interests: eating disorders, substance abuse, and LGBT
I know I can handle a PhD program, but I am just so nervous that I'm not going to match with anyone and then not get accepted anywhere.
Does anyone have advice for where I might be a good fit? Where could I count on to be my "safety" schools? Are Canadian degrees legit in US? When a program asks about your career goals, what is the best response?
Overwhelmed :/
GPA - 4.0
GRE V - 540 (I know that's pretty crappy, but I just can't seem to raise it)
GRE Q - 700
I've been working as a primary therapist at the Chrysalis House, a clinic for women with substance abuse, for my practicum. I recently became involved with a research team concerning integrated substance-informed suvivor therapy as an integrated treatment for co-occurring trauma and substance abuse.
Main research interests: eating disorders, substance abuse, and LGBT
I know I can handle a PhD program, but I am just so nervous that I'm not going to match with anyone and then not get accepted anywhere.
Does anyone have advice for where I might be a good fit? Where could I count on to be my "safety" schools? Are Canadian degrees legit in US? When a program asks about your career goals, what is the best response?
Overwhelmed :/
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I moved your post to the WAMC thread. Given that you won't be applying for two years until you finish your masters degree (I'm assuming?), it's difficult to assess your chances now. However, the publication (what authorship?) will definitely help. 🙂 Stay involved in research and try to get more presentations and especially publications--if possible.
AcronymAllergy -- That's a good point and something I've looked at carefully while constructing my list of schools. I've emailed all the programs on the list about my lack of research/psychology background. So far, I've heard and had positive feedback from Indiana, Houston, Kansas, and Arizona. I did not, however, mention any of my numerical stats, just my educational background and lack of research experience.
What I don't know is if my GPA/GRE will be strong enough to make up for the fact that I'm not an "ideal" candidate for these programs.
What I don't know is if my GPA/GRE will be strong enough to make up for the fact that I'm not an "ideal" candidate for these programs.
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I just wanted to get an opinion or two and see what everyone thinks...
I haven't taken the GRE's yet, and my qualifications otherwise aren't bad, though I don't know how outstanding they are in comparison to the standard applicant. If I were an institution, I would want me. But I want to know, based on what I have here, what do you think my chances are, and do you think an average GRE performance would break my chances given the rest of my application?
My goal is to apply to several clinical PhD programs with a near equal balance of research and practice - particularly the ones that emphasize a psychodynamic model (so lots of NYC schools). My ultimate career goal is to lecture, write, and conduct research with as much freedom as possible (so tenure track professor?). I also want to have a part-time clinical practice at some point where I can bridge my research in therapy process/outcome, ultimately advancing certain aspects in clinical training that I can foresee.
Here are my stats:
- My overall undergraduate GPA: 3.3
- My undergraduate psych GPA: 3.5
- My graduate (master's) GPA: 4.0
- 3 research projects, all with poster or paper presentations (one of which was at a major national conference), but no publications
- 3 solid years of clinical experience in a variety of settings
- experience in using measures and summarizing data in psychological assessment
- a ton of leadership stuff under campus activities (committees, program admission decision making)
- attendance at lots of conferences and CE events, so I'm very involved in the field
- letters of rec that would suggest I can already perform at the doctoral level (1 primary researcher, 1 professor, 1 clinical supervisor)
- Research interests: psychotherapy process/outcome, gender and sexuality, scapegoating
- Disciplinary/theoretical interests: relational psychoanalysis, Hegelian philosophy, narrative therapy, acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT), existentialism.
I'm also in my late 20's, so I have some maturity and experience as well. I think I am capable of making significant contributions to the field. The curriculum at the programs I am interested in are a perfect outline of what I desire in my training, and I am smitten with the areas of interest of some of the faculty. I have only been practicing for the GRE's a couple of weeks at this point, and I am making myself nervous just thinking about whether or not my scores will need to be superior to compensate for my GPA or anything else. Thoughts?
I haven't taken the GRE's yet, and my qualifications otherwise aren't bad, though I don't know how outstanding they are in comparison to the standard applicant. If I were an institution, I would want me. But I want to know, based on what I have here, what do you think my chances are, and do you think an average GRE performance would break my chances given the rest of my application?
My goal is to apply to several clinical PhD programs with a near equal balance of research and practice - particularly the ones that emphasize a psychodynamic model (so lots of NYC schools). My ultimate career goal is to lecture, write, and conduct research with as much freedom as possible (so tenure track professor?). I also want to have a part-time clinical practice at some point where I can bridge my research in therapy process/outcome, ultimately advancing certain aspects in clinical training that I can foresee.
Here are my stats:
- My overall undergraduate GPA: 3.3
- My undergraduate psych GPA: 3.5
- My graduate (master's) GPA: 4.0
- 3 research projects, all with poster or paper presentations (one of which was at a major national conference), but no publications
- 3 solid years of clinical experience in a variety of settings
- experience in using measures and summarizing data in psychological assessment
- a ton of leadership stuff under campus activities (committees, program admission decision making)
- attendance at lots of conferences and CE events, so I'm very involved in the field
- letters of rec that would suggest I can already perform at the doctoral level (1 primary researcher, 1 professor, 1 clinical supervisor)
- Research interests: psychotherapy process/outcome, gender and sexuality, scapegoating
- Disciplinary/theoretical interests: relational psychoanalysis, Hegelian philosophy, narrative therapy, acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT), existentialism.
I'm also in my late 20's, so I have some maturity and experience as well. I think I am capable of making significant contributions to the field. The curriculum at the programs I am interested in are a perfect outline of what I desire in my training, and I am smitten with the areas of interest of some of the faculty. I have only been practicing for the GRE's a couple of weeks at this point, and I am making myself nervous just thinking about whether or not my scores will need to be superior to compensate for my GPA or anything else. Thoughts?
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Compared to other applicants, your GPA (as you seem to know) is going to be below average. However, I don't know that it's something that, in and of itself, will automatically prevent your application from being reviewed at most (i.e., other than top-tier) programs. I would say that absolutely obliterating the GRE would certainly help "compensate," though.
Everything else you've listed looks solid, so just be sure to apply to a wide variety of programs in terms of competitiveness, and take it from there. Worst-case, completing a master's to show that you can handle grad-level course work seems to be the "standard" path taken by those who have trouble securing admission due to a lower GPA. It could also get you additional research experience (which never hurts), although from what you've posted, that doesn't seem to be a weak point for you.
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I currently have a 4.0 GPA in my master's program, which I will be finishing in May. I hope that does indeed help (though I don't know how much, because of grade inflation). Certainly, a 4.0 looks better than a 3.9.
I am going to try my very best to excel on the GRE as well. I didn't start studying until a couple of weeks ago though, so I hope that gives me enough time (given that I work and am in a master's program). I am confident I can get in eventually, but I don't know if this year will be the year for me.
This whole process is so intimidating! Now I understand what so many of you have been talking about.
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Ack, sorry about that, completely missed you mentioning the master's GPA in your OP. A 4.0 should definitely help; the way I see it, what more could you reasonably be expected to do grade-wise?
As for the GRE, try not to stress yourself out too terribly. It's important, but it's not the ONLY part of your application. I studied for somewhere between 2-3 months myself, averaging 2-3 hours/day, 4-5 days/week (I was actually working in a research lab at the time, and would study between participants or when I had some downtime between classes).
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Sounds similar to my study habits so far. Hope I can get a good score. Thanks for sharing!
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I don't know what others will say, but I think you look very competitive and should apply to any school you're interested in. It's always safe and best to apply to a 'range' of schools, and I am confident you will be accepted by at least 1 program. Good luck!
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Yes.
Your stats are great, but because "fit" can vary, limiting yourself to ONLY top-tier places AND <10 is a tough combo. Do you want to be purely a researcher? If so...then your choices look good, if you want to be a clinician, then you may want to consider adding some other programs because I know most of those places are very research heavy.
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University of Miami also has a Health Psych Program.
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You look good to go to me! 👍
I'd be surprised if you didn't land interviews with your stats and overall package. Make sure your personal statement is polished. And, then, as you obviously know (and stated), the rest is up to fit (and that ever elusive "match" with a stroke of good luck to some extent).
G'luck!
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Hi there!
I posted a while back (maybe a year ago?) but wanted to see if I could get a response this time, heh. Much thanks in advance- applying for clinical psych PhD programs this fall (graduated from university in May).
Stats:
GPA: overall 3.834 (graduated with high distinction from a top tier public school in the US; roughly equal to magna cum laude (top 10%) and received honors in the psychology major)
GRE: 670V (93%), 740Q (74%), 5.5AWA (96%). Total: 1410
Deans Honor List Spring 2010, Fall 2011, Spring 2012 (top 4%)
Member of Phi Beta Kappa, Psi Chi
Research Experience:
-Wrote an honor's thesis (literature review) on the use of computer-assisted CBT and bibliotherapy for children and adolescents with anxiety disorders- received honors for my thesis and may be submitting it to a journal to see what happens
-Roughly 4/5 semesters as a research assistant in a clinical/ cultural lab. Conducted interviews with children as well as everyday lab tasks
-Roughly 2/3 semesters as an RA at another lab working with infants
-2 summers as a paid RA in a major children's hospital. Worked on literature reviews, created a poster for a prospective project, helped out with data analysis/ writing of another paper. Will have my name on a paper, publication pending
-Secured a project coordinator position during 2012-2013 at my university of choice; will be working on an independent research project under this professor and hopefully be able to present at a conference (I will be applying to this professor's lab in December and will be asking for a letter of rec... I know it won't be much time for her to get to know me but hopefully it will be okay..)
Basically, I'm worried that my stats are not strong enough (especially GREs.. Found out the mean/median for my top choice school (94%, 97% respectively for verbal and 84%, 85% respectively for quantitative)..
I also found out that one school I will be applying to requires the Psych GRE and there are no seats left in my area for October.. arghhh..
I'm also worried about my letters of rec. I have one from a professor whose lab I worked in for 2.5years but it's not a particularly strong one.. I have asked my honor's thesis supervisor to write me one and she agreed. The only problem is that I only worked with her for the last 2 months of senior year due to problems with my previous thesis advisor/ and having a need to switch.. then for the last one, I've banked on this new professor for my job I will be starting next week- is that too little time for a professor to get to know me/ write me a letter?
Thanks for any and all feedback, I would very much appreciate it..!! 😀
I posted a while back (maybe a year ago?) but wanted to see if I could get a response this time, heh. Much thanks in advance- applying for clinical psych PhD programs this fall (graduated from university in May).
Stats:
GPA: overall 3.834 (graduated with high distinction from a top tier public school in the US; roughly equal to magna cum laude (top 10%) and received honors in the psychology major)
GRE: 670V (93%), 740Q (74%), 5.5AWA (96%). Total: 1410
Deans Honor List Spring 2010, Fall 2011, Spring 2012 (top 4%)
Member of Phi Beta Kappa, Psi Chi
Research Experience:
-Wrote an honor's thesis (literature review) on the use of computer-assisted CBT and bibliotherapy for children and adolescents with anxiety disorders- received honors for my thesis and may be submitting it to a journal to see what happens
-Roughly 4/5 semesters as a research assistant in a clinical/ cultural lab. Conducted interviews with children as well as everyday lab tasks
-Roughly 2/3 semesters as an RA at another lab working with infants
-2 summers as a paid RA in a major children's hospital. Worked on literature reviews, created a poster for a prospective project, helped out with data analysis/ writing of another paper. Will have my name on a paper, publication pending
-Secured a project coordinator position during 2012-2013 at my university of choice; will be working on an independent research project under this professor and hopefully be able to present at a conference (I will be applying to this professor's lab in December and will be asking for a letter of rec... I know it won't be much time for her to get to know me but hopefully it will be okay..)
Basically, I'm worried that my stats are not strong enough (especially GREs.. Found out the mean/median for my top choice school (94%, 97% respectively for verbal and 84%, 85% respectively for quantitative)..
I also found out that one school I will be applying to requires the Psych GRE and there are no seats left in my area for October.. arghhh..
I'm also worried about my letters of rec. I have one from a professor whose lab I worked in for 2.5years but it's not a particularly strong one.. I have asked my honor's thesis supervisor to write me one and she agreed. The only problem is that I only worked with her for the last 2 months of senior year due to problems with my previous thesis advisor/ and having a need to switch.. then for the last one, I've banked on this new professor for my job I will be starting next week- is that too little time for a professor to get to know me/ write me a letter?
Thanks for any and all feedback, I would very much appreciate it..!! 😀
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Your stats themselves seem solid to me. While the 1410 might not necessarily be at the mean/median of some top-tier programs, assuming you apply to a wide variety of schools in terms of competitiveness, I'd be surprised if you didn't get at least a few interview offers (assuming you fit well with research/clinical interests, of course).
Regarding the letters, is there any particular reason the first (from your research supervisor of 2.5 years) isn't strong? Were there particular difficulties during your time there to the point that they'd be worth addressing in your personal statement? As for the final letter, some professors will feel comfortable writing a letter with limited interaction with you, and others won't. Your best bet is just to ask and see what he/she says.
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No difficulties- it's more a case of being a part of a giant lab (30+ undergraduate research assistants), and her being.. absent (even her graduate students say so..). The problem with this professor is that she asked me to sign up for a letter service so that she does not have to deal with sending out letters of rec herself.. which is fine, EXCEPT all of the programs I'm applying for seem to require an original signature or for her to send in a copy of the letter via email (from her personal email address), or require an additional assessment report. How do I get a professor who has pretty much let her hands go in terms of the letter to help me out..? Any suggestions? 🙁
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Hi Everyone, long time reader and excited to start this process
I will be applying in the fall to clinical phd programs in the fall
Graduating December 2012 (3.5) years strong liberal arts college
GPA 3.71/4.00 Psych GPA 3.75/4.00
GRE V159 (590) Q 153 (680) 1270 Combined
Research Experience:
4 semesters in an emotion regulation and clinical outcomes lab
2 semesters working on assessment creation (trying to learn the best way to make surveys essentially)
Summer research assistant at a VA research facility that does both research and full clinical evaluations
All 3 of the above PI's will be writing my recommendations so I should have strong letters.
At the time of my application I should have 2 first author posters and two papers sent out for review (2nd and 3rd authorship). All of these are in my field of research behavioral medicine with a focus on resilience factors and how they blend with anxiety.
Clinical Experience
Summer working for a hospice spending time with many different illnesses (mental and physical)
Shadowed 3 hour assessment during my time at the VA
My Current school list includes:
Columbia-Teachers College
Rutgers (PhD)
Drexel
Hofstra
University of Rhode Island
UConn
Uniformed Services University (Civilian track)
Fairleigh Dickinson
Fordham
VCU
George Mason
UMass Boston
Catholic
American
I am a bit concerned with my GRE scores because some have told me that 1300 is the cutoff for many schools, although im not completely sure. Also with the new GRE im wondering if schools may be using them differently because they lack the normative data? That's more conjecture though.
So just wondering, What Are My Chances
I will be applying in the fall to clinical phd programs in the fall
Graduating December 2012 (3.5) years strong liberal arts college
GPA 3.71/4.00 Psych GPA 3.75/4.00
GRE V159 (590) Q 153 (680) 1270 Combined
Research Experience:
4 semesters in an emotion regulation and clinical outcomes lab
2 semesters working on assessment creation (trying to learn the best way to make surveys essentially)
Summer research assistant at a VA research facility that does both research and full clinical evaluations
All 3 of the above PI's will be writing my recommendations so I should have strong letters.
At the time of my application I should have 2 first author posters and two papers sent out for review (2nd and 3rd authorship). All of these are in my field of research behavioral medicine with a focus on resilience factors and how they blend with anxiety.
Clinical Experience
Summer working for a hospice spending time with many different illnesses (mental and physical)
Shadowed 3 hour assessment during my time at the VA
My Current school list includes:
Columbia-Teachers College
Rutgers (PhD)
Drexel
Hofstra
University of Rhode Island
UConn
Uniformed Services University (Civilian track)
Fairleigh Dickinson
Fordham
VCU
George Mason
UMass Boston
Catholic
American
I am a bit concerned with my GRE scores because some have told me that 1300 is the cutoff for many schools, although im not completely sure. Also with the new GRE im wondering if schools may be using them differently because they lack the normative data? That's more conjecture though.
So just wondering, What Are My Chances
Hello and thank you for having this forum its been a great help just reading through everyone's questions has answered some of my own.
I appreciate any help and advice you can offer.
I am a psychology major still working on my undergrad. I plan on getting my PhD after this but my overall GPA is a low 3.2 with my psych GPA currently at a 3.3
I haven't taken the GRE yet but based on my pratices I believe I can get somewhere close to a 1200.
Im starting an research internship now but I will probably only be there for a year until I graduate. Then I plan on joining to peace corp for a year and then applying to a PhD program.
I have been working in a hospital for 3 years it will be 4 by the time I apply. I am a nurse aid in a cancer floor with some experience in the mental health floor.
My interests are more geared towards conseling than research but I also enjoy research and would prefer a PhD over a PsyD
I've been looking at the admission websites on some of the programs I wanted to get into and I feel very discouraged at my chances of getting in. Do you think I should just not waste my time and look for a more realistic goal that doesn't include a PhD, or am I a good candidate for a PsyD?
Thank you again for your time and advice
I appreciate any help and advice you can offer.
I am a psychology major still working on my undergrad. I plan on getting my PhD after this but my overall GPA is a low 3.2 with my psych GPA currently at a 3.3
I haven't taken the GRE yet but based on my pratices I believe I can get somewhere close to a 1200.
Im starting an research internship now but I will probably only be there for a year until I graduate. Then I plan on joining to peace corp for a year and then applying to a PhD program.
I have been working in a hospital for 3 years it will be 4 by the time I apply. I am a nurse aid in a cancer floor with some experience in the mental health floor.
My interests are more geared towards conseling than research but I also enjoy research and would prefer a PhD over a PsyD
I've been looking at the admission websites on some of the programs I wanted to get into and I feel very discouraged at my chances of getting in. Do you think I should just not waste my time and look for a more realistic goal that doesn't include a PhD, or am I a good candidate for a PsyD?
Thank you again for your time and advice
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Undergrad GPA: 3.4
Last two semesters: 3.93
Master's Degree MA: 4.0
GRE: Quantitative 690
Verbal 640
Analytical 5.0
Research: Primary author on one poster at national conference
Third author on a poster at national conference (and requested for presentation)
*Three ongoing projects which will lead to papers and posters
Clinical Experience: Rotation experience in community mental health, hospitals, and an assessment rotation.
What are my chances and what should I work on before applying this fall?
Last two semesters: 3.93
Master's Degree MA: 4.0
GRE: Quantitative 690
Verbal 640
Analytical 5.0
Research: Primary author on one poster at national conference
Third author on a poster at national conference (and requested for presentation)
*Three ongoing projects which will lead to papers and posters
Clinical Experience: Rotation experience in community mental health, hospitals, and an assessment rotation.
What are my chances and what should I work on before applying this fall?
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Hi All,
I'm wondering what my chances are?
GPA: 3.135
Psych GPA: 3.55
GRE:
V: 450
Q: 670
I've worked in 2 research labs, one for a summer, the other for 2 years. I have been working at an interdisciplinary research center for 4.5 years (intern than FT job).
i've been able to present 3 posters (2 regional and only for undergrads, 1 midwestern and open to graduate students) and 3 papers (1 regional in the midwest, and 2 national) in that time (all co-authored), and have been co-authored on 4 research/technical reports.
I'm wondering what my chances are?
GPA: 3.135
Psych GPA: 3.55
GRE:
V: 450
Q: 670
I've worked in 2 research labs, one for a summer, the other for 2 years. I have been working at an interdisciplinary research center for 4.5 years (intern than FT job).
i've been able to present 3 posters (2 regional and only for undergrads, 1 midwestern and open to graduate students) and 3 papers (1 regional in the midwest, and 2 national) in that time (all co-authored), and have been co-authored on 4 research/technical reports.
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What kind of program are you looking for? Your GPA/GRE will land you below the numerical cutoffs at most mid to upper tier Ph.D. programs.
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I would theoretically like to apply to Community-Clinical Ph.D. programs. There is only a handful in the country, but potential schools might include Wayne State University in St. Louis and Depaul University in Chicago.
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Your undergrad GPA is on the low end but you have an great upward trend and an awesome grad GPA. Is your master's psych related? Did you work on research projects in your area/collect your own data, etc?
You have a pretty good GRE. That really shouldn't hold you back. Super competitive programs might want to see a little higher quant score but that's not worth retaking the exam.
Clinical experience is always a bonus. Competitive clinical phd programs are usually more interested in applicants who demonstrate strong research skills and productivity. It all depends on what you want to do.
There are a few things to think about:
What kind of grad program are you looking for? Clinical? Community? Counseling? phd? psyd?
What do you want to do with your degree? Practice? Research? Teach? A combination?
Do you have an established research interest? It looks like you're working on multiple projects, which is great. Try to submit some papers before you send your apps in and you'll definitely stand out.
You have a pretty good GRE. That really shouldn't hold you back. Super competitive programs might want to see a little higher quant score but that's not worth retaking the exam.
Clinical experience is always a bonus. Competitive clinical phd programs are usually more interested in applicants who demonstrate strong research skills and productivity. It all depends on what you want to do.
There are a few things to think about:
What kind of grad program are you looking for? Clinical? Community? Counseling? phd? psyd?
What do you want to do with your degree? Practice? Research? Teach? A combination?
Do you have an established research interest? It looks like you're working on multiple projects, which is great. Try to submit some papers before you send your apps in and you'll definitely stand out.
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Thanks for the input. I am interested in a clinical program with a focus on neuropsychology. I hope to work in a clinical setting in the future and I would like to consider teaching on the side. I do have an established research interest, and it has become more focused over the past few years; however, I do hope to broaden my research as I proceed in school. Does anyone have suggestions in terms of schools to consider given my stats? I do realize my low undergrad GPA will be a factor but I am hoping the schools consider these were pre-med courses though I am rather certain large schools will strictly go by the numbers.
Hi, I'm looking at applying to various Ph.D. programs in psychology. Most of the programs I'm looking at are on the neuro-end of the psych spectrum (Brain, Behavior, Cognition; Cognition and Perception; Cognitive Neuroscience; etc.).
I think my main concern is that these are small, competitive programs, and I haven't had an area of intent focus throughout my college/post-college work. In college I studied (and was published) in neuroscience/endocrinology research in stress, and I've spent the past 2 years working in clinical psychology research in substance abuse treatment.
Right now, here are my stats:
BA in Behavioral Neuroscience from an ivy league university
College GPA 3.54
Study abroad in Child Development for 1 semester, GPA 3.85
GREs (which I plan to re-take)
V: 162
Q: 157
A: 5.5
Research experience:
3 years of undergrad research; a Hughes Scholarship and presentation; a thesis presentation and paper; 2 publications (one is first author); 2 years of clinical research experience
School's I'm thinking of applying to:
NYU
Columbia
Stony Brook
Boston University
Boston College
Brandeis
Harvard
Northeastern
University of New Hampshire
UConn
Any other suggestions of schools would also be very appreciated! I'm looking to stay in the New England/Tri-State area.
Any feedback at all would be great. Thanks so much!
I think my main concern is that these are small, competitive programs, and I haven't had an area of intent focus throughout my college/post-college work. In college I studied (and was published) in neuroscience/endocrinology research in stress, and I've spent the past 2 years working in clinical psychology research in substance abuse treatment.
Right now, here are my stats:
BA in Behavioral Neuroscience from an ivy league university
College GPA 3.54
Study abroad in Child Development for 1 semester, GPA 3.85
GREs (which I plan to re-take)
V: 162
Q: 157
A: 5.5
Research experience:
3 years of undergrad research; a Hughes Scholarship and presentation; a thesis presentation and paper; 2 publications (one is first author); 2 years of clinical research experience
School's I'm thinking of applying to:
NYU
Columbia
Stony Brook
Boston University
Boston College
Brandeis
Harvard
Northeastern
University of New Hampshire
UConn
Any other suggestions of schools would also be very appreciated! I'm looking to stay in the New England/Tri-State area.
Any feedback at all would be great. Thanks so much!
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I think you have a shot at getting interviews at some of these schools. I am familiar with a number of them, and depending on the POI, some tend to prefer you have full-time RA experience before applying. Your GRE looks ok for most of these programs, though a few might want it a little higher before looking. Is there any way to retake the GRE at this point and try to break (the old) 1300 barrier? Either way, I think it's worth a go. Good luck!
My GRE Scores: Verbal 430, Quant 510, Analy 4.5
UG GPA 3.016
G GPA (half-way thru MS, would like to pull out) 3.92
Gen BIO: B+
Gen CHEM: C,B
CALC I: C
Gen PHYS I: C
English: C,C,B
Res Meth: B
Adv Res Meth: B+,A-
STATs: A
STATs Res Design: B
Psychopathology: A
Psy GPA: A
Feedback?
UG GPA 3.016
G GPA (half-way thru MS, would like to pull out) 3.92
Gen BIO: B+
Gen CHEM: C,B
CALC I: C
Gen PHYS I: C
English: C,C,B
Res Meth: B
Adv Res Meth: B+,A-
STATs: A
STATs Res Design: B
Psychopathology: A
Psy GPA: A
Feedback?
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Agreed. OP, you may also want to add a bit more information (i.e., what kinds of programs are you applying to? what are your goals?)