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I posted this in the master's level forum, and was told I may want to direct my original post so, here it is:

Hey gang,

I recently graduated from University of North Texas with my B.A. in sociology and a minor in psychology. My overall uGPA is a 3.3, my major GPA is a 3.8 and my minor GPA was a 3.77. In my minor, I took general, developmental, abnormal, personality, history and systems, and social psychology (in sociology department). I also have a general statistics class and a sociology statistics class as well as a research/ design class in my sociology major.

I am wanting to go into clinical or counseling psychology...I just want to get some feedback on my background so far. I am procrastinating on taking the GRE at the moment.

P.S- I do not have any real formal research experience, which I know master's programs are great to get into for that reason especially.
 
I posted this in the master's level forum, and was told I may want to direct my original post so, here it is:

Hey gang,

I recently graduated from University of North Texas with my B.A. in sociology and a minor in psychology. My overall uGPA is a 3.3, my major GPA is a 3.8 and my minor GPA was a 3.77. In my minor, I took general, developmental, abnormal, personality, history and systems, and social psychology (in sociology department). I also have a general statistics class and a sociology statistics class as well as a research/ design class in my sociology major.

I am wanting to go into clinical or counseling psychology...I just want to get some feedback on my background so far. I am procrastinating on taking the GRE at the moment.

P.S- I do not have any real formal research experience, which I know master's programs are great to get into for that reason especially.

Moved to the WAMC thread.
 
Hello,

I plan to apply to several counseling psych. PhD programs this fall. I applied a few years ago, and got several interviews but no acceptances. Since then, I have enrolled in and nearly completed an MS in mental health counseling. I'm curious about where I stand in terms of the numbers. Anything I should improve?

Undergraduate GPA: 3.76 (Psych)

Graduate GPA (So far): 4.0 (Mental Health Counseling)

GRE V: 670
GRE Q: 610
GRE Analytical Writing 6.0

4 publications (1 first author, 1 second author, 2 third author), 1 about to be submitted to a journal
5 professional conference presentations (3 of them at APA)
2 undergrad. conference presentations

Research experience: 2 years as undergraduate lab member, 1 year as volunteer RA, 1 year as paid part-time RA doing psychological research at a medical facility

Clinical Experience: 600 hour supervised mental health counseling internship

Teaching experience: Stats/research methods tutor for two semesters during undergrad, Teaching assistant for one undergrad course

Thanks in advance for any input!
 
Confused about this year's lack of nterviews to phd programs...thinking my GREs didnt even let me get in the door?

Graduated from Purdue BA in psych with a 2.9 LOW yes but..
Graduate with my Masters 3.9 from great school, this may in clinical psychology, with clinical internships
tons of realted job experience working while in school in comunity mental helath centers, Psychairtric residental treatment facilities
Lots of research experience starting in undergrand and present
Match well research wise
great letters of rec
publications in prep

Old gre scores from 09 estimated on current system with 149, 143, 4

did my gres kills even being considered? IS next year as simple as retaking and boosting gres scores and getting published?

clinical programs:
uni of oregon- nothing yet
purdue- nothing yet
missouri-columbia- nothing yet
washington stlouis- reject
Idaho state-reject

It could be your GREs, it could be your undergrad GPA. There's really no way to know, but I would recommend applying to more programs next time around. Five isn't nearly enough (just in terms of statistically increasing your chances of getting an interview), and most/all of the programs you listed and pretty competitive. So, my best advice is to a)retake the GRE and b)apply to more programs with a wider range of competitiveness.
 
Thank you SO much for taking the time to respond, I will deff be retaking and widening my search. I focused mainly on research interest instead of competitiveness and did not realize that "masters grade inflation" was even a concept to be aware of since my program was so difficult and competitive....relied too heavily on my graduate work 🙁

I think it's great to focus on research match--that's what you should be doing! But applying to more balanced programs in addition to competitive programs will likely increase your chances of getting an interview. Also, it never hurts to get more research experience--most top-tier programs look for extensive research experience (usually at least a year or two of full-time RA work post-undergrad), so that's another route you can pursue 🙂
 
Hey guys,

Could someone send me a short list of clinical psychology PhD programs that are easy to get into? Thanks.
 
Um, you're talking about PhD programs...if they're easy to get into then they're probably not worth going to.
 
Hey guys,

Could someone send me a short list of clinical psychology PhD programs that are easy to get into? Thanks.

I think the point is there isn't a single quality Clinical Psychology PhD program that is easy to get in to. Also, you're asking the wrong question, because it's really about your research interests and your past experiences that would self select the PhD programs for you.
 
I think the point is there isn't a single quality Clinical Psychology PhD program that is easy to get in to. Also, you're asking the wrong question, because it's really about your research interests and your past experiences that would self select the PhD programs for you.

👍
 
Hey guys, posting this here because the MSW boards seem a bit less lively than this. I am an undergrad that applied to Clinical Psych Ph.D. programs this fall- I received interview invites for five of them. I know these are excellent rates for an undergraduate, especially because I have a TERRIBLE GRE score for Clinical Psych (in the 1200s).

Here is my dilemma- the more I interview for these programs, and come to TRULY understand what it means to obtain a Ph.D., the sicker (like literally, physically) I become. I will have to relocate for the Ph.D., relocate for internship, relocate for post-doc, relocate for tenure-track. On top of that, I fear the the publish or perish mentality. In undergrad, I thought this was all I wanted, but now I am becoming increasingly concerned that academia may not be for me, even though it is what I have been preparing myself for since I was 19. I think it's good that I figure this out now, rather than when I'm knee-deep in a program, but it's still a very odd and stressful feeling to have to reevaluate your goals, your self-concept, etc...

Anyway... to the WAMC!

I am interested in UCLA's MSW program for a number of reasons; when I first became a psychology major, before I found research, this was my goal. I left this goal when learning about my passion for research, but that passion is quickly dwindling the further entrenched I become. I am primarily interested because I interact with several graduates of this program who are LCSW's on a clinical trial I am on, and they seem incredibly competent and have both job AND life satisfaction. I am wondering if I wil be a "shoe in" for this program, or at least very competitive, based on my stats and provided I can write a compelling statement. My stats are below:


Undergrad Institution: Lower tier CSU

Undergrad GPA: 3.9 (also have taken many "hard" science classes due to my minor)

Research Experience: Have researched in four labs- two at UCLA, two at my institution. Have 19 oral/poster presentations, and not just at local conferences- APA, APS, etc. Nothing discipline specific like ABCT though. One publication where I am second author. Two years of independent research in a cognitive psychology lab, where I've carried out my senior thesis which has now won three awards and is in preparation for publishing. Two labs were clinical- both child psych, as that is what I hope to pursue. One I have been in for one year, and I am there 15-20 hours per week. I am an integral part of the clinical trial and attend trainings in therapy, attend therapy, work one-on-one with the PI and study organizers to figure out management systems for data and things like that. In my first lab, I worked on government funded research, and worked directly with minority subjects on topics that would explain minority health disparities.

Clinical Experience: For two years, volunteered with ASD teens role-playing positive behavior and using ABA to promote positive social interaction. Can also spin my two clinical research labs as clinical experience, as I have a ton of patient interaction. Volunteered at a DMH state psych hospital for six months in the penal compound. Also, I know for MSW programs they are interested in community servi

Community Service/Leadership: Have volunteered with low-income, minority teens for one year as an emotional mentor and tutor. Not related to humans, but shows my devotion to community service- have been a volunteer at the pound since 2009, and have fostered animals within that capacity as well. Attended American Foundation for Suicide Prevention Out of the Darkness walk, attended National Society for Brain Tumor's LA Walk. Tons of honors societies, tons of clubs. Held officer position in one honor society, held officer position in one club. Volunteered on committee to promote a research event on campus.


Teaching Experience: Have TAed for five courses on my campus- have probably accumulated 30 hours in lecturing over that time. In two of the classes, I ended up briefly being the sole instructor (yes, as an undergrad, as I stated this was very brief... it's very complicated and is not the fault of the school, but the professor slotted to teach the course), and created the syllabus, the research paper instructions/grading rubric, exams, led class, etc.

GRE Score: ABYSMAL! Verbal is 90th percentile, Analytical is 96th percentile, Quant is 30th percentile. I intend on spending every penny from my stipend (I am in a funding program for non-traditional, underrepresented students) on a private tutor to bring up my score.

Ultimate goal, if I were to be accepted: Complete my thesis on adolescent suicide and non-suicidal self-injury (this is my number one passion and I have worked with this population for one year), and work as an LCSW in a hospital or research setting in the Los Angeles area. Should I decide I miss research, and I know it will be more difficult as I will then be a non-traditional student, I know I can always apply to Ph.D. programs later.

Thank you so much for reading, and for all your support. I wuvs this board <3
 
What?? C'mon there've gotta be a few. That's crazy.

There's a ton that are easy- none decent, all expensive. The Alliants, the Argosys. If a school has an incoming class of over 50 and has a match rate between 1-40%, they're probably pretty easy to get into.

As people have stated, no clinical psych program is easy to get into. None. Everyone wants this degree, making the less desirable schools now even more competitive.
 
Hey guys, posting this here because the MSW boards seem a bit less lively than this. I am an undergrad that applied to Clinical Psych Ph.D. programs this fall- I received interview invites for five of them. I know these are excellent rates for an undergraduate, especially because I have a TERRIBLE GRE score for Clinical Psych (in the 1200s).

Here is my dilemma- the more I interview for these programs, and come to TRULY understand what it means to obtain a Ph.D., the sicker (like literally, physically) I become. I will have to relocate for the Ph.D., relocate for internship, relocate for post-doc, relocate for tenure-track. On top of that, I fear the the publish or perish mentality. In undergrad, I thought this was all I wanted, but now I am becoming increasingly concerned that academia may not be for me, even though it is what I have been preparing myself for since I was 19. I think it's good that I figure this out now, rather than when I'm knee-deep in a program, but it's still a very odd and stressful feeling to have to reevaluate your goals, your self-concept, etc...

Anyway... to the WAMC!

I am interested in UCLA's MSW program for a number of reasons; when I first became a psychology major, before I found research, this was my goal. I left this goal when learning about my passion for research, but that passion is quickly dwindling the further entrenched I become. I am primarily interested because I interact with several graduates of this program who are LCSW's on a clinical trial I am on, and they seem incredibly competent and have both job AND life satisfaction. I am wondering if I wil be a "shoe in" for this program, or at least very competitive, based on my stats and provided I can write a compelling statement. My stats are below:


Undergrad Institution: Lower tier CSU

Undergrad GPA: 3.9 (also have taken many "hard" science classes due to my minor)

Research Experience: Have researched in four labs- two at UCLA, two at my institution. Have 19 oral/poster presentations, and not just at local conferences- APA, APS, etc. Nothing discipline specific like ABCT though. One publication where I am second author. Two years of independent research in a cognitive psychology lab, where I've carried out my senior thesis which has now won three awards and is in preparation for publishing. Two labs were clinical- both child psych, as that is what I hope to pursue. One I have been in for one year, and I am there 15-20 hours per week. I am an integral part of the clinical trial and attend trainings in therapy, attend therapy, work one-on-one with the PI and study organizers to figure out management systems for data and things like that. In my first lab, I worked on government funded research, and worked directly with minority subjects on topics that would explain minority health disparities.

Clinical Experience: For two years, volunteered with ASD teens role-playing positive behavior and using ABA to promote positive social interaction. Can also spin my two clinical research labs as clinical experience, as I have a ton of patient interaction. Volunteered at a DMH state psych hospital for six months in the penal compound. Also, I know for MSW programs they are interested in community servi

Community Service/Leadership: Have volunteered with low-income, minority teens for one year as an emotional mentor and tutor. Not related to humans, but shows my devotion to community service- have been a volunteer at the pound since 2009, and have fostered animals within that capacity as well. Attended American Foundation for Suicide Prevention Out of the Darkness walk, attended National Society for Brain Tumor's LA Walk. Tons of honors societies, tons of clubs. Held officer position in one honor society, held officer position in one club. Volunteered on committee to promote a research event on campus.


Teaching Experience: Have TAed for five courses on my campus- have probably accumulated 30 hours in lecturing over that time. In two of the classes, I ended up briefly being the sole instructor (yes, as an undergrad, as I stated this was very brief... it's very complicated and is not the fault of the school, but the professor slotted to teach the course), and created the syllabus, the research paper instructions/grading rubric, exams, led class, etc.

GRE Score: ABYSMAL! Verbal is 90th percentile, Analytical is 96th percentile, Quant is 30th percentile. I intend on spending every penny from my stipend (I am in a funding program for non-traditional, underrepresented students) on a private tutor to bring up my score.

Ultimate goal, if I were to be accepted: Complete my thesis on adolescent suicide and non-suicidal self-injury (this is my number one passion and I have worked with this population for one year), and work as an LCSW in a hospital or research setting in the Los Angeles area. Should I decide I miss research, and I know it will be more difficult as I will then be a non-traditional student, I know I can always apply to Ph.D. programs later.

Thank you so much for reading, and for all your support. I wuvs this board <3

I don't want to completely generalize across two different programs/training models but I feel you'll be competitive for msw programs if you're competitive for clinical psych PhD programs.
 
Hi everyone, new to the forum!

I'll be graduating spring of 2014 and I'm interested in PhD programs for clincal psych, especially with forensic focus.
I'll be graduating with a BA in psychology and a minor in CJ, also in the honors program

Top schools I'm interested in:
University of Alabama (Tuscaloosa)
West Virginia University
University of Arizona
Texas A&M
Sam Houston State University

Unfortunately, schools that have forensic intrerest are few and far between.
I'm also looking the following for regular clinical psychology
UNC (Chapel Hill)
University of Virginia
East Carolina University
Marshall University
UNLV

Currently a "junior"
Cum. GPA: 3.93
Psych GPA: 4.33 (weighted)

My transcripts when applying will only have 5 psych classes on them - I'm taking 3 during fall 2013.

GRE:
I'm taking it over the summer - but I rushed through a practice test the other day (5-10 mins max per section)
148 V
151 Q
I'm not sure what the equivalent scores were on the previous scaling system 😕

Research experience:
Currently a volunteer RA in a personality and psychopathy lab 6+ hours a week (since January)
hopefully to be involved in a prison data collection study over the summer

I graduated high school in May 2012 - with many dual enrollment credits from high school, I'll be graduating after only five semesters.

Will graduating early damage my chances since I won't have the years of research experience seen on other applications?

Also, any other words of wisdom?
 
Hi everyone, new to the forum!

I'll be graduating spring of 2014 and I'm interested in PhD programs for clincal psych, especially with forensic focus.
I'll be graduating with a BA in psychology and a minor in CJ, also in the honors program

Top schools I'm interested in:
University of Alabama (Tuscaloosa)
West Virginia University
University of Arizona
Texas A&M
Sam Houston State University

Unfortunately, schools that have forensic intrerest are few and far between.
I'm also looking the following for regular clinical psychology
UNC (Chapel Hill)
University of Virginia
East Carolina University
Marshall University
UNLV

Currently a "junior"
Cum. GPA: 3.93
Psych GPA: 4.33 (weighted)

My transcripts when applying will only have 5 psych classes on them - I'm taking 3 during fall 2013.

GRE:
I'm taking it over the summer - but I rushed through a practice test the other day (5-10 mins max per section)
148 V
151 Q
I'm not sure what the equivalent scores were on the previous scaling system 😕

Research experience:
Currently a volunteer RA in a personality and psychopathy lab 6+ hours a week (since January)
hopefully to be involved in a prison data collection study over the summer

I graduated high school in May 2012 - with many dual enrollment credits from high school, I'll be graduating after only five semesters.

Will graduating early damage my chances since I won't have the years of research experience seen on other applications?

Also, any other words of wisdom?

Honestly, I think graduating early may harm your chances a bit, considering that you are competing with people who have 1-2 years of post-bac experience (so four years of college + 1-2 years of pure research). I think in the less competitive programs it won't be an issue. There's also a concordance table to let you know what your GRE scores scale to:

http://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/concordance_information.pdf

148 V = 420
151 Q = 650

Schools may say they have no cut-off, but I have heard it's in the 1000-1250 range. With my 1240, I was rejected by many schools, and my POIs personally e-mailed me (we had good relationships) to let me know it was due to a low quant score and lack of post-bac experience. I was competing with research coordinators from top universities and medical schools. My goal was to then become a research coordinator at a top school- I scored an interview at Columbia Psychiatry but had to turn it down for medical issues. If you can take on the responsibility, try getting a paid job as a coordinator after you volunteer a bit.

It sounds like you're getting excellent research experience exactly in the field you would like to be in, so just give it more time. Also, don't just let the time pass- the want to see production in it. Present what you are finding in these labs at conferences, try to get on a pub, and really work on raising your GRE score to get your foot in the door.

Best of luck!
 
Hi everyone, new to the forum!

I'll be graduating spring of 2014 and I'm interested in PhD programs for clincal psych, especially with forensic focus.
I'll be graduating with a BA in psychology and a minor in CJ, also in the honors program

Top schools I'm interested in:
University of Alabama (Tuscaloosa)
West Virginia University
University of Arizona
Texas A&M
Sam Houston State University

Unfortunately, schools that have forensic intrerest are few and far between.
I'm also looking the following for regular clinical psychology
UNC (Chapel Hill)
University of Virginia
East Carolina University
Marshall University
UNLV

Currently a "junior"
Cum. GPA: 3.93
Psych GPA: 4.33 (weighted)

My transcripts when applying will only have 5 psych classes on them - I'm taking 3 during fall 2013.

GRE:
I'm taking it over the summer - but I rushed through a practice test the other day (5-10 mins max per section)
148 V
151 Q
I'm not sure what the equivalent scores were on the previous scaling system 😕

Research experience:
Currently a volunteer RA in a personality and psychopathy lab 6+ hours a week (since January)
hopefully to be involved in a prison data collection study over the summer

I graduated high school in May 2012 - with many dual enrollment credits from high school, I'll be graduating after only five semesters.

Will graduating early damage my chances since I won't have the years of research experience seen on other applications?

Also, any other words of wisdom?

It sounds like you're planning on applying to several competitive schools, so I would suggest getting as much research experience as you can (in multiple labs, if possible) and maybe even getting a full-time RA position after you graduate if you want to increase your chances of getting an acceptance during your first round of applications.

As for whether graduating early will help you--here's my $0.02. I graduated early from a Big 10 school (but I only graduated a semester early). When I was a junior, I talked with a certain faculty member who basically told me that I'm wasting my time trying to apply to PhD programs if I graduate early because it shows that I'm "not interested in getting a liberal arts education and just want to get out of school as fast as I can." Needless to say, that wasn't true. I was graduating early to save money, and I had accomplished a significant amount during the time I was there, clearly indicating that I wasn't just trying to take the easy way out. After speaking with other professors, I decided to take her advice with a grain of salt and graduated early anyway. I got several interview offers and multiple acceptances, and managed to land a spot in a fully funded program (without taking time off in between undergrad and grad school).

I personally think that if you can obtain enough quality research experience (i.e., not data entry) within the 2.5 years you were in school, then there's no reason to stay in school just to show that you took the full 4 years. And also, it's not necessary to stay in school to get research experience--as I mentioned, you can get an RA job without having to pay tuition (although it may be more difficult to get that kind of position, especially a paid one). In other words, it's not necessarily graduating early that will hurt you, but rather the limited opportunities you can take advantage of given that you were in college for such a short amount of time. If you have a good reason for graduating early, I would personally just seek research experience elsewhere (it might be necessary given the types of programs you want to apply to). I hope that helps!
 
Hi everyone, new to the forum!

I'll be graduating spring of 2014 and I'm interested in PhD programs for clincal psych, especially with forensic focus.
I'll be graduating with a BA in psychology and a minor in CJ, also in the honors program

Top schools I'm interested in:
University of Alabama (Tuscaloosa)
West Virginia University
University of Arizona
Texas A&M
Sam Houston State University

Unfortunately, schools that have forensic intrerest are few and far between.
I'm also looking the following for regular clinical psychology
UNC (Chapel Hill)
University of Virginia
East Carolina University
Marshall University
UNLV

Also, any other words of wisdom?

You should add the Clinical Psych program at University of North Texas to that list if you're interested in forensic psych, specifically Drs. Richard Rogers and Craig Neumann.
 
Hi everyone, new to the forum!

I'll be graduating spring of 2014 and I'm interested in PhD programs for clincal psych, especially with forensic focus.
I'll be graduating with a BA in psychology and a minor in CJ, also in the honors program

Top schools I'm interested in:
University of Alabama (Tuscaloosa)
West Virginia University
University of Arizona
Texas A&M
Sam Houston State University

Unfortunately, schools that have forensic intrerest are few and far between.
I'm also looking the following for regular clinical psychology
UNC (Chapel Hill)
University of Virginia
East Carolina University
Marshall University
UNLV

Currently a "junior"
Cum. GPA: 3.93
Psych GPA: 4.33 (weighted)

My transcripts when applying will only have 5 psych classes on them - I'm taking 3 during fall 2013.

GRE:
I'm taking it over the summer - but I rushed through a practice test the other day (5-10 mins max per section)
148 V
151 Q
I'm not sure what the equivalent scores were on the previous scaling system 😕

Research experience:
Currently a volunteer RA in a personality and psychopathy lab 6+ hours a week (since January)
hopefully to be involved in a prison data collection study over the summer

I graduated high school in May 2012 - with many dual enrollment credits from high school, I'll be graduating after only five semesters.

Will graduating early damage my chances since I won't have the years of research experience seen on other applications?

Also, any other words of wisdom?


How does one have a weighted GPA in college?

Also, you don't necessarily want a program with a forensic concentration--you want a POI with a strong forensic background and forensic clinical and research experience.

I agree with others that graduating after only 5 semesters could hurt you. If it was just a semester early, that's no big deal, but with a whole year and half less, you're losing valuable research experience. If you really want/need to graduate early for financial or personal reasons, look into getting a full-time RA job to gain research experience after graduation.

Good luck! :luck:
 
I've been asking through a couple of the grad students I know here if they know of any volunteer opportunities or research opportunities, but unfortunately few I've heard about aren't accepting anyone.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to apply to master's programs with POIs focusing on forensic research and gain more experience that way.

Thanks for all the help guys.
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I'm on two waitlists for clinical psychology phd programs (both are ranked somewhere around 100s in the rankings and both are in relatively rural areas)...what would you guys think my chances are of getting into one of the two programs?

(neither one of them indicated where I am on the waitlists...don't know if this is a bad or good sign!)

Thanks!! 🙂
 
I'm on two waitlists for clinical psychology phd programs (both are ranked somewhere around 100s in the rankings and both are in relatively rural areas)...what would you guys think my chances are of getting into one of the two programs?

(neither one of them indicated where I am on the waitlists...don't know if this is a bad or good sign!)

Thanks!! 🙂

In all honesty, it's pretty much impossible to say without more information from each specific program (which you unfortunately likely don't have, such as--as you've mentioned--your place on the list, how far into their lists each program goes on average each year, etc.).

People do routinely make it into programs off of waitlists (I was one such person way back when), but beyond saying it could happen, there unfortunately isn't much additional insight we can offer.
 
What are your chances? Not good.

26 years old and just graduated from top 30 school. 3.6 gpa. 163 verbal gre, 154 quant, 4.0 aw. Research experience.

Applied to 15 schools. so far 14 rejections. Expect the 15th any day now
 
Hello everyone!

I have a few questions. I am thinking of applying to clinical psychology phd programs in a year. I am currently a junior at a well respected Big Ten school. I have just started thinking of Clinical Psych so my Psych curricula consists of mostly Biological Psych classes - however I have taken both Clinical and Abnormal Psych (performed well in both) as well as an upper-level Stats class.


Here are my credentials:

Overall GPA - 3.40
Psych GPA - 3.7
Overall GPA is lower because of difficult science classes (i.e., Organic Chemistry, Neurobiology, Animal Behavior - however I have received Bs in each)
Cognitive Psychology Lab RA - 2.5 years (after senior year completed)
-possibly published paper (only going to be third author though)
-will also be working with Parkinson's patients my senior year
Learning and Memory Psychology Lab - 2 years (after senior year completed)
-possibly published paper (first author)
Member of my University's Undergraduate Research Program
Volunteered at University Hospital ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) unit for one year - 80-100 hrs
Summer Day Camp Counselor - 1-on-1 with an Autistic child
National Society of Collegiate Scholars member
Will graduate with Honors and will complete an Honors Thesis
Work in the Psychology Department advising potential Psychology majors


I plan on applying to other schools in the Midwest (with a preference of other Big Ten schools - love the atmosphere).
I also understand that GRE scores play a large role and will be completing it this summer, but I am just curious if there are any other activities I can complete in attempt to strength my case.

Thanks for all your help!
 
I'm a undergraduate, and I wanna apply a clinic or consult program in North America.🙂

🙁I'm not a higher level applicant.

In my campus life, I have a good foundation of development psy(3.8), statistic(4.2), SPSS(4.5), abnormal psy(3.6), and counselling(4.0). In the field of therapy, after class I learned some knowledge about Object Relationship, systematic desensitization and SFBT. Due to the host experience, I'm a popular leader of group counseling about dorm relationship. BTW I’m a paraprofessinal counselor in my school’s Mental Health Education Center.

In the same time I was using my summer vocation to come into contact with applied field. Out of campus, I worked in DMH of Changchun hospital and Daytop(second year) as a odd-job worker.

I want to know what kind of clinic(or consult) subdiscipline is more suitable for me.

My GPA:3.47. And now I'm preparing for my iBT.

Ps: English is my second language, so there maybe some grammar mistakes.
 
Hi all,

I graduated college in 2011 and have been as a research coordinator since then. I would like to apply to clinical psych doctorate programs for Fall 2014 (some programs that I'm interested in: USC, UMN, UNC, University of Washington, University of Denver, UMass Boston, Teacher's College, BU, UCSB combined program, Duke, UVM, GW).

These are my stats:
GRE V: 165
GRE Q: 159
AW: 4.5

GPA: 3.7, Psych GPA 3.75

Publications: senior honors thesis, 1 first author paper, 1 third author paper, 2 posters, 1 paper presentation, several other manuscripts "in preparation" on which I am an author (first on one).

I have several questions and would appreciate any and all feedback!

I am interested in doing a child focus in my program, but my publications are mainly on adults and not in my fields of interest, will this hurt me?

I would like to stop my job in June and travel and volunteer (working with youth) through the summer and fall while I apply to schools. Will this be looked upon unfavorably by schools? Do I have enough research experience to leave my job in June? Am I competitive applicant for these programs?
 
New to this website and hoping to get some useful advice. I am currently a junior at a 4 year university and am majoring in psychology. I have been interested in applying to clinical psyd programs since I have declared my major. Unfortunately, my GPA is only a 3.2. I did do a field study (internship) for a probation office and have some experience with deviant adults and am involved in a club through my university. I also have volunteered for Autism Speaks. I plan to get more experience with the time that I have left. While I plan to apply to Masters programs as a backup, can anyone tell me what they think my chances are given my current circumstances? Thanks!
 
Hello everyone,

I am new here and after lurking a bit decided to sign up and hopefully get some perspective.
This is my second go-round for applying to PhDs and it's really starting wear on me considerably. I can't help feeling like I'm doing something wrong or there's something that I'm not including that's not giving me a competitive enough edge against other candidates when I browse through some of the other stats people have listed in this thread.

My focus is in forensics, specifically, crime, psychology of murder, violence, sexual violence etc. So I looked for schools with faculty focused in those areas. It's very difficult finding more forensically oriented faculty/labs so with the suggestion of one of the professors I research for, I split my applications between Clinical Psy and Criminal Justice. Currently, I still await word from 4 schools. I am waitlisted at Michigan State (crim), Florida State (psy), UIC (psy) and U. New Haven (crim).

If I don't get in anywhere, I have to really consider if I want to try again next year. Not because I don't want to go but because I'm 28 years old and it's really time that I need to find a job and a stable independent income.

Here are my stats.
Undergraduate: 3.54; 3.7 in final 2 years; 3.7 in major (psychology)
Did a combined degree in my undergrad and finished with a 3.9 in master's level course work. (school was not a research school).
Did an internship at a substance abuse clinic for recent parolees.
GRE: 580 V 580Q 4.5A


2 year break where I worked abroad as a teacher in Spain.

Came back to gain more research experience in the forensic field, and establish some networking. Went for a research focused Master's at John Jay in Forensic Psych. Currently have a 3.5.

Full year of heavy research methods classes and statistics classes at the graduate level.

I had some bad luck with research labs my first semester. The first one I worked in, my professor who had decided he wanted to be my adviser for my thesis suddenly dropped me at the end of the semester (after I did a lot of lab work for him) claiming one of his other students isn't graduating on time and now he has more thesis students than he can comfortably handle. (This was shady from the start because the next semester he took more students.) The second one I worked in was a huge lab with more than 20 students in it and was run by the department chair. She went on sabbatical the following semester and because I was one of the last ones brought into the lab, I was the first let go because they claimed they had too many people.

Currently though I'm in a sex offenders lab run by my adviser and am finishing up my thesis. She's on maternity leave though so now we're just communicating via email. I also work as a research assistant at the Center on Terrorism, which is part of John Jay College.

I've done some local poster presentations through my universities but didn't have data collected in time to do any presentations at conferences. If I don't get in anywhere, I'll be using my completed thesis for presentations for conferences coming up in the fall.

I don't know how useful it would be reapplying to schools I was rejected from for 2013-14 if I need to.

My list was as follows:
U. Arizona
Simon Fraser
U. North Texas
Penn State (Crim)
U. North Dakota (and I found out that due to a clerical error my application never made it to the department. I was very upset that day.)
U. Nebraska-Lincoln
Florida State
Michigan State (crim)
UIC
U. New Haven (crim)

But like I said, it's hard to find forensically oriented faculty.
 
New to this website and hoping to get some useful advice. I am currently a junior at a 4 year university and am majoring in psychology. I have been interested in applying to clinical psyd programs since I have declared my major. Unfortunately, my GPA is only a 3.2. I did do a field study (internship) for a probation office and have some experience with deviant adults and am involved in a club through my university. I also have volunteered for Autism Speaks. I plan to get more experience with the time that I have left. While I plan to apply to Masters programs as a backup, can anyone tell me what they think my chances are given my current circumstances? Thanks!

things that you mentioned that i did and regret:
-getting an MS
-getting a PsyD

A Master's takes 2 years, applying there as a backup to a PsyD doesn't make a lot of sense. It would only take 1 year to wait to apply to doc programs again......I mean, maybe others would like to chime in here bc i hear ppl talk about masters as backup plans all the time and it really sounds like a big waste of time and money, unless you think (like i did) that all you want is an MS and then you change your career goals and realize you need the doc. Otherwise, apply to docs and if you dont get in, spend the year improving ur CV and try again in a year. Mayb if you do enuf kewl CV building over the year off, you could avoid my second mistake and apply to PhD instead of PsyD 😉
 
I have thought about that too. I am mainly just worried how severely my GPA may hurt my chances. Thanks for the input!
 
Anyone else have any input? Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thanks!
 
GPA: 3.85
Large Public School Unviersity (Think UVA, UT-Austin, UNC-CH, etc)
GRE: 161(620) V /161(770) M

Research Experience:
- 6 m of full-time RA experience in obesity
- 2.5 years of undergrad RA experience in eating disorders
- Honors thesis

Publications / Posters:
- 2 publications: one 1st author, one 2nd author
- 2 posters: 1st author in school conference, 2nd author international conference
- Wrote honors thesis (which eventually became my 1st author pub)

Clinical Experience:
- 5 months volunteer for national eating disorder association hotline

Work Experience:
Making a career switch from Wall Street with 1.5 years of experience


I am applying to programs in ED research as well, and all of my recs will come from people who did research in eating disorders / obesity
 
So I'm looking through these posts and not feeling so good about my own chances...am I correct? Should I look into Masters programs instead?

Cumulative undergrad gpa: 3.4
Psychology gpa: 3.6

GRE: 162 on verbal, 143 on quantitative 🙁

I got into psychology late in my undergrad career; I have a double BA in English and Psychology. Because of that, I've done no research. I do have some experience working in a mental health clinic as a tech, but I'm not sure what that's worth.

My ideal program would be Duquesne because I have a background in English/Philosophy/Religion and I'm very much interested in the qualitative orientation of their research as well as the more "hippieish" for lack of a better word slant of their faculty, although thankfully unlike many "hippie" psychology programs they have a good academic reputation, good financial aid, internship placement, etc.

I think I could write a fantastic letter of intent detailing why I think their program is a great fit for me and also include a very good academic writing sample, and I could get some good letters of recommendation. Would that be enough to make up for the lack of research and my low quantitative GRE score? I may retake it, but I'd prefer not to. I studied a decent bit on my own, just have a poor background in math due to several reasons.

Honestly I'm more interested in applied than research. I'm just afraid that a Masters won't net me the same intensity of training and overall education as a PhD program, even though I'm sure I would suffer through parts of it.
 
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For the last two years I have been working at Massachusetts General Hospital as a Clinical Research Coordinator. The research I work on, while clinical, is mostly emergency medicine based, as I work in the Emergency Department. However, the first (of three) studies that I have coordinated focused on providing interventions to those with drug abuse issues. I was provided clinical supervision from the Clinical Director of the School of Social Work at Washington University, and earned a certification in Motivational Interviewing. This was 2011.

I am now working on a trauma based, bio-medical study, and a CAT Scan study. Given that MGH is the #1 hospital in the country, I was wondering how well my research experience would stack up against others. Do programs for clinical psychology look kindly on this type of research? Or, should I try to find more psychology/psychiatry based research positions (they are hard to come by)? It should be noted that I was not accepted this year into a clinical PhD. program. Any thoughts would be appreciated!
 
Hey everyone,

I'm new to this forum and I was just looking for a bit of advice on how to approach applying for a PsyD program. I have awhile to apply, so I'm just trying to figure out where i'm at with the process of it all and what recommendations anyone could give me. I'm afraid I won't have a strong enough application so I was trying to see what would make it better. I had a dual major in psychology and criminal justice, and was planning on going to law school all throughout undergrad, so the decision for a PsyD program is pretty new to me. I ultimately want to work with adolescents so I think a program geared towards that is what I'll need to look for. Okay so here's what I have so far:

Undergrad GPA: 3.43
Psych GPA: 3.25

I also studied abroad in England and basically got a 3.0 overall. The classes there were extremely difficult and I tried my hardest, but I couldn't get any higher grades.

Experience:
-Peer Assistance Hotline Program for three years in college
-Internship in a Probation Department (for juveniles) for a semester
-6 months in a Group Home for adolescents
-Currently working in a non-secure detention for juveniles for 8 months now, and plan to be working there up until the Fall 2014 semester when I'm able to start a program.

I have absolutely zero research experience. As I said earlier, I never planned on going to graduate school for psychology, so I never did anything in undergrad. Is it really important to have research when I'm going for a PsyD because I want to work in the clinical setting?

I have a mentor at my current job that is going to help me and write me a LOR, and she said the job I have now is perfect clinical experience for this type of program. I work kind of closely with her when it comes to the residents.

I haven't take the GRE's or Psychology GRE yet, but I am studying and taking one in April and then the other over the summer so I have ample amount of time to study. Does anyone have any other suggestions for me? I know my psychology grades aren't that great either, but would this deter a program from accepting me?

Thank you guys for reading and for advice!
 
I applied this year to eight clinical PhD. programs and was rejected. Here are the credentials I applied with:

Graduated from: Northeastern University
Graduating GPA: 3.56
Psychology GPA: 3.8
GRE: V-155, Q-155 (Will be retaking soon)
Current Employment: Emergency Medicine Research Department at Massachusetts General Hospital (The nation's leading hospital. Please don't mistake this for bragging. I thought stating the rank would be beneficial to this inquiry).
Title: Clinical Research Coordinator I
Experience:
1) Three years experience in residential care with violent female youth (Asst. Supervisor).

2) One year in customer service.

3) Two years in clinical research at Massachusetts General Hospital
- Certified in Motivational Interviewing (Brief Intervention).
- Provided drug interventions in an Emergency Room setting for drug use study funded by NIH and NIMH
- Currently working on medical trauma based study funded by Dept. of Defense.
- 2 medical journal publications and another on the way, plus a poster presentation during under for my semester long directed study.
I want to study psychopathy, violence, and forensic psychology.


-Knowing that I will be retaking the GREs and that half of my research is medically based, what do you think my chances are at getting into a clinical and/or counseling PhD. program?
-Do programs view medical research in a kind light?
-Should I move from the research department that I am currently in and seek out a psychology/psychiatry based program? I want to reapply for 2014 so, I'm not sure moving is the best idea.
-Does the fact that I work at the #1 Hospital in the country help my application, or does it have a neutral affect? 👍 / 👎

Thank you all for your thoughts. 🙂
 
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Howl -

First keep in mind I'm in your boat as well but I may or may not have something to add here: finding an RA position more directly related to psychology (and subsequently, hopefully getting a nice letter of Rec from the PI) may be more helpful to you than your current research. I get the sense you're doing good empirical and scientific work but your pois will be comparing that experience to other equally appealing candidates who have more experience directly relevant to psychology. IMO, do what you can in the next year to further associate yourself more with the psychology side of science than the general medicine side.

Also, could you elaborate on how your research interests tie in with a counseling program? You mentioned both counseling and clinical and the counseling struck me as unusual (though not unheard of).
 
Given that MGH is the #1 hospital in the country, I was wondering how well my research experience would stack up against others.

Given? That you repeatedly mention this hospital as #1 (in what, by who?) honestly makes me question how your personal statement looked.
 
And yes, the prestige of a research institution will only help. It certainly did for me at least. Improving your GRE scores should help you.
 
For the last two years I have been working at Massachusetts General Hospital as a Clinical Research Coordinator. The research I work on, while clinical, is mostly emergency medicine based, as I work in the Emergency Department. However, the first (of three) studies that I have coordinated focused on providing interventions to those with drug abuse issues. I was provided clinical supervision from the Clinical Director of the School of Social Work at Washington University, and earned a certification in Motivational Interviewing. This was 2011.

I am now working on a trauma based, bio-medical study, and a CAT Scan study. Given that MGH is the #1 hospital in the country, I was wondering how well my research experience would stack up against others. Do programs for clinical psychology look kindly on this type of research? Or, should I try to find more psychology/psychiatry based research positions (they are hard to come by)? It should be noted that I was not accepted this year into a clinical PhD. program. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

You mentioned you want to study psychopathology, violence, and forensic psychology (which, btw, are all huge and vague fields...maybe you weren't focused enough?) but most of your experience has been in EM in the hospital...I can see where the disconnect is and maybe why you didn't get accepted this year. Of course, this could just be one of many possible reasons. As a research coordinator, did you get your own project or anything at all? I find that's one of the fall backs of being an RA or RC, that we are so overwhelmed with the administrative aspect that, unlike an honors student, we don't have our "own projects" since our job is to assist in other people's projects.

Also, you keep mentioning the MGH, which I'm sure is a great hospital, but just because you work at "the number one hospital" doesn't necessarily reflect any better or worse on you. I believe it is what you make of it. Working at a well-known place may get you connections "oh, you work with Dr. Smith? I think very highly of her work" but I truly doubt your app will get picked over another person simply because "Howl worked at the number one hospital, so his experience must mean something more than this other guy at the number 2 hospital". Unless you had to jump through hoops and take certification exams and needed to have a phd to work at MGH, I wouldn't rely on the name to get you in. Working at the number 1 place but doing your bare minimum job is no better than working at a small town unknown hospital but getting glowing rec letters from the director (just an example).
 
Given? That you repeatedly mention this hospital as #1 (in what, by who?) honestly makes me question how your personal statement looked.

Regarding the personal statement, I can definitely see how mentioning the purported rank of the hospital (whether directly or indirectly) would be viewed negatively. Rankings tend to be much, much more heavily-emphasized in the med school admissions/general medicine area than they are in psychology. Thus, mentioning a ranking, coupled with research being largely constrained to medical topics (which of course isn't to say that psychologically-relevant research isn't conducted in medical settings), could have caused admissions committees/POIs to think to themselves, "I wonder if this person was pre-med and either just recently jumped ship or is applying to psych programs as a back up; thus, odds are they're relatively uncommitted to psych grad school."

Mind you, I'm not saying any of that is true, but that's how it could be construed.

I'd say the most bang for your buck application-wise is likely going to be upping your GREs, which you've already mentioned you're working at. Getting psych research could certainly help as well, although if your current work has led to you being involved in the actual data analysis and/or writing and publishing processes, be sure to play that up. Regardless of the type of research, POIs tend to love in-depth experience.
 
Especially because MGH is the biggest employer in Boston...probably lots of people who work at MGH apply to schools every year!
 
Especially because MGH is the biggest employer in Boston...probably lots of people who work at MGH apply to schools every year!

That, and I'd hazard a guess that the majority of even those psychologists who aren't in behavioral medicine and/or don't work in medical centers know MGH is a very good hospital with a solid history in research and training.
 
Especially because MGH is the biggest employer in Boston...probably lots of people who work at MGH apply to schools every year!

Yeah, that's a fair point as well. When I RA'd at Big Name U, there were probably enough applicants just from RA's of that institution alone to fill classes at certain PhD programs. This is why the quality of your experience matters, not just showing up to a position at a well known institution (not saying this is what you did).
 
Just applied to Nova southeastern Psy.S program and Barry's School psychology program. I have a 3.52 GPA, 5 years experience, 2 ok letters, and a phenomenal personal statement. Should I be worried?
 
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