Dismiss Notice
SDN members see fewer ads and full resolution images. Join our non-profit community!

WAMC: What Are My Chances

Discussion in 'Psychology [Psy.D. / Ph.D.]' started by Therapist4Chnge, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Hey! I'd love some honest feedback. I'm 26 and will be graduating with my BS in Psychology and Human Services May 2018. I'm applying to Auburn's Counseling Psychology Ph.D. program (not your typical "specify a prof to work with" program - they also highly value clinical experience) and Georgia Southern's Clinical Psychology Psy.D. program. Both are fully funded. Also applying to multiple master's programs.

    Undergraduate GPA- 3.61
    Psych GPA- 3.7
    Verbal- 154
    Quantitative- 148
    Analytical- 3.5

    Clinical experience- 1.5 years of full-time work with an outpatient addiction treatment center. I work as the admissions/administrative coordinator but also independently run 5 groups/week (Relapse Prevention, Family Orientation, Trauma Recovery, Psychoeducation, Step Group, etc.) Have gotten weekly supervision. Participate in treatment team meetings for case-conceptualization. Utilize crisis intervention skills.

    Research experience- 1 year as a research assistant in a clinical psychology lab within another university. Running participants, using Qualtrics, quantitative coding, etc. No posters or pubs.

    Very strong letters of recommendation. 1 from research supervisor/primary investigator, 1 from a my psych professor, 1 from a supervisor at work. From what I saw, they wrote about my strong interpersonal skills, intellectual curiosity, responsible nature, and willingness to accept feedback. I waived my right to view these letters but a few showed them to me anyway.

    Knocked my SOP out of the park, too.
     
    #4001 studentofthemind, Dec 19, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2017
  2. Thread continues after this sponsor message. SDN Members do not see this ad.

  3. hellohun

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2017
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    /
     
    #4002 hellohun, Dec 21, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2018
  4. artsyann

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    39
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Removed
     
    #4003 artsyann, Dec 21, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
  5. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Standard spiel:
    1. PsyD-clinical practice vs. PhD-research/TT dichotomy is a misconception at best and intentional propaganda at worst.

    2. You're talking about maybe a one-year difference, at most, which can be at the cost of competitiveness for internships, post docs, and jobs.

    3. Consider the debt involved in PsyD programs. GW is a whopping $45,000 per year and Loyola is $31,000 per year, so you're talking about >$100,000 in tuition alone.

    4. Geographic limitations often sink even the most competitive applicants.

    5. Terminal master's programs are different from doctoral programs. Consider the costs of those programs, what you actually want to do with the degree, and if and how those degrees will get you what you want. If you eventually want to go onto a doctoral program, consider the likelihood of these terminal degree programs getting you there.
     
    ellabelle46 likes this.
  6. artsyann

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    39
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Removed
     
    #4005 artsyann, Dec 22, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
  7. Indiana_Jane0411

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    27
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Just curious - have you considered applying to PhD programs? You’ve got some solid research experience and that coupled with a paper pending, (posters? any possible?), solids LORs, solid GRE scores... seems like it might be worth it to explore some POIs located at PhD programs, too!


    Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile
     
    MamaPhD likes this.
  8. wtfook

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    146
    Likes Received:
    95
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    I would look into what the actual difference is between a solid PsyD (like Baylor/Rutgers) and a solid PhD. There are some good PhD Programs that aren't fully funded and some find PsyD programs that are very expensive as well. However, a program that is going to give you solid training will most definitely require a dissertation (APA regulations) and significant research. What you do after is up to you and there are both PhD and PsyD programs who graduate more clinical alum. The idea that PhD's only graduate academics and PsyD's only graduate clinicians is a myth. So why not apply to several PhDs, especially since there are many more of those that are fully funded.
     
    Indiana_Jane0411 likes this.
  9. Lurking Oracle

    Psychologist Faculty

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2014
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    62
    Status:
    Psychologist
    Even if finances are not a concern, it is important to critically and objectively consider a program's EPPP pass rate (2016 data are available for all programs at Psychology Licensing Exam Scores by Doctoral Program - The Association of State and Provincial Psychology Boards). When one starts looking at actual data, it is readily apparent that most university-based PhD programs have higher pass rates on the EPPP; freestanding PsyD (and professional "PhD" programs) are much lower. The quality PsyD programs (e.g., Baylor, Rutgers, IUP, Widener, and a very few others) have pass rates comparable to PhD programs. While it is certainly possible to cherry-pick these data and find exceptions, those are the proverbial exceptions that prove the rule. The EPPP is not perfect (no test ever is), but one absolutely must pass it in order to work as a licensed psychologist. Why would anyone knowingly spend 5+ years (and a couple of hundred thousand bucks, because, let's face it, finances are indeed a concern for the vast majority of students) on a program with a pass rate below 80%?
     
    #4008 Lurking Oracle, Dec 27, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2017
    Meteora and scapply like this.
  10. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    If you don't have an interest in research, you may not fit well in clinical science programs. You should look more into the different clinical program training models.
     
    Therapist4Chnge and scapply like this.
  11. grad18

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Another friendly WAMC poster here seeking guidance. :) I applied for fall 18 and have been so anxious.

    uGPA:3.53 after this term, had a 3.48 when I applied
    major GPA: 3.56
    Junior/senior GPA: probably around a 3.8
    qGRE: 154 (55%ile)
    vGRE: 158 (80%ile)
    aGRE: 4.5 (82%ile)

    Research experience: Two semesters running participants/data collection, will have three full semesters upon graduation. I am currently a project leader for a new project we started this past semester, and so this past semester was a lot of working out kinks in the protocol; will begin fully running participants this upcoming semester. No pubs or presentations, unfortunately.

    Clinical experience: Pretty much any time I had was spent gaining experience, sans a summer of marching drum corps between my freshman and sophomore year. Spent a semester shadowing an ABA therapist with a child client, a summer working in an oncology unit at a children's hospital, a semester serving as a play buddy at a Head Start program/doing play therapy with a client, semester volunteering at a hospital assisting nurses, and a summer working in direct care at an RTC for children.

    LORs: Strong, one from my research mentor, another from a professor I have built a solid relationship with who now also assists in our lab, and another from my supervisor from the RTC.

    SOP: Heavily revised multiple times by one of my psych professors and one of my english professors who loves editing personal statements, so I hope/believe it is strong. :) I hear so many different takes and opinions on SOPs

    I had a really rough first semester with a GPA *well* below 3.0, but have since made above a 3.7 for four of my seven completed semesters. I hold a leadership position in Psi Chi and am president of our psychology club, as well as being in another honor society and was awarded a merit- and service-based scholarship for this year from my university's student foundation. Small, but I'm also a student member for APA. My GREs were not as strong as I had hoped for them to be to buffer my average GPA. All that being said, a dramatic improvement from my freshman year to now is clear as well as my effort to gain experience! I just hope it's enough! Graduating from a solid well-known and reputable university.

    Applied to the following, all clinical Ph.D. unless otherwise stated:
    Boston U., University of Houston, Southern Methodist University, UT Austin (school psych Ph.D.), University of Arizona, University of Memphis, Baylor (Psy.D.), Virginia Commonwealth University, UT Southwestern Medical Center

    Applied to these programs based on fit with at least one professor in the program + geographic proximity to a hospital that serves children; I have a child clinical focus and I am hoping to study psychopathology in pediatric oncology patients, risk factors for pediatric oncology patients, effects of childhood trauma on health, how improving QOL and reducing stress in pediatric oncology patients could impact patient outcomes...

    I will likely be applying to some MSW programs as well.
     
    #4010 grad18, Dec 28, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2017
  12. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    You probably came here just for reassurance that your chances are good, but, honestly, you should continue doing research and be looking for an RA job before you graduate. While your cumulative GPA does have an upward trajectory, it's still not great and your psych GPA isn't fantastic either. As you note, your GRE scores didn't really make up for them either.

    The real issue, though, is your lack of research experience. From what you have written, it sounds like you just have two semesters of grunt work. That's really not enough to make you competitive for most programs. It would have been better for you to get more research experience instead of the "clinical" experience.
     
  13. grad18

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Actually I just wanted genuine feedback just as most on here, not fishing. ;) I have started looking in to some jobs as well as MSW programs. Thanks for the feedback!
     
  14. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    I wasn't saying that in a derogatory manner at all. Application season is an anxious time and it's understandable to sell some kind of reassurance. I just phrased it the way I did because you posted it after applications have been submitted and therefore there's nothing left to be done or changed for this chuckles.

    As for the MSW stuff, you mentioned that earlier and it makes me question what your goals are. MSW is a very different career path from a doctorate in clinical psychology and the former doesn't necessarily lend itself to improving your competitiveness for the latter.

    A terminal masters in experimental or clinical psychology would be more helpful to you getting into a doctoral program later on. Your stats are not bad by any means, so a terminal master's degree isn't essential. Getting some good research experience, especially with pubs or posters is what will help you the most.
     
    grad18 likes this.
  15. PsychPhDStudent

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    221
    Status:
    Post Doc
    What are your career goals?
    I can't speak to the PsyD and school psych program, but for the others, the main two problems I see are lack of advanced research experience and low quant GRE. I agree with @psych.meout - keep your eyes peeled for post-bacc RA jobs in case this doesn't work out this round.
     
    grad18 likes this.
  16. Thread continues after this sponsor message. SDN Members do not see this ad.

  17. JBenn

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Other Health Professions Student
    First time poster, I have submitted applications to clinical psychology PhD programs but am not hopeful. Looking what to do to improve my chances next year.
    My undergrad degree is in biology and my master's in biomolecules science (neuroscience based thesis). In the last year I've decided to switch to clinical neuropsychology.
    Undergrad GPA: 3.03 (I was very unmotivated at the time)
    Grad GPA: 3.8
    GREs: V 164 Q157
    Psych GRE: 690
    I have 3 years neuroscience research experience (master's thesis) and 1 year pharmacology internship at an ivy league school. What should I do to be more competitive next year?
     
  18. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Do you have any products, e.g., pubs and posters, from your research?

    Have you taken any psychology courses, as your undergrad and grad degrees aren't in psychology?
     
  19. JBenn

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Other Health Professions Student
    I have taken about 12 or 15 psych credit 3 are grad school level. I have 3 or 4 poster presentations and will have my name on a paper in the next few months (my master's program wasn't very research oriented but it was completely free since a relative worked at the school).
     
  20. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    That all sounds quite good and you've definitely done a lot of things right, especially to overcome your undergrad GPA. It may not be sufficient for certain doctoral programs that have hard cutoffs for undergrad GPAs, but if you apply broadly, get stellar recommendation letters, write fantastic personal statements, match well with programs and POIs, and interview well, you probably have a good shot.
     
  21. JBenn

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Other Health Professions Student
    Thanks, it's good to know that I'm not completely out of touch with reality.
     
  22. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Hey! I'd love some honest feedback. I'm 26 and will be graduating with my BS in Psychology and Human Services May 2018. I'm applying to Auburn's Counseling Psychology Ph.D. program (not your typical "specify a prof to work with" program - they also highly value clinical experience) and Georgia Southern's Clinical Psychology Psy.D. program. Both are fully funded. Also applying to multiple master's programs.

    Undergraduate GPA- 3.61
    Psych GPA- 3.7
    Verbal- 154
    Quantitative- 148
    Analytical- 3.5

    Clinical experience- 1.5 years of full-time work with an outpatient addiction treatment center. I work as the admissions/administrative coordinator but also independently run 5 groups/week (Relapse Prevention, Family Orientation, Trauma Recovery, Psychoeducation, Step Group, etc.) Have gotten weekly supervision. Participate in treatment team meetings for case-conceptualization. Utilize crisis intervention skills.

    Research experience- 1 year as a research assistant in a clinical psychology lab within another university. Running participants, using Qualtrics, quantitative coding, etc. No posters or pubs.

    Very strong letters of recommendation. 1 from research supervisor/primary investigator, 1 from a my psych professor, 1 from a supervisor at work. From what I saw, they wrote about my strong interpersonal skills, intellectual curiosity, responsible nature, and willingness to accept feedback. I waived my right to view these letters but a few showed them to me anyway.

    Knocked my SOP out of the park, too.
     
  23. MamaPhD

    MamaPhD Psychologist, Academic Medical Center
    Psychologist

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    1,728
    Likes Received:
    1,554
    Status:
    Psychologist
    I also think your research experience is on the low end to be competitive for clinical psych programs. A key question is to what extent you want your future career to include research and scholarship on these topics (from what it sounds like this is the case) versus providing clinical care alone. If the former, then it would definitely be worthwhile to stick it out longer and get additional research experience and then apply to clinical programs that include child clinical psych training. You don't need any more clinical or volunteer experience. What you need at this point is to become a valuable member of someone's lab or research team and attain authorships on presentations and/or publications.

    Social work has a strong foothold in the oncology world, but the day-to-day work of an oncology social worker and a psychologist don't overlap as much as you might think. Multiple MSW colleagues in medical settings have expressed to me their desire to have had more training in psychotherapy going into their first jobs. The typical job for a social worker in a cancer center includes a lot of medical social work, even if there is an expectation to provide counseling/clinical intervention.
     
    grad18 likes this.
  24. TheStruggleIsReal77

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    This is my first post on the forum (though I have been reading as a non-member for awhile). I'd like some guidance on my chances and I have a few questions. I'm a psych major / sociology minor undergrad at University of Nebraska Kearney.

    Interested in applying to Clinical Psych programs with interest in Neuropsychology.
    Undergrad GPA: Currently 3.91 , expect it to be higher upon graduation.
    GRE: I have not taken the GRE. I plan to take it in the summer, and again in the fall before graduate applications if I need to try for a better score.

    Research Experience: One joint research project in social psychology last semester. I'm conducting an independent research project with my social psychology professor this semester and plan to present it at a conference. I also presented a sociology literature review paper at a conference last semester and won first place in the paper competition. And I should have time to fit in more psychology research experience during the fall 2018 semester.

    Recommendations: I know that I have at least 2 options for good letters of recommendation from Psychology professors and 2 options for good letters of recommendation from Sociology professors, all based on research skills.

    Internships/Experience: I don't have much "clinical experience". I was told by my advisors that it's fairly moot as an undergrad. I did volunteer at a homeless shelter for one semester. I do plan to look for an internship over the summer.

    Research internships seem hard to find in my area. Any ideas on how I can get more research experience than I will already have in this situation? Also, since I am a psychology major, should I take the Psychology Subject portion of the GRE? I was told that it's unnecessary. Any other advice is greatly appreciated.
     
  25. tiy123

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    28
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    I would focus on research for the summer, as opposed to clinical, if you are looking to apply to phd programs. I'll let more senior people reply as to your chances.

    As for the psych gre, you should start (now) looking at professors/schools studying topics that match your research interests. As you start to narrow your list, look that the admission requirements for each school. Depending on how long your list is, I'd say there's a 50/50 chance of needing to take it. It doesn't hurt to take it though--I know of someone who had a professor they loved but thought wasn't taking students actually be able to take a student last minute, but the student couldn't apply because they hadn't taken the psych gre.
     
    TheStruggleIsReal77 likes this.
  26. N_Els_2017

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Hey all!

    This is my first post.

    I applied this cycle to 12 programs.

    Stats:
    UGrad GPA : 3.80 Psych GPA: 3.98
    GRE: 161 (Q), 157 (V), 6.0 (AWA)
    Research: 6 years, 2 years full time, 2 publications as first author under review, 2 as a contributing author, a senior thesis that was entirely designed by me, 13 Posters
    Teaching: Teacher's assistant for a year as an undergraduate
    4 strong letters of rec.

    Will my GRE scores kick me in the butt?
     
  27. WisNeuro

    WisNeuro Board Certified Neuropsychologist
    Psychologist

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    5,682
    Status:
    Psychologist
    It shouldn't, unless you only applied to the most extremely competitive programs. they could be a touch higher, but they look to be above most cutoffs. In general the GPA looks good and you look to have good research experience/production. I'd say the numbers of the app look pretty good. It'll all come down to where you applied, the fit at those places, and the interviews at this point
     
    N_Els_2017 likes this.
  28. N_Els_2017

    Joined:
    May 19, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Thank you for your feedback :)
     
  29. TheStruggleIsReal77

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Thanks for your feedback. I will definitely talk to my professor about getting research experience over the summer, especially if I can get any kind of clinical research experience, as that's something I haven't done anything with. I previously thought I wanted to go into social psychology. Will it look strange if my research focus as an undergrad doesn't necessarily align with what I'm interested in for grad school?
     
  30. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    It's more about how you sell yourself in your personal statements and interviews. Even if you haven't done much clinical research, you could still discuss how what you have actually done relates to what you want to do in grad school. E.g., if you worked in a cognitive psychology lab, you could mention that it shifted your clinical interests towards cognitive dysfunction in various forms of psychopathology.
     
    TheStruggleIsReal77 likes this.
  31. gg3636

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2018
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Hi everyone! This is my first ever time posting on here, after painstakingly reviewing just about everything on this website :)

    I'm a current undergrad senior who just applied to 8 PsyD programs (Loyola, UIndy, IUP, University of Denver, LaSalle, Widener, Wright State, Xavier). My advisor seemed pretty confident in my ability to get into a program if I applied now, but after not yet hearing back from any programs (aside from UIndy, who informed that while they were impressed with my application, there were no spots for their January interview date, and they would let me know if they had a spot for me for their Feb interview date) I'm beginning to get very nervous. Would love reassurance if possible, but also advice for how to improve my application for next cycle if that is what this comes to. Also, I know my decision to apply solely to PsyDs was an expensive decision, but I am fortunate enough to have my grad school paid for, so possible debt accruement is not a concern at this moment.

    Academics:
    General GPA: 3.77 (3.79 now)
    Psychology GPA: 3.77
    GRE (blah- I know these are bad): V:157(76th percentile) Q:147(27th percentile) AW:4.0(60th percentile)
    In an academic honors society as well as Psi Chi, work at my school's writing center, top 12% of my class, and have been on Dean's List every semester except for 1.

    Clinical experience
    :
    • Shadowed at an acute adult intake floor for a few weeks. Observed group therapy, observed case hearings, and assisted in writing case notes.
    • Interned at a residential treatment facility where I observed group therapy again, attended treatment team meetings, helped with case notes, and sometimes aided in facilitating the group therapy (helped the patients 1:1, was sometimes able to ask questions etc.).
    • Direct care aide for children with autism (honestly basically glorified babysitting but still some experience).

    Research experience:
    • Completed an independent study this semester writing a literature review about the efficacy of Early Intensive Behavioral Interventions for children with Autism.
    • Worked as a research assistant for a professor one semester where I scheduled participants, ran the lab, collected all of the data, and matched data to corresponding participant (but no real hands on SPSS work).
    • I go to a small college, so there isn't much opportunity for research. However, the classes are extremely research focused, and I do have knowledge of designing my own scale, running SPSS etc and could talk at length about two research studies I completed for class (even though I know this doesn't count for much).

    LOR: Extremely strong. 2 from professors who know me extremely well and who I have done well in their classes, and one from my RTF supervisor.

    SOP: Feel very confident, and mentioned a specific professor I would be interesting in working with at each school due to my clinical and research interests.

    I know my GRE scores are mediocre at best, and terrible at worst (That Q... ugh). I studied sooo hard for the GRE and still managed to do poorly. I am not a good standardized test taker, never have been. For instance, my AW is only 60th percentile, but I was selected to work at my school's writing center and one of my LOR professors asked to use one of my papers as an example of scientific writing for her classes. I really hope schools take a look at my whole application and realize these scores don't match up, but I would not be surprised if they're the nail in my coffin.

    I am confident in my interview abilities, but am nervous that I won't even get the chance to interview. If I don't get in this round, other than studying my butt off to raise my GRE scores, would you recommend more clinical or research experience for a PsyD? I was offered a full-time position at my RTF as a psychiatric aide, but wasn't sure if I should take that or focus on some research.

    Thank you so much if you took the time to read this! Really means a lot to me.
     
  32. artsyann

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    39
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    If it makes you feel better, I know Loyola hasn’t extended invites yet. I applied there as well. They told me they plan to do invites in about 2 weeks. I didn’t apply to any of the other programs you mentioned, but all of the other ones I applied to have later interviews than a lot of programs. I know a few have told me they are notifying at the end of this month. Hope that helps a bit!
     
  33. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Anyone applying to Auburn's Counseling Psychology, or GA Southern's PsyD program?

    I posted above, would really appreciate if someone could take a look!
     
  34. TheStruggleIsReal77

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    That makes sense. I had one more question come to mind as I was looking through PhD programs and professor's research interests. When applying to clinical psychology programs, is it pretty much a given that you will do your research within clinical/applied psychology? Or is there some leeway in a lot of programs? For instance, doing developmental research with a developmental psychologist while studying clinical psychology, if that makes sense. I did find a couple of programs with overlap (e.g. cognitive developmental psychopathology labs), but not a lot so far.
     
  35. gg3636

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2018
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    That does make me feel a little bit better! Thanks for letting me know. Good luck to you with your applications!
     
  36. logicpsych2012

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    28
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Just so you know - I know other people have posted interview invites from some of those schools (Widener) and I received my interview offers from UIndy and IUP and I think all of them already went out for IUP.
    You applied to some of the better PsyD programs... Your GPA is good, but i think your lack of research experience coupled with your GRE scores MIGHT cripple your chances.
    For reference my GPA is a 3.9; GREs V-161, Q-157, AW-4.5; and then lots of research experience, solid recommendations, and SOP.
    I would definitely encourage you to improve your GRE scores like you mentioned, but I would focus on more research. IUP and UIndy are some of the more research focused PsyDs - you could also look into other PsyD programs like Rutgers, Indiana State, and Roosevelt to expand your chances next cycle.
    I wish you the best of luck !
     
  37. FuturePsyD_

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    18
    I'm applying to Georgia Southern's PsyD Program! Haven't heard anything from them yet.
     
  38. MamaPhD

    MamaPhD Psychologist, Academic Medical Center
    Psychologist

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    1,728
    Likes Received:
    1,554
    Status:
    Psychologist
    Most programs match a student to a specific faculty member (or, less commonly, to two faculty members), and yes, it is expected that you would work primarily in their lab/research program. It's common for research interests to span across different areas, so one way of bridging the gap could be to work in your PI's broad area of interest (say, for instance, anxiety disorders) but bring a developmental perspective to your original research. It's very common for clinical research interests to overlap with developmental, social, or another area. Typically students in this situation would get some secondary mentoring from one or more faculty from the relevant other area, and those faculty would be on their thesis or dissertation committees. But your "primary" PI would be from your own area (i.e., clinical). Think of it from the faculty member's point of view. What would be the point of taking you on as a trainee if your intent was to do most of your research with another faculty member in a different area?
     
    TheStruggleIsReal77 likes this.
  39. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Good luck! I'm so excited about this program!

    Also a bit worried because my application still says my GRE scores haven't been received- I sent them months ago!
     
  40. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Hey! I'd love some honest feedback. I'm 26 and will be graduating with my BS in Psychology and Human Services May 2018. I'm applying to Auburn's Counseling Psychology Ph.D. program (not your typical "specify a prof to work with" program - they also highly value clinical experience) and Georgia Southern's Clinical Psychology Psy.D. program. Both are fully funded. Also applying to multiple master's programs.

    Undergraduate GPA- 3.61
    Psych GPA- 3.7
    Verbal- 154
    Quantitative- 148
    Analytical- 3.5

    Clinical experience- 1.5 years of full-time work with an outpatient addiction treatment center. I work as the admissions/administrative coordinator but also independently run 5 groups/week (Relapse Prevention, Family Orientation, Trauma Recovery, Psychoeducation, Step Group, etc.) Have gotten weekly supervision. Participate in treatment team meetings for case-conceptualization. Utilize crisis intervention skills.

    Research experience- 1 year as a research assistant in a clinical psychology lab within another university. Running participants, using Qualtrics, quantitative coding, etc. No posters or pubs.

    Very strong letters of recommendation. 1 from research supervisor/primary investigator, 1 from a my psych professor, 1 from a supervisor at work. From what I saw, they wrote about my strong interpersonal skills, intellectual curiosity, responsible nature, and willingness to accept feedback. I waived my right to view these letters but a few showed them to me anyway.

    Knocked my SOP out of the park, too.
     
  41. psych.meout

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    601
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Didn't you already post this here?
     
  42. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Yes. I did not receive any feedback, and people who posted after me did. I tried months ago as well, and did not receive any replies. My apologies if this is against the rules. Soooo very anxious about the application process - I've worked so hard for this but fell into some financial issues, and was only able to apply to a few doctoral programs. Perhaps my reassurance efforts have come across as pushy. I won't post again. :)
     
    #4040 studentofthemind, Jan 10, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2018
  43. FuturePsyD_

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    18
    Not sure that this will be helpful feedback as I am applying myself, but a comparison is better than nothing right?

    I'm applying to Georgia Southern with similar stats. 3.7 Undergrad and Psych GPA, 155V 156Q 4.0A, and over a year and half of experience administering neuropsych assessments full time. I still haven't heard from Georgia Southern, but I have an interview for another PsyD program with similar admissions stats so I am hopeful about Georgia Southern! Completely understand your anxiety about the process! I feel the same way. It seemed like a big factor for Georgia Southern's program was a willingness and desire to work with rural populations so I'm sure that will play into their decision. Best of luck!!
     
  44. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    Thank you so much for your reply! And congrats on getting one interview so far. You'll do great! I've been accepted into 1 master's program so far, and have an interview with another one (GA State) at the end of this month. That being said, a master's is my backup.

    I definitely made my willingness and desire to work with rural and underserved populations clear in my SOP. I didn't dedicate paragraphs or anything to it, though- I hope that will be okay!

    Good luck to you!
     
    FuturePsyD_ likes this.
  45. studentofthemind

    Joined:
    May 31, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    16
    Status:
    Pre-Psychology
    P.S. Someone told me that they'd be sending out invites next week!!! Thought you'd like to know.
     
    FuturePsyD_ likes this.
  46. psyguy83

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2015
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    20
    Status:
    MD/PhD Student
    If I were you....I would retake the GRE it if you don't get in because your quant score is low. I would also volunteer at a lab/produce a 1st-author poster before the next cycle. Last but not least, I would be applying to at least 10 schools per application round because the competition is fierce.

    If you do not have it already, I recommend buying "Insider's Guide to Graduate Programs in Clinical and Counseling Psychology" which outlines a great overall strategy for applying, in addition to providing useful statistics of all of the schools. Good luck
     
  47. PsyD2019

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2018
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Hi Everyone,

    New to this forum and was hoping someone can chime in on this. I am currently studying Counseling for Mental Health and Wellness (MA) at NYU. I am working at a substance abuse outpatient clinic as an Intern and will be done in May this year. If all goes well I will be graduating with a 4.0GPA. I am then planning on working at a child welfare agency while getting ready to apply to PsyD programs in New York, Rutgers being my top choice. I am slightly older and my undergraduate degree is in political science, so I have had no experience in the field before starting my Master's Degree. I decided not to apply Dec 2017 and work for a year after graduating. I have no research experience, which I hear is not a must for PsyD's but was wondering if that is truly the case? Many of my classmates have said that it is almost impossible to get into Rutgers so I am starting to panic esp since English is not my first language and I am worried about my essay's, GRE etc. I know I have a lot of time but I am also a mom, so I am trying to plan accordingly and not get overwhelmed by the time applications are due in December.

    Anyone here currently attending Rutgers or know anyone who applied to the clinical psych PsyD program and can give some feedback?

    Many Thanks!
     
  48. biscuitsbiscuits

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    Messages:
    146
    Likes Received:
    100
    Rutgers clinical PsyD is a very competitive program (admissions data: https://gsapp.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/doc/admissions_data_2015.pdf ) and they're going to want to see research experience. Is there any way you can connect with some of the NYU faculty while you're still there and volunteer as a research assistant?

    It might be a good idea to take two years (or more) instead of one, add as much research experience to your CV as possible, earn outstanding letters of rec, study hard for the GRE, and apply when you have a really strong application package.

    I'm also a mom and in my second semester of a doctoral program. You are smart to look ahead and plan out the application process for yourself. I spread the application process out over about two years (I already had research experience at the time I started), just because I knew I couldn't count on having the time and I didn't want to rush it or cut corners. I was very careful about the process because, as you know, life with kids is unpredictable. They get sick, there's a snow day, and suddenly a work day is lost. So you have to be very organized, start early, and leave yourself time for the unexpected. Good luck!
     
  49. logicpsych2012

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    28
    Status:
    Psychology Student
    Yeah definitely would echo what the previous poster said.
    Rutgers is a PsyD, but they are a heavily research focused PsyD - so I don't think it's likely to get in without research experience.

    I applied for this upcoming cycle. Interviews usually go out in the next two weeks. I can let you know if I am offered an interview or not and give you my gpa/gre/resume so that you can judge..
    But other than Baylor, Rutgers is the most competitive PsyD so it's hard for anyone to get into. I would suggest applying to at least a handful of programs to have a better shot!
     
  50. AcronymAllergy

    AcronymAllergy Neuropsychologist
    Moderator Psychologist Gold Donor Classifieds Approved

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    6,966
    Likes Received:
    1,256
    Status:
    Psychologist
    Mod Note: Merged into the WAMC thread.
     
  51. fluidityt

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Messages:
    115
    Likes Received:
    4
    Status:
    Pre-Medical
    Hey everyone, I hope this is the right thread..

    Some background, I've graduated from community college, and am planning to start university this fall. It's taken me about 5 years to get my degree due to various life events, but I'm 100% back in the game now and plan to move forward at a regular pace.

    Credits completed: 90

    GPA: 3.93
    sGPA: 4.0 (including psych classes)

    GRE (expected to do well, or at least somewhat competitive)

    Research (at community college):
    - first semester designed my own survey related to poverty awareness, with help of my psych 101 professor. Presented on campus
    - one year of microbiology research in lab, collecting live samples and performing PCR and DNA extractio. 2 posters off campus

    Volunteering:
    - 100 hours at food bank
    - 4 years of tutoring, mentoring, and assisting students with mental disorders (autism, brain surgery patients, etc) ((done through the school and local churches / libraries)) (((does this count as a clinical as well?)))

    Work:
    - Military (1 year -- medical discharge)
    - 3 food service jobs (1 year each)
    - Private tutor (2 years)

    LOR:
    1 very strong from a social science professor / mentory who's known me 5 years
    1 good / strong from science professor

    EC:
    - Amateur motorcycle racer
    - Powerlifting
    - Computer programming / app developer
    - Creative writing (fiction)

    Career interests:
    - Clinician but still involved actively in research, if available.

    Schools interested in:
    - I really could use some direction here, as I have many research interests. I honestly don't think it will be difficult for me to find many programs I would love. My heart ultimately lies with underserved population, though suicide prevention is also very relevant, as well as anything related to perception, personality, beliefs, or disorders like major depressive and ASD....


    Goals by summer '19:
    - Work / volunteer at suicide hotline (something I've wanted to do for years, and is very meaningful to me)
    - Find a professor to do research with at university, hopefully something related to clinical psychology.
    - Build good relationship with someone at university who wants me to be a doctor, so they will want to write me a strong letter

    - Lay the smackdown on the GRE
    - Find out what I'm most interested in research-wise
    - maintain GPA

    How am I doing, and (roughly) what are my chances if I apply next year ?
     
    #4049 fluidityt, Jan 20, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2018
  52. FuturePsyD_

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    18
    I highly recommend purchasing the Insiders Guide to Graduate Programs in Clinical and Counseling Psychology to help you choose programs! It lists every school, their research and clinical interests, and admissions stats. They also rank how heavily research or clinically focused the programs are. It answered a lot of my questions as I was applying this year. Best of luck!
     
    artsyann and fluidityt like this.

Share This Page