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WAMC: What Are My Chances

Discussion in 'Psychology [Psy.D. / Ph.D.]' started by Therapist4Chnge, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. WisNeuro

    WisNeuro Board Certified Neuropsychologist Psychologist 7+ Year Member

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    This goes up top in the WAMC thread.
     
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  4. psych.meout

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    I wouldn't apply to or attend either of those programs. The PhD and PsyD programs at each school are prohibitively expensive (>$28,000/year for tuition alone) and have poor internship match rates.
     
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    Hi everyone,

    I don't often post on here so I apologize if I'm posting in the wrong place. I'm wondering what my chances are of getting into the clinical phd program at UNLV.

    My undergrad is in psych- 3.1 gpa (psych gpa was 3.5, my minor & working full time KILLED me, hoping the MHA is redeeming)
    Master's in health administration (cahme accredited)- 3.9 gpa
    GRE Verbal- 151
    GRE Quantitative- 151
    Written- 4

    I'm currently the program supervisor at a community mental health facility where I supervise the office in my county, which includes a group home for people with mental illnes, a day program and work program. I've been here about 9 months, but will have been in this position about 2 years when I apply. Prior to this position I worked for children's protective services for the state of Michigan, and before that I worked in group homes for adults with developmental disabilities (about 4 years total).

    I have no research experience. I now live in an extremely rural area and have no universities near me. I have, however, started working with a group that has surveyed students at local public schools to identify what might be protective and risk factors for using drugs/alcohol. We've analyzed the results and are now working with the community to choose two risk factors to focus on and hopefully remedy.

    TIA for any feedback!
     
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  6. WisNeuro

    WisNeuro Board Certified Neuropsychologist Psychologist 7+ Year Member

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    The GRE needs to come up quite a bit, you're around the 50th percentile for Verbal, and low 40s for Quant. Although, the lack of research experience will be the bigger barrier, especially at a program like UNLV. Without research experience, it's going to be hard to get into a program without other dynamite stats, like GREs in the 90th%+. Also, if you're applying to only one program, even with a good GRE and research experiences, chances are very, very low.
     
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  9. bilboben

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    Did you get a masters?
     
  10. rachel54

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    Thank you for the feedback! I appreciate it.
     
  11. jpneuro

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    Hey there! Applying to Clinical Psych Ph.D. programs for fall 2018, want to do neuropsych - really wanting some feedback on how likely it is that I'll get in

    Undergrad GPA: 3.68 (Psychology major, biology minor)
    Psych GPA: 3.89
    GRE: 155V, 149Q, 5A (taking it again in hopes of raising my scores, but I've never done well on standardized tests)

    Clinical experience: Currently working as a psychometrist for a group of psychologists (administer pain, neuro, kid, and kid neuro tests)
    Research experience: Was a research assistant to 3 different projects at my school and 3 projects at a different school; conducted my own research project that was presented at my school's research symposium & at a school wide presentation
    I also have an encyclopedia entry (psych encyclopedia entry) that has been accepted and is under publication - I was also a stats tutor at my school

    Applying to:
    UAB
    UConn
    SDSU & UC SD
    Georgia State University
    NW University Feinberg School of Medicine
    Loyola Chicago
    University of Kentucky
    Saint Louis University
    Fordham
    Vanderbilt
    UT Southwestern
    University of Houston
    UT Austin
    University of Utah

    Any feedback is welcome, thanks!
     
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  12. MamaPhD

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    You could apply this year (after boosting your GRE score) but I think you'd be more competitive with more research experience and research products (eg, poster(s) at national conferences, peer-reviewed publications). Most competitive applicants will have more to show from their undergraduate research experiences. The clinical experience is less important. Consider a gap year to work in a research setting.
     
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  14. psych.meout

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    I have to agree with MamaPhD. I would suggest getting more research experience before you are competitive at many of those programs, some of which have very low acceptance rates and really emphasize research experience, e.g. both SDs.

    What exactly did you do as a research assistant on these "projects?" Were you doing data entry, coding, and other grunt work or were you doing more advanced conceptual work, e.g. designing the studies and writing the manuscripts, that would have earned you a co-authorship? The former will not help you very much with admissions compared to the latter.
     
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  15. psych.meout

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    I would really rethink the programs to which you are applying. William James alone is just awful. The cohorts are so huge (approaching 100 per cohort) that you're unlikely to get great mentorship, are unlikely to match to an accredited internship (<50% last year), and likely to go into heavy debt ($44,000/year for tuition alone).

    I'd recommend deferring your applications to get more research experience. I wouldn't focus on getting more clinical experience, because it is rare to get the kind of experience that would actually help your application substantially (I was able to get this kind of experience and it helped my applications a lot, but my job very, very unique and rare) and the opportunity cost of getting clinical experience instead research experience is huge.

    Looking the thread you started, it seems like you don't have a good grasp on the differences between PsyD and PhD programs. It's a huge misconception that PsyDs are for people who want to be clinicians and PhDs are for researchers. PhD students at good, fully-funded programs get as much, if not more, clinical training than students in PsyD programs, but they also get the great research experience needed to inform their clinical practice with the best scientific evidence and perspectives available.
     
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  16. jpneuro

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    For some research projects, yes, I only did the data entry/grunt work. For others however, I did help in designing the study and writing the manuscripts. Also, completing my own research project I did every step on my own - from start (coming up with a research idea) to finish (presenting the results). Will the research project I did on my own not help me at all?
     
  17. psyd12321

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    How would more research experience help my applications to PsyD programs? From what I've seen, I have more than enough research experience to be a competitive applicant. Totally understand what you are saying about WJC though.

    Furthermore, I do understand the differences between PsyD and PhD programs. I mainly am not applying to PhD programs because I do not want to do research in graduate school. I am willing to do research next year and apply for a Ph.D. program next year if I do not get into a funded Psy.D. this year.
     
  18. WisNeuro

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    There is generally no real difference in the amount of research you will do in a reputable PsyD vs a balanced PhD program. Any reputable PsyD will still have a certain amount of research as part of your education.
     
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  19. psych.meout

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    Again, this demonstrates that you don't know what you're talking about regarding grad programs. As WisNeuro wrote, any PsyD program worth attending is going to require research on par with PhD programs. More importantly, you don't seem to understand the purpose of research in grad school. It isn't simply to train students of research or TT positions. To provide competent assessments and treatments that are ethically and professionally sound, you need a strong basis in science, which comes from doing research. Even if you just want a purely clinical career, you need your assessments and treatments to conform to the latest and greatest science, which requires you to be able to properly understand and evaluate the extant research. Without doing research of your own at the graduate level, it's suspect at best that you will be able to do this.
     
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    I will try not to make this a WAMC thread. If it turns into one, please feel free to move me.

    I am a first year semi-nontraditional (22yo) transfer student to a top five US university (HPYSM). I have Junior standing. I come from a community college where I finished with a 3.92 GPA, and graduated Summa Cum Laude with an Associate's of Applied Science in Mental Health and Social Work. A part of this program was a capstone in Psychology, and I have four psych courses (Intro, Abnormal, Child Development, and Adjustment) on my CC transcript (three A's and an A- FWIW), as well as the four core courses of the program in Social Work (four A's).

    I am interested in Clinical Child Psychology, and PhD programs, but I haven't gone the route of a Psychology major. I am a Human Biology major, which takes a very interdisciplinary take on both biological and social science topics. It involves a year long "core" of six courses, followed by you choosing an Area of Concentration and basically running with it, picking classes suitable for breadth and depth within that AoC.

    I have done well thus far (knock on wood), and anticipate finishing my first semester here with a 3.8-4.0. I have also gotten involved in a psychiatry lab (BCBA) as a volunteer for credit. I will also be completing a large independent 10-week research fellowship project this summer.

    In planning future classes however, I have run into a bit of a conundrum. I don't have many future psychology courses planned (as in having the PSYCH ###), despite my planned AoC being "Adolescent Psychosocial Development". Many of the courses that I believe would be most beneficial in this realm, and to an eventual PhD in Clinical Psych, are offered with the HUMBIO tag. The HumBio courses I do have planned are, for the vast majority, highly related to psychological processes. "Adolescent Development" and "Boys' Psychosocial Development" as two examples, as well as "Child Development in Contexts of Risk and Adversity" which is actually under the School of Education. Many of the core classes I'm in currently or will be taking also involve quite a lot of psychology within them - despite the HumBio tag.

    The only two "PSYCH" courses I have planned at this moment are the well-known and oft-taken Intro to Psych course, and an Intro to Personality course, both of which I would not take until next academic year, considered my senior year, as I applied to PhD programs (assuming I don't take a gap year to allow for my senior year to show and gain further experience).

    To wrap this up - will my course selections in HumBio, rather than the traditional Psych, negatively affect my standing in the competitive environment that is Clinical (Child) Psych PhD admissions?

    Would I be better off taking a gap year in a research role, or even pursuing an MS in Psych, in preparation for PhD applications, knowing that only one year at my current institution will be reflected in transcripts right out of undergrad?

    I hope this wasn't too long-winded. Thanks to all in advance!
     
  21. psych.meout

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    No, no one cares about how your undergrad classifies or categorizes your courses, they care about what the contents of the courses are.

    Do you have any research experience outside of this upcoming "research fellowship?" If so, what exactly did you do in your previous research? What is this forthcoming "fellowship" like and what will you be doing there?

    Just get the best grades and as much research experience as you can.
     
  22. psyd12321

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    In all the psyd programs I've looked at research seems less emphasized than in Ph.D. programs. Is this understanding correct? And let me rephrase, I am open to doing research in graduate school, I just do not want to do as much as a Ph.D. students do. In my career I do not plan on doing research.

    With all that being said, all I was looking for from my post was whether I would be considered an above average, average, or below average candidate, as I want to be realistic and have back up plans to improve my chances for a second-round.

    Thanks so much for the responses.
     
  23. mjr2013

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    My research experience started this semester at my university, working in a lab under one of my professors. At the moment it consists of tedious tasks (data entry and truly just getting my feet wet within the research process), however he has mentioned that good interns/assistants under him can go far quickly, and that he is not opposed to allowing me to even get involved in the writing process, should I stay with him into future semesters as I plan to.

    Explaining this summer's plan requires a bit of background. Prior to transferring, I worked at a nonprofit residential treatment facility for foster care youth. I was a "treatment specialist" (i.e. not the clinical team), but worked hands-on with the youth, and established quite a good rapport with the clinical staff.

    My university offers a summer fellowship program where you work with a community organization (nonprofit) of your choosing in a research role, with a faculty advisor and cooperating community organization. There are two research-based courses that are taken prior to the experience, and the experience itself is a full time 10-week project over the course of the summer. You go from a research/hypothesis proposal, to execution over the summer, to presentation the following Autumn. It is independent, with faculty and community support, and past projects have even been able to be published.
     
  24. psych.meout

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    You're still not listening. You don't want to attend PsyD programs where research isn't a priority. It's a good indicator that you will get poor training. The PsyD programs that are actually worth attending, both financially and professionally, have pretty much the same amount of research commitment as balanced PhD programs. That's also why those PsyD programs, e.g. Baylor and Rutgers, are of equal difficulty in admissions to the good, fully-funded PhD programs.

    And again, dong research in grad school is as much about making you a good consumer of research as it does as producer of research.
     
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    Those sound like good research experiences to have, but you're going to need more of them and they need to be of higher caliber than grunt work, though it sounds like you're on a good path if you stick with this professor.
     
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    Ah, I understand your point now. So even at schools like Widener University, University of Indianapolis, University of Hartford, etc, where research ins't a priority, the students are likely getting poor training? Why do students attend these programs then?

    I know graduates of some of these schools who seem to be well respected clinicians. Last year my plan was to apply to PhD programs, but I believe they are a reach for me with my statistics, and I lost my enthusiasm for research. I loved doing my own independent research in an independent study, but the grunt work and repetitive tasks in all of my other research jobs drained the enthusiasm out of me. I do not believe I would be happy doing the kind of work that an RA in a professors lab does, for the large amount of hours that Ph.D. students seem to do. So I'm in a bit of a dilemna in program applications, as I do love neuroscience and psychology, and appreciate the research aspect, but don't have the passion for it necessary for a Ph.D. program. That is why I was advised to go the Psy.D. route, and I'm still a little conflicted.
     
  27. moodypsy

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    What are my chances?

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    University of Tennessee Knoxville
    Bachelor of Science in Business Administration
    Major: Psychology
    Minor: Statistics
    Undergraduate psychology GPA - 3.78
    Undergraduate GPA - 3.52

    University of Tennessee Knoxville
    Master of Accountancy
    GPA: 3.5

    GRE:
    155 V/ 164 Q

    No research experience, but 2+ years of experience working as an accountant with my manager writing 1 of my LORs.

    Misc:
    First-Gen College Student
    Interested in Clinical Child Psychology (mood disorders)

    Schools:
    East Tennessee State University
    University of Maryland College Park
    George Mason University
     
  28. psych.meout

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    Nonexistent without research experience.
     
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    Thanks! Working on it now. Start volunteering at GMU tomorrow. Thought I would try to apply this round anyhow. Shooting for entry Fall 2019.
     
  30. psych.meout

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    Honestly, I wouldn't waste my money if I were you. Get some good research experience (read: more than data entry and other grunt work) and apply when you are ready and competitive.
     
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    Because these programs are predatory and rely on students not knowing any better.

    Look, I'm not saying that no great psychologists ever come from any of these programs. My point is that they provide poor training, so the variance in student outcomes is more due to individual characteristics than to the training provided by the programs. I.e. The graduates who are great clinicians are just great in general and would have succeeded anywhere, but the program doesn't get to take credit for their success. The programs are not providing their students with consistently good training, which is why their outcomes are so heterogeneous.
     
  32. psyd12321

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    What would you advise in my case considering I am not passionate enough about research for a phd program?
     
  33. PsychPhDStudent

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    Save your money, wait to apply. You'll want to apply to more than 3 schools anyway. And make sure you actually like the work first.
     
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    If all you want to do is become a clinician, you could just get a master's in mental health counseling or become a clinical social worker. People in these positions are able to take leadership roles, especially in community mental health facilities but also in medical settings. It's fewer years than a PsyD and thus cheaper, unless you are able to attend one of the few funded PsyD programs. Be aware that if you are able to attend one of these programs you will need to write a dissertation. That is a requirement I believe for any APA accredited PsyD program. There are also PhD programs that are more clinically leaning than research leaning (although they may not heavily advertise that). I've heard this about Fordham, St. John's, and Yeshiva.
     
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    Got it, I will consider those options based on my admissions results. I am also aware of the dissertation and factored that into my decision to apply. What are your thoughts on my qualifications for the programs I listed? I know Baylor is a big reach but my hope is that I am competitive for some of the other schools, which have merit and diversity based scholarships and fellowships.
     
  36. WisNeuro

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    You're still not quite getting some of the major points people are trying to make. Places like Rutgers and Baylor Psyd are going to have as much of a research requirement as a balanced PhD. If you don't want to do research period, you shouldn't really be going for a doctoral degree at all. Like Wtfook said, look into masters level counseling or SW degrees.
     
  37. wtfook

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    If all you're interested in is knowing how your qualifications fit, I'd say that your GRE scores are probably strong enough to not get screened out but it doesn't seem like your research experience is rigorous enough to be top of the pile. There are many people who apply who have done conference presentations, poster presentations, or have a publication. They have been part of a lab for more than 4 months and can say they had a hand in the writing of manuscripts. It doesn't mean you can't get into a program without these things but you'll probably run into questions about your research experience, where you see yourself going, your population of interest, etc... Even with PsyD programs, they will likely ask you about what area you're interested in researching and will want to see that you have a clear plan and direction that is in line with their faculty. If what you want to do isn't in line with what they offer or what their faculty are doing, even the best GRE scores and publications wont get you into the school, PsyD or PhD.
     
  38. logicpsych2012

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    Alright guys, I'm working on finishing up my applications and just want some honest feedback. Anything is appreciated!

    GPA: 3.9
    GRE:
    161 V/ 157 Q

    LOR: 2 very strong academic/personal characteristic from Professors, 1 decent from research advisor from respected research facility

    Research Experience:
    Fairly basic, but worked in 3 different labs. Collecting data/analyzing, doing extensive lit reviews, running participant, data management, using different software etc

    2 internships
    1 that wasn't in my field of study (but was very competitive and sounds impressive on the app i think)
    1 that is at a big research facility, scoring neuropsychs/learning how to administer, learning how to use and analyze MRIs & Eye Tracking, lead to a poster and a paper in the works

    Publishing: The only published work I have is an acknowledgement on a paper in my primary area of interest, and I have the poster/paper in the works from my current internship (neuropsych)
    I think this will be my biggest deficit, but I do have a decent amount of research experience, just not compared to a lot of people... I'm hoping that I can show my versatility/ability to adapt to various areas of research and highlight my willingness to take opportunities to learn basics of research regardless if they are in my primary interest or not.

    Schools:
    PsyD: Rutgers, Baylor, IUP, Indiana State, University of Indianapolis, Roosevelt
    PhD: UCONN, University of Utah, DePaul, WVU, UTSW Dallas Medical Center (Top Choice), University of Houston, and Sam Houston State

    I'm hoping to be very competitive at the PsyD programs (maybe minus Baylor).. But do you guys think I have any shot at at least getting an interview at a PhD program?
     
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    Hey guys. I have a bit of a situation that I feel needs a bit of explaining so I apologize that this might be a bit longer than most. When I first started undergrad, I ended switching my majors a bunch of times and the first year of college my GPA was like a 3.1. However, during my sophomore and junior year, my GPA ranged from getting 3.6's to 4.0. My senior year I got very sick and did terribly in both semester and it lowered my overall and major GPA quite a bit because I was in and out of the doctor so much. I ended up even failing a psychology course (Physiological Psychology). I am considering applying to the University of Pittsburgh's Post Bacc program for next fall to help with the lower GPA, but there's not a guarantee I will get in. I am wanting my PhD in Clinical Psychology.

    Overall GPA: 3.25

    Research Experience: During my time in undergrad at WVU, I worked in a clinical psychology lab under a professor for 1.5 years. I did typical undergrad stuff like data entry, running the studies, etc. I was also a Ronald E. McNair Scholar and designed my own independent research project under the same professor with an idea that was unique and had very little prior research on it. I even recruited my own participants and applied for a student grant for funding. After graduating, I got a job working under a Psychiatry professor working as a Research Associate at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center/Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic. I am the primary RA on one of the studies in the lab and I'm responsible for analyzing fMRI data, running the study, and doing the structured clinical interviews for the DSM 5, the eating disorder examination, and a modified version of the WASI-II to screen participants for study eligibility. I also am the main IRB contact for all ongoing studies within the lab and am responsible for doing modifications, renewals, etc. If I do not get into the Post-Bacc program, I will stay in this lab for another year working full-time. If I get into the post-bacc program, I will still try and contribute to the lab as much as I can as a volunteer.

    Poster/Symposia: I have two posters as the first and only author. The research that I did was more archival for the Women's and Gender Studies Department(my minor) and I presented both at the biannual WGST fair at WVU. I also have given two powerpoint presentation talks at symposia for the McNair Scholars Program. One at WVU where I defended my research proposal in front of McNair staff and WVU faculty members. The other at the University of Maryland where I presented the results of my study in front of faculty, McNair staff, and other McNair students. I am hoping to get more posters with the current lab I am in.

    Publications: I do not have any publications yet, but I am hoping to get at least one in the lab I am working currently. I had to write a mock manuscript for my McNair research, but due to being sick, I never attempted to publish it. So that could also be a potential option in the future as well. The study itself did not go as smoothly as hoped because I did not get the funding necessary for the amount of participants I needed. However, I could still call it a pilot study and hope for the best with publishing.

    As of right now, I'm not too certain which schools I am looking at, but I do know my research interests and am currently making a list of schools and professors that I feel would be a good fit. I have also not taken the GRE. With my low GPA, do you think the amount of research experience I have and potentially a good GRE score would help with the low GPA? Thanks!
     
  40. psych.meout

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    Unless you absolutely crush the GRE, you should probably look into a terminal master's program. That would help you get more research experience while demonstrating that you can perform academically at the graduate level.
     
  41. psych.meout

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    Acknowledgements are worthless, because there's no stakes. You're either a co-author or you're not.

    I'd drop the PsyD programs, if only because of the lack of funding. It's easy to convince yourself that not having full funding is fine or that taking on debt is minimally problematic, but that's just self-delusion. You might have a chance at some of those PhD programs, so it may be worth your while to apply anyways. Worst case is that you don't get in and are out some money, but you've gained experience (possibly even from interviews) and can reapply in a year or two after getting some more experience.

    Also, be aware that DePaul's program is heavily community-focused. Even the child track is heavily geared towards a community developmental focus. If that's not to your liking and you can't make a good case for why you and your interests fit in with their orientation, I wouldn't apply.
     
  42. MamaPhD

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    If you can perform very well on the GRE and maybe eke out a poster or something in the near future (and why not go ahead and submit that manuscript for publication??!), I think your chances could be boosted somewhat by fit and how you present yourself. Even doing well in these areas may not be enough to overcome your GPA for every program or faculty member, but I wouldn't say that it's totally futile to apply this cycle. It sounds like you'll be in a stronger position to apply next year after getting more research experience, but you still will have the issue of grades to contend with. If you don't mind spending the time and money on applications, it's worth a shot if you can find programs and mentors that are a clear, solid fit for you.

    A research-oriented master's degree would be a logical Plan B.
     
  43. dynamicdog

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    I am not sure what constitutes priority but having attended a university Psy.D. program (not Rutgers or Baylor) my research experience/training was pretty identical to those in most of the NYC Clinical Ph.D. programs (maybe more but those are the ones I can speak to).
     
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  44. Therapist4Chnge

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    Research is a cornerstone of doctoral training. If you aren’t interested in doing it, then doctoral training will not be a good fit for you.
     
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    All of the PsyD programs I listed have good funding. Most have guaranteed half tuition remission - several offer full tuition remission esp for students from minority backgrounds (which I fit under).
    I wanted to pick both PhD and PsyD because I feel I will be pretty competitive among those PsyD programs and they all have 100% APA match rates and they emphasize research as part of the program, which I think is incredibly important.
    Ultimately, I'm okay with going in ~20k of debt (which would be the max from any of those PsyD programs with the funding) if it means starting my doctorate next year at a program that is a good fit for me.
    If I get into a PhD program - obviously I would accept that offer over a PsyD, but I want to keep my options open.

    And yeah! I love that about DePaul. Thank you
     
  46. MamaPhD

    MamaPhD Psychologist, Academic Medical Center Psychologist 7+ Year Member

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    I think you have a good chance of getting interviews and I would not worry too much about publications. Definitely look for opportunities to present your work at conferences, though. Your GRE could be higher, but if you invest the time into research that you would otherwise spend studying/retaking the GRE, I'd say it's worth focusing on your research.
     
  47. DorianGrunge

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    Hi guys, I am completing my PhD applications and could use the input - mainly to reduce the jitters:

    GPA = 3.68
    PsychGPA = 4.0

    GRE : V = 163 / Q = 159 / A = 3.5
    Psych = 840 (or 99%)

    2 very strong letter (one from main research mentor, one from professor who influenced me to pursue psychology and who I later was a TA for) + 1 strong letter (employer since 3 months)

    Exp:
    3 semester's TA
    1 semester grader
    2 years volunteer in undergrad lab: transcribing, coding, data entry, SPSS
    3 months worked as RA for R01: recruiting, running experiments
    3 months worked as RA for Lab with 2 R01s (current): recruiting, running assessment visit, psychophysiological assessment and scoring, psych battery, delivering computerized CBT

    Research:
    One paid (is pay relevant?) summer project ending in local poster
    One Honors Thesis
    one co-authorship in Psychiatry Research

    PsiChi member
    Won Undergraduate Research Award for 2017

    Schools: UCBerkeley, UMD College Park, UNC-Chapel Hill, SUNY-Binghamton, Northwestern, UIC, UIllinois Urbana-Champaign, Rutgers (PhD),
    UMBC, U of Georgia, U of Toronto, Wisconsin-Madison, Rochester

    Thanks!
     
  48. jojowdflo

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    Hi!
    I'm curious about my chances of getting into a Clinical Psych PhD program. I went to three schools before I finally graduated. I went to a local community college first where I tried to get into Nursing, and my gpa there is a 2.6. I then transferred to Grand Canyon University where I continued to strive for a Nursing degree, but wound up failing all my classes there my first semester, which was also my last semester there. I stayed out of school for a few years before returning to Western New Mexico University, where I majored in Psychology and minored in Criminal Justice. I took 66 credits there and got a 4.0 and graduated. I have very little research experience.

    I know my cGPA (3.17) is awful, when you factor in all the colleges/universities I attended, but does the 4.0 gpa of my last 66 credits at WNMU matter? Would I have a chance of getting into say ASU, UNM, UofA, BYU, or University of Wyoming if I gained some research experience and got stellar scores on my GRE? Or do ya'll think I need to get a Masters in Psychology first? I could easily get research experience without the Masters, but I'm wondering if I still need to get a Masters anyway to balance out my awful cGPA of my undergrad?
     
  49. WisNeuro

    WisNeuro Board Certified Neuropsychologist Psychologist 7+ Year Member

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    The late improvement is promising, but you need more. You'll need >75%ile on the GRE sections and at least a year of research experience. Also, I'd be applying a lot more broadly. As for a masters program, if you are dead set on only those schools, it may be a better way, but you'd still need research experience and to rock the GRE. If you apply more broadly, you might be able to get by with 1-2 years of research experience, and hopefully some kind of product (poster or pub) from it.
     
  50. MamaPhD

    MamaPhD Psychologist, Academic Medical Center Psychologist 7+ Year Member

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    Not necessarily. But everything else in your application would need to be stellar, and you may need more than just one year of research experience depending on the time commitment you can provide, opportunities available for presenting your work, etc.

    I would recommend that you apply more broadly, regardless.
     
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  51. Lillian2014

    Lillian2014 2+ Year Member

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    Hello!

    Submitted applications for Clinical Psychology Ph.D. programs on Dec.1. I'm extremely nervous about the review process. I need opinions from fellow applicants/ graduate students/ anyone who knows what they are doing. Below is a list of my stats and the places I've applied to. Please let me know if I will even be seriously considered by these schools.

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    • International student from India, with a degree from a public university in the US: BS in Neuroscience, Minors in Biology and Psychology
    • Undergraduate GPA: 3.72
    • Have a semester of withdrawal due to health issues (indicated on my personal statement)
    • GPA scores: 165 Verbal, 162 Quantitative
    • Research interests: Etiology and Manifestation of trauma and PTSD. Interdisciplinary understanding of diagnosis and treatment related to PTSD
    • Research experience:
      • 1 year in research lab looking at immigrant children and how they adapt to society in the US
      • Currently working on senior honors thesis - "An Interdisciplinary Analysis of the Subjective Experience of Trauma and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder". Will be presenting this at a conference next semester.
    • Clinical experience:
      • Worked with adults with autism
      • Currently working as an autism therapist for children
      • Worked with people from disadvantaged backgrounds as an intern in India
      • Worked with people with long-term mental issues such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at rehabilitation program in Maryland
    • Research skills: SPSS, Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, other basic computer skills
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    These are the places I'm applying to: (All the POI's are focused on trauma and I got replies from 6/10 people when I emailed them before submitting my applications)

    • UC Berkeley*
    • Eastern Michigan
    • North Texas
    • Binghamton (SUNY)
    • Teacher's College, Columbia University
    • University of Delaware
    • University of Georgia
    • University of Tulsa
    • Northern Illinois University
    • University of Colorado Colorado Springs*
    Starred are my top choices

    Let me know if any of you have any questions!

    <3
     

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