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Stony Brook MS4 here. Let me know if you have any questions about the school and/or life on Long Island.
Can you tell me something specific you live about the school? Why you chose SBU? What don't you like? Was it easy to find a mentor for research? What resources are available if a student needs help? Was there any pre matriculation program offered? How are the rotations? Scholarships? Any opportunity to work on campus? Sorry if that was a lot
 
Stony Brook MS4 here. Let me know if you have any questions about the school and/or life on Long Island.
How would you say the vibe between the students is? I heard that some people said it could be “high school” like. Also, where do most medical students study?
 
WL yesterday, interviewed 12/16. Anyone know if they are still sending out HPWL or just regular WL? I got the regular WL email....

Also, anyone know what the movement typically looks like for this WL? I love this school, so bummed I didn't get that A.. the wait is going to kill me 🙁
 
How stressful is H/P/F? Does it make your class more competitive?
I can only speak for myself, but I do think it adds a bit of competition. However, I believe it is a healthy competition that drives people to do their best (rather than the minimum). I never witnessed any "gunning."
 
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Also, do you know if OOS people can start getting IS tuition their 2nd years?
I believe so based on a memory I have of one of my classmates from California mentioning something about that back in 2017, but don't take my word for it. I'm sure admin people in the office of admissions could answer that.
 
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Can you tell me something specific you live about the school? Why you chose SBU? What don't you like? Was it easy to find a mentor for research? What resources are available if a student needs help? Was there any pre matriculation program offered? How are the rotations? Scholarships? Any opportunity to work on campus? Sorry if that was a lot
1) One thing I love about the school is that the Dean's office is very considerate of student well-being and has constructed a curriculum and atmosphere that is in line with that vision. Attendance at most preclinical lectures is not mandatory (biochem it kind of is, but that's a good thing). We take Step 1 after clerkships starting with my class, which is much less stressful and led to higher average score. There is no overnight or other call during clerkships; we work Mon-Fri, including on surgery, with some rare exceptions that do not even amount to more than 5-10 days of longer-than-normal hours throughout the clinical year. Our final exams, except for anatomy, are ALL computerized multiple choice made from retired NBME shelf/step questions--extremely good practice and also avoids completely irrelevant tiny details. All professors are very nice and understanding. The list goes on. Also, the patient population is a dream.

2) I chose SBU because it is the top SUNY school, huge research university, very nice location, no crime, suburban life, near my home back over the bridge in Westchester. I also plan to stay here for residency.

3) One thing I don't like is the inflexible grading during clerkships. If I was deemed subjectively via attending evaluations to be one of the best students EVER, literally, on a given rotation, but I got, say, a 67%ile instead of 70%ile+ on the NBME shelf exam, I would earn a high pass solely based off of the shelf exam score cutoffs. This happened to me a lot. A minor consideration in retrospect, but sometimes I wonder if and how things could be different.

4) A couple months after school started, I emailed the radiology attending who came to the radiology interest group meeting and told him I wanted to get involved in research in the department. Within a couple weeks, the department chair set me up with a research mentor, and that relationship lasted all four years and was productive. So, access to research is very easy, and the opportunities are essentially limitless.

5) The dean of students and related faculty are always available--will respond to emails from medical students same day or next day. There is also a beloved learning specialist with whom many of my friends have met for advice on studying. There is a counseling service on the other side of campus that is free or nearly free.

6) I don' know.

7) Rotations are great. Let me know if you want more info.

8) I know there are at least a few need-based scholarships.

9) My friend lived on campus and was an RA. There are also many opportunities that come up for tutoring, working as paid research assistants or administrative support, etc. Lots of stuff. There is also a gigantic university across the street, so they probably have a lot going on if you looked.
 
How would you say the vibe between the students is? I heard that some people said it could be “high school” like. Also, where do most medical students study?
I) There is definitely a gossipy high-school vibe amongst some people, and some people are compulsive, grating types. However, there are many down-to-earth people who are chill. If you combine 135 people and put them through rigorous schooling over a few years, there is bound to be all major types of person represented. I wouldn't think it is different from any other school in this way.

Edit: I've actually changed my answer above. I believe Stony Brook has, on average, high-achieving but easy-going people. Of course, there are all types of people, as well.

II) Most med students study at home or in the library. I did both.
 
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Can someone please share what the high priority waitlist says? Does it say high priority? Or does it have a statistic higher than 30%??

In the email they specifically say you are being offered a spot on the high priority wait list. It then goes on to say that those students are amongst a small group that would receive top priority once they start pulling from the wait list. No statistics were given in the email. Hope this helps!!
 
Just so everyone knows - I called them and they said that the high priority wait list is part of the estimated 30% that matriculates off the waitlist
 
Just so everyone knows - I called them and they said that the high priority wait list is part of the estimated 30% that matriculates off the waitlist
sorry Im having trouble interpreting this.. does this mean hpwl is just part of the regular waitlist? Or most people accepted from the HPWL choose to matriculate?
 
sorry Im having trouble interpreting this.. does this mean hpwl is just part of the regular waitlist? Or most people accepted from the HPWL choose to matriculate?
I think it means that HPWL is just at the top of the whole wait list. The email for normal waitlist said 30% of the waitlist usually matriculates. And they said that the people on the HPWL are part of that 30%.
so with arbitrary numbers, I interpreted that as if ~50 matriculate from the waitlist, then 20-30 of those are from HPWL. I think it’s just a way to tell us we are not at the very top of the waitlist.
 
Any other accepted students having trouble accessing their Solar Portal? I think im gonna call them tomorrow. Also, @Styrene are the Residencies listed in the 3yr MD application the only ones available for the track? I'm interested in Derm and don't find it on the list. :/
 
got an II invite today! so to anyone out there still waiting, there's still hope 🙂 def did not expect anything so late LOL. btw does anyone know how long the interview day generally is? trying to book flights and I want to leave day-of if possible.
 
got an II invite today! so to anyone out there still waiting, there's still hope 🙂 def did not expect anything so late LOL. btw does anyone know how long the interview day generally is? trying to book flights and I want to leave day-of if possible.
grats

wat dates are they scheduling?
 
grats

wat dates are they scheduling?

on my portal calendar it looks like 5-6 dates this month, and one next month. I can only see a 30-day window though, so I'm thinking there are more in March.

Days wise, seems like Tue, Thurs, Fri
 
Any other accepted students having trouble accessing their Solar Portal? I think im gonna call them tomorrow. Also, @Styrene are the Residencies listed in the 3yr MD application the only ones available for the track? I'm interested in Derm and don't find it on the list. :/

Hi HPV. Which residencies are available? If you don't feel comfortable sharing, I would be super appreciative with PM
 
Hi HPV. Which residencies are available? If you don't feel comfortable sharing, I would be super appreciative with PM
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Any other accepted students having trouble accessing their Solar Portal? I think im gonna call them tomorrow. Also, @Styrene are the Residencies listed in the 3yr MD application the only ones available for the track? I'm interested in Derm and don't find it on the list. :/
I believe so. Not 100% sure, though.
 
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Any other accepted students having trouble accessing their Solar Portal? I think im gonna call them tomorrow. Also, @Styrene are the Residencies listed in the 3yr MD application the only ones available for the track? I'm interested in Derm and don't find it on the list. :/

Hi HPV, I was explicitly told during my interview that Derm isn't taking anyone this year for the 3yr MD program (I'm a derm MA currently so they thought I might be interested).
 
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cancelled my interview! hope it goes to one of yall!
 
Rejected, second one today, what a day! They sent a nice email apologizing for how long it took to review our apps.
 
Anyone know how long is SBU's interview season is?
 
II yesterday!

It is a sweet surprise, but it also feels like they are interviewing for waitlist spots now since it's so late in the cycle.
 
II yesterday!

It is a sweet surprise, but it also feels like they are interviewing for waitlist spots now since it's so late in the cycle.

During my interview day, my interviewer said that as long as you reach a certain score on their scale you are in. They explicitly said everyone has an equal chance regardless of date.
 
During my interview day, my interviewer said that as long as you reach a certain score on their scale you are in. They explicitly said everyone has an equal chance regardless of date.

Ah thanks for that info! That's very reassuring.
 
II today. They're scheduling up to March 10th based on available dates.

Most likely going to cancel and withdraw my II/application.
 
I really applied to Stony Brook on a whim as an OOS student and received an II yesterday! I totally did not expect to get one, so I am wondering if you could help me with why Stony Brook. I did an internship at MSKCC 2 summers ago, which is mainly why I applied to SB because I love New York. I know SB is a big research school, but I feel as if that cannot be my only reason for wanting to go to SB. Any and all advice would be great!
1) Major academic institution with residency/fellowship programs in nearly every specialty/subspecialty. I think there is everything now except except for transplant/CT surgery, maybe dedicated IR, and perhaps some other very small surgical subspecialties. This means there is ample opportunity to do research in any field, and you can do all or most of your rotations at the university medical center...so plenty of opportunity to build connections in whichever field you decide to pursue. Will be very important for getting letters, etc., when applying to residency.

Edit: sorry, there are all these fields (no transplant though), and you can even rotate through chest surgery, for example. I just mean no explicit fellowships there.

2) Dynamic curriculum - can read about it on the website. Stony Brook is very forward-looking in terms of curriculum and willing to make changes if the evidence shows it works. For example, now students here take step 1 after clerkships--big jump in avg score. All unit exams (except for anatomy, at least when I took it) are computerized NBME-style exams (old nbme test questions). Extremely good prep for shelf exams and step 1/2. Also hammers home what the nbme really believes to be the most important knowledge. Also, overall great courses, good mix of small group pbl, etc.

3) reasonable clerkship schedules...really no weekends or 24-hr call nonsense

4) some ridiculously dedicated, knowledgable, helpful, and talented faculty in the dean's office.

5) can go anywhere from sbu for residency. A lot of students also stay at Stony Brook because it's a great hospital.

6) Stony Brook and surrounding villages (three village area, can look it up) are extremely nice. All median incomes $100,000+, very safe, movie theater, restaurants, Port Jeff beach town, etc. However, there is still a great mix of patients, from the ultra-wealthy to the impoverished/uninsured.

7) patient population is interesting and diverse. Many poor people, also many minorities (moreso Hispanic than black) but also a large amount of "blue collar" working people, firemen, construction, etc. Very rewarding to work with. Much different than what I saw working in NYC during undergrad.

8) start seeing real patients every few weeks maybe half-way through first year if I remember correctly. As part of the ICM course. And there are constant clinical skills center OSCEs through the years, so great prep for step 2 CS. I didn't even feel like I had to study for that.

9) MS4 electives are so varied, and you can basically do whatever you want if it's available.
 
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