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zkp+h said:
Got a call from Dr. Chan this morning. I'm in! Regular decision, interviewed 10/13. He was very complimentary and spoke about the aspects of my application/interview day that really stood out to the admissions committee. Very grateful for the call.
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Congratulations!! Gees. Talk about fast turnover time!
 
zkp+h said:
Got a call from Dr. Chan this morning. I'm in! Regular decision, interviewed 10/13. He was very complimentary and spoke about the aspects of my application/interview day that really stood out to the admissions committee. Very grateful for the call.
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You interviewed this last Sunday (do they even have Sunday interviews)? Or do you mean September 13th?
 
zkp+h said:
Got a call from Dr. Chan this morning. I'm in! Regular decision, interviewed 10/13. He was very complimentary and spoke about the aspects of my application/interview day that really stood out to the admissions committee. Very grateful for the call.
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Wait...do you mean 9/13???
 
zkp+h said:
Got a call from Dr. Chan this morning. I'm in! Regular decision, interviewed 09/13. He was very complimentary and spoke about the aspects of my application/interview day that really stood out to the admissions committee. Very grateful for the call.
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Do you mind sharing stats? And maybe what he said they liked about your app?
 
My bad, I meant to say I interviewed 9/13. I am in state with a LizzyM of 73.5. I was previously pursuing a career in public accounting, so they liked my diversity of experiences. I personally felt as though my EC's were average, but he mentioned that I was a strong writer and articulated everything into a coherent story/journey from pursuing a career in business to switching to medicine. Also mentioned my interview was definitely a strong point of my application as a whole.
 
scrubdownrubdown said:
for mmi’s should we plan to introduce ourselves in each room?
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Yes just make sure to use the Name of a superstar. It will make you more memorable.

Jk but most places tell you the format they prefer. Some have told us to just enter the room and start, others tell us to introduce ourselves. If I remember right the U has you introduce yourself so they know who they are evaluating .
 
scrubdownrubdown said:
for mmi’s should we plan to introduce ourselves in each room?
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They have a sheet with everyone's pic, but they don't know who will walk through the door. Tell them your name so they know who they are interviewing, then start yelling at them so they know who is in charge. JK. just introduce yourself. They'll take a quick peek at their list then they'll start the discussion.
 
tbf17 said:
Also got the call on 10/17!! I’m a reapplicant and was previously rejected post-interview in March so this one feels good. Best of luck to you all!
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In state? Congratulations!
 
tbf17 said:
Also got the call on 10/17!! I’m a reapplicant and was previously rejected post-interview in March so this one feels good. Best of luck to you all!
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Congrats! Can I ask what your stats are?
 
II. BYU student but OOS, LM 72. Anybody know if BYU students are considered IS or OOS for admissions numbers here?
 
Westfound said:
II. BYU student but OOS, LM 72. Anybody know if BYU students are considered IS or OOS for admissions numbers here?
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Congrats! And they're considered non-residents, but are considered within a pool of non-residents that graduated from a Utah high school or university. So there is a slight advantage.
 
Westfound said:
II. BYU student but OOS, LM 72. Anybody know if BYU students are considered IS or OOS for admissions numbers here?
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From what I understood during my interview, we (BYU students) are in a non-resident category who graduated from a Utah college or high school. They accept:
90 in-state residents
10 non-residents who graduated from a Utah high school/college
15 'true' non-residents
10 Idaho residents
And they interview about 4x each number per category. So:
360 in-state
40 non-residents who are kinda residents
60 non-residents
40 Idahoans
For a total of 500ish
 
m1redsox said:
From what I understood during my interview, we (BYU students) are in a non-resident category who graduated from a Utah college or high school. They accept:
90 in-state residents
10 non-residents who graduated from a Utah high school/college
15 'true' non-residents
10 Idaho residents
And they interview about 4x each number per category. So:
360 in-state
40 non-residents who are kinda residents
60 non-residents
40 Idahoans
For a total of 500ish
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Thanks, very descriptive!
 
m1redsox said:
From what I understood during my interview, we (BYU students) are in a non-resident category who graduated from a Utah college or high school. They accept:
90 in-state residents
10 non-residents who graduated from a Utah high school/college
15 'true' non-residents
10 Idaho residents
And they interview about 4x each number per category. So:
360 in-state
40 non-residents who are kinda residents
60 non-residents
40 Idahoans
For a total of 500ish
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So if they interview "4x each number per category"...once you get the interview invite...its kind of an even playing field right? Saweeet. This is my dream school. I said I'd sell my soul to the sea witch to get the II, offer still stands for the acceptance! haha
 
gethprimarch said:
This exactly--Dr. Chan even mentioned that on interview day lol
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In theory this is true, but I am wondering if our pool is more competitive since they only have 35 spots for 3500 OOS students. Aka the 140/3500 OOS students who got interviews may be a more competitive group to be compared to than the 360/600 in-state students. Does that make sense? Then again, the OOS median MCAT score is the same as the IS median (according to MSAR) sooo maybe not?
 
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gethprimarch said:
This exactly--Dr. Chan even mentioned that on interview day lol
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Did he say anything about grades and MCAT? Because from what I understand you are evaluated based on 3 things:
1) Grades and MCAT 2) Your interview 3) Committee vote. Except:
How are 2 and 3 different? and
What if GPA is basically perfect and MCAT is kind of a disaster or vice versa? Will they kinda level out?
#overthinkingit # sendhelp #dreamschool
 
m1redsox said:
In theory this is true, but I am wondering if our pool is more competitive since they only have 35 spots for 3500 OOS students. Aka the 140/3500 OOS students may be a more competitive group to be compared to than the 360/600 in-state students. Does that make sense? Then again, the OOS median MCAT score is the same as the IS median (according to MSAR) sooo maybe not?
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We are talking about once you actually get the interview invite. Of course its more competitive to GET an interview if you are out of state. But once you do, based on the number of applicants that make it to that step, it's proportional.
 
dr_of_rock said:
Did he say anything about grades and MCAT? Because from what I understand you are evaluated based on 3 things:
1) Grades and MCAT 2) Your interview 3) Committee vote. Except:
How are 2 and 3 different? and
What if GPA is basically perfect and MCAT is kind of a disaster or vice versa? Will they kinda level out?
#overthinkingit # sendhelp #dreamschool
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They'll tell you all of this during interview day, but they told us that GPA/MCAT and a brief overview of your app is what gets you invited for an interview. Then, all of the interview process and adcom review happens without knowledge of your GPA/MCAT and the committee assigns a score to each applicant. At the very end, your interview/adcom "score" is added to your GPA/MCAT "score" and you get a final score. That final score is used to determine if you're accepted, waitlisted, or rejected.

Hope this helps
 
dr_of_rock said:
We are talking about once you actually get the interview invite. Of course its more competitive to GET an interview if you are out of state. But once you do, based on the number of applicants that make it to that step, it's proportional.
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I get that. What I'm saying is the 140 OOS students who get interviews might be more competitive applicants since they were selected from a pool of 3500 applicants.
 
m1redsox said:
In theory this is true, but I am wondering if our pool is more competitive since they only have 35 spots for 3500 OOS students. Aka the 140/3500 OOS students who got interviews may be a more competitive group to be compared to than the 360/600 in-state students. Does that make sense? Then again, the OOS median MCAT score is the same as the IS median (according to MSAR) sooo maybe not?
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Interesting. These numbers seem a little different than what’s on the website. Did they say they were adjusting?

Residency & Non-Residency

medicine.utah.edu medicine.utah.edu
 
maha2018 said:
Interesting. These numbers seem a little different than what’s on the website. Did they say they were adjusting?

Residency & Non-Residency

medicine.utah.edu medicine.utah.edu
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I'm not sure which one is correct, but the information on MSAR seems to reflect what they told us in the interview (90 IS / 10 OOS with school IS / 15 OOS / 10 ID)
 
m1redsox said:
I get that. What I'm saying is the 140 OOS students who get interviews might be more competitive applicants since they were selected from a pool of 3500 applicants.
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I'm out of state (and interviewing) and my MCAT is 5-6 points below their average so I'm gonna say...no. But maybe!
(So if you have lower grades/MCAT it's not over for you! Your II will hopefully come.)
 
m1redsox said:
Haha well give yourself more credit than that! With 7 II's, you must be competitive in a lot of other ways!
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I do have some epic research and a good GPA. But I'd certainly swap places with you with 2 acceptances! Congratulations!
 
dr_of_rock said:
Did he say anything about grades and MCAT? Because from what I understand you are evaluated based on 3 things:
1) Grades and MCAT 2) Your interview 3) Committee vote. Except:
How are 2 and 3 different? and
What if GPA is basically perfect and MCAT is kind of a disaster or vice versa? Will they kinda level out?
#overthinkingit # sendhelp #dreamschool
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This is totally right from what I understand. Once you’ve interviewed, the committee meets and votes and gives you a score based on PS, secondary essays, AMCAS experiences (not GPA or MCAT). Then that score (#3) is combined with score 1 (MCAT and GPA) and score 2 (interview score) and you get a total score! They then start accepting at the highest and go downward.
 
m1redsox said:
In theory this is true, but I am wondering if our pool is more competitive since they only have 35 spots for 3500 OOS students. Aka the 140/3500 OOS students who got interviews may be a more competitive group to be compared to than the 360/600 in-state students. Does that make sense? Then again, the OOS median MCAT score is the same as the IS median (according to MSAR) sooo maybe not?
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You might be right, but I know a lot of competitive instate applicants who are applying to Utah. My friend last year (instate) had a 525, 3.98 and was applying to Utah because he loves it. I wouldn’t guess that a lot of OOS students would still apply to Utah with those kind of stats because they honestly would probably have a better shot of getting in at Michigan or Vandy (or anywhere else that focuses on high stats) than they would Utah (due to Utah’s heavy in-state bias).

One of my in-state friends has already interviewed at Columbia and I’ve already interviewed at Mayo. Both of us applied and have interviewed at Utah. I don’t say that to boast of myself because frankly, ya’ll don’t know my real identity so it doesn’t matter anyway. The fact of the matter is that many of the students in the instate group are competitive despite us having an easier road to the II at Utah than OOS students. That’s not to say that the OOS pool isn’t crazy awesome—I’m sure they are super competitive. I just think more equal than was initially assumed.
 
koster35 said:
You might be right, but I know a lot of competitive instate applicants who are applying to Utah. My friend last year (instate) had a 525, 3.98 and was applying to Utah because he loves it. I wouldn’t guess that a lot of OOS students would still apply to Utah with those kind of stats because they honestly would probably have a better shot of getting in at Michigan or Vandy (or anywhere else that focuses on high stats) than they would Utah (due to Utah’s heavy in-state bias).

One of my in-state friends has already interviewed at Columbia and I’ve already interviewed at Mayo. Both of us applied and have interviewed at Utah. I don’t say that to boast of myself because frankly, ya’ll don’t know my real identity so it doesn’t matter anyway. The fact of the matter is that many of the students in the instate group are competitive despite us having an easier road to the II at Utah than OOS students. That’s not to say that the OOS pool isn’t crazy awesome—I’m sure they are super competitive. I just think more equal than was initially assumed.
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Honestly I don't think this debate really matters, since each pool of applicants is sequestered and evaluated within their own pool. Sure, Utah's IS applicant pool is likely above-average compared to other states--but I think just based off of the numbers, the OOS pool is going to be more competitive, assuming the applicant pools are anything close to a normal distribution.

So of course there will be IS applicants with 525s and 3.9s, but there are probably more applicants from the OOS pool with similar stats competing for fewer interviews. The fact that you interviewed at Mayo and know someone who interviewed at Columbia is pretty much completely irrelevant. But good for you I guess lmao
 
Anyone use any good MMI practice websites? I found some stuff but always looking to supplement
 
scrubdownrubdown said:
I was the only woman interviewing today. Lots of Mormon men
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There was only one female at our interview too. I can only imagine that this represents the applicant pool. I’m a pre med at a Utah University and there are not many females in my classes. Strong female applicants from out of state might be deterred by the high out of state tuition so they look elsewhere. If Utah is looking to accept 50% women, I’d assume almost all of them would be accepted since so few are being interviewed.
 
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